Election tribunal orders re-election in NA-125, PP-155
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LAHORE: An election tribunal on Monday ordered re-election in Lahore's NA-125 and PP-155 constituencies after irregularities on the seats were proven during the 2013 general elections.
The one-page statement released by tribunal said that the ballot bags had been opened with a sharp object and the records had been tampered with.
It added that in the reports submitted by the tribunal’s appointed local commission and Nadra after inspecting the record of the constituency, it was found that on an average each person had cast six votes each.
PML-N leader Khawaja Saad Rafique held a press conference soon after the election tribunal ordered re-election in the NA-125 constituency. He said that the decision to order re-election was against the presiding and residing officers of the constituency and that runner-up candidate Hamid Khan had failed to prove rigging.
He further claimed that only seven polling stations in the said constituency had irregularities.
Hamid Khan's lawyer had also contended that Rafique paid one of the residing officers Rs20 million to rig the elections, to which the PML-N leader responded: "I don't want to start a blame-game but Imran Khan says a lot of lies. So, if Hamid Khan lies once, I shouldn't mind".
Read: Discrepancies found in NA-125 record
Rafique and Mian Naseer Ahmad, both of whom belonged to the Pakistan Muslim League - Nawaz (PML-N), had won the 2013 general elections from Lahore's NA-125 and PP-155 constituencies respectively.
Rafique had secured 123,416 votes whereas his contender Hamid Khan had obtained 84,495 votes from NA-125 constituency.
Meanwhile, Mian Naseer Ahmad had won the PP-155 election with 63,709 votes.
Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf's (PTI) Hamid Khan had challenged Rafique's victory, alleging that the PML-N candidate had rigged the elections, and a large number of bogus votes were cast in his favour.
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He had requested the tribunal to declare the election null and void and announce re-election in the constituency.
The tribunal’s ruling comes months after PTI’s sit-ins in Islamabad over alleged mass scale rigging in the 2013 elections.
NA-125 was among the four controversial constituencies — the other three being NA-110 (Sialkot), NA-122 (Lahore) and NA-154 (Lodhran) — where PTI had demanded for voters’ thumbprint-verification in the hope of finding a solution that might be acceptable to all concerned.
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May 04, 2015 03:23pm
Probably the best news of PTI's struggles so far!
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May 04, 2015 03:23pm
Pti draws first blood.... Let's see how this affects judicial commission hearing in supreme court!
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May 04, 2015 03:23pm
Anybody here want to bet that this minister will be made to win the election again, I cannot understand in which world IK is living, expectations regarding anything coming out free and fair from this system currently prevailing is sheer foolishness. Good luck PTI you badly need it, one person standing alone against odds I have no idea what are the chances of any change.
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May 04, 2015 03:24pm
Now this is interesting, i believe if the judicial commission come to a conclusion that 2013 elections were rigged then its the end of the road for PMLn, just like PPP have been eliminated from politics its Nawaz's turn!
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May 04, 2015 03:24pm
Great decision if not reverted...
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May 04, 2015 03:24pm
Already waiting to recast my vote to PTI with the same enthusiasm as i did in 2013....
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May 04, 2015 03:25pm
Dancing moments for PTI ...........
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May 04, 2015 03:25pm
First victory for IK...way to go!!!
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May 04, 2015 03:25pm
pti vindicated ! lets have it
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May 04, 2015 03:25pm
Wow Wow Wow - I dont know how true it is, but if it is, then this is a huge setback to NS and PML N and huge boost to IK
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May 04, 2015 03:25pm
a big WOW!
So much for the PML(N) stalwarts. A big win for IK but it will be an uphill task to win the seat in Lahore given the present turn of events.
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May 04, 2015 03:26pm
Now what left for JC to probe?
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May 04, 2015 03:27pm
this will show who Lahore educated class really voted for. Long Live PTI
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May 04, 2015 03:27pm
I hope the repolling helps truth's victory.
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May 04, 2015 03:28pm
Candidates proved to be involved in rigging should be barred from participating in the re-election and should be punished for sabotaging the electoral process.
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May 04, 2015 03:28pm
In the end Truth always prevails.... Long Live Imran Khan you are truly an inspiration !!
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May 04, 2015 03:30pm
Where are the people who always criticized IK,s Dharna? This decision from Tribunal prove that IK,s dharana was 100% right against Election rigging.
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May 04, 2015 03:31pm
I have heard that conditions of railway have improved a little bit during times of Saad rafique, though some people will not agree with me. Hope that justice will prevail.
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May 04, 2015 03:32pm
IK you made history in Pakistan. People of Pakistan will remember your efforts for free and fair election for our next Generations.
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May 04, 2015 03:32pm
I guess stake is high for IK , if he loose the re-election then he could be over in Punjab and if he win then he could do a big damage to NS. so finger crossed!
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May 04, 2015 03:33pm
Good move NS led election tribunal.
The populartity of NS is high because of Pak Chaina economic corridor.
Together with another systematic rigging PMLN will win.
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May 04, 2015 03:33pm
Good v good.....justice be prevail
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May 04, 2015 03:34pm
Cat is out of box now
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May 04, 2015 03:34pm
First time in the history of Pakistan, justice has been done on election rigging
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May 04, 2015 03:34pm
So finally IK's swings got NS from back.
