Trust deficit? Where is the Trust? With people being killed or beheaded on both sides what Trust the Maj. Gen. is talking about, what a delusion?

Reallyyy ???

one quick question .. do the Pakistan Rangers send lower order naiks and lance naiks to flag meetings??

For flag meetings such junior officers are not send. Difficult to say what is the truth.

@Bharat It was a post level contact for your information.

@Rationalist Was post level meeting and not flag meeting. Please read the General's briefing before your post.

After 15 years Musharaff justifies kargil which Pakistan denied in 1999. He even crossed LOC which he announced so proudly. Obviously there can be no trust between sides. Some self retrospection will help rather than blaming other side

@Bharat it's not unheard of, it's usually done foe minor problems that don't require high level military officers.

Pakistan must do the same, period.

Jinnah created Pakistan, because of the trust deficit, from Hindu India, day one.

its very bad at new year these sort of incident took place.

All kinds of treachery must stop. Time has changed. Period. Otherwise unthinkable will happen.

@Sunil - Correction. Not Hindu India, but Hindu majority India.

While we trust the General's statement but then how did the Indian soldier die?

@nirvana Never, the flag meeting happens atleast at company commander level

@Ahmer He made suicide. Pakistan is trust worthy. Osama Bin Laden never lived in Pakistan. So we can't blame it.

What is this word "working boundary"? In India, we know LOC and International Border. Only in Pakistan press, they talk of working boundary. Will someone explain what it means?

@Akbaruddin Threats and more threats of unthinkable. Good way to resolve issues.

@Akbaruddin Fully agree with your comment. It is time for drastic action as our neighbour refuses to learn any lesson but always remains in denial.

look who's talking... you killed our one in response we killed your tow .... now time has gone for taking India for granted..

This story is so believable.

@Bharat: What difference does it make even if they were of lower rank? Do you mean it was fine to kill them because they were of lower rank. What about if the same would have been done by the Pak Rangers and then what would have been your reaction?

@Ahmer : Indian soldier was not called for meeting and killed.

Rangers are unscrupulous and are whingeing. Junior soldiers like Lance Officers are never sent for flag meeting. The flag meetings are always between commanders or captains. Total hogwash being bought by Pakistani public.

@Lucky Star The article says flag level meeting (not post level)

We want our united subcontinent back. We dont need these borders and these armies, where brothers are killing brothers. We neither need this hatred, nor need sermons. We dont need these fake countries called Pakistan and India. We want our Hind, our barre-sagheer. Just give us our shared home, our united subcontinent back. And we shall make it richest and best civilization in all world, as it was in the past.

The fact is India has stopped trusting Pakistan anymore and Modi is dealing the situation with the ground realities and situation. Better both countries pay attention to maintaining their borders peaceful.

@karthik so did india so proudly announce siachen in 80s and dhaka in 70s. There is mistrust on both sides, India is not so much of a big brother people on that side think it is....

@nirvana it is not the question of low level naiks or high level brigadiers neither it is question of who is right or wrong as citizens of both the sides are fed what is convenient to the rules. The fundamental question is people from both the sides are loosing their lives besides collateral damage. We must under stand the dubious games power centres play.---- If there is no problem create the one to remain relevant and justify the unequal share of power and resources Generals get. What if borders are silent, army may go out of relevance . It is well throughout game plan keep the guns booming so that the hegemony and one sided power structure is maintained.

India initiated bus diplomacy & result was Kargil & parliament attack. When India engaged in ministerial level dialogue, and while minister Qureshi was in India 26/11 happend. Pakistan promised that its soil will not be used to destabilize India but it happening other way. So what "trust" are you talking about.

Was there any trust before?

He is 100 percent right.

@Rajendra I really feel sad and sorry for this statement

As always, we'll never know what the truth is. On the Indian side, we were told that the BSF was asked to respond with double the force. And BSF has vehemently denied calling any flag meeting. However, this is the first time that the rangers have given this reason. Must be some truth to it. Hope it is just a misunderstanding. Otherwise it will become very difficult to resolve issues. Lets also not forget that this flareup was caused by the Pakistani rangers / militants shooting on a BSF patrol team, killing one and injuring another the day before. Stop the infiltration/unnecessary firing and we'll also stop!

@karthik Kargil was totally different episode, there was confusion in demarcation of LOC on ground and in itself was dispute.

@Last Word Yes. Actually they are doing same thing over and over again and expecting different result. They have failed to understand that game is lost and over now. Previously India had weak leadership and it was punching below it's weight in every sphere. It was like a peaceful giant who never knew it's real strength. Now giant has woken up and while it has no territorial ambitions, it will not tolerate any mischief. Not anymore at whatever cost.

When there is serious conflict in border, there is a hotline between the higher officials. What is their action and conversations. It is already known and announced by Indian side, if there is firing from Pakistani side there will be a serious response. If there is dispute, start talking at higher official level is important, otherwise both side innocent soldiers are murdered for the ego.

@Sohail Khan disagree. There was no confusion, Musharaff crossed it deliberately knowing the boundary and invaded the country when Vajpayee and NS were busy making peace deals.

@Bharat when they cooked up the story they forgot this issue.

You have sophisticated guns.. you have Jawans and hate filled minds on both sides of the border...what one can expect...

@karthik Totally agree, it's guys like Gen Musharraf who create the trust deficit!

@Sohail Khan Ha ha ha. Confusion gone now? At least be sensible while you present your feeble excuses.

yea.. both armies do that.. all armies do that.. everything is fair in love n war they say..

@Sohail Khan Is it..?? if so why did Pakistan withdraw later..They should have made all EFFORTS to stay at Kargil..

@Akbaruddin do not talk like a child. when Shaikh Chilli become 1st time Police Man he though he will arrest every one (-:

@Ajay vikram Singh You are joking right? Why do you think they formed Pakistan in the first place. To get away!!! You should give them the space. NO WAY!!! A 1.2 billion Indians and 300 million (or whatever is the current population) of Pakistanis will rise up and prevent you from doing this.

The DG has not talked about killing of one BSF soldier which started the firing from Indian side. It has to be resolved bilaterally and no other way.

@AA What have you done build trust?

By reading comments, I am astonished that how much we human become inhuman.Nobody is talking about poor soldiers and their family who were killed on both the side. Stop this madness. People of both the country should press their leaders to stop hysteria of tit for tat tactics. Nobody is gaining but everybody is loosing the precious lives.

@Raj Patel Dear Mr. Raj Patel, we are proud of Indians and Hindus like you who have expressed their rejection and condemnation of inter border mayhem and hostility and their grief on the loss of precious human lives both sides. Majority of Pakistanis and Indians are deeply and equally hurt on the loss of single human life either side of the border. In the eyes of God and humanity every single human life of any faith, race or region is equally precious. It is so heart breaking to see that some people have turned to be blood thirsty of their fellow humans worst than beasts of jungle. The forces of human carnage, hostility and hatred have remained so powerful since long before that great Jesus Christ was crucified by his own religious people for his unconditional love for all mankind, Mahatma Gandhi was killed by his own HIndus, the then Israel Prime Minister Izhak Rabin was shot dead by his own Jews and the then Egyptian President Anwar Sadaat was assasinated by his own fellow Muslim for their peace initiative. There are hundreds and thousands of such examples in the annals of history.

@Sunil - Absolutely and this is why we should NEVER trust India.

@karthik Kargil is within an internationally recognized disputed territory, not part of India. This happened on international border. Indians do like to twist the facts.