Iran suspends Saudi pilgrimage flights over sexual assault allegations
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DUBAI: Iran has suspended flights to Saudi Arabia for the year-round Umrah pilgrimage over allegations that Saudi security officers sexually assaulted two Iranian boys, Culture Minister Ali Jannati said on Monday.
The move is likely to deepen tensions between the two regional powers, who are at odds over the war in Yemen.
The teenage boys alleged last week that the officers abused them while conducting a security search at Jeddah airport.
"Until these guilty people are put on trial and punished, the Umrah will be stopped and Iranian flights will be suspended," the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA) cited Jannati as saying.
The boys were returning to Tehran from the Umrah, a pilgrimage to Makkah that can be undertaken at any time of the year other than during the Hajj.
Several hundred protesters marched on the Saudi embassy in Tehran on Saturday, despite a ban on public demonstrations.
Jannati said the Saudi authorities had arrested the perpetrators and promised to punish them, ISNA reported.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:27am
but y suspend the flights and deprive the people of Haj and Umrah?
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Apr 14, 2015 10:31am
Not much of a topic for conversation.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:41am
Not sure it is right or wrong but the way these Saudis treat everyone else is despicable and subhuman. these 10th century people need to be banned form the civilised world.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:44am
I am sure its a lie, They are just finding excuses
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Apr 14, 2015 10:45am
Holy places like Mekka and madina should be declared as an independent places belonging to every muslim of the world. A joint neutral body may take over these two places like Vatican
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Apr 14, 2015 10:46am
Pakistan and Turkey must act quickly before it is too late and bring the all parties on table
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Apr 14, 2015 10:47am
it will do no impact on saudi, perhaps they might be happy.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:55am
This is how self respecting nations act/react to disrespect shown towards their people.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:04am
@M Please keep your comments to yourself.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:12am
@CYRUS why not?? the world should be well informed of whats going around..esp when Saudi Arabia is known to be an Islamic country..
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Apr 14, 2015 11:13am
@Honey Badger Sorry, this is not a lie. It is an incident that took place. Iranians don't create an unnecessary issue...
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Apr 14, 2015 11:16am
@ahmad They will not be happy. It is an insult for them..all the more because they were Iranians.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:20am
I think Saudi will be more than happy with suspension of fights from Iran because of difficulties to have a constant check on some unwanted persons from the country.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:24am
@M ---- and why should KSA let this happen when it costs them billions which they earn from poor pilgrims?
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Apr 14, 2015 11:32am
Iran is showing lot of courage towards it's citizens. Had this been Pakistan, there wouldn't be any issue raised. The exploitation of Pakistani workers and beheading of Pakistanis in KSA is prime example of this.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:38am
@ahmad : When this happened once before, Saudis had to ask Iran to come back for Hajj as Iranians provide huge earning to them. Its impact is too big for KSA to bear. They better punish the culprits
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Apr 14, 2015 11:46am
@kuriouskat so even if this is true than due to act of two policmen you ban the whole population from going to umrah how low can they be to gain political leverage out of this
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Apr 14, 2015 11:56am
An expected move by Iran to stop financial benefits to Saudi Arabia
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Apr 14, 2015 11:56am
@CYRUS Not much of a topic ? Oh dear..how so ? KSA beheads drug carriers of other nationalities, right ? But never came to know about beheading of those involved in drug trade inside the country.
Now that this news has been highlighted (despite your views of no topic) let the world see whether the Saudis beheads the culprits in this case or not. OK dear ?
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Apr 14, 2015 11:58am
Its all fake and Iran wants to demoralize the KSA. Irannian have negativity in culture and they are doing the same with other nations
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Apr 14, 2015 12:10pm
These people are treating Makkah and Madinah as their personal property and means of generating income for themselves and their royal cronies!
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Apr 14, 2015 12:24pm
@SAQ dawn has provided this space to say what is on your mind. So his opinion is welcome
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Apr 14, 2015 12:30pm
I am sure that this is just a blame on Saudis from Iran.
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Apr 14, 2015 12:37pm
Right move. The Saudis makes so much money out of Haj and Umrah. They should atleast give due to the pilgrims from whom they earn foreign exchange.
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Apr 14, 2015 12:47pm
I have heard that KSA officials treat Indians and Pakistanis very badly
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Apr 14, 2015 12:49pm
This is not good. I feel deeply sorrow for this dispute that arose among Muslim countries.