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May 04, 2015 03:35pm
PTI PTI PTI
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May 04, 2015 03:35pm
Timing of this decision will shift focus from MQM...
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May 04, 2015 03:37pm
A start of proofs
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May 04, 2015 03:37pm
This proves IK point. Is 2015 election year????
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May 04, 2015 03:38pm
so will it change anything? Ik is right then
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May 04, 2015 03:39pm
This will provide breathing space to MQM now...
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May 04, 2015 03:40pm
the truth has prevailed. Investigate fully and there will be many more such rigged results in favor of PML N and also MQM.
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May 04, 2015 03:40pm
The minister and an anchor person of a chennal were very vocal about the tribunal's proceedings in his favour, and what civilised option left for them !!!!!!!!
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May 04, 2015 03:42pm
Tabdeeli aa nai rahi,, Tabdeeli aa gai hi !! Best news for IK for Pakistan Democracy
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May 04, 2015 03:43pm
A lot has been done to to discredit IK and at times it seemed that the 'Dhurnas' were pointless BUT alas IK was right in that the election mandate was stolen from the electorate!
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May 04, 2015 03:44pm
Great victory for Pakistan . live long Pakistan, Down with PMLN
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May 04, 2015 03:44pm
@Dr. Sadaf History is full of 1 man making history
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May 04, 2015 03:46pm
Rangers should be deployed and CCTV camera and more......Like NA-246 Election.
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May 04, 2015 03:47pm
IK I am very happy that I never doubted you for even a split second. IK love you!! Saad Rafiq should not be allowed to contest future elections and should be penalized according to the law. ECP says that all rigging petitions would be judged in a matter of months but here it took ECP more than two years. What about the decisions Said Rafiq made as Railways Minister when he came into power through rigging. What about the common man who files the rigging petition but neither has enough finance or determination like PTI to pursue the rigging case for two long years. ECP needs to answer these questions but I would still commend the tribunal head to go with the truth.
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May 04, 2015 03:48pm
And i am sure PML N will win because they have done alot better than imran khan.KPK says it all.
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May 04, 2015 03:48pm
Khawaja Saad Rafiq Sahib, what more can you say about this. Its all proven now. Take it for granted PTI will win this re election.
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May 04, 2015 03:49pm
Justice delayed is justice denied..it wont be the case for PTI but surely for the people of pakistan.
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May 04, 2015 03:49pm
ITS a hostoric day in the history of Paksitan.. still a long way to go though..
Mubarak Naya Paksitan..
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May 04, 2015 03:50pm
@Abaid Really?
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May 04, 2015 03:51pm
Big blow for PML-N
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May 04, 2015 03:51pm
@Dr. Sadaf don't be a cynic please. Gradual improvements and small victories like these are what we need.
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May 04, 2015 03:52pm
People should not forget the recently concluded cantonment board elections. The results of a re-election are not going to be any different. This is not to suggest that there were no wrong doings in 2013 elections. This is to highlight that the wrong doings were also proportional. NA-246 is an example.
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May 04, 2015 03:52pm
Congratulations to PTI
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May 04, 2015 03:52pm
Truth always prevails.
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May 04, 2015 03:55pm
any moral authority for the govt to stay now?
the guy enjoyed privileges of a federal minister for two years with a sham victory.
btw what about those who supervised and authenticated his victory in first place?
lots of questions which needs answered.
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May 04, 2015 03:55pm
its going to be challenge in High court soon and decision will be reversed in no time.
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May 04, 2015 03:55pm
Just re-election! What about the perpetrators who committed this crime? Unless they are brought to justice, no one in future would stop these rigging and irregularities. Please bring a fair system, at least the politicians start from their election.
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May 04, 2015 03:56pm
Good to hear that. Now this election must be held keep NA-246 as benchmark.
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May 04, 2015 04:02pm
Kindly recover all the money of all the candidates spent on the elections from Khuwaja on the elections and all the benefits he has taken - recover all the cost of his expenses as a Member of the Assembly so that in future such corrupt people should not do any rigging. Otherwise Pakistani will lose more money on re-election and Khhuwaja will invest more money on rigging and get back his seat and then recover his invested money on the rigging.
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May 04, 2015 04:04pm
What a ridiculous decision. No one is made culpable. How can you make such decisions without giving the punishment to the culprits first? This is nations money spending opulently for the nonsense. I am sure Saad Rafique will eventually win b/c this is all pre-planned to declare the election free and fair
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May 04, 2015 04:05pm
Nawaz sharif is the prime minister of Pakistan and he is the leader who have clearly declared these elections the most fair... So why now all this is going on? This will break Pakistan.
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May 04, 2015 04:05pm
Alhamdolillah....Alhamdolillah.....Alhamdolillah......
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May 04, 2015 04:05pm
A step forward towards free and fair elections in Pakistan. Free in terms of external and internal manipulations and fair in the sense that the system is tamper-proof.
I.K. should next ask why and how foreign observers declared the elections free and fair? What was / is their agenda?
In the answer lies the solution to the current turmoil and blood-lust our country has been subjected to.
