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Also Pakistan - IV

Published Aug 09, 2012 04:08pm

And so we move on with our series of ‘Also Pakistan’. Travelling from Also Pakistan, zigzagging across Also Pakistan-II and Also Pakistan-III we finally conclude with this final feature in the series.

It was an effort that with the help of painstakingly researched and collected images, tried to capture a Pakistan that now seems like a different planet compared to what it has been ever since the 1980s.

A strange, alien place that was also called Pakistan.

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A 1955 bottle of Pakola. Every Pakistani knows about Pakola Ice-Cream Soda. The bright green coloured soft-drink that is also hailed (unofficially, though) to be ‘Pakistan’s national soft-drink.’

But for the first few years Pakola struggled to find a market for itself that was packed with popular soft-drinks such as Coca-Cola, 7Up and Bubble-Up.

Then in 1955 it even had to print the words ‘Non-Alcoholic’ on its bottles because thanks to its striking colour, some stores (in Karachi) actually began storing it alongside their stock of alcoholic beverages!

By the 1970s however, Pakola finally established itself as a popular soft-drink.

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The charismatic Jacqueline Kennedy, wife of the popular US President, J. F. Kennedy, visited Pakistan in 1962. Here she is seen riding in an open-top limo with the then ruler of Pakistan, Ayub Khan, in the Saddar area of Karachi jam-packed by young men and women who had gathered on both sides of the road to greet her.

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Crowds gather at a runaway at the Karachi Airport to witness a ‘flying parade’ and joint military exercises of American and Pakistani armed forces (1953).

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A modern ‘rail car’ made in Pakistan with the collaboration of Japanese engineers parked at the Lahore Railway Station in 1964. Popular with travellers wanting to move rapidly between cities, the cars were commissioned out of service in the 1980s.

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The iconic Mausoleum of Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, under construction in Karachi. This picture was taken in 1965. The imposing structure was finally completed almost five years later.

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A 1967 image of the American Embassy in Karachi. It was one of the most recognisable buildings in Karachi’s Abdullah Haroon Road area.

Built in 1958, the Embassy, apart from handling the visa issuing operations, also had a large library.

As can be seen in the picture, it hardly had any barriers or security and its doors were open to all.

However, from the late 1980s onwards, when Islamist violence began to rise within Pakistan, the Embassy was fortified by a tall wall.

Later, especially after the tragic 9/11 event and after the building faced at least three terror attacks in the 2000s, the walls were thickened, barriers placed and security tightened.

The library that was hugely popular with Karachi’s school and collage students was closed and the visa section was moved to Islamabad.

In 2011, the building was abandoned and the Embassy was moved to a different location in Karachi. The building still stands, though.

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A scene of a snow-covered street in Quetta (1968). The street, called Layton Road, today has lost almost all of the beautiful old trees that can be seen in the picture.

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The first pages of a detailed book written by a professional travel writer from the United States. The book was published in early 1962 – a time when various American airlines and travel writers were heavily promoting Pakistan as a tourist destination.

The image is that of Karachi’s Zoological Garden that was then called the Gandhi Garden.

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A 1963 brochure printed by the government of Pakistan. The influx of western tourists arriving in the country had risen by the time this brochure was published. It contained maps and names of famous tourist spots, beaches, mountain resorts, hotels, nightclubs and bars in the country (both in West and former East Pakistan).

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A 1966 Pakistani press ad announcing the launch of famous Australian car, Valiant, in Pakistan. It was one of the first cars to be assembled in Pakistan. –Picture courtesy DAWN.

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Girls taking part in a swimming competition at a sports complex in Karachi in 1970.

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VHS cover of Pakistan’s first horror and ‘X-rated’ film, Zinda Laash (The Living Dead). Released in 1967, the film was a huge hit in an era when the Pakistan’s film industry was dishing out an average of 50 films a year, most of them romantic fantasies.

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This poster attacking the ‘imperialist grip of the American CIA’ over various ‘third world countries’ (including Pakistan) began appearing on the walls of colleges and universities of Karachi and Lahore in 1968. The poster was originally designed in South America but was reproduced in Pakistan by radical leftist student groups during their movement against the Ayub Khan dictatorship (1968-69). –Poster courtesy Rashid Chaudhry.

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Students belonging to the left-wing National Students Federation campaign during a student union elections at the Karachi University in 1969. –Picture courtesy: Tarek Fateh.

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The first men on the moon land in Pakistan. Astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin (the first men to land on the moon), arrived in Karachi in early 1970 during their tour of South Asia. Here they are seen being greeted by an enthusiastic crowd just outside the Karachi Airport. –Picture courtesy LIFE.

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A young Pakistani woman sitting on her motorbike in the Soldier Bazzar area of Karachi (1969). –Picture courtesy Zarmeena P.

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The December 1971 cover of Time magazine. The main story detailed the breaking away of former East Pakistan (after a bloody civil war with the West Pakistan army) . The picture is that of a Bengali militant celebrating the defeat of the West Pakistan military.

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An intriguing June 1971 photograph of a West Pakistani soldier searching an East Pakistani Bengali in Dhaka (the former capital of East Pakistan).  –Picture courtesy LIFE.

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Two displaced and poverty-stricken children stand in an open field surrounded by used artillery shells in a village in former war-torn East Pakistan (1971).

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A stamp celebrating Pakistan’s victory in the 1971 Hockey World Cup held in Barcelona, Spain.

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A serene image of Peshawar’s famous ‘Kisa Kahani Bazaar’ (Storytellers’ Market) in 1972. A culturally rich and ancient marketplace, the area has continuously come under terrorist attacks by Islamist militants ever since the early 2000s.

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A college student poses in front of a street in Quetta in 1972.

Today, Quetta is plagued by brutal violence involving Sunni sectarian outfits, Baloch nationalist groups and the Pakistan military.

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A 1972 picture showing European visitors and local Christians seen during a passing out ceremony at a Catholic school in Rawalpindi. –Picture courtesy John Meacham.

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A young 8-year-old Shahrukh Khan (current Bollywood star) visited Pakistan with his family (as a tourist) in 1973. Here he is seen during his family’s visit to Swat. –Picture courtesy Luqman Ghauri.

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A 1974 photograph showing the inside of a ‘hashish house’ in Quetta.

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A poster of 1973 film ‘Operation Pakistan.’ A B-grade film made by a Greek director, the film was released in Pakistan in 1973. It is about the adventures of an FBI agent who tracks down hashish smugglers in Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. The characters of Pakistanis (seen below left) were all played by amateur Pakistani actors. The film was a box-office flop.

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An early 1970s press ad of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA). PIA was considered to be one of the ten best airlines in the world between 1962 and 1980.

It constantly scored high for having ‘best in-flight entertainment,’ business class, ‘most convenient connections’, ‘delicious cuisine’ and ‘a wide selection of wine, whiskeys and beer.'

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A 1973 press ad of the famous Hotel Midway House in Karachi. The hotel was owned and run by PIA. It was located near the Karachi Airport and was popular with tourists and locals alike for its barbeque restaurant and nightclub. It was eventually closed down in the mid-1980s.

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A 1974 T-Shirt.

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Tourism in Pakistan grew two-fold in the 1970s. This special stamp was issued by the country’s Ministry of Tourism in 1975.

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A Swiss tourist gets his car’s tank filled at a gas station on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border (1974).

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A European tourist with two students of the Peshawar University in an old street of Peshawar (1974).

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A European tourist family outside a rest house in Murree, 1974.

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Tourists enjoy a buggy ride outside Peshawar’s Hotel Intercontinental (1975).

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Pakistani actress and model, Bindia, at a cultural festival in Karachi (1975).

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Famous revolutionary poet, late Habib Jalib, enjoys a drink with veteran journalist, late Khalid Hassan, and friends at a restaurant in Karachi in 1975.

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Western tourists jam with a Pakistani tabla player in Karachi (1975).

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Pakistani test cricketers Sikandar Bakht and Javed Miandad in 1976.

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A 1978 French release of an album by famous Pakistani Qawali group, the Sabri Brothers.

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Cover of a live album by popular Indian ghazal duo, Jagjit and Chitra. The album was recording during one of the many live concerts the duo played during their tour of Pakistan in 1978.

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Altaf Gohar and Khalid Hassan with Noble Prize winning Pakistani scientist, Dr. Abdus Salam (centre) in the late 1970s.

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1977 cover of famous Pakistani Urdu magazine, Dhanak. Radical in its aesthetics, the magazine was hugely popular with young men and women. It covered fashion trends, ran film reviews and also had left-leaning articles on politics.

A number of noted progressive Urdu intellectuals such as Faiz Ahmed Faiz, Munir Niazi, Mumtaz Mufti, etc., wrote regularly for Dhanak.

It was edited and published by Sarwar Sukhera. In 1979 it became the first publication to be directly clamped down by the reactionary Ziaul Haq dictatorship that took over power through a military coup in July 1977.

Deemed as ‘anti-Islam’ by the Zia regime, Dhanak offices were attacked by Jamat-e-Islami goons and Sarwar was arrested for committing ‘treason’.

Sarwar went into exile after the magazine was shut down. –Picture courtesy: Laleen Khan.

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A promotional shot of famous PTV play, Uncle Urfi (1975). It was one of the first PTV serials that is said to have ‘made roads empty of cars and people’ during the time of its telecast (8 PM every Saturday).

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A group of European tourists travelling and enjoying a cup of tea on a Pakistani train, 1976.

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A German tourist outside a ‘ hashish shop’ in the tribal areas of former NWFP (now Khyber Pakhtunkhwa), 1976.

With the state of Pakistan having little influence in such areas, shops selling hashish sprang up when young western tourists began to pour into Pakistan from Afghanistan from the late 1960s onwards. (See also ‘Hippie Trail’ in Also-Pakistan I, II and III).

Today however, these areas are strictly off-limits not only to foreigners but also Pakistanis due to the war between Islamist insurgents and the Pakistan military.