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Apr 14, 2015 12:50pm
Suspension is temporary until miscreants are brought to justice. Legal proceeding have already taken place.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:01pm
Not a just step by Iran as Saudi government has arrested the culprits and I am sure they will be duly punished.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:12pm
Typical myopic leadership.Frisk checking at airport is a routine business.In past drugs narcotics and even explosives substances have been recovered hidden in private parts.Than why make such mess out of it and give a collective punishment to your own umrah pilgrims.. Saudis may be feeling far better not to see any irani flights in Kingdom lately.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:16pm
@dak First off, There is no question of "if its true" ..This news already states the perpetrators have been arrested.
Next, this is not mere political point scoring by Iranians, they are hitting the saudis where it matters.. Annual pilgrims, umras and haj are source of huge revenue for saudi arabia.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:19pm
@Moosa You didn't read the news properly. Two Iranians students were detained and harassed in the KSA police.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:20pm
Where is OIC, UN, to resolve the Yemen crisis?
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Apr 14, 2015 01:26pm
@Honey Badger : How can you be so sure? Did you conduct your own investigation?
What about the fact that the Saudi authorities have arrested the men and promised action against them?
I really want to understand what makes you say that you are sure it's a lie?
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Apr 14, 2015 01:29pm
Iran creating problems , making big issue of non issue matters if it's true they should appeal to court not suspend flights which shows Iran intention to defame Saudis .....
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Apr 14, 2015 01:39pm
The treatment of Saudis towards Pakistanis, and citizens of some other countries is also not very good so how come Umrah flights are still operating from these countries? Is it because our governments don't care about their citizens and have not been able to curtail this bad treatment? Is it because the Iranian government raised their voices for bad treatment against their citizens that they have to face the consequences? Saudis treat the Americans and Europeans very well, so are they suggesting that all muslims should become citizens of USA or Europe before they think of performing Umrah!!!???
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Apr 14, 2015 01:48pm
Muslims can't live in peace with even muslims
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Apr 14, 2015 02:15pm
@Sunil Arab league is proactively involved because it is an Arab issue. Yemen is part of Arab world.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:15pm
Wise decision from the Iranian Government. I have been advocating for a long time that Muslim should avoid going to KSA for pilgrimage, because all the money they spend in Arabia is used for the purchase of arms from America and Israel and ends up being used against the Muslims. Also the same money is responsible for the creation of outfit like Al Qaeda and ISIL, who are responsible for all the destruction in Iraq and Syria.
Regarding the Saudi security personal, well you can not blame them for their ugly behavior. In a country, where a old rich Saudi can have four wives plus concubines, not many women are left for the young bachelor. Well this shortage of eligible women leave the poor bachelor no choice but to indulge in this unholy acts.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:24pm
Pakistan must get seriously get involved with Turkey to bring peace and get Iran to withdraw Houthis from Aden back to sana. Then a round table negotiated settlement must ensue. With SA and Iran.It must also say what it is doing and has done. It should behave as a regional power it is. Don't slink back into the ' making money mode', Pakistan needs leadership. Appoint a high level personality like shibzada YAqoob Khan, ex foreign minister, as minister for foreign affairs and let him do the facilitating. Act not react.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:35pm
@Kabeer
Nothing to do with Pakistan or with Turkey. It is Saudi police issue they behave in many questionable manner all the time.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:51pm
why punish the pilgrim passengers ?
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Apr 14, 2015 02:56pm
@kuriouskat I don't think suspending Umarah flights is a justified reaction from Iran.
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Apr 14, 2015 02:56pm
@SAQ and why is that? It sounds logical to me.
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Apr 14, 2015 03:14pm
@Moosa Since Iran has a very large population, I think the rationale behind the decision is to hit Saudi economically, since people who come for Umrah (or even Hajj), bring in a lot of revenue for Saudi
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Apr 14, 2015 03:36pm
Pakistan decision is good....
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Apr 14, 2015 04:04pm
@SAQ Why ?
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Apr 14, 2015 04:19pm
Good move
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Apr 14, 2015 04:34pm
"Jannati said the Saudi authorities had arrested the perpetrators and promised to punish them, ISNA reported."
What is the justification for the suspension of Umrah flights and demonstrations against Saudi Arabia? Iran should stop these tactics. Their frustration is clearly related to the Yemen Issue where Iran denies to be arming and helping Hooties but the whole world knows what Iran is doing.
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Apr 14, 2015 04:36pm
@Honey Badger are you serious?
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Apr 14, 2015 04:54pm
@haris It makes sense. Hit where it matters the most i.e at your pocket. KSA earns a lot through these pilgrimages and when the traffic will slow down, naturally their earnings will also go down which will hit their economy. The world does not revolve around religion, it's the money that makes the mare go. Religion is for your own self, money is to survive in the world otherwise people will manipulate you in their own interest by lending you the money. Like KSA is doing to us by twisting our arms to join the war, without giving a thought that it's not in our interest.
