A man is comforted by his relative after he arrived at the local hospital in Quetta to find a family member shot dead, September 20, 2011. — Photo by Reuters/File

PESHAWAR: Gunmen dragged 20 Shia Muslim travelers off a bus and killed them at point blank range in northern Pakistan on Thursday, the third such incident in six months, officials said.

The attack happened in the northwestern district of Mansehra as the bus was travelling between Rawalpindi and the mainly Shia northern city of Gilgit.

Officials said it was ambushed in the hills of Babusar Top, around 100 miles north of the capital Islamabad, although they differed over details of the incident.

“Ten to 12 people wearing army uniform stopped the bus and forced some people off the bus,” said Khalid Omarzai, administration chief in Mansehra.

“After checking their papers, they opened fire and at least 20 people are reported to have been killed. This is initial information and the final toll may go up. They are all Shias,” he said.

Local police official Shafiq Gul told AFP that the gunmen were masked, but said the victims were pulled from three separate vehicles in the district, which neighbours the Swat valley, a former Taliban stronghold.

“They stopped three vehicles, searched them and picked up people in three batches of five, six and nine and shot them dead. They were all Shias,” he said.

Mansehra police chief Sher Akbar Khan put the toll at 19, saying the attackers had worn military commando uniforms when they opened fire at around 6.00 am.

“They intercepted three buses, took people out and checked their ID cards and later sprayed bullets at them,” Khan said.

Sectarian violence linked to Gilgit, a popular tourist destination for wealthy Pakistanis and expatriates who live in the country, has increased in recent months.

It is the capital of Pakistan’s far northern Gilgit-Baltistan region and is popular with mountaineers as a gateway to the Karakoram and Himalayan mountain ranges.

Angry mobs burnt tyres and blocked roads in some parts of the city to protest against the killings as extra police patrolled deserted streets and markets closed, said an AFP reporter in Gilgit.

The chief minister of Gilgit-Baltistan, Syed Mehdi Shah, called an emergency meeting of top officials and ordered them to step up security and demanded the immediate arrest of the killers, a spokesman said.

The road from Babusar to Gilgit has been closed indefinitely, the local government added.

On February 28, gunmen hauled 18 Shia Muslim men off buses travelling from Rawalpindi to Gilgit in the northern district of Kohistan, shooting them dead.

On April 3, a mob dragged nine Shia Muslims from buses and also shot them dead in the town of Chilas, about 60 miles south of Gilgit.

Human rights groups have heavily criticised Pakistan for failing to crack down on sectarian violence.