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May 04, 2015 04:06pm
and they will rig it again..
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May 04, 2015 04:07pm
This proves that courts are free in Pakistan. This is the biggest ray of hope I see. Now PTI and all other parties should be ready to accept and own verdict of the Judicial Commission. I hope Saad Rafiq will easily re win this seat.
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May 04, 2015 04:07pm
Thank you Imran Khan! Pakistani nation will remember you as the beacon of justice!
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May 04, 2015 04:07pm
Saad Rafiq, Wake up and go to sleep as a politician. The Nation is longing for a better political system
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May 04, 2015 04:08pm
doesnt matter much if IK wins or looses in re election... he proved he was right
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May 04, 2015 04:10pm
@Dr. Sadaf
Dear Dr. sadaf. It has always been the "one man" who stood up and challenged the system all the way through who has won.
Examples? There are many from the prophets, and in the world of politics from Castro, Imam Khomeini to Mao to Mandela.
I know how frustrating it is but I believe that TRUTH ALWAYS WINS.
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May 04, 2015 04:12pm
We don't need a rigged parliament anymore. It is time to charge a team of honest, competent, and sincere technocrats for five years with a 4-point agenda to work out security issues with the armed forces, eliminate corruption, put the economy back on track, and design a system of honest elections to be held in 2020. Wither not Pakistan!
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May 04, 2015 04:13pm
All the more reasons the judiciary in Pakistan must be reformed to deliver justice in an efficient manner.
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May 04, 2015 04:14pm
Can't wait to contribute funds to PTI election campaign @KSA
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May 04, 2015 04:14pm
@Dr. Sadaf Whichever World IK is living in he and his party proved that we are living in hypocrite world.
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May 04, 2015 04:15pm
If rigging has been proved than Khawaja Saad Rafiq and Mian Naseer Ahmed should not only be disqualified but punished for stealing the mandate. How comes they are allowed to contest again?
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May 04, 2015 04:15pm
Finally justice has prevailed, but not before letting a usurper cause much damage to democracy and the nation.
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May 04, 2015 04:16pm
You can disagree with Imran's politics but he has done all of us a big favor. This ruling by the Election Tribunal may be the first small step to eliminate dirty elections in Pakistan for the future.
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May 04, 2015 04:17pm
@Umair Don't care if PTI would win it or not. After all they already won the series. PML-N winning again is nothing more than a mere consolation.
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May 04, 2015 04:18pm
Saad Rafique will win again, PML-N has gained over IK in the last 6 months.
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May 04, 2015 04:19pm
No wonder Saad Rafique was so much against an independent review. Now the source of wealth of all disqualified persons should be investigated independently.
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May 04, 2015 04:20pm
PTI is still going to lose it.
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May 04, 2015 04:20pm
In what capacity is Reham Khan chirping about so much ?
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May 04, 2015 04:20pm
The Khwaja should be appropriately punished besides debarred for contesting at least two general elections.
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May 04, 2015 04:21pm
Open the bags and Pandora box will open. The fake mandate is proven.
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May 04, 2015 04:21pm
So who's fault was it, Saad Rafiq's or election commission?
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May 04, 2015 04:22pm
We want electioneering by-pol to be done in #NA125 #Lahore under Army Supervision, CCTV , Biometric, ban on pillion-riding, on a work day, updated voters list and not more than 4 voters inside the polling station at one time and see if #Lahore gives 83k votes to PTI and 123k votes to PMLN . (why only this bias behavior toward only #Karachi???)
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May 04, 2015 04:22pm
@Abdullah Could someone recall words of Khawaja Asif which he said in NA? applies here for Saad Rafiq and future candidate from PML-N distinctly.
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May 04, 2015 04:22pm
That leaves 34 punctures!!!!
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May 04, 2015 04:23pm
Those who have rigged election must not be seen in election again.
They must also be brought to book.
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May 04, 2015 04:23pm
lets see if PTI can win it Now?
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May 04, 2015 04:24pm
How it is proved that bogus votes were casted by PTI or PMLN while all officials were posted by PTI recommendations. I hope in re-election again Saad Rafiq will win.
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May 04, 2015 04:25pm
@Umer Ali @Iqbal Khan:Mandate of Judicial Commission was not to declare punishment to the guilty party but to probe if the elections were rigged or not? If yes, what are their recommendations. It's time for Election Commission to take action against the culprits.
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May 04, 2015 04:27pm
YESS!
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May 04, 2015 04:28pm
Had we believed in judicial system, we could have escaped so much mess. It is time for us to develop, strengthen and entrust our institutions without declaring them sacred and above criticism.
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May 04, 2015 04:29pm
@Awais Ali You are weakening your case if you are saying that this decision has been influenced by dharma
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May 04, 2015 04:30pm
@Hussain It only confirms that no matter how rotten a system be, some good always exists there. We have yet to see a system that is delivering what it is expected to deliver in an overwhelming proportion of instances.
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May 04, 2015 04:31pm
Is this order for re-election enough ? All those who connived and / or were involved in criminal act of negligence and allowed people to cast bogus votes in thousands should /must also be taken to task and handed out severe punishment. If the rulers - the N-league - does not take any such action and punish the real culprits it would simply mean that they were also partner in crime.