The fate of the shops is unknown. -Picture courtesy Dan Atkinson

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A special stamp released by the government of Pakistan to mark the centenary of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Karachi (1978).

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Before the great Janagir Khan and Jansher Khan in squash there was Qamar Zaman. Here he is seen arguing with the umpire while on his way to beat the then No: 1, the Australian, Jeff Hunt, during a final played in Karachi in 1976.

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An American Christian evangelist addressing Pakistani Christians and converts in a village near Abbotabad in 1977. -Picture courtesy Williamson

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Pakistani star batsman, Javed Miandad, smashes the stumps after being given out LBW in a test match against India (1979).

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Imran Khan was one of the first Pakistani cricketers to appear in press ads and TV commercials. Here he is seen with Indian batsman, Sunil Gavaskar, in a 1979 ad for Indian soft-drink, Thumbs-up.

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Pakistan Peoples Party supporters mourn and pray just outside the grounds (in Rawalpindi) where PPP Chairman and former Prime Minister, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, was hanged by the Ziaul Haq dictatorship in April 1979. This picture was taken in October 1979.

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Rajiv
Aug 13, 2012 12:57pm
Not upto your mark NFP.... i guess it has to be last in the series for good.....
Shamsi
Aug 11, 2012 11:44am
picture worth thousand words...what a great country and now we are kiiling ourselves....nobody knows why !! I see Imran Khan as the last hope , he is the only clean politian in the current scenario....pls support him and vote for him...the change will come from you and me and not from the top...
shahzad iqbal
Aug 12, 2012 10:14pm
Dont be misled by the wrong coverage given to Pakistan by the western media.It is perfectly safe to visit Pakistan and you will find people very loving and hospitable.We have our ups and downs but we are a very strong country with 180m very hard working people.I appreciate your best wishes for Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Awais
Aug 14, 2012 11:15am
Exactly :) Love my Pakistan
viqarqadir
Aug 14, 2012 11:56am
Great work. Truely impressive. Thank you.
Khawaja Ikram Ul Haq
Aug 21, 2012 09:22am
By the early seventies pakistan had been undone...broken in two...the fight between islamism, ethnicism and the armed forces had lost us east pakistan...pakistan was not very civilized even in those days but the veneer was visible of an attempt at a liberal status quo..however anarchy, an always unpopular governance, extremism and militant attempts at keeping teh country going has brought us further into the red than in the early seventies...the problem than was east pakistan...now it is the rest of pakistan
Noman
Aug 11, 2012 11:11am
Ahhh its painful to realize where we are now. We were in better shape wish we had gone in the same manner. We have suffered, I beleive, due to incapable and insincere leadership. I wish our country comes on the right track. Ameen
SLDUA
Aug 11, 2012 11:03am
By reading comments of pakistanis here, it appears that sane pakistan society is weeping and helpless. May God give them the strength to stand up.
Abdul, Germany
Aug 13, 2012 09:47am
This is also fault of Zia. :) :) :) :)
shankar
Aug 13, 2012 09:47am
Could Pakistan have revived democracy without NRO. BB & Nawaz Sherief were both in exile then. Would they have come back to contest elections without NRO? Could you have had a credible election without them? But for NRO, Musharaf would still be in power, because Pakistan would not have had a credible alternative. Once he ushered in democracy, he has now been exiled. What lesson does it teach a prospective military dictator? More like " once you grab power by dictatorial means don't ever ever go soft, don't ever return to democracy lest you will be exiled from your country, never to return"
@husainsm
Aug 12, 2012 04:21pm
India also looked west in 1990 or 1991 for its economic miracle after dumping the Soviets.
Adeel
Aug 16, 2012 11:51am
So........ Depravity and Destruction began to start in Pakistan at 60's
AYUB
Aug 17, 2012 11:33am
I LOVE MY COUNTRY .PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
Sudeep
Aug 09, 2012 01:45pm
The day pakistanis will disassociate the state(Pakistan) from religion(Islam), same good old time will come back. Why dont pakistanis understand this simple thing, religion is private for your own good/bad/whatever, dont drag it in public life.
Dilawer
Aug 09, 2012 09:51am
He pillaged, raped and plundered everything. He burnt the whole place down.
anonimo
Aug 09, 2012 09:52am
the seed that zia planted have grown into big trees now....
Ahmed Hasan
Aug 09, 2012 11:14am
Zia ruined this country then...n still we are having the fruits of his extremist Islam...!!
Zalim singh
Aug 09, 2012 11:40am
nostalgic
Pakistan Patriot
Aug 09, 2012 11:40am
The photo of the soldier checking the bengali man was a indian soldier, not west pakistani soldier. the photo was featured in the book "Bangladesh A brutal birth". The indian soldiers were apparently checking the 'lungi' of the man for weapons.
Bewildered
Aug 09, 2012 11:39am
though I never saw this Pakistan but I am sure it was meant to be that way when the people had decided to sacrifice their land, children, family and even their own life for it.
JustAnotherFriend
Aug 09, 2012 11:38am
oh wow, lovely pictures, what an era. I'm an indian and would love to visit this Pakistan. I have another 25 odd years of useful life left in me so hopefully i am able to do so in my lifetime!
Gerry D'Cunha
Aug 09, 2012 12:07pm
AHA ! you will only get back what you requested, if your people (muslims) leave their fanaticism!!! Remember the 60s and 70s, good old days. Curse Zia for making us all cry till today.
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 12:50pm
Very well said.
Fawad Siddiqui
Aug 09, 2012 09:11am
Awesome memories of Pakistan !!
mehdi
Aug 09, 2012 09:13am
.... and then Zia destroyed everything.....
ADMIN
Aug 09, 2012 09:15am
You might not be able to see some pics. We are working to fix the problem. Thank you.
Maaz S
Aug 09, 2012 09:15am
Sir...What can i say...Speechless.."A picture is worth the thousand words" i can imagine......you must have some real great memories of that ERA... keep up the good work...!
rehan1975
Aug 09, 2012 09:19am
Now THAT is a Pakistan that one can be nostalgic about..... !!!!!
Rohail
Aug 09, 2012 09:20am
Wo! Another amazing series ogf Also Pakistan. Wonderful again. Hash shops in NWFP, Shahrush Khan in swat, Europeans in Peshawar, Dhanak ... sigh. Wonder if we can ever be like that again.
ArK
Aug 09, 2012 09:32am
Thanks a lot for sharing these memorable and incredible images of what Pakistan was. I hope the extremists are happy now that they've managed to radicalize a 'normal' country now filled with hate and intolerance. This hole is getting bigger and bigger until a conscious effort is made by the silent majority of Pakistan. Pakistan Zindabad.
Naeem
Aug 09, 2012 01:22pm
It started to change with ZAB (Bhutto). On the economic side he destroyed the Industrialists spearheading the fast economic development with his pro-communist Unions and nationalisation. On the fundamentalism side, he let the genie out of bottle with the Ahmadi movement, the handling was aimed at maximizing returns for bhutto but also empowering the fanatic approach of thrashing everything in the name of religion.
mashood qadri
Aug 09, 2012 09:36am
Paracha Saab! Briefly. Pakistan was created for ECONOMICAL FREEDOM of Muslims, lived in Hindustan; not for religious freedom. As Mulims, Hindus, Christians, all were practicing their religions with complete freedome. Pakistan had been hijaked by Mullah Fanatics, like, Maududi and the company. Ever since, Pakistan has been a country of self destruction and chaos. Please, educate people, WHAT WAS THE REAL CONCEPT OF PAKISTAN: To have ecomical freedome to build a country, where Muslims could lived happy and prosperous. In reality, I believe, Pakistani culture, media is based on hippaucracy, where I would quote Great Allama Iqbal's favorite here: Ishq qaatil say bhi, maqtool say hamdardi bhi, Yeh bta kis say muhabbat ki jaza mangay ga. Sajda Khaaliq ko bhi, iblees say yarana bhi, Hashr mein kis say aqeedat ka sila mangay ga
akbar
Aug 09, 2012 09:40am
its always worth waiting another thursday.... Hope to hear from you next week again..... Kudos NFP!
Zain
Aug 09, 2012 09:41am
Dude why was Chars sold so openly. Dammed were we.
Richie
Aug 09, 2012 10:03am
Kahaan Gaye Woh Din ????
Tariq
Aug 09, 2012 10:05am
It's hard to believe that was Pakistan easy going 'normal' society gong about it's daily business compared to the 'burnt out shell' that Pakistan now resembles! Zia and those admire/d him have a lot to answer for.
ahmad butt
Aug 09, 2012 10:10am
NFP, where do you get all these valuable photos, as much as extremism is stemming in our society, what the youth sees is a glimmer of hope that we can bring about a few positive changes in our country. Especially those youngster who go abroad must know their history and not to just think about the present. During my world travel and meeting lots of foreigners here in Pakistan, I have heard of the adventures of people arriving in Karachi and travel upto north to punjab , NWFP and Azad Kashmir, some mentioning that going to the Indian side of Kashmir was the only deterrent of an otherwise impeccable holiday as they had to go to India in duration. They have praised the crystal clear water and cleanliness of Karachi beaches, the vibrant nightlife, the foods and colors of Punjab, and the snow peaks of the NWFP for adventure enthusiast and Peshawer being the cultural capital of Pakistan, some have mentioned of their parents adventures in what was a fun and tolerant Pakistan. In an anti-war rally few years ago, I met an American who told me about Pakistan was one of the non-western nation people were comfortable traveling in Asia, and apologised on behalf of his nation saying his government was partially responsible for brining about an controversially undesirable change. Although I wouldnt approve some of the things that did occur, I dont see a reason why our patriotic ghairat-mand fellow countrymen have to go abroad to enjoy such lifestyle and come back milk-clean pristine upon return . As i had played cricket and squash for a few clubs, it brought me shame that we never have idolised our heroes, while I have seen posters of Imran Khan holding the World Cup, Jahangir and Jahnser rallying for a point with POWER shoes as sponsor in various clubs of different leagues. So yes NFP you will have the idealist youth become your fans, while some will question your purpose on having to blog our past and make us wonder what has become of Pakistan.