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Usman Khan
August 16, 2012 3:58 pm
Sometimes a picture says a thousand words. The pain on that young man's face brought tears to my eyes. I cry for him, I cry for my country as it bleeds. What will it take for Pakistanis to rise up and take back Pakistan?
muhammad ali
August 16, 2012 3:55 pm
sham to govt
Concerned Netizen
August 16, 2012 1:34 pm
Pakistan is one of the reasons why there is so much hatred against Islam. The hypocrisy in the society is saddening. Oh GOD is it a sin to be non-sunni in Pakistan?? :(
Ajay Paul
August 16, 2012 4:26 pm
And of course, an unstable Pakistan is a headache for India.
Gaizoo Khan Chandio
August 16, 2012 4:34 pm
People are critizing sunny,who is right in my opinion. We must not have used religion as a tool to gain political aims.We have totally been failed in protecting the minorities.The ouster of Hindus in recent days is a solid example.We must tolerate every one,be it hindu,Muslim,sikh,parsi etc.This is what Islam teaches us. Had it not been the purpose of Islam,God would have imposed this religion on everyone.but God has freed all in the world to practice their belief..
August 16, 2012 4:12 pm
oh my god...this is not really good..whereve it happens but not good...plz stop this bloody war...
August 16, 2012 4:00 pm
Really Asif! Is this your real name or you are disguised behind this name. If this cowardly act makes you think of changing your religion then please do so by all means. Islam be better-off without you!
August 16, 2012 4:01 pm
Not sure if you understand the situation or the history....
August 16, 2012 4:25 pm
That's a load of crap! InshAllah /MashAllah are it going to work anymore....because Allah is usually not willing unless humans re. So get your ass out there and do something.
Rajendra M. Parikh
August 16, 2012 3:42 pm
Dear Readers, I agree with Mr. Khalid, the name of Pakistan should be Republic of Pakistan and NOT the Islamic republic of Pakistan, Thanks, Rajendra M. Parikh Arlington, Texas USA
August 16, 2012 3:41 pm
Killers knew they were shias through the ID cards and other documentation they were carrying. Why is it necessary to declare religion, sect or race on ID cards. We are all Pakistanis and that is the only identity we needs to carry. State has created these tools of discrimination and state is to be partly blamed for widespread discrimination.
August 16, 2012 4:11 pm
Man born as a Muslim > believe in Islam. Man born as HIndu> believe in Hinduism . Man born in christian family > believe in Christianity. After all we live in one planet as men and Women. Killing other human in name of religion is utter foolishness..religion do not have anything do with State activities. Religion should be inside the house
August 16, 2012 4:26 pm
Yet better throw the A-Bomb on the fanatics in Riyadh.
August 16, 2012 1:32 pm
It makes you wonder who are these "animals" who call themselves "Real Muslims". They are not only a curse on Islam, but humanity itself. I expect to hear strongest possible condemnation, followed by real action, by all Sunni leaders and hope that they stop propagating such messages of hate in Mosques and Madasahs. This is the real cancer that has destroyed, Pakistan, Islam and now, humanity itself.
August 16, 2012 4:28 pm
You are an idiot...spies spies everywhere. I bet you wake up on a fine morning, feel constipated and blame it on CIA.
August 16, 2012 4:30 pm
how painful it is,,its EID holidays time...and they were going to celebrate that with their families... no doubts those who have done this massacre are not muslims... whom we should point out..there are many who we can blame..but main culprit is government...what else they can do except corruption... shame on them..
August 16, 2012 4:13 pm
Faisal, Totally agree with your point. Fault lies with Zadari and his puppet government. Get rid of him and bring in Martial law and you will see the country go from strength to strength.
Salman Tariq
August 16, 2012 4:12 pm
How insensitive have we become to allow such atrocities to go unpunished in our society? It pains me as a Pakistani to see this mindless slaughter. May someone grow the guts to punish the perpetrators of this monstrosity.
August 16, 2012 3:33 pm
this is genocide.
Irfan Haqqee
August 16, 2012 3:15 pm
Once- that's the word we have been hearing since "Independence"
August 16, 2012 3:15 pm
He is never explicit in condemning them, if at all you can you can sense that he has soft corner for them. He never came out to condemn countless incidents like this and demand capital punishment with same enthusiasm like he show for his dharnas, CJ etc. I count myself among those who thinks that he be given a chance, but this is a clear and a very serious gap in his thinking and strategy which will seriously undermine chances for his success if he ever gets power. Supporters like you should be objective in your support. You only talk from position of strength, you only talk to humans.
August 16, 2012 3:10 pm
Wow, how crule and in humance comment. Innocent which means non combatant civilian men lost their lives and your comment is we are losing tourism GB? May God bless all the innocent human beings who are the victims of these barbaraians. Indeed our Nabi (PBUT@HF) was correct when he predicted, in the last day murder would be all over, a man would be killed and he would not know why is he being killed while the killer would not know what he killed the man.
Ibadat Khan
August 16, 2012 3:00 pm
There is a dire need to create harmony and remove misunderstandings among the religious sects in Pakistan so that they should endure one another and leave with peace and harmony. We should learn from other countries who got liberty after creation of Pakistan and have made tremendous progress but due to sectarian violence and corruption Pakistan could not achieve stability. Rather it seems we are heading towards stone-age if the situation remains unchanged. All sensible people condemn the killings of innocent people just for nothing in the month of holy Ramadan!
August 16, 2012 2:54 pm
I have not other words so simply SHAME and only SHAME on all who support these killers both directly or indirectly.;
August 16, 2012 2:47 pm
These are not REAL muslims. The Quran clearly sys not to kill innocent people. These are savages with their own agenda and the government should send military escorts with busses along this route and shoot dead anyone that tries to stop a bus!
August 16, 2012 2:46 pm
i agree with Raza
August 16, 2012 2:40 pm
It is rather amusing to read how Pakistanis are calling this a massacre, violence, brutal etc. When such massacres happened in other neighboring nations, carried out by the same groups of people, these Pakistanis hailed the killers as mujahideens and freedom fighters.
August 16, 2012 2:40 pm
There was one safe place in Pakistan north where one could visit and enjoy the nature, and now its being made inaccessible. When will the state security apparatus wake up, please let us have some peaceful areas, if you cannot protect the whole country.
August 16, 2012 2:37 pm
I hate to say this but we need to arm the police in that region to the teeth. They should go on a manhunt and find these people and prosecute them to the highest degree of the law. The army cannot be everywhere. We need to improve ale and order and empower our police and paramilitary
August 16, 2012 2:29 pm
Its all part of much bigger conspiracy than you all think, it has a footprints of what happening in Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan. Aamir
A Pakistani
August 16, 2012 2:23 pm
There is no rule of law, all the law maker and govt is sleeping as ever. They are not realizing the situation which require an immediate action again these unlawful and cruel activities which you even do on animals. These people are paid killers and govt of Pakistan should imediately make a strong law to hang these cruel terroist/killers in the chock to make a deterence so that these events are not committed again Wake up Govt and ineffective national assembly and Senate