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May 04, 2015 04:32pm
This is moral victory for pti. Weldon pti.try to deliver ur best.
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May 04, 2015 04:33pm
What ever the case might be, But I am 100% Sure PML(N) will again Win the both NA-125 AND pp 155 elections,..................Mind It.
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May 04, 2015 04:34pm
Whatever. IK is not welcome in Punjab.
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May 04, 2015 04:36pm
now some kiddos will tell you that its because of dharna and dance of khattak.although its long over...5 months to be precise
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May 04, 2015 04:36pm
Love you Imaran Khan.....
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May 04, 2015 04:36pm
Despite tall claims of large-scale rigging in Karachi by PTI recent by-elections in NA246 with heavy presence of rangers proved that overall result did not change. In a similar fashion even if all booths are installed with CCTV cameras and Army Offrs themselves conduct/supervise the by-elections in NA125, in most transparent manner possible I can bet it would be won by PML-N! What PTI trolls fail to understand is that the irregularities committed in election 2013 were not skewed in statistically significant manner in favor of PML-N.
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May 04, 2015 04:38pm
Imran Khan victorious for his undaunted stance that 2013 elections were stolen. Congrats Pakistani nation! Get prepared for general re-election in 2015. Hon'able SC to ensure free fair and transparent re-election in accordance with Constitution of Pakistan, via biometric and Electronic Voting Machines (EVM's) so no one can point fingers. We are in lead now in Islamic world.
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May 04, 2015 04:38pm
will Saad Raafique pay back the tax payers money which he got for 24 months as salary, perks and protocols?
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May 04, 2015 04:41pm
Let me remind Saad Rafiq, he kept saying he'll retire from politics if he lost. It is time for him to go. #NA125
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May 04, 2015 04:43pm
@Kashif and also election thru computerised finger prints.IK must demand this from Election commission today.
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May 04, 2015 04:45pm
bravo pti
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May 04, 2015 04:48pm
This is NOT about the PTI or PML N. Parties are not important. The system is. If we can develop a system that eliminates fraud, whoever comes to power will be and should be welcome.
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May 04, 2015 04:51pm
Who will now find out, how this vote rigging took place and who allowed it to go on.
Until these people are punished, the rigging will take place again unless Rangers supervision is present.
In Pakistan people commit crimes because they know that no action will be taken against them.
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May 04, 2015 04:52pm
"...on an average each person had cast six votes each" word thappa mafia comes to mind.
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May 04, 2015 04:52pm
Now the reelection of NA 125 is a test case.It must be done under electronic thumb impression(Biometric).
The judical commission must wait for this result to decide finally on rigging 2013 election.
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May 04, 2015 04:55pm
Now, it is proven that rigging was done to change the mandate in Lahore constituencies; same amount of CCTV cameras, rangers, police should be deployed as was done in NA246.
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May 04, 2015 04:55pm
Congratulations to PTI as they are struggling for fair and free elections
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May 04, 2015 04:58pm
Best wishes for PTI struggle
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May 04, 2015 04:59pm
@Waseem Whether they were skewed significantly or not is NOT the point. If one vote was cast unfairly, it should not be. We deserve fair and clean elections and it doesn't matter who wins. Let the system cleanse itself.
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May 04, 2015 05:02pm
PML-N trolls are now trying to defend rigging by Khawaja. I'm lovin it!
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May 04, 2015 05:04pm
IK in your press conference this evening please highlight the importance of punishment for those who rigged the elections and ask for inquiry into why the returning officers rigged and and who ordered them to do so. Without answers to these questions the value of this victory would be smalll. Good luck IK. I know you can do it!!
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May 04, 2015 05:05pm
If there is any indication of who will win the by-election then look at the Lahore Cantonment elections result. I am afraid Hamid Khan and PTI will suffer another defeat again. They need to remember the winning margin was 40000.
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May 04, 2015 05:10pm
Congratz IK your struggle is now showing light
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May 04, 2015 05:10pm
But if PTI lose it again then....?
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May 04, 2015 05:13pm
I am sure rigging also took place heavily in Karachi but the Karachi PTI team probably out of fear didn't pursue the cases. Yes MQM won fairly in NA246 recently. But that is only because it is their base. If elections in Karachi's all other constituencies are conducted in the same secure environment as it was recently in NA 246 then the result would be different in almost 70 percent of Karachi's constituencies. Remember that ECP accepted on the very day that they couldn't conduct fair elections in Karachi.
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May 04, 2015 05:17pm
NA-125 & Khawja Saad Rafique was the main cause of whole PTI showdown at Islamabad. Its less likely PTI is going to win but the margin of winning will be reduced to around 10,000.
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May 04, 2015 05:18pm
@Malveros - Open your eyes! You're on the report of same election which has been declared as rigged. 40,000 was all fake. Cantt board election doesn't prove anything. This by election will be fought seriously, i can bet on it.
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May 04, 2015 05:19pm
It is amazing that PML-N trolls would still back a corrupt man who has just been proved wrong by the court.