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Apr 14, 2015 05:02pm
If the culprits are arrested then there is no need to suspend flight. Prudency demands that political temperatures be lowered and no need to heighten the tensions.
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Apr 14, 2015 05:33pm
That's what you get when you try to paint your war in religious colours. Seems like Iran's playing along.
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Apr 14, 2015 05:49pm
it is called making a mountain out of a molehill.its a blessing in disguise for s.Arabia
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Apr 14, 2015 06:07pm
@apoorva
you heard right my friend
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Apr 14, 2015 06:29pm
In one Haj season, the Saudi government earns approximately six billion dollars. If you add the earnings of Saudia airlines, local transporters, hotels, food vendors, etc, the total earnings would reach about eight billion dollars which is more that Pakistan's six month budget. And despite so much earnings, there is no decent transport system between Makkah, Medinah, between Makkah, Arafat, Mina, etc. The living conditions, tents, bathrooms in Mina are pathetic and prone to wide spread of diseases.
And remember millions of poor people in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Maldives, etc save money all their life to be able to perform one obligatory Haj. And their hard earned money is used by Arab rulers for their lavish life styles.
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Apr 14, 2015 06:35pm
Pathetic situation. One thing is for sure that Iran does not raise issues without any reason. I think commentators in favour of Saudis have forgotten the way Saudi General at Karachi airport was behaving with our airport security officers and then he also got punches and kicks for his rude attitude.
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Apr 14, 2015 06:37pm
@Moosa Haj and Umrah in Saudi Arabia?
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Apr 14, 2015 06:44pm
Centuries old conflict continues.
Howany more lives to be lost before we realize that the message was that of peace not war.
Both sides equally responsible.
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Apr 14, 2015 06:50pm
@Abid Saleem I think Iranians are one of the most talented and smartest people in the Muslim world.
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Apr 14, 2015 06:53pm
@apoorva and Bangladeshis and Afghanis too, especially the labor class. Only citizens of powerful countries are treated well. This is my personal observation after spending several years in that country.
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Apr 14, 2015 07:09pm
This matter needs prompt attention. One that this act is totally punishable by death and the other two muslim countries are at odd. Saudi Arabia cannot be held responsible as long the right criminals are punished according to the Islamic codes. Bad apples are everywhere. This brings to me a very important point - if rulers are honest and believes the same punishement even for their family members will set a good example.
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Apr 14, 2015 07:09pm
@Moosa Because by continuing to go there the Ummah are 'supporting' the rulers of the kingdom. WHY is it even called a 'kingdom'? The holy sites MUST be under the control of a coalition of Muslim countries: start at the top Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, Iran, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc.
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Apr 14, 2015 07:12pm
@Adil Haider
If I was Iran I would not interfere in any ones business and focus on sanctions to be lifted at this point!
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Apr 14, 2015 07:26pm
Shame on both these Countries. Each and everything is blamed always on Israel, when these Countries are the culprits. Instead of blaming others, time for you guys to look inward. Correct yourself and no ill will happen to you.
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Apr 14, 2015 07:29pm
@M This won't happen as Saudis will loose $13 billion which they earn from pilgrims especially with oil revenues going down
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Apr 14, 2015 07:43pm
Holy places of Islam should be given the same status as Vatican. Conditions for pilgrims should be improved and it should be administered by an Islamic Trust of Muslim Countries around the World. There is enough money to finance the administration. You can not expect House of Saud to do anything better than what they are doing.
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Apr 14, 2015 07:46pm
I went to Hajj 2 years ago via Pakistan and Saudi officials were insulting till they realized I am an American.
This shouldn't be that way and they should spend money in training the police and service personnel at least some basic English.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:02pm
@Naseer Saudia earns over $400 billion every year by selling oil. They can do without the money earned from Iranian Hajis. The facilities for Hajis in Mecca and Medina are very bad.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:17pm
@Abid Saleem it is strange how people like you create unnecessary doubts in the mind of the public. It is not at all a lie. I think you haven't visited Saudi. Just go and see how they treat the poor working class people at the immigration.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:19pm
@dak this is to make sure that such an act is not repeated with their people in the future. Performing umrah is not obligatory ...respect is more important.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:20pm
The arrogance of Saudis particularly towards non Arabs is notorius.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:20pm
@Einstein Babar not at all.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:26pm
@Kashif who is punishing the pilgrims??? They are worried about their safety.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:28pm
@M. Siddique u guys don't read the news properly...