Komal S
August 16, 2012 2:22 pm
It is not just enough to condemn this act in the newspapers. When Aafia was found guilty by US courts thousands of fanatics went to the streets in Pakistan. When something like that can stir up so much passion in the country, i do not understand why the moderate forces in Pakistan show their strength and go to the streets in support of the shias, hindus being forced to migrate etc... If you don't you are going to lose your country forever.
August 16, 2012 2:21 pm
Mr. Khalid, I second your thoughts and concerns. It is extremely sad and I silently pray for all people who have lost their lives to mindless terror in any part of the world, irrespective of nationality or religion. May your country find peace soon. Rakesh, India
August 16, 2012 2:19 pm
Pakistan Zindabad.
August 16, 2012 2:18 pm
Cyrus Howell
August 16, 2012 2:18 pm
The Shias will soon be leaving for Iran and everyone will be happy.
Imran SIddiqui
August 16, 2012 2:17 pm
Yes, still Pakistan zindabad. This is our country and we need to fix this country and we will insha-Allah.
Imran SIddiqui
August 16, 2012 2:16 pm
before inviting Pakistanis, take millions of Afghans back from Pakistan. Those Afghan refugees are spreading poverty, drugs and illegal weapons in Pakistan and they are a big burden over Pakistan. Please take them back! BTW, Shias are a minorty in Afghanistan and they were hated in not too distant past.
Imran SIddiqui
August 16, 2012 2:13 pm
Stop spreading lies. Imran Khan never said that he support Taliban or Mulla Umer to rule Pakistan. Imran Khan will make all deicssions in interest of Pakistan and not in interest of Sunnis or Shias!!
August 16, 2012 12:06 pm
Pakistan has got history's most impotent government right now.
August 16, 2012 2:09 pm
Worst era of Pakistan history. Even criminal did not spare the month of Ramazan.
August 16, 2012 2:06 pm
Yes! Pakistan exists very much as an state. There is no need to give lesson since the independence. There are bad people all over including in India. Once situation is stabilized in Afghanistan all this crap will go away. Of course, there will always be disagreements and that is universal and happens in countries all over the world.
August 16, 2012 2:05 pm
oh my god..!! this incident has nothing to do with Islam, None of any sect or anything say kill people, they are not humans who did this, they should be punished and should be example for others, and also don't forget these people could be any one, there's lot of people and country who don't want to live us in peace.
August 16, 2012 2:05 pm
You guys aren't alone. We indians also have the religious extremists who slaughter people in the name of hinduism. Don't know an easy answer to this problem. If our institutions like govt and police are representative of our society's culture then we're indeed backwards people compared to the western world.
August 16, 2012 2:03 pm
Mumtaz, I think Mullah Omer has nothing to do with this incidents and it's not done by any Islamic extremist group. TTP Afghanistan and TTP Pakistan are two different entities and we all know who is behind TTP Pakistan. They are not hardcore muslims, they are working for foreign agencies, trained and paid by them, trying to divide Pakistanis by creating a rift based on sect and nationalities.
August 16, 2012 2:02 pm
What a coward act to kill innocent people in this holy month, i feel really sorry for all those shias. i dont know where is Pakistan heading at the moment but surely towards disaster with the present leadership of the country, the govt has to be blamed for all this, what kind of security measures were taken to avoid these kind of violence, who ever did this horrible act cannot call them self Muslims because Islam does not teach you all this killing innocent people
August 16, 2012 1:57 pm
I can just say shame on the so called Islamic Ulemas and those political parties in Pakistan who are not openly criticizing such barbaric acts and rather supporting these Taliban groups who are barbarian and have no religion to believe. Equally government and all other political, social, media and justice system is to be blamed for their inaction.__
August 16, 2012 1:57 pm
The two nation theory was correct at that time.Current situation in India is a prove of it where all minorities are raising thier voices for lack of oppertunities in all aspects of live. We never face extreme sectarian rift till Zia era which used religion as a political weapon to divide and rule the country. The attitude needs to be changed with establishment / decision makers. Extremist can not be a "strategic assets", it is rather a curse !
August 16, 2012 1:01 pm
stop the bus, get all off, check papers/ID cards, select few to be killed at point blank. oh! they were all humans !!!!!
August 16, 2012 1:27 pm
After hearing all this, I am even considering changing my religion.
August 16, 2012 1:01 pm
Pakistan is like a rudderless ship under this so called 'government'. Last night Kamra airbase was attacked and now this heinous crime against the Shias who were travelling to celebrate Eid. What a shame. Pakistan has become a savage and barbaric piece of land.
A Bajwaa
August 16, 2012 12:59 pm
The only way out is to allow every one to carry arms. The government cannot be every where.
August 16, 2012 12:59 pm
This is barbaric and it is high time the law makers and govt do something about these horrific acts.
silent observer
August 16, 2012 12:58 pm
I have faith but I have lost hope in the capability of the Government to do anything. If at all they mean business, I advise them to remove religion from the business of the state. The constitution is wrong and not sacred anymore. Amend it, rewrite it and make it religion neutral. This will be the strongest signal from the top.
August 16, 2012 12:57 pm
August 16, 2012 1:01 pm
I dont think it is appropriate for media to make this sort of headline,it could have been "atleast 20 people pulled of bus" instead of saying shias.This might instigate people more.I know its a very tragic incident be it to any person in the world despite of what religion he belongs to.The whole bus might be of Shias out of which these ones were picked.Killers kill every body ,they have no respect for humanity at all ,its not just about Sunnis and Shias.
August 16, 2012 12:20 pm
No END to the violence against the Shias,in particular. Pakistan has become a haven for the terrorists backed and supported by the Anti state enemies are free to roam and go on killing sprees. Is there no law to catch such criminals and bring them to justice?????//
Hamid Hameed
August 16, 2012 12:57 pm
First Kamra Air Base and then this...it is in reaction to the Army's resolve against the terrorists. They are petty mafias of criminal minded animals and they want to control Pakistan. Media use the word 'Commanders' for these pests which have infested all major cities of Pakistan. These traitors are waging a civil war and will win, because the traitors always win especially those who use Islam as their weapon.
August 16, 2012 12:53 pm
I wish you happy indepenece day But dont you think innocent should not be killed It is not importent whether you are sunni or shia or hindu or christian . They are all children of God. What creats hatred as wrong teaching of religious heads that your religion is superior to all other
August 16, 2012 12:53 pm
Pakistan needs an Ataturk who can get rid of religious extremest organisations. Radical surgery is needed to eradicate this cancer.
Dr. AbidShahMashwani
August 16, 2012 12:50 pm
