These men with big egos and short temper need to be punished, and made an example to avoid future incidents.

A classic example of violence against women in a lawless state where men take women as their private property ! Justice must be served and this man must be punished in the same manner for others to learn a lesson- and to get to the root cause of the problem, we need a major mind set change ! Our men need to be taught since childhood that women are humans and not commodoties - our women including sisters and mothers need to play this instrumental role.

women are always blamed but men are the real problem in pakistani society. ironically, i don't see this happening in the west. some serious steps are needed to control this problem including education.

It is surprising that this happen too often in Pakistan this is heart breaking to read this.

Family of the murdered has no right to pardon the killer. This was a crime against state and having failed the poor girl, should be the prosecutor and take this case to quick and just conclusion. Oh, I was just dreaming as the case happens to be in Pakistan

RIP. Let's hope the heart-stoned criminal will get exemplary punishment by the court of law.

Caveman mentality.

It seems that a significant percentage of South Asian males have not grown up, and are not likely to.

Sir

This is no different than a terrorist attack!!!

Thanks

Very sad, may the departed soul rest in peace.

Send him to Military-Antiterrosim court for Swift and Quick Justice.

I hope this time, justice is not delayed since everything can been seen clearly.

Look at the quality of Handcuffs. A strong man can easily break and runoff. Corruption-ridden police and administration.

So sad for the poor girl. She was just 19. He should be condemned and executed swiftly without the usual court drama.

He should be given an exemplary punishment

This happen only in Pakistan

Why do men here think that any girl they fancy should accept them? Arent girls supposed to have any say in the matter?

These men find it so hard to accept rejections. Need to do something about their huge bloated egos.

@The Artist
these are not men...these are not humans...these are wild beast and there are plenty to be found in Pakistan!!

When will men stop treating women like mindless property that they can have when they choose to. They need to understand that women have a right to choose too. This needs to be taught from school itself.

A very sad & tragic reading providing an ugly and indigestible glimpse of social system in vogue, mistreating our women & even punishing them with the ultimate when they assert their rights of choosing or refusing selection of their life partners. This is revolting to see the shameful video & I, for one, condemn the apathy and indifference of those watching this happen, also listening to the life threatening uttering of the alleged killer, but not reporting to police or providing her any escort which could have saved her life. I feel extremely saddened to visualize pain and egony of this girl’s poor parents who have to undergo this extremely torturous & untimely death of their 18 years old daughter, a bread winner for the poor family. One is reminded of similar happenings elsewhere in the country where hundreds of women are killed for marrying someone of their choice,or physically & mentally deformed with acid attacks for refusing.This medivial social evil must be eradicated forthwith

These bus companies should stop employing young girls if they can not protect the girls' lives. A mere 19 year old she was. Ban these buses. The hungry maniac man was a so-called guard. These bus companies dont even check if they are employing sane or insane men as guards and then hand them guns & pistols. Ban these bus companies. Our girls are not toys!

Now mullahs will be active to force victims girls family to get blood money and pardon the criminal. It is sickening system of blood money and pardons. Must be banned completely and in entirety.

Judging by the recent trend going on in the courts the Judge will force the victim's family to pardon this murderer as far worse things happen in this country?

He should be punished.....

Girls must protect themselves from this harsh behavior. This is the norm of our South Asian subcontinent culture, where men can be rude and disrespectful to girls and still get away with. We have these cases every day of insult, disrespect and treatment of us girls, which make us feel like a second class citizen of India. RIP sister.

This incidence tells us the hat our justice system is useless. Ordinary people cannot see help when they need it badly. Women feel more insure calling police for help.

@The Artist “..men with big egos..” the population is reflective of the politicians they elect!! Majority of our politicians elected by the uneducated are full of hot air and false egos. The end result is more illiteracy, hunger and killing!!

Very very sad that women are objectified in South Asia.

Narrow minded people, who are living the dark ages have no respect for law or human life.

@Humaira Jahanzeb lol @ unwanted feminism. It was a murder in a fit of rage and rejection. What has this to do anything with being women being property of anyone?