Gerry D'Cunha
Aug 09, 2012 10:17am
The 1960s and 19i70s were the golden era in the history of Pakistan. Looking at some of the photographs in this article, my heart burns to see that peaceful Karachi again - there was complete religious freedom. The country has been hijaced by butral Zia-ul-Hq and fanatic mullahas. Can we have that era back? I also salute the comments of ArK, which is very much true.
Nauman
Aug 09, 2012 10:17am
The problem is not the extremism exercised by militants, but the mentality of common Pakistanis. Middle class, Civil society and the so called intelligentsia is happy with extremism and do not even consider it a problem. Even a slight criticism of extremism in the society irks them and is construed to be anti - islamic . Anyone who pretends to pray and recite Quran eloquently is taken to be above any criticism. Whenever you ask them to introspect, they start quoting the Quran and hadiths to justify their view points. To be honest, there is no real hope of any real change. Heart rending to see my country in a hopeless state.
Amir
Aug 09, 2012 10:20am
What Zia single-handedly did to Pakistan in 11 years is something that its foes have not been able to do since its inception. He completely destroyed a progressive and moderate nation and, sadly, he did all that in the name of religion and Islam. Bhutto also did the damage by trying to socialize the system and especially hurting the education system but that could have been reversed in the future if enough time had been given to democracy. Pakistan has now become one of the most, if not the most, intolerable country in the world and the sad thing is that this is completely oppisite to what Islam preaches.
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 01:43pm
To Rohail, "Wonder if we can ever be like that again. " I am afraid not during our life time!
Snazeer
Aug 09, 2012 10:32am
Things really started to change in Pakistan in late 60's with ZAB.
Chaudhry
Aug 09, 2012 10:33am
my comments do not appear, is there any reason for that........
Pradeep
Aug 09, 2012 10:36am
Thanks, I was about to write a post on missing pics.
Farhan
Aug 09, 2012 10:38am
It realy makes me sad to watch these pictures and think, what a nice, beautiful and peacuful country we had. But then came Zia and..... :-(
Gerry D'Cunha
Aug 09, 2012 10:49am
The 1960s and 1970s were the golden era in the history of Pakistan. Looking at some of the photographs in this article, my heart burns to see that peaceful Karachi again - there was complete religious freedom. The country has been hijaced by butral Zia-ul-Hq and fanatic mullahas. Can we have that era back?
AHA
Aug 09, 2012 10:50am
@NFP - You make me cry again. I want my Pakistan back. I want my Islam back. I want my Allah back.
Ali
Aug 09, 2012 10:54am
I am a child of the 80's era Lahore. Thanks for writing this series of articles NFP. Pakistan was such a free flowing liberal society back then as opposed to ENFORCEMENT of every thing these days :(. Makes me sad. The hashish shops were scattered all over FATA region in early 90's. I visited the region in 92 and got to see Chars + Weapons being sold openly just like Aaloo anday in supermarkets.
Mohammed
Aug 09, 2012 10:56am
These pictures are interesting and indeed show a time when Pakistan (particularly in the 1960s) was moving forward economically. However the pictures also display the lifestyles of wealthy metropolitan elite (who still continue the same lifestyle only less publically). The reality of life for most Pakistan's could not have been more different in social or economic terms, which ironically lead to the election of the PPP and disastrous nationalisation which destroyed the economy and unleashed ethnic tensions (partly) in Karachi. Trust me I’m no fan of Zia, but 100% of the blame cannot be laid at his so called religious policies. Kabul was also similar to these pictures before the communist revolution destabilised Afghanistan.
Zen
Aug 09, 2012 11:17am
The society reflected in these images is the best weapon we have against the likes of TTP. The closer we come to reviving this normal society, the weaker their stance will get in bringing total Sharia law to this country.
dr sabih
Aug 09, 2012 11:19am
hahaaa..... nice opertunity ... well, still its availabale ,, but with the LABEL : Narcotics.
Jafri676
Aug 09, 2012 11:20am
I guess beside other reasons, one main factor is population which explodes in last 20-30 years. Well if there is no entertainment left then what would we expect.
Zeus Farooq
Aug 09, 2012 11:20am
i cant really believe for, what i have just came across...... should we rephrase it to PAKISTAN AT IT'S BEST??? i mean really ?? 10th best international airline ???? and they actually had such a poster :s and they offered whiskey and wine !!! feel sorry for today's Pakistan..... However, nice fact finding, thank you for sharing NFP
Antriksh Raj
Aug 09, 2012 11:25am
NFP has vitnessed those days and cherish the memories. Sorry for hurting...... ADMIN, so! my coment is eliminated.
Civi varghese
Aug 09, 2012 11:25am
Thank you N.F.P for posting incredible photos&article.I see a tolerant,secular,progressive country.Whether Pakistan can embrace the elegant past days?
Cyrus Howell
Aug 09, 2012 11:32am
Mister Paracha, have bookmarked all four articles in your series. It is Fun to look at photos of the past. Going back to the early 1950's it was a simpler time in the world.
Sameer Awan
Aug 09, 2012 11:54am
No Zia did not destroyed but he actually increased that process. It was during Bhutto's regime the term minorities term was evolved and Pakistani constitution was modified so that Pakistani government was given the right to declare someone Muslim or Non Muslim and it was Bhutto who struck Ahmedis out of Islam and stated that Government have the right to determine who is Muslim and who is not and afterwards minority persecution and Islami Thekedaari was started and is still going on now a days.
Feroz
Aug 09, 2012 11:55am
For years citizens were asleep like Rip Wan Winkle while the charlatans who ruled not only destroyed the nations culture and heritage, but also poisoned innocent minds. Those who should have been alert slept, those who should have had better sense were selfish. Now the situation cannot be retrieved because those responsible for transforming the country into a hellhole wield all the Power, behind a democratic facade if necessary and frighteningly they hold all the guns too - voices of dissent will be suppressed or eliminated. Sorry my friends, the train has left the station.
Farrukh Ansari
Aug 09, 2012 11:56am
This is not due to Zia Ul Haq. He was a good man. Dont you people see that in 1967 an "X" rated film launched in Islamic Republic, And Hashish was allowed to be sold, and hotels were open in Ramzan. It was Zia ul Haq who tried to change upto what he could do. Why You educated people forget Henry Kessinger's famous sentence "Enemy of America could save on earth but not Friend of America" This is just because of Ameircan influence in our country. We take money from IMF and have to obey their orders.
Sameer Awan
Aug 09, 2012 11:59am
Why People are blaming Zia only. It was Bhutto who modified the constitution in the first place and termed Minority and Majority phrases and it was Bhutto who gave Pakistani Constitution the right to declare someone Muslim or Non Muslim and this leds to Fanaticism andafterwards Religious fanatics were introduced in Politics to get their votes and Bhutto listened to them and acted upon their advise. Afterwards the famous slaughter and riots took place in pakistan where hundred of Ahmedis were slaughtered around Pakistan to mark their Infidel status provided by Bhutto. The Lahore riots are the most famous one. So why Blame Zia only. Blame all the previous leaders including Bhutto who used Islam to get votes and made Amendments in constitution and use Islam to get votes. Zia only compunded the whole process and nothing else.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 09, 2012 11:59am
The joy is gone and the laughter is gone. People should be concerned about the next world after they get there. If we worry about what is permitted and what is forbidden in this world we do not treat other people in the right way. Do not let ego rule your life. Our egos are of no consequence to the Creator.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 09, 2012 12:03pm
Weapons are needed to spread the faith.
naveed
Aug 09, 2012 12:00pm
awesome...
Cyrus Howell
Aug 09, 2012 12:13pm
I am going out on a limb here - Sharia was not given to Muslims by Allah. There is historical proof of that. Those who tell you sharia is from God would make good used car salesmen. They know their religion, but not history. Compare Sharia Law with the Book of Exodus 20th chapter and 21rst chapter. Moses was a Jew not an Arab.
Almanar
Aug 09, 2012 12:14pm
Please don't end this series. Keep digging up gems like this and keep them coming. You can do it monthly if not bi-weekly. I am sure there's much more from where all this came.
Gerry D'Cunha
Aug 09, 2012 12:14pm
ArK - I salute your comments , which is very much true.
Nauman
Aug 09, 2012 12:15pm
What are you talking about? Law and order was much much better in West Pakistan. Our economy was strong. Even After 1965 war we were ok. Religious and social divisions were not as vicious as they are now. Generally, mutual respect was there. What is the reason that more the religion became central the more we became chaotic? Religion was badly abused.
Ibrahim
Aug 09, 2012 12:16pm
What a a beautiful exercise in nostalgia! Credit goes to Mr Paracha for compiling such a portfolio. Indeed there has been an intellectual and moral decay in Pakistan over the years. The country prospered during President Ayub's era, then Mr Bhutto took us on a journey of destruction, that Zia-ul-Haq complemented and accelerated. There was again some good work done by President Musharraf, and now we have the present lot of leaders in power, who make up one of the most corrupt regimes on this planet, This lot has contributed immensely, in having our our beautiful home land labelled, by the international community, as the most dangerous, and unstable country in the world. What a shame!
Hasanalirana
Aug 09, 2012 12:27pm
NFP as good as ever ! i sincerely hope that some other NFP should not be writing after a decade on similar topics and saying, "1996 Cricket World Cup was Played under lights (First ever Final to be played under flood-lights) between Sri-Lanka and Australia in Qaddafi stadium Lahore (its name might be changed by then). When an island defeated the entire continent and Arjuna Rana Tunga , the captain on Sir-Lankan, said "Thank You Lahoris , you really made us feel like as if we were playing in Colombo"!!!!! 2012-these days sporting teams from even the most volatile/turbulent country avoid coming to Pakistan, due to security reasons.