This is sad and shameful. I can not beleive someone still call himself a muslim if he could commit such a henous crime again humanity, especially in the month of Ramadan. I'll not blame this on a religion rather government should take full responsibility and should punish irrespective of what is the religion or sect of the killer and the victim. Any one on the soil of Pakistan should be the responsibility of the government to protect and if they can not then they have no right to stay in power. HELL with DEMOCRACY - people need protection.
August 16, 2012 3:47 pm
ray wake up and smell the roses its people like you pakistan find itself in this mess, no sir the situation will not improve until the citizen want it to. stop blaming everyone else and their dads for your own created mess.
August 16, 2012 12:49 pm
Have we got a 'Government' in Pakistan? What a strange thought you have.
August 16, 2012 12:48 pm
We should hold accountable all those parties let it be political or religious who do not condemn these killings.
August 16, 2012 12:48 pm
First you create a country based on religion, then ban parties based on religion. How silly! :D
August 16, 2012 12:46 pm
Khalid Mia... Cool Down. I understand yr feelings. Few more Pakistanis like you will change the future of Pakistan. Insha Allah.
August 16, 2012 12:46 pm
How sad it is. Not sure whether culprits are religious fanatics OR foriegn agents in the name of religious fanatics. How shame it is that this happened third time in six month and government could not catch even one of the culprit.
August 16, 2012 12:05 pm
What a Shame! What is happening to our country? May Allah help us :(
August 16, 2012 12:43 pm
Yes it is ethnic cleansing. If you are not like me then I will kill you (If I say x and you say Y, X is not the same as Y, so you shall die...is that ethnic cleansing? YES IT IS shame on these criminals who have taken innocent lives. May they burn in hell forever!!!
August 16, 2012 12:42 pm
At the end of the day they were human beings .. it is most reprehensible that they were targeted just because they belonged to certain faith... Pakistan needs to be a more liberal country else it will become another Afghanistan.. What a mess their ruling class is making of a country...
August 16, 2012 12:39 pm
then some one has to send letter to Pakistan that do not kill muslims , wow what a god made people to kill people by the name of religion any way D day if not far
August 16, 2012 12:39 pm
... and the politicians are crying foul about Rohingyas...
August 16, 2012 12:38 pm
Ahmad, Please do not start this indian nonsense. Even my own chowkidar from the area of the massacre will not agree with this. Wake up , it is lack of education and people are becoming more and more radical in Pakistan. Zia's era saudi influence was the last stab in the wound. It just so happens that the population of the country in 1998 was 133 million. Today in 2012 it is 183 million. We just have more mullahs running around and intolerance is more and more apparent. It is a cancer that we need to eradicate.
August 16, 2012 12:37 pm
I believe in Pakistan all these kind of activities those people are involved who took the visas from USA i'm talking about those 7000 USA intelligent people who are in Pakistan from Khayber to Karachi. On one side they USA offering us aid and on other hand they killing our minorities, attacking out military places so our military work against them. O people of Pakistan please try to understand how they are working. Money is king and queen every where and with respect in Pakistan this statement apply as well. So, as a Pakistani what i think we need to clear our Pakistani land from these 7000 USA spies otherwise they will buy our people with the power of money and these kind of incident will happen. ALLAH SAVE OUR PAKISTAN. AMEEN
August 16, 2012 12:20 pm
I hope there will be another Sitar-i-Imtiaz or Honourary Degree for our ever hard working and patriotic Interior Minister!!
August 16, 2012 1:01 pm
which ulemas would you like to have this condemned?do u suggest that the media should at once go to the Ulema's to take their condemnation? everyone criticizes this and nobody endorses it as Islam. lack of tolerance everywhere!
August 16, 2012 12:36 pm
Inna lillah. 20 Shias killed and who killed them? Sunnis? NO. The answer is that these murderers cannot be Muslims (Shia or Sunnis). Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Atheist - everyone should have a right to live and practice their religion as long as they are Pakistani. Government is busy in hiding corruption, living a lavish life and playing games with judiciary. Do they even know that they are responsible for stuff like security, inflation, jobs, growth, roads, infrastructure etc. NO. Elections are not far and I request all Pakistanis to vote a person you think is honest and sincere.
Iqbal Haider Zaidi
August 16, 2012 12:31 pm
It is the height of incompetence on the part of Government...Our rulers are only worried about their IQTIDAR...which, at all costs, is to be protected. They are not concerned/interested in protection of their Citizens. ALAS
August 16, 2012 12:30 pm
since the government and the security agencies are not serious to address the security issues of minorities , the media is busy with supreme court and the letter fuss. the shias in pakistan should follow the foot steps of hindus and migrate to some safer place and lets see whom taliban kills once the shia evacuation is completed.
Vishnu Dutta
August 16, 2012 12:30 pm
Rehman Malik: Ban double savari in the area, ban shia website and youtube. And also blame it on external hand and call it a conspiracy against pakistan. That seems to solve the problem everytime.
Syed Ali
August 16, 2012 3:38 pm
These fanatics thinks that by killing shia's they can end the shiasm .. May god give them some real knowledge of teachings of islam.. i dont know whatQuran do they read and where does that published .. These fanatics only have one way to be send ( HELLLLL ) ... No mercy !!!
August 16, 2012 11:53 am
All Hazaras are Shias, it seems Que is not aware of that. Anyone killed in this manner is deplorable, whether Shias or Sunnis. It is clearly with the blessing of a super power who wants to create secrerian violence across the MENA region between the two main secrs in Islam. I hope the Madrasas are better monitored.
August 16, 2012 11:50 am
Dawn has been a reliable reporter of news.But why is it that instead of writing "Several Shias",they are writing "several"only?By doing this one cannot fight against ethnic cleansing of shias.Please do contribute towards this injustice!
August 16, 2012 11:47 am
Why does the put a ban on all the weapons... since our people are not capable to handle the responsibility of carrying weapons.. its just sad that events like these happen so often and nothing is being done about it. Our President has no intention to resolve these issues.
August 16, 2012 11:46 am
because they weren't
sunny leone
August 16, 2012 11:46 am
" It could not be asertained whether the attacks were sectarain or not " Oh NO, It was not sectarian just a deed out of natural love and affection !!!!
August 16, 2012 11:43 am
Because there has never been a Sunni massacre based on religion
August 16, 2012 11:18 am
Y isnt it mentioned that they were Sunni's?the way it is mentioned about other sects.
August 16, 2012 11:18 am
Tony(earlier Amin)
August 16, 2012 3:46 pm
go for it.. been there done that.
August 16, 2012 3:26 pm
There is a saying "Jaisi qaum hai waisay he uskai leader". God is not going to select a "farishta" out of the land of corrupt people to come and lead the country. If you really care about this country then do more than just putting posts here!
August 16, 2012 11:15 am
Another Shia massacre in Chilas, kindly state the facts rather than being diplomatic about such atrocities.
August 16, 2012 11:12 am
The government is not taking the security situation seriously.Sectarian or not it is the duty of the government to provide security to its citizen.They should raid the madarsas which are preaching killings and arrest the culprits and close the madersas fo good.