It's sad and our thoughts and prayers are with the departed, and may swift justice be served!

I am sorry but this just takes me to IK's callous remark on feminism. Sir this is what feminists are talking about, women being treated as objects. This is a big problem plz do not belittle it.

Brave girl. Laws must be made so females are protected to freely work outside and be independent without facing this kind of harassment.

This is the result of sexual frustration in men in Pakistan. Availability of porn on internet is also a major factor in occurrence of these types of crimes. People are saying these things don’t happen in West, yes it is correct. The society there is open to premarital consensual sex, and sex is not considered as a thing you would risk your life for.

Men can't tolerate rejection. If the girl doesn't like you, leave her alone.

@Humaira Jahanzeb.I agree with you that women in Pakistan are not being treated fairly and equally. I wish she could have done something different to protect herself or contact her family members.She could have contacted the police and file for harrasment. There should have been police assigned on the bus terminal. The killer should be given exemplary punishment so others will think twice before contemplating such crime. It's unfortunate that a beautiful human being has lost her life. The video shown on the media indicates that other people present in the bus did not take any action against the attacker when he attacked the bus hostess. The result would have been different if the attacker was apprehenderd by the people and taken to the police.

What is wrong with Punjab??

This savage murderer of the innocent helpless bus hostess must be given an exemplary punishment by the court of law. Justice delayed is justiice denied.

An examplery punishment should be awarded

@Humaira Jahanzeb ...Please don't judge all men because of this two legged animal men like him should be punished without mercy.!!

State is switched off or in stand by mode?

In an Islamic country this is sheer cruelty and brutality against a woman. The poor girl was honest in her views and the murder must be given severe punishment the way he committed the crime.

The man was forcing her to commit adultery, it was not marriage proposal.

Unbelievable and sickening, he should have been reported and arrested immediately after the incident, lawlessness at peak

Why would a pretty (and I am sure smart as well) girl like her marry a guy who is not her match. The guy simply does not get that, because he is taught to treat women as a commodity, and an inferior breed. Why is this kind of harassment tolerated by the community, and community elders? Why can't the community leaders help in eradicating such nuisance?

The incidents of harassing, molesting and torturing women to death have increased in Pakistan since last two years. We urgently need two or three exemplary punishments to culprits of such heinous crimes against weaker sex.

Well, In our society, boys are trained from childhood that they are the "GUARDIANS" over women and a woman needs male consent for every decision she makes about her life. When some women rebel and take control of their life, it is generally not acceptable. Some men will go to extreme and even kill such "rebellious" women

Speechless

Until some exemplary and swift punishments are not given to the culprits, women will continue to be the victims of senseless killings and torture. It infuriates me. Sickening!!! Society and the government needs to stand up and deliver.

Pakistan urgently need to include psychology classes in schools and colleges. This is the only way to prevent future events like this.

It breaks my heart to see the picture of this innocent girl who was going about doing her job and being the bread winner of her family.Who did this guard think he was Dilip Kumar?Now get ready to be hanged for taking the poor girl's life.

He should be hanged until death. And his family should be reprimanded for instilling the detestable patriarchal sense in this man.

Need to bring awareness to women that they should report any harassment immediately. Police must be required to contact the harasser within 24 hours. What a shame.

That is the mindset of many in Northen India and Pakistan. Getting Worse as more North you go. IE, I must have what I want regardless of right or wrong. In case of Pakistan, it also shows in National policy.

CJP should be take the notice and all men of that company should check up of psychiatry illness.

She must not have gone out with out some male close relative. It is against sharia. She paid the price for going against the shariah

@Humaira Jahanzeb
I agree with you 100%. Men in our society do need to look at women as human being not their personal commodity. Men also need to understand when a woman says no she means no.

I hope they give him punishment to the fullest extent of the law.

Only 4 days remand for murder ? Really ?

Lawless justice Lawless state.

@murli I am afraid these kind of tragic incidents and murders happen all over the world including the West. Domestic violence and violence everywhere against women is a challenge. There should be severe punishments and also education of the youth, both of girls and boys, to respect each other.