Iqbal Khan
Aug 09, 2012 12:28pm
Radicalisation started by ZAB and not Zia.People keep forgetting that Ayub Khan to great extent should be credited to creat that kind of atmosphere in the country which we all appreciate today and the person who put the foundation of destruction was no other than Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.You just have to read the history and recall events of that time.
Usman Mansoor
Aug 09, 2012 12:31pm
How could we lose so much in so little time.....lets save this album somewhere to show our coming generations the time when we were Proud and Glorious !!
Bakhtawer Bilal
Aug 09, 2012 12:32pm
@Ahmed Butt, I would say you wrote very nice, reflecting my mind; except the last sentence. You tainted, an otherwise well written comment.
Irfan Hussain
Aug 09, 2012 12:37pm
It wasn't Zia ul Haq alone who messed up everything - his allies most importantly Jamaat Islami is equally to be blamed
Farq
Aug 09, 2012 12:40pm
Old days always look good and if you compare with new you feel bad about present this is pychology of human 1960 and 1970 was the worst days. In 60s there was only city urban city ion pakistan which is KARACHI Today LAHORE ISLAMABAD MULTAN PESHWAR have Urban society and going stronger day by day. Sari baat Pakistani qoume NA SHUKREE hay har wat roteee rehtee hay SHUKAR nahin kartay khudaa ka boht qoumeon say behtar hay Pakistan
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 12:43pm
Unfortunately, not in our life time.
Shoyeb
Aug 09, 2012 12:45pm
Dear Admin: Why dont you post my commnets. :(
Rashid
Aug 09, 2012 12:46pm
Very nicely done Slight bias towards weed, wink wink But nicely done none the less
Siddiqui
Aug 09, 2012 12:47pm
2 points: 1) Zia is not the only one to blame. Read Stanley Wolpert's Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan and you will realize that aggressive Islamic Nationalism and anti-indian/anti-american emotions were first promoted by Bhutto for his political gains. He also was the first to start arming rebels in Afghanistan. 2) Some conservatism was bound to creep in society as the lower-middle class got more money, moved from villages to cities, developed into the conservative middle class we see today, and couldn't reconcile to the secular lifestyle prevalent within elites in city public life that is portrayed in the picture above. The way to counter this creeping conservatism in new middle class would've been enlightened education in schools and having enlightened role models and opinion leaders like Faiz, Jalib etc to guide the masses. First factor didn't happen bue to bad governance and second factor was marginalized by Zia government. Sadly i don't think Pakistan is going back to that tolerant society any time soon.... going back will need a major struggle and grass roots movement and the liberals don't have the stomach for such a struggle.
Magister Ludi
Aug 09, 2012 01:04pm
Zia came, he saw and he destroyed!
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 01:06pm
True, even in normal progression of life, people like to revisit the past through the memory lane. No matter what, the past always brings back some sweet memories that make our hearts ach. However, in Pakistan's case, the future makes me much sadder because of what I see on the horizon and the days of darkness that are yet to come.
Salim Langda
Aug 09, 2012 01:08pm
Are you kidding?: A special stamp released by the government of Pakistan to mark the centenary of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Karachi (1978).
Ali
Aug 09, 2012 01:08pm
The prohibition laws enacted by Bhutto were 'the' irreversible damage. All the bars, clubs and hotel lobbies were deserted and that was the beginning of an end.
shams
Aug 09, 2012 01:08pm
NFP sir Great job ur series of also pakistan remind us that pakistan was some where ago a not less then london and dubai,all the way u done the nyc work but at the end u remain us that if the Great leader not hanged then we are the Great nation
Nayab Babar
Aug 09, 2012 01:16pm
Fair enough, and I do agree with you that our society has become an extremist one that doesn't believe in thinking and retrospecting. Having said that though there is nothing wrong with justifying actions through Quran and hadith if done correctly. Although the hypocrites in our society use this to do a lot of retarded shit. In it's essence, this SHOULD be the correct methodology of doing things. My point is, the main things wrong with our society are lack of knowledge of Islam, and lack of sincerity of applying the true Islam in it's essence. Moderation is a very strong and important point in Islam, as is clear in the Hadiths.
dr shakeel
Aug 09, 2012 01:29pm
it is the result of population explosion, religious hypocrisy, militant outfits, half-baked religious scholars. And this above all:PAK ARMY's intereference in all walks of pakistani civil life from religion to politics to cinema. thanks to pakistani nation which more than gladly accepted every incoming tinpot dictator as a savior.
Umer S
Aug 09, 2012 01:32pm
...and who put him into power? Western involvement in the destruction of Pakistan is very clear. A lot of people don't agree with this view. Take a step back and look a the bigger picture.
Babar Khan
Aug 09, 2012 01:48pm
I studied at St. patricks in the late 60s. That school gave me the foundation to go on and study at the most elite Universities in the world and have a successful career in science and technology. The ability to think freely and reason, taught at that school by many great teachers was a critical piece of this foundation. My many christian friends at St.Patrick's High School were as patriotic and Pakistani as anyone in Pakistan. It is tragic to think about what has happened to the minority communities in pakistan and what we, the majority, have done to our own values. As someone said in these comments, we need to bring that Pakistan and that religion back. My hope is that the youth of today will rise to the challenge and fix what my generation has destroyed.
Zakir
Aug 09, 2012 01:50pm
Zia ... evil spirit
Rashid
Aug 09, 2012 01:51pm
NFP great job again. Guys let's get back our Pakistan, be progressive and moderate and hope one day we will reach there.
@kakhangandapur
Aug 09, 2012 01:58pm
Agree with Mr Paracha on many accounts but the public display of liquor and the making of an X-rated film is not something to be proud of. Everybody has the right to do whatever he feels like but there should be some decency and limits in public display.
AMK
Aug 10, 2012 03:23am
Let me rephrase a common saying...Decency is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't want to see something that's your preogative but let the other adults decide for themselves what they want to see.
@Daniyal8
Aug 09, 2012 02:01pm
Pre-Zia Pakistan was beautiful. Zia destroyed everything, he's the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan.
Dani
Aug 09, 2012 02:02pm
Pre-Zia Pakistan was beautiful. Zia destroyed everything, he's the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan.
sanaullah bugti
Aug 09, 2012 02:10pm
Pakistan used to be quite different as far as i remember even in 90s. going back to 70s...pakistan used to be much different than it is now! if Pakistan had progressed with the same pace, i am sure Karachi could have become one of the Olympic destinations :(
G Ali
Aug 09, 2012 02:16pm
I Agree, It was the "we will eat grass to get the bomb" mentality that got us into this. Zia then took it further. Ab hum piyaz bhi kha rahay hain aur danday bhi.
Nauman
Aug 09, 2012 02:26pm
The people who witnessed all this are still with us either in form of our parents, relatives or so on. We are the ones (people in 20s) who have witnessed the downfall. Imagine what we are preparing for our young generation. An unleashed jungle where only skill for survival is to leave the country or suffer, Thanks Paracha for sharing all this !!!
kumaarsauraj
Aug 09, 2012 02:28pm
"An intriguing June 1971 photograph of a West Pakistani soldier searching a East Pakistani Bengali in Dhaka (the former capital of East Pakistan). " The soldier is not 'searching' the man, he is verifying if that Bengali man is a Hindu or a Muslim. He is checking if he is circumcised or not.
Yawar
Aug 09, 2012 02:28pm
that is right...blame the west for our downfall...an easy way to remove the load off our shoulders
farooq
Aug 09, 2012 02:41pm
Well Zia wasnt the only one, the nationalisation destroyed Pakistan's industrial backbone, i have heard instances where child of poor people used to mock children of well-off class muttering that you will be our slaves once our poor parents take over your resources. The poor people thought they can gather wealth and prosperity, little did they know they were pawns used to grasp power and even now "bhutto" sells like hot cake( the poor still have bhuttos name as a mental freeze), which would bring the very man himself shame after realising that his name is still being used without questioning the very fact that none of the people to today have anything common in principle, while some were his fiercest crictics. back in the day, but are with PPP ah, i wonder what the NFP's of the future would write, on how the era of 90's ending went to musharraf's till 2008 and present. I really pity the future generations to come.
Rahul
Aug 09, 2012 02:43pm
Here in it lies the flaw, Pakistan was established as a religious entity, with leadership having no faith in democracy, what u r seeing now was bound to happen, even Maulana A K Azad said this in 1947, check out you tube.
Imran A.
Aug 09, 2012 02:43pm
Zia invited Saudi Arabia extremism to our country. Zia is dead but Saudi still continues to influence our lives. We need a hero that will break us from the shackles of Islam enforced by Saudis. We were simple people with good social and family values. Now we have lost our moral values but are only strong in salat and fasting. Allah what sins have we done that we ended up becoming hypocrites?
Sohail
Aug 09, 2012 02:46pm
Thanx to our unscrupulous-military, our ever for-sale-judiciary and to our hypocrite-merchants-of-Islam for the current status of Pakistan.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 02:46pm
Pakistan need a Kamal Atta turk type leader, who save Turkey from Mullahism. I pray and wish that happen, but chances are very remote. As always it is in Allah's hands and HE knows what is happening using HIS name.
Lakhkar Khan
Aug 09, 2012 02:50pm