Ahmad A.
August 16, 2012 3:05 pm
In a true democratic government an interior minister would have resigned. Not Rehman Malick, he is only concerned with the safety of his boss, AAZ. There is complete anarchy, killing somone because they do n't practice your brand of Islam is beyond any logic. Where are those pious mullahs, where is Maulana Fazal ur Rehman,why don't they come out & condemn this atrocity. And civil society is taking it on the chin, no one cares.
August 16, 2012 3:05 pm
I am not a Sunni. But keep in mind that a true Sunni would never endorse such atrocities. I truly believe that these gunmen are highly paid assassins working on some agenda directed by some rogue, foreign or domestic elements. It’s high time that the media should get their act together and be brave enough to start calling them "Kafirs" instead of gunmen. It’s the only way discourage any further indoctrination of young people into their fold.
August 16, 2012 1:38 pm
an operation should be launched against these miscreants ASAP! other wise this will ruin our dwindling tourim in GB!
Riza Afghan
August 16, 2012 1:39 pm
Zindabad for what ? There should be something to be proud of. Killing innocent people and doing nothing to prevent it ? that's what you are proud of ???
akhter husain
August 16, 2012 3:04 pm
Had there been no partition ,the same thing would have happened to Hindus and Sikhs.and Muslims with greater frequency..There could have been no ending of chaos,inviting external intervention.Please think for a moment and make an opinion.
August 16, 2012 10:59 am
How many more be killed.... when will this nation rise against terrorist, when will leader act against terrorism & when will mullas of this country give fatwa against these terrorist! WHEN??
August 16, 2012 10:47 am
Another day, another massacre!!!!
K.M. Nawaz
August 16, 2012 11:05 am
Pakistan Zindabad
August 16, 2012 11:02 am
Why use months old picture with latest news?
August 16, 2012 3:06 pm
then they will go after brelvis, hanafis etc if remained unchecked they will keep on going until everyone is gone or dead
Hussain Shah
August 16, 2012 11:28 am
They were not Sunnis they were Shias, sadly media misreported the Massacre of Shias as Sunnis, Any ways, even if they were Sunnis it is just sad to know that how low is the value of Human beings in Pakistan. I pity those killed.
August 16, 2012 3:24 pm
RIP to all poor souls... this is not regarding religion guys this is pure politics in the name of religion and for sure outsiders job...
A. Nasir
August 16, 2012 11:24 am
Why is Dawn.com reluctant to identify the victims as Shias? Is it because dawn.com hasn't been able to confirm this for a fact?
August 16, 2012 11:37 am
They were not SUNNIS.They were SHIAS.And why is it said that its was sectarian killing?it is simply ethnic cleansing?
August 16, 2012 12:13 pm
In the holy month of Ramadan that is what Islam preaching you to kill innocent people? Govt of Pakistan has failed protect the lives of its citizens on a number of occasions. There is no place to go for ordinary Pakistanis, at home they are killed by religious fanatics.
August 16, 2012 12:12 pm
how can kashmiris who are mostly shia like pak ? unless not a single religious party condemns ?
August 16, 2012 12:13 pm
District Mansehra is not Chilas. This is a fact.
M Sajid
August 16, 2012 12:12 pm
I can just say shame on the so called Islamic Ulemas in Pakistan who are not openly criticizing such barbarric acts. Equally government is to be blamed for their inaction.
August 16, 2012 12:12 pm
Welcome to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan ! The land of Pious people . What a targedy cant find words to condemn this barbarian act!
Goga Nalaik
August 16, 2012 12:27 pm
The government seems to have failed in controlling this burning issue. Shias represent 30% of our total population. There are at least 60 million shias in Pakistan. Mr President,do something before they come on the road. This is a highly sensitive issue.
nur khan
August 16, 2012 1:17 pm
you are talking about kashmir, now even the people of gilgit baltistan will vote against Pakistan, if such a referendum is conducted in GB.
Sunny Kumar
August 16, 2012 12:24 pm
You created a country by dividing its people based on religion. Just because some elite group thought that they would loose power to rule in democratic set up. Its same menace which never stopped. partition, We Vs Bangla, Ahemdiya , Kadiayani, Baloch, ..now Shia ..Pathan - got Drone love shower... who knows next may be Sindhi.. dice just keep on rolling.. We can not go back in time and correct it.. We have stop some where and reconcile..Now do Pakistan as state really exist!!
August 16, 2012 12:23 pm
August 16, 2012 12:22 pm
Very unfortunate. I think as a nation we are not serious about the sanctity of human life. If we were, the situation would not have reached this point. Our enemies, the terrorists, also know this.
August 16, 2012 1:55 pm
It makes you wonder who are these "animals" who call themselves "Real Muslims". They are not only a curse on Islam, they are a curse on humanity itself. I guess this is a present given by "real Muslims" to humanity for Pakistan's independence, Ramazan and Laiilat ul Qadr. I can't imagine if animals would perform such heanous massacre as they have more honor than these scum-bags.
August 16, 2012 1:15 pm
He is referring to a another massacre in Chilas that happened not too long ago. Mansehra is not Chillas but it is in same wider region. What are you trying to achieve by nit picking? would it make a difference in the severity of the situation?
August 16, 2012 1:22 pm
For God Sake. This is not muslims against muslims. It is only and only militant sunnis against shias. Always one sided affair. Don't fool the ignorant please
August 16, 2012 1:17 pm
This is a shameful act... can these barbarics claim to be following the religion preached by Prohpet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)? Incidents like these make me think that indeed pakistan is going to be perish from world map... first the PEW survey and now this ... the culprits should be caught immediately and if the concerned authorities fail to do so then they themselves should be vigorously punished...Its a Black day for pakistan and what independence were we celebrating 2 days ago when we are facing worse enslavement by these wicked and vile beasts.
August 16, 2012 1:12 pm
This messacher! Muslims against Muslims! Now I can understand why 250 Hindu (infidels of course) families decided to flee the country. Wa Salaam
August 16, 2012 1:11 pm
The adherent of Islam are accelerating the destruction of the religion quicker than any of it's adversaries can.. All they have to do is sit back and watch this religion of Peace self destruct, while the clergy fiddles all across the Isalmic world.
August 16, 2012 1:11 pm
Agree with you Khalid. Its an insult to sunnis that these fanatics are called sunnis, infact its a disgrace for humans that these barbarians are called humans.
August 16, 2012 1:08 pm
Ocassionaly when some is brought to justice. Justice releases them 'every time'
August 16, 2012 1:06 pm
if UN conduct referendum in Kashmir today.. I don't think PAK can win... chances are high that Pak looses its part
Riza Afghan
August 16, 2012 1:07 pm
In Afghanistan - we do have way too many Shias in Afghanistan and we have nothing against them. Killing is way too far to even think about it. So why Pakistan can't do the same ? Pakistani Shias should really consider coming to Afghanistan, they can count Afghanistan as their home. Shia,Sunni - they are all the same in Afghanistan, have no difference. Pakistani Government is doing nothing to stop this, it's been happening for years now.
Kamram Haider
August 16, 2012 1:06 pm