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Apr 14, 2015 08:31pm
@M : Know the facts. Vatican is run by a Government and Vatican has no foreign member in civilian Administration.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:32pm
@Zack Khan the safety of their people is far important. May the Almighty punish all the wrong doers.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:40pm
All Muslim countries should temporarily suspend these flights to break their egos. Hajj & Umrah travellers provide Saudis second largest source of revenue after oil and this is what they get in return on top of inhuman treatment.
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Apr 14, 2015 08:44pm
@M beautiflly true..
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Apr 14, 2015 08:46pm
Individuals spoiling the name of Saudia.Usually these are people employed from other countries like Yemen,Egypt,Iraq,Lebanon e.t.c
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Apr 14, 2015 09:04pm
Pakistan must immediately fly in replacement pilgrims.
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Apr 14, 2015 09:06pm
@Adnan Yousaf
It is a matter of what is Right and Ethical , it does not matter if it is a Muslim or Non Muslim country. The behavior of Saudi officials were Ethically Wrong and anything that is Ethically Wrong MUST be condemn by all humans, doesn't matter what religious beliefs the person may have or what country of the world may that person belongs to.
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Apr 14, 2015 09:29pm
@Sunil
OIC = ? UN - not interested in this case.
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Apr 14, 2015 09:40pm
@Akil Akhtar
your remarks are generalized. Actions of some people should not black paint everyone.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:01pm
SA sees the pilgrimage as business and leased out land to foreign investors and hotel after demolishing historical neighborhood. While we so naive and ignorant that we treat them royalties, place on a pedestal and consider them flag carrier of Islam.
Heights of ignorance!
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Apr 14, 2015 10:07pm
Down with Saudi Arabia!
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Apr 14, 2015 10:20pm
There is a saying : "He who owns the gold makes the rules". The Saudis have a lot of oil and amazing influence in the world. Is it ok if the Saudis say "All Pakistanis need to leave"? Pakistan is in a difficult position.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:43pm
@Aamir Amjad
Saudis don't push you for Haj and Umra. It is upto you to go or not go. You have a choice. I am sure, Iranians are not welcome to SA.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:48pm
@Naseer Have you performed Haj? It is not a joke to provide basic ameneties to millions of people gathered in a small place like Mina. Look at the transport in your own cities where passengers are dumped in vehicles like cattle. Do you know how much it costs to bring millions of gallons of potable water and water for the bath rooms in Mina and Arafat where no ground water is available?
From where you got the statistics about Saudi Government earning billions of Dollars from Haj? Saudi Government has no share in the haj fees paid by Hajis. It all goes to service providers. Do you think that the accommodation, food and other services provided by various private organisation come free of cost?
Better check your info before you comment.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:49pm
@Dabangg
But their move to stop flights for minor incident is not smart one.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:00pm
@Ahmer Arogance of Saudis is a big question mark for every visitor.
I had to confront a Saudi group which was having a human barricade around their female folk during Haj. One of them quevered at me for "touching the Saudi men while having Twaf and started to utter some thing in his mother tongue. When Instarted in English my group mates asked me to be cool as it was HAJ when we should not have any querels.
It is a fact Arabs, specially the Saudis and Gulf Arabs do not consider th other Muslims at par with them and look down at them with hateful eyes.
Our gov should have had snubed the UAE Minister for his unwanted reaction and strong worded protest should have had been lodged with the UAE Gov by summoning their Ambassador to Foreing Office so that they could read what is in store for them.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:10pm
I hope Muslims around the world recognize that Arabs ( rulers) are in management of religion to make money and control the people around the world. Islam should be considered separate from Arabs and universal.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:16pm
@M Agreed.
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Apr 14, 2015 11:29pm
[Jannati said the Saudi authorities had arrested the perpetrators and promised to punish them]
The perpetrators have already been arrested, why all this noise?? Seems like quick response from Saudi's.
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Apr 15, 2015 12:26am
These allegations do not pass the basis tests of logic.
"The teenage boys alleged last week that the officers abused them while conducting a security search at Jeddah airport."
What kind of sexual abuse can be done at the airport with thousands of people around? This is totally flawed.
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Apr 15, 2015 12:27am
@M Please get your self united first. This will create another war amongst yourselves. The Vatican is for the roman Catholics and the church of England belongs to the Protestants. With you'll having two major branches like Shia and Sunni who will be the Imam of Mekka and Medina. But the beauty over here is the doors of the Vatican and the Church of England is open for everyone be it a muslim hindhu jew budhist atheist or whoever. The big question here is can you'll afford it.
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Apr 15, 2015 12:45am
@dak It is the not the question of 1 or 2 persons, it is call self respect. Iran govt knows self respect.