Could she not have reported his advances and pressure to the employer? Or if the employer knew this, it should also be held accountable. The law must be applied in this case of admitted murder. RIP

@murli In India is 100 times worse, unfortunately we have a few mentally unbalanced like Umer Daraz who should be shut away in a Daraz for ever.

Give speedy justice, massive compensation from him to girls family and he should get ultimate punishment quickly. Anyway she seemed too good for this sicko.

CJP kindly take action. The man dont deserve mercy or qisas. He must be pumished.

The state must give such exemplary punishment that others know there will be no escape for those who commit such heinous acts.

Need speedy Justice man she was earning for her family as bus hostess!

Sad!

@murli Actually you are totally wrong, it happens alot in lots of Western counties but the murderers are punished as per full extend of law. Which cave you have been living in?

@murli It's happened everywhere in the world. More responsibility lies on family and friends who can easily bring sense to a person simple by talking. Majority of time family member mainly mother and sister take side of culprits and make other person responsible

The law should be "You'll see what I would do when you get to the court." These men deserve no other treatment but gallows.

Response of Pakistani men to rejection is with a gun

In the end he will pay a blood money and he will be released.

Probably nothing will happen this man's family will threaten the girl's family and the killer will be "pardoned" under fear by girls family, justice system is weak same story over and over just new day...stone age laws and thinking while rest of the world has moved on!

As per Sharia law she should not have rejected the marriage proposal.If a Muslim man proposes,Muslim should accept.This is recommended in Islam.

@Humaira Jahanzeb

In a lawless society, he would have gotten away with it, but in a land with rule of law, he got captured and is being prosecuted according to the law of the land.

The incident in the bus and the murder at the terminal shown in the video link sends a chilling message on how easy it is to take an innocent life. The poor girl had no self defense. He availed the opportunity when she was by herself. It very important that girls and women not be by themselves in isolated situations until the law and order improves.

Yet another shameful attack on a woman by chauvinistic and criminal minded men with a 'mullah mentality' who see women only as chattels . I'm sure Imran Khan must be very impressed by this Umar Daraz killer, maybe he can offer him a PTI ticket.

@GBian "Let's hope the heart-stoned criminal" I agree with your heartfelt comment, but with respect you need to use "stone-hearted". One could get heartily-stoned and pull off a crime of passion, but here its invariably a hurt ego that can only be calmed with a fatal retribution. Living well is never the best revenge here, in our beloved land of the purest.

I am a christian white man from austria and my wife is a muslim pakistani.

It shocks me to see the way many man in pakistan treating woman.

Most of the time the violence against women, has to do with a wrong idea of honour.

Even the so called liberal pakistani man, has to change there views because they are not that liberal like they want to show us.

That poor little girl who is driving around to earn a few rupees, just wanted to have peace in there life.

She didnt want to hurt that men.

She just dont want to marry him, and that is her right.

But that security guard felt hurt in his so called "honour".

Pakistani man has here in the west a very bad reputation, especially because of the way they treat women.

Many of the pakistani girls, who are here as exchange students, fall in love with an austrian man.

They have sex and just enjoy the life here. And would even like to marry there non muslim partner.

In pakistan nowbody knows about there relationships. They have to hide it and feel a lot of pressure.

Just let them live their lives. And change you concept of honour.

@Iftikhar Husain This happens everywhere. Kindly stop blaming Pakistan for this. In America more than 1000 Women are attacked yearly with respect to the crimes of passion.

The government must take a very firm stand and give maximum publicity to hanging relating to this murder. Men just can not kill women at their will - steps must be taken to stop this barbaric attitude. Trial should be swift - justice delayed is justice denied.

@pre-Boomer Marine brat you are absolutely right.

@Humaira Jahanzeb i fully agree with you, young and talented pakistanis are trying to establish their identity as society friendly person but their efforts are going in vein because of those uneducated, misguided and mostly following sermons of ultra religious preachers like khadim rizwi, masood azhar and 100s more. These preachers clearly teach only hate hate and hate, they teach them that a man is superior to woman so the man has right to punish a woman

Frustrated society with people taking law in their hands. If the punishment is as quick as Saudi law then we see lesser crimes. Law process is surely premature here. Sorry for the girl's family.