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May 04, 2015 05:21pm
Saad Rafique is part of inner circle of Sharifs- Storm is brewing in Sharif's fiefdom of Punjab.
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May 04, 2015 05:22pm
Vote early and often used to be the "Motto" in Cook county. Even people long passed away used to vote. This beats it by a country mile. By the it is no longer the practice
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May 04, 2015 05:22pm
@Malveros PMLN only won because PTI was focusing on Judicial Commission more than the cantonment elections. But with re-elections in NA125 we would see PTI campaigning fully with IK and Hamid Khan taking the lead. Secondly if PMLN or certain elements of it can rig elections with the so called neutral returning officers then they could have done it in cantonment elections too with all the machinery under their control. However, such rigging would not be allowed in future.
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May 04, 2015 05:23pm
Instead winning and crying Sad Rafeeq should welcome reelection decision. Is he worried that this time election will held under Rangers supervision?
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May 04, 2015 05:25pm
saad rafique will win again
living in sea of lies spit by PTI is the dilemma of those driving 20 million plus cars and wanting 'new pakistan'
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May 04, 2015 05:25pm
I have been away a long time. Used to live Na 155 area. I wonder if somehow my vote was cast
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May 04, 2015 05:25pm
This decision is welcoming, great news for PTI and Pakistan.
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May 04, 2015 05:26pm
Great victory for the people of Pakistan and thanks to the honest tribunal. Imran Khan keep up good work.
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May 04, 2015 05:27pm
Can you believe this? This minister is trying to blame presiding officer. It is what I. k want from the first day.
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May 04, 2015 05:31pm
What else judicial commission requires as proof of rigging in election.General election 2013 was bought by pml (n) it is beyound doubt
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May 04, 2015 05:31pm
Well Done PTI! Mr. Saad Rafiq, please have some self esteem and step down. All that money you gave to so many people for ballot rigging has now gone waste.
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May 04, 2015 05:32pm
Super!!! Good riddance Mr Khawaja, you used to think that you are the king!!!
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May 04, 2015 05:33pm
Sad news for Saad, he will win again. PTI just causing problem in Pak.
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May 04, 2015 05:33pm
@Malveros Have you not read the judgement? The winning margin of 40,000 votes is because of fraudulent votes.
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May 04, 2015 05:42pm
What about Aitzaz Ahsan's complaint ?
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May 04, 2015 05:44pm
Will you believe this its against the Saint of our Time!
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May 04, 2015 05:47pm
This tells you volumes about the PML(N)'s mandate. This is a seat in Lahore, just imagine what would have they done in the rural seats of southern Punjab
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May 04, 2015 05:49pm
@KM Please speak about yourself alone. You alone are not Punjab.
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May 04, 2015 06:12pm
PTI will win this seat. PMLN supporters should now stop criticizing IK. His stand regarding rigging is vindicated.
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May 04, 2015 06:21pm
Sir, it is a great shame for Nawaz that one of his biggest minister in gone. None of the Nawaz family is working hard for the people and the Pakistan. It is proper time that all three Shariefs should commit suicide .
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May 04, 2015 06:23pm
@Youth just like Imran ismail won in Karachi right?
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May 04, 2015 06:30pm
@Talha
That is a sorry excuse given for PTI losing in the Lahore Cantonment Elections. Open your eyes and don't blindly believe that PTI will win. It is a definite PML (N) seat.
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May 04, 2015 06:31pm
The problem with this is that it should be further investigated. What is to deter a man from cheating again? This should be considered high treason for cheating the people and defrauding the system. Culprits should be jailed for 10 years and banned from politics. They are not even getting a slap on the wrist. Do you think the criminals will stop their crimes?
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May 04, 2015 06:31pm
@Azam Jamil
280 bogus votes means nothing. A margin of 40000 will never be covered by PTI in the by-election. A big defeat awaits PTI again.
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May 04, 2015 06:33pm
@Dilectus
Cantt Elections prove everything. It is a definite PML(N) seat. PTI can enjoy this false glory for a few days.
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May 04, 2015 06:35pm
@Dilectus
Khawaja Saad Rafique has never been proven to be corrupt. Rather the corruption of KPK CM and his ministers is known to everyone.
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May 04, 2015 06:36pm
@Harmony-1 Yes its, because PTI has been demanding this for the last 2 years, whole Nation supported it, did you see the Dharnas, which was only for this??
In my view, there is NO reason for NO league to continue, a New Election is a must now.
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May 04, 2015 06:37pm
@Azam Jamil
You do know that the 280 bogus votes discovered are from the polling stations where Hamid Khan won. This ruling will have no effect.
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May 04, 2015 06:43pm
@Dr. Sadaf your thoughts bring to mind Cervantes classic in which Don Quijote took on the world and how!!! Same today....
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May 04, 2015 06:49pm
All I can say is "WooooooooooH"! That is a big sigh of relief!
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May 04, 2015 06:49pm
Hold the elections otherwise I am going back to 'Dharnas'
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May 04, 2015 06:50pm
It isnt matter of rigging now but its all about Pakistan future and end of powerful maffia
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May 04, 2015 06:50pm
@Dr. Sadaf this time election should be held in similar way as was held in karachi with Rangers in and out of polling stations then whoever wins will be accepted by all.