I fully agree with Khalid's views. Pakistan has almost become a terrorist state. Any Pakistani comes on vacation from abroad they are asked on their return whether their training completed in Waziristan! We Pakistanis have become very notorious nations because of these handful extremists who do not endure other sects and want to force their brand of sect in the country . Such extremists and terrorists want to form a Taliban type of government like previously in Afghanistan. They have defamed the name of our country and Islam. These illiterate and ill-minded extremists do not know what is real Islam. Islam always teaches us compassion and mercy but unfortunately such elements and extremists in the country give fatwa to kill others who do not accept their bran of Islam! They have zero tolerance and due to these elements Pakistan has reached at the brink of anarchy. I wish a great Muslim leader would appear and set the country on the right track so that everyone could live with freedom!
August 16, 2012 1:54 pm
Islam is a religion of peace! We are all God's children and all faiths teach us to love each other. Where are we going wrong? It is the misinterpretation of our religion that results in such despicable atrocities. If we can only truly believe that we are all God's children and that God loves us all equally, that what goes around comes around and much can be gained by living in peace rather than war and most of all, let common sense prevail - if we can live with those principles, we truly can have heaven on earth. If each of us start believing in it and living by it, we can make a difference.
M. Khan
August 16, 2012 1:52 pm
Our condolences to those who lost heir dear ones. May Allah's curse be on Mulla Omar.
August 16, 2012 1:50 pm
How low we the "Muslims" can go. Don't look at the people in power to take any action. Those clown.
Abdullah Hussain
August 16, 2012 1:48 pm
It is the duty of the law enforcing agencies together with the intelligence agencies to thwart all attempts to de -stabilize Pakistan. No doubt they are giving great sacrifices for the country but then we don't want them getting killed rather they should kill the offenders. Pakistan needs a very strong security & surveillance system in place before we can control the terrorists & their considerate.
August 16, 2012 1:46 pm
IMRAN KHAN will make the sunshine and the flowers grow!
August 16, 2012 1:44 pm
Religion of Peace?
Jamshed Khan
August 16, 2012 1:32 pm
Tragic is not the world that expresses the gravity of this tragedy. But please don't blame Sunnis for this. Criminals exist in all religions and societies. Those who committed this heinous criminal act can only have political and territorial motives instead of religious ones.
Kamran Haider
August 16, 2012 1:29 pm
I fear you have lack of information about the real situation and sectarian violence in Gilgit-Baltistan. The sectarian violence is said to be initiated by the then General Zia by declaring Pakistan a Sunni State to prolong his regime and since then we have been facing this grave situation in the Northern Areas and this sectarian conflict has engulfed almost the entire country. Both sects are not ready to endure each other and therefore such incidents usually occur and now the prominent KKH has not been a safe route to travel to Gilgit or Islamabad. Because of this sectarian violence tourism has been declined. Gilgit-Balistan is considered to be the heaven on earth but some ill-minded people are trying to destroying the peace.
August 16, 2012 4:37 pm
Can some educted pakistani do some research on why Shias are being murdered on a regular basis? Is this a religion issue, if it is then why not partition pakistan again? After all pakistan believes in partitions for minorities, isn't it?
August 16, 2012 4:46 pm
What is equally concerning that our media has stopped referring to followers of this particular sect as "shia muslims" and now identifies them as "shias". This silently contributes to the marginalization of this sect of Islam and identifies them as anything but muslims.
Muhammad Alvi
August 16, 2012 4:48 pm
Today's muslims are a source of shame for everyone. We fell so in USA.
August 16, 2012 4:57 pm
Please don't make mess of it. It's a conspiracy against ummah. Sunni's aren't behind this. An ordinary muslim has no grudge or hard feelings for Shias. They are like our brothers. It's a conspiracy by the external forces to divide the nation and destroy Pakistan.
Dr-Mohammad Ayub
August 16, 2012 5:03 pm
quite true
August 16, 2012 5:04 pm
Waiting Imran Khan to condemn this barbaric act of Taliban – when will he stop supporting this ruthless killers?
Muazzam Siddiqui
August 16, 2012 5:04 pm
If one innocent person is killed, it is like killing the entire humanity. The entire humanity is being killed everyday in Pakistan. The sad part is that the people who are comitting thiese atrocities don't understand anything but violence and will have to be hunted and killed to put an end to this bloodshed.
Irfan Hussain
August 16, 2012 5:10 pm
Its not ethnic cleansing - its sectarian cleansing of All Shia muslims, weather they are in Quetta, Gilgit or Karachi
August 16, 2012 5:11 pm
Pakistan is full of people like you, who like to blame 'outsiders' for all our ill. We are doomed, thanks to people like you.
Shahid Raza
August 16, 2012 5:18 pm
Pakistan is facing lot of internal and external challenges. I am requesting CJ to stay away from weakening country’s democratic institutions at this juncture
August 16, 2012 5:19 pm
Where are the MNA's, Cabinet Ministers, Leaders of the Political Parties and above all the Religious Leaders? Why are they not out On streets asking for "??????" to stop. Do not blame anyone. No one but current adminstration is responsible for this. I want SUNNI ulema and SUNNIS in general to stand up and protect PAKISTANIS (no matter what their regilious believes are). Shame on all of us.
Ummer Khan
August 16, 2012 5:27 pm
You are right!
Adeel Raza
August 16, 2012 5:42 pm
I disagree. They are not 'sunni' militants but a bunch of mercenaries carrying out an evil crime using Islam as a pretext. I am a Syed shia with many sunni friends. This is not sunni vs shia but fundamentalism vs tolerence; love vs hate;etc.
Abdul rauf
August 16, 2012 5:43 pm
Just a personal opinion, you shouldn't judge a religion by people practing it during its fall. May be that's the very reason of their fall - they had ruined the true spirit.
August 16, 2012 5:56 pm
Don't think too much. I have already done it. We need to be human first. Tariq
Iqbal hussain
August 16, 2012 5:57 pm
Thanks, you are a day dreamer, keep dreaming my friend, NO one could correct the situation in Afghanistan. Alexander to Moghals, to British to Russians and now USA (Thanks to father and son of Bush family) all have failed. Sir, why not just leave them alone. All such crusaders have destroyed and killed thousands of innocent poor people, in Iraq, Afghanistan, border areas of Pakistan, now leave them alone. Thanks. Iqbal Hussain. USA.
(Dr.) B.N. Anand
August 16, 2012 6:21 pm
Sir, I have a different view point. The two nation theory as propounded by Quid-e-Azam was thus not a visionary idea, as, according to you,it was relevant only at that time. A visionary idea always stands the test of time. If it is a short lived vision,then it is an opportunistic idea to support one's argument. Einsrtein's theory of Relativity has stood the test of times. Even if there are differences with that concept, no body disputes the fundamentals of the theory. Hope you take it in a positive spirit. BNA
August 16, 2012 6:29 pm
Just have a look at today news on bbc about clashes in various states in India based on religion, http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/india/2012/08/120816_as... There are countless incidents where minorities are badly treated in India.
August 16, 2012 6:33 pm
Rehamn Malik: Even if it is being done by some "foreign hand". That "foreign hand" does have a "domestic hand". Can you break that "domestic hand" first and then we can worry about the "foreign hand"?