No wonder she didn't like him! She knew something was wrong with him, and did not want a man who would dominate her. She could sense that in him for sure.

Salute to the brave girl who was struggling to support her family in the midst of all societal odds.

Hope CJP will make sure that the killer is punished in ATC or military courts quickly, though I am pessimistic about his ability to get this done.

This sad incident reminds me of an opportunity I had, a decade ago, to teach MBAs at a leading university in Pakistan about sexual harassment at workplace (against men and women). In my class, female students said that their 'Law' professor engaged in acts of (sexual) harassment. And interestingly, that leading business school had NO policy on (sexual) harassment. This example of mine and the sad incident in Faisalabad clearly show how myopic organizations and institutions are when it comes workplace policies. Everyone focuses on money and customer service with no regard to safety of employees. Hope this guy gets exemplary punishment. And as for that business school's law teacher, he ended up contesting elections in 2014. Do you see the state of affairs in Pakistan?

Champions and land of pure!

Very Sad. The killer forgot the conseqeunces of murder. Now he has to rot behind bars forever!

When a woman refuses a man's advances, she has every right to. The man needs to keep his ego in check. She has a right to choose her partner who she thinks is the right one for her just like any man. Additionally, as a society we need to start valuing human lives. Can you imagine what he would have done to her after marriage had she accepted his proposal?

What does you expect in a country where a man slashes a woman 23 times in broad day light on a busy street is set free by a superior court? What signal does that send to the society as a whole? Ironically, in that case too the victim refused marriage proposal! It seems in Pakistan, refusing marriage proposal of a man warrants violent consequence for women!

What a shame! What's wrong with these people? Can't take 'no' for an answer? At least he is arrested. If I don't have you, no body else will either?

It is the mindset which needs to change. Our boys see and told from childhood that:

1: Men are "INCHARGE/GUARDIAN" over women. 2: Women are supposed to be dependent on them. 3: And most importantly, women need to take consent from men for ANY decision they make about their life (even for stepping out of the hosue)

When some courageous women rebel and take control of their life, it is generally NOT acceptable. And some men (that includes their father, brother, boy friend, aasiq) will go to extreme and even kill such "rebellious" women.

These are mentally sick and retarded men. They won't treat women any better even if their forced marriage proposal is accepted, let alone nonacceptance. This sick murderer probably represents many others that exist in this society. Jahil mentality- with self-proclaimed and loser sense of authority.

Bismillah Have u ever heard woman killing a man to marry her. Still pakistani men consider woman bad for even very small mistakes.and consider man with 100 mistakes good.

I am surprised that guard was slapping that bus hostess in front of passengers and impotent passengers didn't do anything...

It's so sad that there was no security or anyone to help her.

This monster should be tried for terrorism and manslaughter.

What thuggish company this poor soul was working for?? Y have the travelling company officials not come to rescue of the girl given her helplessness condition after the driver of that very bus had witnessed the brawl between the two so then y he did not accompanied her. Had he informed the persons concerned, she would certainly not butchered by the guard with such impunity

This seems to happen lot more in Pakistan than any other Asian country. Why? Education level? religion? Position of male in the society? Why? and when will this stop?

Unfortunately our justice system is inefficient to bring such evil people to justice. Have not heard of any of these culprits taken to gallows soon enough while every other day there is a news of yet another murder yet another daughter killed. Such cases must be heard on a fast track, fulfilling all legal defense requirements but moving fast.

The video is shocking - what a tragedy. He should be punished severely for this crime.

Most important ,the people of that company did nothing to prevent this tragedy. According to news ,the company where she work,knew the problem but didn't do anything for her security. They should also be taken into police investigation and prosecuted in order to prevent such events in future.

I don't have words to explain how I am feeling.