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May 04, 2015 06:53pm
@Arslan , I really hope that this time also a miracle happens but I think you will also agree with me that the people who made this happen in the first place are too mighty and well entrenched for even IK.
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May 04, 2015 06:54pm
good news for ik supporters .....
.......also for judicial commission
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May 04, 2015 06:59pm
This outcome also seems to be some sort of set up, because you see if one can play with election of the whole country and when everything and everybody is in their pocket couldn't they control this decision. Let us wait and watch before going into celebrations, all of them are too experienced in distorting facts so with them nobody knows what is at the end of the tunnel.
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May 04, 2015 07:00pm
morale victory for PTI and IK better late than never! truth prevails finally... but the question remains: who are the culprits who rigged election?
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May 04, 2015 07:01pm
In my younger days there was a popular comedy show called 50/50, in one of the shows, there was a guy with a tank mounted on his car goes through a check post. The police looks inside the car and around it and says yes its clean and good to go. Rigging of this scale and Khawaja sahib is not guildy? I must be the queen of England!
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May 04, 2015 07:03pm
@Arslan , excuse me I am not being cynical at all, what I am being is called living in reality, please see the track record of the party in power and then make your comment. If it were in my power it would have been IK sitting on the throne.
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May 04, 2015 07:10pm
If we are a vibrant and alive nation. we should treat NA125 re-election for poor voters as victory to dismantle the elite class shell... as a matter of fact, seems many more constituencies will be open soon for re-elections, and subsequently on moral ground PMLN should resign whether its ONE or ONE HUNDRED seats.
whatever the result may be, everyone should except same without further cribbing and cringe.
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May 04, 2015 07:13pm
Efforts of PTI, fruit to Awam of Pakistan, healthy sign.
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May 04, 2015 07:20pm
Good decision in the end. Khawaja will win again may be but should by Fair means
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May 04, 2015 07:29pm
It is not unlikely that same tainted candidates will be allowed to contest and they win again. But this time their win will be the outcome of 'mind closing' pathetic education system that produces mindliess follower, and not because of the rigging. Big difference!
The very cunning schema of status quo parties since last 30 years has been: Keep masses illiterate hence poor and sick. Soft target to exploit. Buy them cheaply or frighten them easily.
It is a long battle but definitely things are changing beyond doubt.
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May 04, 2015 07:38pm
PTI will by 100,000 votes
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May 04, 2015 07:39pm
This is a huge huge victory for Imran Khan. In this country people steal, kill, loot and and not just little but from millions of $$$ to setting 200 workers on fire in factory but there has NEVER been accountability and here only votes wore stolen (normal thing) and Imran Khan stood up for it and made them COUNT and CORRECTIVE measures are now taken, this is the FIRST accountability of the country. This is what this man can do for us!
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May 04, 2015 07:42pm
@Malveros In the same capacity that Maryam Nawaz Sharif had been chirping for the last two years. Give us a break.
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May 04, 2015 07:43pm
@Malveros, she is a chairperson of an NGO with no funds allotted, she will have raise fund herself. Every one should start such organisation and be a chairperson for a good cause.
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May 04, 2015 07:48pm
@Malveros Hamid Khan won the polling station because of bogus vote, or despite them. I think you know the answer. I certainly do.
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May 04, 2015 07:48pm
@Malveros - as a free citizen of Pakistan, she has every right to say whatever
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May 04, 2015 07:56pm
Rigging in Pakistani elections isn't something new known to the public. I wonder what the election tribunal has been doing in 2 years!
At-least this is the way, democracy will strengthen in this country.
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May 04, 2015 08:08pm
IK lives in fool's paradise. There will be landslide victory to PMLN as it was for MQM Karachi
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May 04, 2015 08:09pm
@lkhan , thank you for introducing me to a new series of books, reading books on archeology and mythology is my hobby. I have done some research about the writer and will have to read some text in order to understand your comment fully but please do share that who will play the role of village priest and barber.
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May 04, 2015 08:15pm
Saad Rafique and Mian Naseer Ahmad, both from PML(N), should be debarred from elections and be tried in Court of Law for doing the forgery and wasting public time and money.
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May 04, 2015 08:21pm
I don't know why PML (N) supporters are still not accepting. They should simply go for another election the result will be same like NA 246. Party who has popular support will win hands down.
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May 04, 2015 08:28pm
Must have Electronic voting this time.
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May 04, 2015 08:33pm
As Dr Awab Alvi pointed out on his tweet. it took 1 yr 11 months and 23 days for judiciary and ECP of Pakistan to act on it
Imran and PTI hard work finally paying off. But it is so sad that one has to do that much scarifies to ask Court and ECP to look into election rigging where every party including PMLN had said there was rigging in election.
Judiciary must punish severely those who were involved in rigging other wise it will happen again
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May 04, 2015 08:51pm
IK has never been financially corrupt. He comes from a fairly privileged background. Current situation of the country and with the options we have .. I would like to see him in power. As far as this result is concerned, I can only hope that IK and party finally start making the decisions that can steer them through this dirt.