Numan Sheikh
August 16, 2012 6:34 pm
My friend, I'd dare to differ. History is not a hard science so its not fair to compare a social/historical theory with a scientific one. Most of us would probably agree with Marx as a visionary, but if his ideas fail to make a mark on the current politics, it doesn't rip him off the credit he deserves. Hope the positive spirit is reciprocated. Numan Sheikh
August 16, 2012 6:39 pm
Final analysis is between you and Allah.
August 16, 2012 6:44 pm
insaniat khatam ho gaey hai; bahyis jaanwar !
August 16, 2012 7:04 pm
After you change your religion I suggest you go to school and study things such as logic and just other gen ed courses. You are judging the whole religion based on what? Some extremists who the west created to kick out Russia from Taliban, and is now supporting to help them change the regime in Syria. Stop jumping to conclusions based on other people's actions. Judging from your reply I don't even think you ARE muslim.. Judge the religion based on your own research INTO the religion not into it's bad followers. I can show you 10 times the Muslims that live their lives so honestly compared to these extremist.
Gopal (before Ajita)
August 16, 2012 7:09 pm
Too many Indians posting under Muslim names here.
August 16, 2012 7:29 pm
It's not the religion, it's the followers. No need to change the religion, you need to stop following the followers.
August 16, 2012 7:32 pm
Nice post, I am surprised why people didn't like it
August 16, 2012 7:34 pm
This is true, DAWN is favorite Indian news website.
August 16, 2012 7:40 pm
M.A. Jinnah wanted a nation governed by Muslims, not an Islamic state. The farther Pakistan goes down the path of defining itself in terms of Islamic 'purity', the greater will be the socio-cultural conflicts that will arise. Just go back to what Jinnah said in 1947. Pakistan will not feel the craving for an Attaturk.
August 16, 2012 7:40 pm
The next response will be - Shias and Sunnis should stop this madness, as if both are equally to blame. Everyone knows this game for far to long. When Shias will retaliate, the same theme will be repeated, with even greater conviction. We've gone through this same path several times.
Sarfraz Khan
August 16, 2012 7:42 pm
Remove religion from passports and IDs carrying guns on that route. These terrorists will not budge and will kill more now since the Army is about to start it's Waziristan operation.
Gerry D'Cunha
August 16, 2012 7:42 pm
What a shame!! Muslims killing their own Muslims brothers in the holy month of Ramdan. Where are the champions of Islam 'Islamic parties' now will be ready to blame USA and India behind this killings. Hiprocrates,fear God, His curse is very near on you. Where do you stand my dear minorities 'brothers and sisters' in Pakistan when muslims themself are not protected by their own muslims. God help the innocent people of Pakistan.
Asad Raza
August 16, 2012 7:46 pm
religion is not flawed ,man is. ignorance and illitracy are our enemy.
Maria Rather
August 16, 2012 7:51 pm
So unfortunate... And surprisingly Zardari is not doing anything. This act is not at all Islamic but barbaric. These people who did this massacre should be caught and punished so harshly that no one else does that to anyone be it any Muslim .
August 16, 2012 8:03 pm
It is absolutely appalling to see these so called self proclaimed righteous mullahs creating hate amongst different sects. The people who are involved in this brutality doesn't deserve to be a part of any community. They are pure evil!!!!
August 16, 2012 8:26 pm
I was born in India moved to East Pakistan lived for a few years in Bangladdesh and now have finally found peace and security in USA. Of course I still have a soft spot for Pakistan but these kind of incidents and lack of protection for citizens of all kind begins to confirm that Pakistan is or becoming a failed state and worse a failed state with a nuclear weapon.I feel if this ethnic violence is not stopped effectively and quickly it will lead to worse things to come.God bless and help Pakistan.
August 16, 2012 8:40 pm
Shame on Taliban, their supporters, sympathysizers, financers & last but not the least some people in Pakistan who are quiet on such barbaric incidents and try to jusfy them on the basis of some conspiracy theory.
August 16, 2012 9:04 pm
I agree. At the very least, go vote your next leader. If you believe Imran K may be of some help then go say it at the ballot box. Not voting is equal to voting for the same misery to last. Please register to vote. Please...
August 16, 2012 9:16 pm
August 16, 2012 9:19 pm
It should just be Pakistan.
August 16, 2012 9:25 pm
Pakistan is born to live forever "Pakistan Zindabad:
August 16, 2012 9:38 pm
DAWN is a reflection of Pakistani talent. BTW, reread my comment because your answer exposes the Indian talent.
August 16, 2012 10:29 pm
This is a Very shameful and barbaric act of terrorism. No religion, state or authority would approve of that in this day and age. We do not have enough evidence or data to point finger on any one person, group or country. What we need is the reason(s) as to who and why??? This is not an act of an individual obviously, it has to be investigated why this sort of hatred towards one sect. This is a message to the rest of us that there is a group of people who have certain demands and someone HAS to hear them out before more innocents loose their lives. Unfortunately, it rolls back to our leader who has to get involved in this mountainous task. to figure out a solution. There are Shias living in other parts of the world but this type of slaughtering make us stand out. If the current government is incapable of protecting its citizens and we as a nation just watch and wait, also means that we are involved in it and agree with our government.......
August 16, 2012 10:31 pm
This means every time an incident happens, you will change religion. Good!
M Khaleeq
August 16, 2012 10:43 pm
Fantastic reply. Hats off to you mate.
August 16, 2012 11:16 pm
All we need is good old Musharaf put back in the Presidency. He can clean it all.
andy fr dc
August 16, 2012 11:56 pm
ah, Islam, the religon of peace. Tell me, was there anywhere in the world today where christians did this to other Christians? Or Hindus Etc Etc Etc
August 17, 2012 12:23 am
What you talking about! Imran havent even condemned this act. If he is quiet at this I consider him as one of the criminals.
August 17, 2012 12:33 am
They were identified as Shias AFTER the killers checked their ID cards. If the religion and ethnicity were not written on the ID cards, the killers would not have known that they were Shias. Do away with recording religion on ID cards.
August 17, 2012 12:38 am
Mention clearly what you ment by external force. Is it India? Is it people from Indian army came and killed these people's. If you are having this attitude these killings will never stop.
August 17, 2012 12:41 am
it is NOT mention in ID cards that somone is a Shia Muslim or a Sunni Muslim.. Stop spreading lies, when you don't know anything! Ali.
August 17, 2012 12:43 am
He does NOT support 'Talibans'.. he does not support army action in Waziristan and opposes drone attacks (rightly so)
August 17, 2012 12:45 am
they have openly condemed TTP many times in the past. Ali
S. A. M.
August 17, 2012 1:06 am
Dear Zishi very soon a gorup of taliban will be taking responsibility like so many times in the past.
S. A. M.
August 17, 2012 1:09 am
True Ajay bcoz u never know when it can spill over to other places?
August 17, 2012 1:15 am
'Infidels' and 73 likes . what a shame bro . We are in 21st Century !!!!!!!!
Saifullah Samo
August 17, 2012 1:16 am
It is simple, this government has failed to perform its functions. It is vital at this juncture to change this govt and install a set of professional people on merit to run the govt. If the authorities concerned do not take immediate action we are likely to go for a big jump and that would be too late