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Apr 15, 2015 01:54am
@Zak Your comment, I think is irrelevant to the topic under discussion. Please read the article again.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:38am
Unnecessary move by iran and unnecessary harsh comments. Personally i do know sheikhs are arrogant. But even though its a serious crime , it should be dealt as one -- a serious crime --- especially when culprits are arrested already.
My pakistani brothers -- we have terrorists who are facing charges of killing innocents in india -- and we let them free / even protect them. We ! Of all the people have no right to criticize SA in this matter especially ehen they have already arrested the criminals
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Apr 15, 2015 03:38am
I agree that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country, but are Saudis? Just vist and find how they treat you!
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Apr 15, 2015 03:44am
@Zeezoo Very true, this is a fact which created a lot problems and people from Iran were banned KSA.
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Apr 15, 2015 04:00am
@Sunil
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Apr 15, 2015 04:20am
Perfect example of Religion dividing people. Use your conscious and Once you put religion aside.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:03am
@Honey Badger Just like the story of sexual abuse of children in Peshawar?
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Apr 15, 2015 05:32am
@Saqlain , the beheaded Pakistanis were all criminals, mostly carries of drugs into the kingdom which is banned by law and is punishable by death.
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Apr 15, 2015 06:11am
I am fully agree with you.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:11pm
@IMRAN MUHAMMAD Saudia Arab Govt is already mean & bad!!!!!....
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Apr 15, 2015 02:29pm
@SAQ How can you advise anyone to not express his opinion? His suggestion makes eminent sense anyway, considering the contempt in which the Saudis seem to hold most other Muslim nations. And if the Saudis need to involve 10 other nations to just face a puny state like Yemen, what will happen if their adversary is a powerful state like, say, Israel?
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Apr 15, 2015 02:50pm
@dak You probably have no sense of self respect, that's why you just cannot understand the Iranian response to this shameful incident. There is nothing 'urgent' about umra. It can be performed any time. It is high time Muslims the world over gave a thought to turning the Holy Places over to a joint consortium of Muslim countries to manage so that the poor Muslims going there are protected from the arbitrary and high handed treatment at the hands of its current arrogant managers!
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Apr 15, 2015 03:00pm
@apoorva That's true. Haj has always been a source of income for them. When they had no oil, they subsisted on dates and Haj. Now that they have too much money from oil, their arrogance has correspondingly increased. But income from ;Haj cannot be underestimated either. They have no empathy with the poor Hajis most of whom spend their lifetime savings on this religious obligation, and also face maltreatment at the hands of Saudi managers. Some solution ought to be found for this.
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Apr 16, 2015 05:21am
The worlds gone mad, over here in UK, news is NATO and Russia have over 2000 nukes aimed at each other in a standoff. Live everyday at a time because i fear the end maybe near.
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Apr 16, 2015 07:34am
@Moosa: How else are people to protest? Stopping the travel costs KSA MONEY, and that protest has voice internationally.
These boys went to pray, and they were assaultesd sexually. How much worse can it get?
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Apr 16, 2015 07:41am
@SAQ : You love just your own opinions, don't you?
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Apr 16, 2015 07:43am
@Honey Badger: Why are you sure. Give some proof!
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Apr 16, 2015 07:53am
@Ajnabi : As I always say: It is ultimately economic(s). And Money Talks!
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Apr 16, 2015 07:56am
@Qwells: I don't think KSA 'let it happen'. There are individuals and groups interested in this activity. KSA will be embarrassed by the incident and lose revenues!
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Apr 16, 2015 07:57am
@Einstein Babar : Give the world your evidence!
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Apr 16, 2015 08:23am
@Kashif: That is NO punishment. They get to save money and get on with life or go elsewhere in the world!
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Apr 16, 2015 10:47am
Iranian might be treated better, other quiter nations may expect anything frm the wild of OPEC, not treating humans as humans and then expect other nations to support their offences in other par tof the world.
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Apr 16, 2015 07:45pm
It is not a news at all. Saudis routinely molest and rape, especially the females visitors and foreign workers in their country. If anybody complains she is detained for prostitution and flogged.
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Apr 16, 2015 09:04pm
I am glad Iran has highlighted a disgusting practice being followed by Saudis. South Asians are their favourite targets but they are too ashamed and afraid to raise it. Saudis have no respect even for the sanctity of two Holy Mosques.
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Apr 17, 2015 12:24am
@SAQ I do not see any thing wrong with M's comment. On the contrary, it is not just worth considering, it is worth implementing. It will teach the Saudi rulers a lesson well needed.
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