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May 04, 2015 08:52pm
Looks like the usual two years and out for NS then. I'm a bit fearful that there are still plenty of ill educated people who will blindly support their team and vote for PML-N as they did for MQM, I say team because these people don't understand they treat it like a sport and support their team no matter how corrupt.
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May 04, 2015 08:54pm
Railway minister derailed.....
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May 04, 2015 09:41pm
Struggle struggle and struggle and you will have it. Lahore is the starting point for change... a khan
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May 04, 2015 09:43pm
@Dr. Sadaf -- why not Support this one person? who is trying to fight against Corruption
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May 04, 2015 09:43pm
If the average voter casted 6 votes then to whom the votes were casted and bye the way have they look for duplication of CNIC numbers. One main thing NA-125 and PP-155 these constituencies are in Lahore not in any village so total number of votes casted should be more than 600000, if the judgement is correct - therefore CONCLUSION - stupid decision and hence KANGRO COURT. I wish if ET prints my comments and I'm doubtful
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May 04, 2015 09:44pm
Never forget Pakistan during the war of POWER & MONEY.
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May 04, 2015 09:53pm
pti will lose again. simple as that
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May 04, 2015 10:05pm
He can become Minister for PTI Affairs even if he is not a MNA now.
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May 04, 2015 10:25pm
Shame on PML(N), it is not democracy, it is riggocracy in Pakistan. What a sham election. You can cheat the world but you cannot cheat your own people for long time.
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May 04, 2015 10:36pm
@Haseen I fully agree, Saad Rafique will win with a bigger margin.
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May 04, 2015 11:06pm
I appreciate the efforts of tribunal for bringing the facts in front of the nation and handling the case with utter fairness. This decision might have come very late but I would say that still there are people in Pakistan, who can stand against Tyranny and do Justice. Morally and ethically Khawaja Sahib should not comment on it and stop buffooning the people anymore.
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May 04, 2015 11:19pm
@Zibbi maybe
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May 04, 2015 11:40pm
My hope is that this whole exercise does not turn out to be complete general elections. The main reason is that the ongoing military operations should reach there logical end and the recent positive trend in economy should continue. I think if something hinders these developments it will be unfortunate.
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May 04, 2015 11:51pm
@Dr. Sadaf But someone somewhere has to keep trying, if everyone gave up like you suggest then evil wins....there is a proverb "Evil thrives when good men sit and do nothing" so good on IK at least he is trying the best he can.
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May 05, 2015 12:10am
PTI will lose. NS will win
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May 05, 2015 12:18am
"---ballot bags had been opened with a sharp object and the records had been tampered with"---by the goons of those who want to win by hook or crook through all the tricks conceived after the fact.
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May 05, 2015 12:30am
This is decision in favor of one of the senior most adocate mr Hamid khan. How irregulaities in only 7 poling could be bench mark for reelection
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May 05, 2015 12:32am
Thank you Imran Pakistan will remember you for your follishness
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May 05, 2015 12:58am
The elections are a costly business. Only the very rich can take part. The whole electoral system needs to be changed so the common man can get a chance at the ballot.
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May 05, 2015 01:00am
Amazing skills or spinelessness? Ballot bags have been open by sharp objects, on average one person casted six votes, and the champion of democracies claiming rigging is not proved. Oh it was in naivety that returning officers thought that they may have left their house keys by mistake in the bags, that's why they cut through the bags. After all it was against humanity and ethics that a person after performing his duty honestly and honorably couldn't go back to his home for a well deserve sleep.
Another one bites the dust...........
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May 05, 2015 01:02am
Saad Rafi now use polite language, now understand why he was using harsh language for IK and PTI - Cat came out from Bag. More alarming situation is that whose instructions these ROs acting + benefiting and cost, who paid them to work for Kh.Saad, why he used them.
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May 05, 2015 01:07am
To all those who are happy and those who are pessimists.
Remember its only a battle, Pakistani's need to win another 150 battles to win the war.
Here goes the first one, who is next?
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May 05, 2015 01:34am
Sheer and consistent allegiance by Imran Khan and PTI to the good people of Pakistan has finally shown factual results. This election voting fraud is finally exposed despite PML-N's feet dragging and constant hemming and hawing ever since IK took bold steps to expose this corrupt vote stealing by the now billy baba of Punjab ... lol
One can be sure the Amreeki's are not too happy when the real face of democracy is unveiled since their support of Nawaz has been too apparent.
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May 05, 2015 01:36am
Congrats to IK and PTI for a long awaited fait accompli! Let's hope this is only the tip of the iceberg, and many more dubious votes will be exposed throughout Pakistan whereby Nawaz and company will be shown the exit door ASAP : ))
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May 05, 2015 03:25am
@Dr. Sadaf ! I understand were you coming from, But look at this way some one has to stand up against this corrupt system. The system is so bad and infected that no one even thing about restructuring or rebuilding it again because it'so messy that we might get infected or get hurt.I call my self true patriot Love Pakistan, but only by word but when I thing about what I have done form my country, I feel so ashamed of my self. So what I did think Explore my option and Best option I saw was "Imran Khan" and his Team of Super Hero's Like Avengers. I am so happy to see there is Hope. Abhi to Party Shuru Hui Hai!