I know you are trying to be sarcastic/funny. Weapons are the culture of that region. No one forced anyone to change his/her faith. Anyone here ever been to Tribal region (Karkhane in particular) will tell you there are non-Muslims live there still doing businesses. Back in the days, you could walk down the street or Peshawar, or any city in Pakistan, without the fear or getting mugged. I remember hanging out in Peshawar Saddar area till 3AM with friends. Anyone visited that city knows the nightlife of Golden Star and Silver Star cafes. We may don't live long enough to see it but that era will come back. No more Zia and his ilk.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 02:55pm
Agreed, The faith is between man and his GOD. No one should come in between HIM and HIS creation, otherwise unfortunatley I have to say with heavey heart that look at today's Pakistan. It is a sign of IBRAT for those who have eyes. Prophet of Allah(pbuh) came to make people Muslims, today's mullah take pride making everyone non Muslim. what a contrast and worst part is using HIS name.
Raj
Aug 09, 2012 03:01pm
A young Pakistani woman sitting on her motorbike in the Soldier Bazzar area of Karachi (1969). I wonder whether that girl is a muslim. I wish and hope the Pakistan get back to its old glory , liberty, friendliness and become a friendly nation with India, so that citizens of both countries can freely visit each other. A genuine peace and freidnly treatly between Pakistan and India can save thousands of lives, billions of dollars in arms, reduce unemployment, disband terrorist organisations, and create a true democracy for the welfare of its people.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 03:06pm
Cyrus: Jewish is a faith not nationality. Moses was an Arab, like Abraham , Isaac, and all the prophets who appeaded in the Middle east. Islam is a most beautiful and peace ful religon when practiced not used, as what is happening in most countiries. If you study Islam and Laws of Sharia you will be amazed how much responsibilties rulers have to meet to enforce the punishment. Unfortunatley they do not want to fullfill their duties and use the religion instead of following and practicing the true faith.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 03:09pm
Piracha Shib :Aap ne dil kay wo tar cher diye hain, jin aab sirf khoon behta hai.
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 03:09pm
One can still see Zia in Jamat e Islami.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 03:13pm
No: Love is needed to win the hearts. "Love for all hatered for None".
Asif Khan
Aug 09, 2012 03:14pm
A picture is worth a thousand words. But, every picture posted here is worth a million. It shows how decandent and decayed our great nation has become. I don't see any future unless a massive de-radicalizaton.
M N Syed
Aug 09, 2012 03:17pm
Ayoob Khan period was most glorious as seen in picture. Down fall started after his departure.The momentum gained in his period continued for next ten years and finally ended when Zia ul Haq jumped into Afghanistan by creating jihadi forces to contain communism and gain US favour to prolong his rule. To return to peaceful progressive Pakistan, some body has to clean the slate completely and start rewriting from the beginning.In side forces are incapable some one wll have to do it from out side.
Laila Sultan
Aug 09, 2012 03:17pm
Most probably the girl on the bike is Zorastian. Till the late 1970s, there used to be a large Zorastrian community residing in Karachi's Soldier Bazar area where this picture was taken. However, the young girls in the swimming pool are Muslim. I know because my college used to take part in these competitions which took place, i think, at the pool of the Karachi Sports Complex in the KDA area opposite Karachi's National Stadium.  The competitions were open to public but not a single episode of harassment or mullah intervention that I remember. It was all perfectly normal, healthy and fun. Nobody's faith was questioned or threatened.  
Yawar
Aug 09, 2012 03:23pm
One cannot argue against a statement that the law of Allah should govern Pakistan. However, in Pakistan we have thousands of groups that interpret Allah's law differently and each group claims that "only their interpretation is correct and all other interpretations are wrong." Moreover, we have groups like the TTP that want to force their interpretation on the rest of the population on gunpoint. So rather than individuals I hold this mindset as being responsible for taking us from where we were to where we are.
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 03:24pm
Yes, I may add he was the most honest President Pakistan ever had. But I also remember with sorrow when people of Pakistan rejected this great man and street of Pakistan calling him dog. How shameful for us, and now you see what kind of leadership and politions we have?
Sajjad
Aug 09, 2012 03:25pm
the deterioration started from Bhutto era and never really stopped. God Help Us All
Imran
Aug 09, 2012 03:30pm
More Please !!!
s7786
Aug 09, 2012 03:34pm
Farq: I do not know what fantasy you are living in. Those days you can go any time of night or day in any city of Pakistan without fear of being blown up. All the country was peaceful and the crime was very low. Wake up you need lot of coffee or chai y friend.
Kiwi/Paki
Aug 09, 2012 03:34pm
Being a Pakistani it makes me extremely sad to see what is happening in our country but the worst thing is that I feel like it is the beginning of what we had sowed in the past. The future looks more bleak than the current situation and if the things carry on like this, one day we will be remembering present days and will call them good old days.
Karachi Wala
Aug 09, 2012 03:42pm
True. Zardari and Co are no less currupt then N-Leauge but what is happening in today's Pakistan, the credit must be given to where it belogs. The winner by a distance is "Zia-iyyat"
Farhan
Aug 10, 2012 10:15am
Great pictures - but let's be honest to ourselves and admit that the first stone in this landslide was cast by none other than Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. He is the one who institutionalized discrimination against minorities and, your greatest irritant, banned alcohol in Pakistan.
haris
Aug 09, 2012 03:43pm
Cyrus.... kindly study islam and then come up with such (irrelevant to the topic) comments.
Kailash
Aug 09, 2012 03:47pm
Wow nice pics...i am indian and want to visit in this old pakistan, but not in current situation
Subhan
Aug 09, 2012 03:58pm
Farq you do know you're sounding like a crank, don't you?
Krish
Aug 09, 2012 04:17pm
NFP may be well meaning - lessons to be learnt from contemporary history, but one cannot turn the CLOCK BACK ! Pakistanis need to look forward, and take some bold steps, and acknowledge that they are part of the sub-continent, and primarily for the sake of its own population.
Sali (US)
Aug 09, 2012 04:21pm
60S were the best times. Pakistan made the most progress until so called democracy and PPP showed up. Two parties helping to split Pakistan and starting the down fall, Zia radicalized but the economic and institutions were already going downhill after 1970. I grew up in 60s in Karachi and travelled around the country with my parents every summer. I could never bring my kids to Pakistan and let them see what I enjoyed as a kid. What an unfortunate and sad story. I hope new generation takes the Pakistan back.
ghaleezguftar
Aug 09, 2012 04:21pm
and 3 governments of PPP, you and DAWN and majority of Pakistan who loved it that way couldnt reconstruct it! what a shame!
@Daniyal8
Aug 09, 2012 04:24pm
Ayub was ruling Pakistan in 1967. Not Zia. Women were not even allowed to appear on TV without Dupatta in Zia era. Let alone X rated movies.
Magister Ludi
Aug 09, 2012 04:33pm
Zia a good man? Yes, by stealing 200 million dollars from the Afghan war.
Aman Ki Asha
Aug 09, 2012 04:40pm
subtlety is clearly not your strong suit.
wali
Aug 09, 2012 04:48pm
beautiful !!!! I never knew my pakistani had good history as well. Inshallah we will bring it back . INSHALLAH
Shahid
Aug 09, 2012 04:53pm
I totally agree with you bro.
Junaid
Aug 09, 2012 04:54pm
I hv tears in eyes, can't say anything
abdul jaffar khan
Aug 09, 2012 04:57pm
This is what caused change in pakistan...just blame india for all bad act done and being done! Fools like you will definitely destroy what is remaining....wait another 10 to 15 years!!!! Please learn to admit and accept the mistakes done by rules in pakistan and the creator of pakistan. We would have been in good progressive if we remain part of India. millions of life, infrastructure, economy were destroyed in process of getting pakistan!!!!! Shame on those people who still believe in such a hypocracy.
Ali
Aug 09, 2012 04:57pm
We have lost the great treasure of liberalism and though we have lost the road to success. we are travelling in the backward direction
G.a
Aug 09, 2012 05:03pm
Gen. Zia's burial site is known as 'Jabra Chowk'. That is the respect he gets for his 11-year misrule. What a pity.
geekay09
Aug 09, 2012 05:10pm
Can nostalgia bring the change? The trouble is in trusting the politicians and leaving everything with them. In present case, Imran may be trusted followed by the same two nationalist parties to rescue Pakistan. The salvation lies in getting together to dismantle the dictates of religious parties. Should there not be new groups promoting the kind of values that you see in these pictures. So, first step has to form such new groups which advocate contrary values to the values advocated by current groups who are ever so visible in Pakistan. At the moment, by not organising yourself, nostalgia seekers of Dawn have given the ground to the hardliners. One has to begin somewhere - on roads(rallies), on TV etc(debating your values against others) in print media(by writing blogs etc). So, big question will remain until Pakistan's new generation form new societies/groups advocating these values?
Shams
Aug 09, 2012 05:12pm
Who Great leader Bhutto, Are u serious. the man that devided the country becuase he could not face defete?
Ali hassan
Aug 09, 2012 05:20pm
Zia was the best thing that ever happened to Pakistan and don't you infidels forget that.He was the one who made Pakistan the great country we are today.The whore world only talks about Pakstan...we are the greatest in the whole world and nobody shud forget tha....Jea Pakistan....Jea Zia..
Shiraz
Aug 10, 2012 10:07am
I feel so sorry about the condition of Pakistan, a nation which fell from sky to the immeasurable depths. This nation should never forgive General Zia. I pray for this country. ~ From India
DesiMunda
Aug 09, 2012 05:41pm
My maternal grandfather migrated to India from Rawalpindi post Independence riots. I have some strange association with Pakistan in my heart. A very fond and cordial sense of attachment. I love Pakistani music. I feel Ustad Nusrat's voice was in touch with the Almighty. Being a hindu, I also have great fear about how would I be treated if I ever visited Pakistan. I know it is all nonsense. Yours is a culturally rich society. Now looking at these pictures, it must pain the majority of Pakistani society to see growing influence of hard-liners. Our politicians and army goons have successfully destroyed what could have been a great two nations working together. Sometimes I read comments of younger generation on such discussion boards. So much distrust, so much mutual hatred - it pains me.