August 17, 2012 1:17 am
It seems like you must be one of those "outsiders"
Karachi Wala
August 17, 2012 1:18 am
Saleem. and when do you plan to wake up? I am sick and disgusted with all the conspiricy theories. As someone has posted earlier, even if there is an outside hand, there is an inside hand helping the outside hand. First, cut the inside hand and there shall be no outside hand.
August 17, 2012 1:18 am
Person born into any religion (or no religion) = person able to make a choice when they reach adulthood, as to which, if any, religious lifestyle to follow. Being born into a family of a particular religious belief, does not mean a person will believe that religion, only that they will be taught about it. In my early teens, when I was old enough to start serious analytical thinking, I quickly realised that religion simply did not make sense. and that goes for all religions. I am horrified at how many religions preach love and acceptance yet practice hatred and intolerance. Religion was introduced as a way of controlling uneducated masses. Nothing more
Faiza G R Bhatt
August 17, 2012 1:21 am
Surely it was PTI and Imran Khan who had visited Hazara community during their Blochistan visit to sympathize with the community. on numerous occasions, Imran has cited ruthless killing of Hazara community as unacceptable.
August 17, 2012 1:23 am
The article said these people were shot after checking their papers. Do people's papers there show their religion down to sect level?
August 17, 2012 1:26 am
Will China please take over this country and clean up the mess...
August 17, 2012 1:30 am
Pakistan has the A- Bomb....... I say drop it in on the (expletive) in Saudi Arabia. There will be SEA of CHANGE!
faiza g.r. bhatt
August 17, 2012 1:31 am
in fact, Imran Khan and his PTI are the only parties who sympathized with Hazara community during their visit of Balochistan and have been lambasting sectarian violence in every interview and public gathering. so shame on you for lying.
August 17, 2012 1:33 am
Heard that before ! Just more of the same bull shit. It's not only killers but also the bystanders like you who Re to blame.
August 17, 2012 1:39 am
Iqbal in one of his drunken states impregnated Bharat Mata with the concept of Pakistan....... Should've taken the morning after pill or atleast aborted!
August 17, 2012 1:59 am
The ID cards do not have the sect, but they do have religion. These perpetrators determine the sect by name. But too bad we can not have an ID card without any name.
August 17, 2012 2:12 am
They killed them by first identifying and then terming them Kaafir and WaajibulQatal, which is based on religion and is preached in seminaries, this is happening across Pakistan. What other indication do you need to term it a religion motive incident.
August 17, 2012 2:15 am
I wonder whether it was worth to establish a Muslim country/ Pakistan, where Muslims are killing other Muslims brothers and sisters almost every day even in the religious month of Ramadan !
August 17, 2012 2:16 am
IF the two nation theory was correct, then why did we abandon Bangladesh ?
August 17, 2012 2:20 am
The only hope of a peaceful Pakistan is a secular Pakistan (just like Jinnah wanted). I hope people will agree with me on this.
Zafarullah Al Baksh
August 17, 2012 2:25 am
Why do you have to compare everything with India? Is killing od Shias justified because India mistreats its minorities?
August 17, 2012 2:25 am
Hah, I just wonder what during early period caused this religion to spread like a cancer in the first place, looking at the history of first 100 years of its time it certainly paints the very same picture we see and detest today.
August 17, 2012 2:27 am
... as a nation ... ? ahahahhahaha u said it ...
August 17, 2012 2:29 am
Peace? No we said pieces!
August 17, 2012 2:31 am
The Government of Pakistan should be held accountable for this massacre. The Army should be held accountable for this massacre. Where is the hounrable CJ with his suo moto action. He forgets it convieniently as he is part and parcel of this plague.
Ronnie Dsouza
August 17, 2012 2:42 am
Azam, you summed it up so well, agree with you all the way.
August 17, 2012 3:19 am
How could they tell who is shia or who is not? By names?
August 17, 2012 3:21 am
I agree when i see all this in my country. Although it seems crazy for most of us, but think about people who are dead and no more with their families. Can we put ourselves at their places!
August 17, 2012 3:23 am
I am really sad to hear this :( I should blame Uneducated Mullahs!!!
Concerned Pakistani
August 17, 2012 3:29 am
Government of Gilgit and Baltistan should now consider protecting its citizens by allowing them to carry weapons of self-defence while traveling to and fro from the region so that they can defend themselves against cowards who shoot unarmed innocent people while they themselves are armed to the teeth. Those killers think they are here to live forever, I wish they could only see their fate....which is hell for sure, a burning fire. May Allah help our souls as this government surely is incapable of protecting its citizens which is the basic fundamental right of every Pakistani.
August 17, 2012 3:43 am
It says they checked their ids before killing them. Does ids contain such information as one is shia or sunni? Just curious.
momtaz ahmad
August 17, 2012 3:47 am
Pakistan muslims kill muslims,we in Malaysia do not do this;we live in harmony with hindhus,christians,buddist,etc. Pakistanis are sectranian people and all kill in the name of Allah swt. and then shout "Allahu Akbar". Is this the teachings of islam or a cult of barbarians?
August 17, 2012 3:49 am
because shia Muslims are victim of such brutal attack other people are silent because they have nothing to do with it, they think that they are safe but when fire get the forest it burn even those things which are not for burning... ,we as a nation have to be collectively condemn and discourage such extremists and such attacks, otherwise there will be no peace in Pakistani society, because those who got the dead bodies will retaliate.... then there will be destruction...
August 17, 2012 3:50 am
Islam the best religion with its worst followers...
Farhan khan
August 17, 2012 4:08 am
very sorry for the loss of the innocent life.
Haroona Gul
August 17, 2012 4:13 am
No matter who we blame, in the end the government is to be blamed. It is their responsibility to take care of the security of its citizens. Mere blame games for the sake of giving oneself a cover is nothing but failed democracy.
August 17, 2012 4:22 am
How do you know they are religious fanatics?? These operations are conducted by trained people and are conducted in a way to create religious hatred. This is going on in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and now in some Arab countries as well, including Syria. Ordinary Pakistanis and even the Government is not fully aware of what game is being played for the last several decades. Muslims want to live in peace, I dont agree any Muslim would do such thing.
August 17, 2012 4:25 am
As i said elsewhere, these are not Pakistanis and these are not Muslims who commit these crimes. It is made to make you believe it is religious. This is to create religious division and also to alienate Muslims from their religion and from each other. its a global game going on in many Muslim countries.
August 17, 2012 4:48 am
Shamful act. Govt is not interested in stopping such acts otherwise why it is not possible to stop such acts. Madreassas should be crushed who openly teaches such acts . All muslims and leaders should comments on flatly not just on there killers but those who gives such teachings particularly maddrassas.
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