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May 05, 2015 03:42am
What a justice system we have - Railway Minister enjoying his minister ship for almost two years before being de-seated by the Election Tribunal. It should be mandatory for the Election Tribunals to conclude in 120 days as specified in the law, with loop holes available to delay the verdict - mostly as much as by full term of the person in question.
In such cases stay orders should NOT be allowed, otherwise justice will always be delayed. But our parliamentarians having morals as they have, shall never allow this to happen.
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May 05, 2015 07:11am
PTI wants to achieve at minimum an environment which would provide for a fairer electoral process come next election, they are seeking convictions for past offenders believing only by bringing them to justice they have a fair shot at next ballot.
PML-N says yes last election was riddled with irregularities but that has been a characteristics of our electoral process and that they also have been victim of it as well. Now if all parties agree for reforms PML-N says they are for it but not on their expense and not on their watch.
What we as a nation gain out of this war of compromises between PML_N and PTI is hopefully far more then what PML-N is ready to give and far less then what PTI set out to achieve.
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May 05, 2015 07:16am
This is a partial decision. The judgment has no proper basis
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May 05, 2015 07:26am
WOOOOOOW, big victory for PTI, but that PTI shall get back this seat after re-election. I now see to have some hope in the election commission especially the way election commission ensured fair and free election (nearly impossible at the outset) in Karachi for NA246? where MQM won. We need free and fair election for each constituency, and the people's choice shall be respected at every cost.
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May 05, 2015 07:32am
@Kashif completely agreed. Please please election commission adopt the same process for ensuring free and fair election as were done for NA246 in Karachi.
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May 05, 2015 07:34am
@Abdullah don't live in fool paradise please. You have no idea of what's been in KPK by PTI.
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May 05, 2015 07:45am
@Waseem You think that you know more than the election tribunal knows of this seat! What a pity is this.
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May 05, 2015 08:12am
Mr.Saad Rafique could you explain what according to you is rigging ?
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May 05, 2015 09:31am
It would be ironic if PMLN facilitates , what most consider illegal, presence of PTI MNA's in the parliament while losing its seats to them. Poetic justice?
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May 05, 2015 10:13am
Should the EC have waited for 2 years to come up with this ? If they owe anything to the nation better they go ahead on their own to open bags of other constituencies and expiate some of their sins.
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May 05, 2015 10:57am
@SSJ , I have not suggested anywhere in my comments that we should give up but we have to face the reality also the people playing with our and our children's future are too strong and old players of this game so we have to find some way to fight them and that is only by strengthening the core areas which run the country and most of all education should be mandatory so that common people can understand whom to vote for but you see the irony of the situation is when educated people start criticizing IK and his policies which is very frustrating, we listen to them day and night lecturing and then you start feeling that then what is the way out of this mess.
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May 05, 2015 10:58am
@Khan It was done on the basis of random sampling which is an internationally accepted norm . It is not possible to check each and every poling booth.
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May 05, 2015 12:06pm
@Dilectus Why it is amazing for you the corrupt ones will always support the corrupt.
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May 05, 2015 12:07pm
@Harmony-1 Yes I agree.
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May 05, 2015 12:10pm
@Dr. Sadaf .Imran Khan is not alone.Together with public like you and me Imran Khan will inshallah bring a change in this country.Never before in the Pakistan's history,there is a debate going on after two years of elections about its fairness and transparency.PTI stancs that ROs were responsible for rigging the elections has now been confirmed by PML leader Saad Rafique. He should have accepted the verdict of Election Tribunal with grace,rather than holding press conferences and telling public that word RIGGING was not present in the given verdict!
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May 05, 2015 12:14pm
@Spider-man Yes they should be disqualified for election for ever and should also be punished for cheating and stealing the peoples mandate.
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May 05, 2015 12:16pm
@commentswala You are absolutely right.
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May 05, 2015 12:17pm
@Awais Ali Yes.
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May 05, 2015 12:19pm
@jehanzeb yes you are right.
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May 05, 2015 12:21pm
@Tariq, Lahore Very true.
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May 05, 2015 02:01pm
I think Tribunal should also disclose benefacires of irregularities so that it could be determined who gave directions of irregularity.
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May 05, 2015 02:17pm
@spellbinder Sir, you have hit the nail on its head. Besides, the expenditure on elections sets in motion a vicious circle of CORRUPTION: Spend-Recover, many times OVER-Spend.
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May 05, 2015 10:34pm
The tribunal didn't give verdict against rigging , it give it against discrepancies of polling staff. those who are still believe that the mandate was rigged in NA125. Again they will have a set back and this time it will be more painful. few days back cantonment election give the verdict in favor of pml N. khawaja Saad is very famous in this constituency. its up to PML N leadership they went to supreme court or in election but in both cases PML N has a strong case.
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May 05, 2015 11:10pm
@Dr. Sadaf That is what sets Imran Khan apart from others. He stands up for the right even when he is standing alone. No matter how much he corrects the wrongs of this system or doesn't, only makes him more stronger a leader. As he himself says, intention and efforts count, not the end result. We know he will never stop fighting and isn't that what we have always wanted? Someone fighting FOR us as opposed to AGAINST our interests.
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