PiroShah
Aug 09, 2012 05:42pm
Yes better than Somalia, Uganda, Mali
Changazi
Aug 09, 2012 05:44pm
Zia was an American and Saudi Pupet...for your correction please
Maaz
Aug 09, 2012 05:49pm
Not really, Islam has been created as a complete way of life, the shariah system worked all those years ago, it can work now, if implemented with sincerity. Just because some people want secularism doesnt mean that the rest support it as well.
Ibrahim
Aug 10, 2012 10:05am
First of all I'd appreciate the good work but I feel like you are too obsessed with Alcohol I guess. No wonder Pakistan had a tremendous growth back then but it had nothing to do with alcohol as far as I know :)
mmk
Aug 09, 2012 06:02pm
Gone with the wind
AHA
Aug 09, 2012 06:08pm
Don't we already have shariah system in Pakistan where rape victims are thrown behind bars, while the perpetrators go free. We have the Blasphemy laws hanging like a sword on the heads of all minorities. And of course we have different groups of Muslims killing each other because ‘my shariah is better than yours’. No thanks, I have had enough of shariah already..
SA.
Aug 09, 2012 06:14pm
Brilliant. Thank-you so much for this!
indian
Aug 09, 2012 06:23pm
I shall pray to my god today for you. I shall pray that you get what you want. Ameen!
Alan
Aug 09, 2012 06:49pm
I hope NFP realizes that the "intriguing picture" is essentially due to the genocide against non-Muslims in 1971.
Roohi Danish Ali
Aug 09, 2012 06:55pm
NFP is one of the most enigmatic and fascinating columnists to come out of Pakistan. He maybe controversial, being both loved and loathed in equal measure by large numbers of readers today, but it is in the future that this guy, who, even though still hadn't written a book yet, his writings in Dawn and Dawn.Com will be treated as treasures of info. Whenever there will be talk about either political and social satire or analysis of modern history of the region, I have a feeling he will be the most referenced and revered writers among the future generations. Well done NFP, for always going against the tide with passion, reason and humor. May Allah grant you more power. Amen.
Naved
Aug 09, 2012 06:56pm
I was born and raised in karachi, a very lively, vibrant and colorful city. I still remember travelling lond distances on bicycle and pulic buses with my friends. Going from gulberg to North Nazimabad was a daily routine without any fear of anything. Does anyone remember "Walk A Cause", a special walk of 10KMs organized many times during 1985 to 90 to support construction of kidney centre. People from every walk of life used to participate in it with their families and friends, in today's Pakistan u cant even imagine having such a thing. ALAS, what have we done to ourselves.
Yawar
Aug 09, 2012 07:01pm
He does. Thus the word "intriguing image." He's a master of word-play.
Yawar
Aug 09, 2012 07:11pm
Hogwash. This pic appeared in LIFE magazine. It's a Pakistani soldier checking if the man ... never mind. I am a proud Pakistani but I am not a chicken like you who will lie to defend the indefensible.
Mohammed
Aug 09, 2012 07:13pm
I agree that overall the law and order situation was much better in the 1960's, however social divisions were rife becasue of uneven economic growth under Ayub. The main point I was making is that some sections are to quick blame religion/religous parties for our problems. The picture in reality is much more complex. The situation in Karachi deteriorated in the 1980's because of ethnic (secualr) tensions and the inlux of drugs and refugees from Afghanistan. It just so happend this coincided with an age of religous revival globally, where certain forces were bolstered to fight communism. We should also be wary of nostalgia, religous division has always existed. Many seem to have forgotten the 1953 Lahore riots which led to martial law.
Shilpa
Aug 09, 2012 07:24pm
Awesome NFP. U r my fav. Nice collection of pictures from pre zia era...
Shilpa
Aug 09, 2012 07:28pm
Awesome NFP. I wish India had a news person like u to awaken the masses.
RAHMAT
Aug 09, 2012 07:29pm
WEAK UP IDIOT...
Jayakumar
Aug 09, 2012 07:41pm
Thanks Mr Nadeem, These pictures & words make me,an indian feel own ness.As if i could say our own Pakistan....
sk yadav
Aug 09, 2012 07:56pm
what next?plz stop crying,blaming,Zia ,ZAB finger pointing.SABAR RAKHO and keep doing what is right.ALL IS WELL.We neighbours Indians wish you luck.
imad
Aug 09, 2012 07:59pm
stole the words out of my mouth
imad
Aug 09, 2012 08:03pm
spread the word, my good friend, spread the word.
oakville1958
Aug 09, 2012 08:08pm
Most amazing walk in the memory lane - just loved looking at the pictures. I left Pakistan in 1976 and while i could relate to a lot of things that were shown in the pictures, I think things started going south in the 1980's. While we can blame Zia or whoever else for this downward slope, I think the problem is universal. While material progress is made in several industrialized countries and even third world countries, tension, fear, anger, hatred, etc. has taken birth globally. In no country will you find celebrities traveling like Jackie Kennedy and Ayub Khan did in the mid 60's. Even India, with everything going in their favour, has internal problems - that could be comparable to what we are experiencing in Pakistan. Like I have said in my previous comments, our focus is changing and we are becoming more materialistic. To achieve material success and to "enjoy" life, we are willing to forgo our values, our principles and our conscience. And when we still don't get that "happiness", we continue to go on the wrong path. And, let me assure you - this insanity is widespread globally. I have been in Canada and trust me when I say this, I have seen the same change here as well. The whole world is heading in the wrong direction - don't let anybody tell you it is only restricted to Pakistan.
imad
Aug 09, 2012 08:09pm
I had no idea Henry Kissinger spoke such poor English.
Chintu
Aug 09, 2012 08:29pm
Brilliant photos and sensible comments. . . mostly. What then are the chances that Pakistan will ever get back to such liberal days? Gandhi Park in Karachi and Imran/Gavaskar together for an advt........ awesome. Geat work NFP sahib.
Zen
Aug 09, 2012 08:31pm
You are correct. Sharia is not a predetermined set of rules issued by Allah. It is a collection of norms and rules represented in both the Quran and Sunnah. In other words it is interpreted very differently from culture to culture. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply an uneducated moron. As the TTP has demonstrated their proposed Sharia is one of strict Islam as fashioned in Afghanistan, something every Pakistani should dread and fear. Just look at the status of women across the borders. Their status is improved in Pakistan but far from removed from the hardline treatment they receive in Afghanistan. This is just another reason why TTP's claim of wanting Sharia as an act of Allah is pure BS, and Pakistanies should ask themselves if driving our country into the ground is worth it for the sake of a law we are not required to practice.
Yasa Ali Changezi
Aug 09, 2012 08:43pm
My elder brother sitting besides me and tears welled his eyes with such golden remembrance once upon a time Pakistan use to be ...
BEA
Aug 09, 2012 08:43pm
They are all to blame they all had a hand in bringing Pakistan to its knees i am shocked cannot believe that this was Pakistan.
BEA
Aug 09, 2012 08:45pm
the mullahs again cannot leave anything alone.
BEA
Aug 09, 2012 08:52pm
Farrukh get your head out off your backside so you would have Pakistan like it is now lawless,its people starved of food bombs blasts every day innocent people dead the mad mullahs incharge no one in controle. what more can i say you are an idiot.
ahmed
Aug 09, 2012 08:54pm
GREAT ARTICLE...AND THEN ISLAMIZATION CHANGED EVERYTHING... MADE US FROM HUMANS INTO ANIMALS!
Syed
Aug 09, 2012 08:58pm
I was not born in Pakistan, infact only 5 years of my life have been spent in Pakistan, but then it makes you wonder, how did it all comes to this? from a golden state with so much potential to one of the most dangerous states in the world, and it's not even at war, how can a "democratic" state be that unstable? your mind just hit the wall everytime you think about it.
Asher
Aug 09, 2012 09:11pm
True!! Started by Bhutto and all other who came after him till today they brutally destroyed Pakistan.I am a christian born and lived in Pakistan for 38 years & it was my hearts desire that I should be called a Pakistani not minority. You know sometimes it hurts a lot. Pakistan is still there but people of Pakistan are changed.
Nick
Aug 09, 2012 09:20pm
I think the reason why we see all that progress in the early time is cuz people were sincere to their country. They had moral and ethical values. The "ruling" dynasty, the PPP, Jamat, MQM, and others, were not strong enough or formed to takeover the country. If anyone to blame for all this, it is the political parties. They have treated Pakistan like their property. They have, and now their younger generartion, are still doing it and will keep on doing it. They believe in that divide and conquer rule and have applied it successfully so far. Divide the masses along whatever line, religion, color, language, etc and conquer them with your own loyals. This was the case in South Africa, where white minority ruled the majority blacks. Here the politicians apply the same technique while lining their pockets with Pakistani's people wealth. Make people suffer for basic necessities so they will strugle just to be alive and wouldn't raise their voice against them or God forbid do something intellectual and figure out where they are headed and where they want to go. Exactly what kind of business does Zardari does to make them a billionere? Same goes for other groups and their leaders.
Nick
Aug 09, 2012 09:20pm
Continue from above... Further all the political groups cave in to foreign interests and forgo their national interest, just to get favors and money. Military is not pious either. When the big wig in military saw what all the other politicians are doing and getting away with it, they also joined the gravy traing and start robbing Pakistan. Unfortunately, all this has blurred the vision of today's youth. All they see is $ in their eyes and a house in posh area and a late model car. They will take any route, as long as it is easy to get their dream. For Pakistan to wake up, they need to hate the system, hate the wealth, hate status quo and forge their own destiny.
umair
Aug 09, 2012 09:24pm