This is meant to be a muslim country. Are these the actions of muslims? Is this what you pakistan stand for? Where women & children are not respected & voilated. The west wold has better moral principal than pakistani. Make some very good exemplary justice for some of these cases, quick thru the courts. These sick individuals know that for law to prevail it will take a long time, and there may be a chance to get away with it if the victims are poor. JUST DISGUSTING. WHEN WILL PAKISTANIS WAKE UP. We are in the 21st century and pakistan has taken steps backwards since independance.

As senseless as it gets. Shame on this man and his family.

all fault of Bollywood movies which only teach you to fall in love and fight your parents for marriage.

this is shocking that society going this path. kindly stop Bollywood features in Pakistan and follow our own traditions rather than copying same stuff from overseas.

@Humaira Jahanzeb No, this is not a classic example of violence against women in a lawless state where men take women as their private property. What you have here is a crime of passion. A not too uncommon occurrence in human history.

Shocking at the audacity and savagery of the crime committed. Such crimes will continue to occur as long as strict punishments and justice is not delivered. The Bus Company must explain its failure to take steps when the killer threatened her on duty in the bus.

In short, most men are rascals especially in South East Asia.

@pre-Boomer Marine brat I agree that south Asian society is male chaunistic and they want women to dance as per their tune! Unfortunately this is also true in west, difference is that here this guy killed only one person, or in some case male throw acid on face of girl. In west guy come with automatic rifle and may kill 10 more in frustration!

The lady lost her life, you are arrested and in police custody to be tried by a competent court of law!

What is your gain, and what have you proved by killing an innocent soul who had just exercised her Moral, Legal and Social Right?

Sad, very sad!

One more woman victim of this talibani mentality. We need to educate our boys to respect woman and their right to choose their partner based on their own choice.

There seems to be not much in the video to reveal the identity of the murderer. Hope the cops have enough evidence to establish the identity of the murderer.

I feel unsafe as working women.

No point of arrest. Girl's family will pardon him as it happens in such cases.

no ifs and buts for this guy, straight to the gallows.

Dawn,thank you for actually highlighting this issue. It is sad to see that the man like these are still out there. 4 day remand , 10 day remand will not do any justice. Innocent soul has departed. We as men should be the protector for the women not this. Its pain full , its extremely sad.

Pitiable is not just this act, but, more so, the failure of passengers to intervene to teach this criminal a lesson on how perpetrators of violence against women will be dealt with. Shame on all the male passengers who lacked the courage to stand against a single bully. It is the saddest thing I have watched in a long time. Bus driver must be fired as well.

continued. Such cases need to be tried as a speedy trial. The accused should be given full opportunity to prove him/herself innocent if in fact is innocent. But if the evidence is reputable, prove beyond doubt. Then he/she should not be able to play with the system. Like the developing countries the judge should set a date for trial giving time to both the defense and prosecutor. Once the date is set then it should not be postponed with one or another reason. It should continue and be finished within the reasonable time.No one should, those involve with the case should go on leave etc until the case is over. Unlike the panama.

Its one of the most gruesome and frustrating murder,why is the Police are seeking FIR.

@Faizal There is nothing in Sharia that says women must accept any / every proposal. To the contrary, there are clauses requiring thefree and wiling consent of both parties. This violent murderer's inability to accept rejection, just proves how right she was to reject such a beast.

People saying she should have reported the harassment should answer these questions. 1. What makes you think she didn't report it to her workplace? 2. You do know what happens when you report a man for harassment right? Haven't we seen enough women attacked for reporting harassment that we still don't know why women barely ever report such incidents?

The fact is to us Pakistanis, only a dead woman is a good woman. If Mahwish was alive and had reported the harassment, everyone would have called her a liar and an attention seeker.

How this criminal was given gun licence how much bribe this criminal paid to corrupt gun licence officer to issue this criminal gun license or this criminal was with gun have no licence as per land law

all this is aftermath of watching Bollywood vulgur movies day and nigh which only teaches one to fall in love.

no money, its ok no job its ok

just look for love.

She had no option but to reject this man’s beauty.

Death sentence is the only justice that can be served.