This is all great stuff reminding us of Pakistan's Greatness. Can Dawn also spotlight on (in a string of articles/pictures like this) of what has become of Pakistan.
Al Fatmi
Aug 09, 2012 09:33pm
You sound like a true & genuine red blooded bigot...a product of Zia era...get a life dear
S. A. M.
Aug 09, 2012 09:35pm
A person is known by the company he keeps
Imran
Aug 09, 2012 09:56pm
who is stopping you to join india now.This is our country now right or wrong.
Ahmed
Aug 09, 2012 10:29pm
Easy to blame every thing on Zia or the Mullahs, just like it is easy to blame on India, US, CIA, Mossad, RAW, etc....Zia did not corrupted Pakistanis. Pakistanis theirselve to be balmed for all the ills of current Pakistan...as usual we are good at finding problems and blaming the past....I am not fan of Zia but what did so called liberals have done...we had BB 2 times, mr.blessed (N) Shareef 2 time and now full time Mr. Z...oooks like this will run in perpetuality...
AHA
Aug 09, 2012 10:34pm
I studied at St. patricks too. Fond memories. The Christians back then were just another group of Pakistanis. I had the finest quality education there, which laid the fundation for my higher education in the years ahead. The Christain institute gave me so much in Pakistan, and what do I have to give them back in return??? I bow my head in shame.
Abdul
Aug 09, 2012 10:38pm
dont worry bro..... Just try to look at old pictures of India also :)
Abdul
Aug 09, 2012 10:41pm
I think instead of crying about the past and blaming Zia and Islam and everything else , we should look at the present. We should live in the present and should try to find the solutions of the current issues. Zia or Islam did not make each and every body in this country a corrupt person. Now from the street hawker to the top management , almost everybody is corrupt. One person cannot do this. We all are to blame for that. Lets change ourselves and then try to cahnge positively what is around us. Its of no use to cry of spilt milk.
J.S.Hussain
Aug 09, 2012 10:41pm
Great! Piracha Sahib,
Asma Aejaz
Aug 09, 2012 11:12pm
Wish we could have those days back...
murad
Aug 09, 2012 11:14pm
First of all islam has nothing to do with our failures. The so called liberals who are incompetent themselves try to find the excuses for their failures
Omer
Aug 09, 2012 11:15pm
The whole world is talking about Pakistan but not in a positive way you nincompoop.
Ghazanfar Aly Khan
Aug 09, 2012 11:32pm
Wonder where did we go wrong ?
Pervaiz
Aug 09, 2012 11:32pm
I wonder why Bhutto's picture not added. He brought change to Pakistan.
Omar
Aug 09, 2012 11:33pm
late 50s till perhaps late 60s, but definitely not the 70s. Bhuttos socialist experiment failed as he destroyed education institutions and business corporations in order to nationalize them. The current trend of religious bigotry and extremism can be traced right back to his era when he declared ahmadis as non muslims and put restrictions on their employment and advancement. Zia definitely lit the fire from the ambers of previos era but it was bhutto who had started it all.
J A
Aug 09, 2012 11:40pm
khali rootay raho, karo kuch bhi nahein. Election per phir jiyay bhutto ker key zardari ko he vote do gay.
Fahad
Aug 10, 2012 10:43am
The violence and real destruction of pakistan began when musharraf took U turn and changed the policies of the former rulers, which were being followed since 1970s to 2000.
syed
Aug 10, 2012 12:09am
EXCELLENT. THIS WAS THE REAL PAKISTAN. THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH LOVING AND PEACEFUL NATION WE ARE. IF ONLY ZIA HAD NOT COME, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SO FAR MORE DEVELOPED. BEFORE ZIA, OUR TOURISM WAS FLOURISHING, OUR INDUSTRIES WERE FLOURISHING, OUR ECONOMY WAS THRIVING......BUT THEN , THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN.....ISLAMIST REGIME,PESSIMIST AND NARROW MINDED REGIME TOOK PAKISTAN A CENTURY BACK. TODAY, WITH ZERO TOURISM, ZERO FOREIGN INVESTMENT, RISING TERRORISM AND POVERTY, PAKISTAN STANDS NOWHERE CLOSE TO EVEN BEING CALLED A DEVELOPING NATION. HOWEVER, WE CAN STILL CHANGE OUR DESTINY. WE CAN STILL GET BACK THE 'OLD PAKISTAN'. WE JUST NEED A TRUE POLITICAL COMMITMENT. WE NEED TO WITHDRAW OUR SUPPORT FROM THE SO-CALLED 'AFGHAN WAR' . USA STARTED IT, FROM WHERE DID IT BECAME 'OUR' WAR. ? TALIBAN ARE BOMBING PAKISTAN BECAUSE WE SUPPORT AMERICA. ONCE WE STOP SUPPORTING AMERICA OUR WAR WITH TALIBAN WILL END. THEN, OUR MAIN BUDGET ALLOCATION NEED TO MOVE FROM DEFENCE TOWARDS EDUCATION, AND CREATING MORE JOBS. EDUCATION IS ONE THING THAT TAKES YOUR COUNTRY FORWARD, NOT MILITARY. AND THIS IS 21 ST CENTURY , HERE THE WARS WILL BE IN THE FIELD OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE, NOT IN THE BATTLEFIELD TO OCCUPY SOME LANDS !
Iftikhar Ahmed
Aug 10, 2012 12:23am
Exactly right.This soldier is actually checking whether this Bengali"Pakistani"is circumcised or not.Once in a while if someone turned out to be non-circumcised,he was either shot on the spot (suspected as Hindu infiltrator)or taken to jail if he was lucky enough.This kind of inhuman and humiliating treatment of Bengalis fueled the intense hatred toward Pakistan.If you look at this picture even today with this perspective,it will disgust you.
syed
Aug 10, 2012 12:31am
Thanks for sharing these pictures they reminded me of my beautiful country Pakistan. I remember, when returning back from school St.Parick's High School I used to look at Mazar-e-Quaid at that time it was under construction. What a beautiful country it was, memories of all those beautiful cities Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshwar, even small cities like Kotri and Hyderabad were so beautiful. At that time nobody knew that all will change so quickly, in fact at that time Pakistan was one of the best country in that part of the world. PPP is responsible for initiating the mess through nationalization of businesses, schools and the introduction of large scale corruption, then came Zia-ul-Haq who went a step further and completely destroyed the fabric of our society. People of Pakistan must realize and should never vote for PPP and those who are exploiting our religion for their political motives.
Iqbal khan
Aug 10, 2012 12:33am
Go live in Afghanistan.
SAM
Aug 10, 2012 12:55am
Zia Darling screwed up everything and every one.... Enjoy New Pakistan, courtesy Pakistan Military and American CIA.
Dehwar
Aug 10, 2012 01:17am
It is so amazing to see pictures of the old times, the most surprising thing is that how come he gets all those pictures and where from. For me the most interesting picture of that time is of Layton road Qurtta with trees on both sides of the road. In mid fifties I used to live in Quetta when I was about 10 years old and used to pass through this road. There used to be large trees on both sides of the road and their branches used to meet at the top, so the sun light wouldn’t pass through them and at night thousands birds used to land on the branches and every morning a group of sanitary workers start cleaning the road from those bird droppings and it used to take them hours to clean the whole road. There was hardly any traffic; the main transport used to be horse drawn carriages called tongas. Governor house is located on this road and wall around it was made of wood and a line of trees lined all around. After the devastating earth quack of 1935 the whole city was almost destroyed and the British rulers built the whole city and to some observers they built it in exactly in the shape of London, and it remained the most clean and beautiful city even after creation of Pakistan, now it is almost a slum. After seeing the picture of the girl on the bike I remember when in 1965 I moved to Karachi there was a fashion of miniskirts in Europe so in sadder area there use to a population of probably Goa Christians and they also used to wear miniskirts and it has never been a surprise for the local Muslim population.
saleem
Aug 10, 2012 01:26am
The Ahmed Khan who was going to drive his first Valiant is most prabably an infidel now and not allowed to exist in this land of the "pure" anymore.
saleem
Aug 10, 2012 01:27am
r u kidding or are a retard?
Adam
Aug 10, 2012 01:41am
Farrukh my fellow countryman, we still have X-rated films hovering around all over Pakistan,hashish is still being sold in every district and hotels are still open during Ramadan. Only difference is that now we do it in completely shameful secrecy while back then we were mature and tolerant enough to not clamp down on such issues. Pakistan today produces 3 kinds of people, the first are tolerant and open minded like the N.F.P(whom I might add are in dangerously low quantities),the second are hypocrites(of which almost all Pakistanis are today) hypocrites like Zia and Amir Liaqat,selfishly pursuing their own gains and the third of which are blind sheep like yourself who've adopted this holier than thou attitude and believe all the country's ills are brought upon by some conspiracy or the other. What pains me is that our society is doing nothing about this other than fleeing the country and then speaking their heart out on forums like these.
Bharat
Aug 10, 2012 01:48am
I an Indian by birth, would love to visit Pakistan. This is the place of our ancient culture. Peshawer was Pushkalawati, Kandahar was ancient Gandhar. In my younger days I used to go to Bombay Central station on my way to Rajasthan and would see Frontier Mail on adjoining platform from Bombay to Peshawer and I dreamed of travelling on this train----but alas now this day will never come.
Basil
Aug 10, 2012 01:49am
This actually made me cry...
Shabir
Aug 10, 2012 02:00am
In all these we forget that the beginning came when Jinnbah was killed. That was wrong moral route take early in our history.
Muneer -
Aug 10, 2012 02:03am
Sad but true Pakistan is now in a downward spiral....thanks to our selfish rulers
Asif
Aug 10, 2012 02:23am
Dont visit Pakistan. BRRRRRHHHUUUAAAAA!!!! Evil spirits live here.
Zeta
Aug 10, 2012 02:26am
PIA always had the best ads. sad to see it current state
feroze al abdullah
Aug 10, 2012 02:30am
Rightly analyized, it was bhutto who really destroyed Pakistan, disintegrated its very concept, nationalized industrial back bone by replacing with corrupt officers, this was the man who abrogated the constitution within four hours of its inception, became the first civilian Marshal law adminstrator, the rest is history it is really a shameful chapter in the history of Pakistan.
Shreky
Aug 10, 2012 02:42am
and Bhutto too...
Ibrahim
Aug 10, 2012 02:44am
Neither did i ! It seems that some of us have our own peculiar interpretation of the English language.
feroze al abdullah
Aug 10, 2012 02:45am