@murli “... i don't see this happening in the west. .. “ I dont know which ‘west’ you are talking of - the same that actually did not alliw women to vote? Or that treated a wife as husbsnd’s property? Or the one where a woman rejected a man and he came back snd shot dead that woman, plus many other people.

It is a common problem workdwide - except perhaps Scandinavia.

Solution is for mothers [also fathers] to ‘train’ the sons to treat women respectfully. The real problem is the way men treat their wives - and the boys see it, and then repeat the behavior.

@Akash And in india they rape then burn the victim!! Come down to earth by choice before your country crashes and burns. Arrogance is the root of ALL evil.

@Humaira Jahanzeb He should be punished publicly for his heinous act...……..This is the only way to stop others to commit such crime.

Harassing women at work place is a crime.

He should be made an example for others with same instinct, Justice must not only done but seems to be done.

No time should be wasted in sending him to the gallows.

unfortunately some people have time to make videos with cellphones but no one call emergency police shame on all of us

Such unfortunate incidents will continue to happen unless women gain equal rights status and are not treated as commodity or property. Shame on man dominated society.

its all because of watching too much Bollywood trash and then go out look for love.

shocking

Firstly, a woman is not anyone's property.She is a human being and is to be treated with respect. Secondly, are men such as this so hard up for a partner that they have to resort to violence to try and force the woman to love them? And then murder the woman just because she makes it clear that she's nor interested? Self respect and respect for human life and dignity are sadly lacking. There must be no pardon. A human life was taken away, and this is a criminal act. The law should come down hard on murderers such as Umer Daraz. Is the country not able to safeguard the rights of its own citizens?

@Akash - Sorry Akash, but this happens everywhere. Men with big egos are everywhere.

Unfortunately murders based on this form of sick deluded belief of ownership over a woman occurs in western societies as well. The punishment should be appropriate to the crime. I am against the death penalty, but to be fair it seems it would be entirely appropriate in this case. In the UK he would get life with a minimum term of 30 or more because he used a gun. It would be life with minimum term of 25 if he had used a knife. Awful crime on a beautiful woman who had so much to live for. Pakistan must focus on highlighting and eradicating this inhumanity to women in their midst.

@murli Similar things happen in the US, however, they seldom become headlines in any major newspaper. Nor do people blame the entire society for the crime of a few criminals.

@Faizal Excuse me???? Are you in your senses? Have you ever read a book on Shariah or Ahadees? Stop spreading falsehood about our pure religion.

@Mian Mitthu Australian There is no Bollywood romance in this story, Sir.

I pray this time the religious law does not come in between and pardons the guilty.

NO means no dude!!! You don’t understand that?

RIP. I’m afraid her murder might not draw media attention and persistent highlight till the murderer is caught and awarded exemplary punishment due largely to days of electioneering.

Not thing but capital punishment for this animal.

@Humaira Jahanzeb I fully endorse your views. The crux of the problem is that leaving beside 15% of our urban educated class, majority of our men belonging to illiterate and ignorant class do not accept equal rights of our women in society. On top of this, they look down upon working women who in these difficult times, choose to become a bread winner for their poor and miserable families. The only way out of this male chauvinistic attitude is to provide education to these swarming illiterate among us in order to make them aware of the equale rights of our women who are sisters, daughters and mothers too, as per aspiration of the constitution of Pakistan.

Very sad. All over the world some people cannot accept No fro an answer.

He should be given speedy punishment and make it example for others.

Punish the guy so it will be an example for others. Our country has enough issues.

The bus company should lalso be interrogated and punished for not taking action against harassment that had been taking place before the incident took place

Savage.

@Salina I fully agree. The Bus company is fully accountable. It would be desireable to review its hiring practices. When such threats to employees are apparent a policy should be in place to provide safe transport and a legal cover to employees . It is sad to note that nobody cared enough to offer at least verbal support while the accused was threatening her. The security guard instead of guarding the interests of the company used his weapon against the company own employee. Justice should be exemplary and quickly enforced .And the consequences reported by Dawn. Too often the public is deprived of follow up action.