After Bhutto had destroyed pakistan and turned it into papistan, the rest was done by the pir sahib shareef, Could he honestly say WHAT HAPPENED TO THE $11.000,000,000. ( ELEVEN BILLION DOLLARS) that vanished from the coffer of State Bank , The money that was deposited by non resident pakistan, nor would anybody know on the fate of money collected in the name of " Mulk savaro kurz utaroo" or all that went into making of steel mills in saudia and Billions of Euros in company established in Europe. From the horses mouth Mr. shareef himself admits to the fact that when Bhutto nationalized ittefaq, shareef family was left with only the clothes on their body, what magic wand .?
nasir
Aug 10, 2012 02:57am
In next 50 years we will be what we were in 60's, that is if we invest in our kids now. Foreign entities are not dictating us how to bring up our children. For crying out loud we as parents are not even bothered to teach our children how to close doors or through our garbage. in the bin. May Allah guide Pakistanis.
Ozzi
Aug 10, 2012 03:12am
I could not agree more. If we want to name one country that harm pakistan the most , would be Saudi Arabia. They are the financier, and mother of all evils, specialy for muslims and perticularly for pakistan. With out their help Taliban could never sevive a day.
Abdullah
Aug 10, 2012 03:33am
The 3 biggest threats to Pakistan are extremism, liberalism and hypocrisy. In that order. All 3 must be cleaned up if progress is to be made. On a side note, I find it highly amusing that liberals harping on about religious hypocrisy pray to Allah to restore the alcohol and the night life of the good old days. May Allah restore common sense!
1277sachughtai
Aug 10, 2012 03:35am
NFP.......You make all of your reader Cry Again and Again. ZAB and Ziaulhaq have done geat damage to our nation. Both are responsible. ZAB.....halwar Qameez....people go to offices with dirty shalwar qameez.....Clubs closed.....Friday Holiday.....Land refoarms increased the units from 15,000 to 45,000......ziaulhaq....fake islamization....klashenkov culture/////heroine addiction....opium selling centres were closed.......drug use in every city.......mosques built through our kking....much room growth of madrassah....jehadi industry.....Naatkhan Industry.....producemore Naat Khan....Produce mre militants......Intolerance......role of minorities almost diminished.....mobile phone.....and capturing mobiles on the road.......and what not. We have been left behind 50 years. Abhi tau Balawal ko Bughto....phir deykhna.
Guest
Aug 10, 2012 03:37am
"GREAT ARTICLE...AND THEN ISLAMIZATION CHANGED EVERYTHING... MADE US FROM HUMANS INTO ANIMALS!" and your name is Ahmed. Did the coming of Islam into Arabia make them into animals. no the contrary. I do believe that religious tolerance has declined.
1277sachughtai
Aug 10, 2012 03:38am
some people live 100 BC......Read Growth and Evolution...world is changing at a fast speed. Put boats in the ship...otherwise disaster.
Sohni
Aug 10, 2012 03:39am
Zia ? Who Zia the one who created and invented " Talibanism" .........he is a scar on the name of Islam .In the contemporary world no one has damaged the image of Islam and Pakistan as much as he has done.
john
Aug 10, 2012 08:41am
"Did the coming of Islam into Arabia make them into animals?" theirs is a different story bro..they can pay people to just follow their ideals without doing much work..will that work in Afg or Pak? try imagining Arabia without the oil resources...how will its economy fare with most of the employable youth educated by mullah's and imam's alone.. how will your/any country produce enough food grains to support its population without using latest advances in science and technology...religions schools can work as food for thought they cannot be food for your stomach.. and when groups of people are hungry..it will be mob psychology at work
Ahsan
Aug 10, 2012 03:43am
Awsome... Salute to you sir...!!
M.Israr Qureshi
Aug 10, 2012 03:55am
will welcome you sir ! Pakistan is peacfull country see the circumstances gong on & our foreign policies is showing very flexiblity> +ve will come when everything will be alright eg.Sirilanka it was damage badly by Tamil tigers but everything is fine out there,Pakistani peoples have respect about indians 'we can change our friends but we can't change our neighbours' PEACE !!
R. Bhawani Prasad
Aug 10, 2012 04:05am
The golden era in Karachi ended in 1947. Before partition Karachi was a Hindu-majority city and Hindu-Muslim relationship (both of them being mostly Sindhi and the rest Gujarati-speaking) was excellent. Soon thanks to ethnic cleansing, Hindus were eradicated out of Karachi and Hyderabad. Soon it got worse because muhajirs from India moved in and they had scant respect for Sindhi culture and made strenuous efforts NOT to learn Sindhi, the local language. In the 1970s Sindhis started to reclaim their culture but were put down by the Pakistani Army, recently returned from Bangladesh where one of the prime duties the soldiers performed, as others have pointed out in this blog, was to look at the private parts of Bangladeshis to figure out their religion. Karachi has never recovered and and is now bringing down the rest of Pakistan.
Jon
Aug 10, 2012 04:14am
Dear Nadeem & Dawn personnel, Do your archives have some of these sepia tinted pics from India too? Do publish them. Have been nescient of any such efforts made by Indian journalists.
Nasir
Aug 10, 2012 04:34am
what a great creativity and artistic pakistan we saw in these pictures.... just WOW!!! Wish we had it back
shan
Aug 10, 2012 04:36am
who was ahmed khan plz elaborate
Sheeraz Nizamani
Aug 10, 2012 04:42am
Pictures are telling us the fact of truth behind the history.
Sheeraz Nizamani
Aug 10, 2012 04:49am
impressive Pictures which are telling us the fact of history behind the memories.
UAG
Aug 10, 2012 04:49am
Bro, I do, constantly. I am struck by how much livelier and fun India is for the generation growing up today, as compared to what it was for us, who grew up in the 70's and 80's.
Peace
Aug 10, 2012 04:50am
@Ali Hassan Are you serious Man??? Zia was the one who bought all Negativity in our society. Before him we used to practice religion to purify our souls now we use it to "Punish other People" particularly in form of 295 B and C (when we dig deep all most all cases are due to old rivalry and hate). He divided us in sects and ruled in the name of Islam with no Islam in him. He made us intolerant society, invited Afghan drug dealers and took heavy bribe to fight Afghan war etc. etc. I'm shocked to see that Zia still have Fans like Ali Hassan Please Pakistan wake up, we have to improve ourselves. Yes the whole blame can't put on Zia cuz all Nation followed and practiced his teachings on its own will and now after so many years still following Zia and his pathetic rules of division and religious chauvinism.
Khan
Aug 10, 2012 04:54am
these series of pictures shows convincingly that image of Pakistan when it was a symbol of progressto follow for other nations and countries...all over the world.
Wish
Aug 10, 2012 04:56am
Great work!
Leftist
Aug 10, 2012 04:57am
..........an then Bhutto happened !!!!!!
Osman Khairi
Aug 10, 2012 04:57am
Pls. do visit Pakistan! Not only will you love it but you will also be amazed at how similar it is to your beautiful country. Also, I assure you; you will be treated with IMMENSE love and affection, as all Indian citizens are. We may have gone astray (on the political front) but the average Pakistani has nothing but respect and admiration for all of you! And on a parting note, if you don't have a place to stay, message me. You are most welcome to stay with me. God bless!
Syed Muneer
Aug 10, 2012 05:03am
Three great brothers destroyed every thing : started by Ayub, furthered by Zia and finished by Mushraff Destruction at East Pakistan/ creation of Bangladesh --- credit goes to Ayub destruction of west Pakistan/ heroin/ extremism/ anarchy/sectarian rift , etc, --- credit goes to Zia Young brother Mush introduced suicide bombing and NRO (issuing certificate of good character to the characterless thieves in Pakistan !!!) THREE GREAT BROTHERS
Jalil
Aug 10, 2012 05:10am
To the point and exact. Ale-Saud used this soil to strengthen their rule in Gulf (so called Islamic World). Its not the West or US but Saudis.
Ali
Aug 10, 2012 05:23am
I think NFP should do a piece where he shows side-by-side comparison by posting "before and after" pictures. For e.g before: a clean shaved Junaid Jamshed dancing to the tunes of western music. Now: a scary dude with long beard, shalwar kameez and pargi etc
Ali
Aug 10, 2012 05:32am
We should not blame him. This is what he heard from molvi sahab :)
Guest
Aug 10, 2012 05:33am
The tragedy of south asians is our tendency to wait for a saviour when the time to take action is now. We are the Kemal atta turk and the Gandhi and the Che and Castro. The sooner we recognize that the better for us.
atif
Aug 10, 2012 05:33am
we are destroying pakistan as we still playing blame games .zia did thi bhutto did that .ayub did that eachone ofdid some goodsome bad .we should be talking about what we can do to make our beloved country better.shutup about the past and talk about the present and future.
Amjid Qureshi
Aug 10, 2012 12:24pm
Kamal Atta turk is not really a person to praise or follow his example, he was a western stooge and did not really believe in democracy. However, I agree that we shall look forward and let the democracy take its course with our efforts to let it flourish.
S.K Yousafzai
Aug 10, 2012 05:44am
The article remind me of my home-district Swat in Pakistan. In 1980's, Swat was a tourist destination not only for Pakistani's but westeners and east Asians. I remember the tourists walking along the stream paths in villages and experiencing the rich cultural and archealogical heritage of Swat. It was Swat then (the Paradise of Pakistan). Now, as I live abroad and when I visit my Swat, I am always worried about my own saftey in my own village. I cant tell how I feel...Hope we regain our diversity and tolerance.......
ravi
Aug 10, 2012 05:55am
i think education, moderate media could be first baby steps toward progress.
ahmed saeed
Aug 10, 2012 05:56am
Then entered the monster.
observer (UK)
Aug 10, 2012 06:00am
You must be a cuckoo to portray a moron as someone who brought wonders to the country. It is because of this moron's legacy, Pakistan is suffering. He was a hypocrite of highest order.
Vikram
Aug 10, 2012 06:00am
This Pakistan was far better than India (even in those days) -- foreigners especially Westerners had a notable bias towards that country, and it is backed up largely by their policies towards South Asia in the 1960s and 1970s and even 1980s to some extent. It was only after that that the "tilt" began towards India... and this is largely because Pakistanis abandoned the essentially secular narrative they had built for themselves perhaps by default up to around the time of the coming of Zia. Yes ZAB did "sow the seeds" of this change to some extent, but he alone cannot be held responsible for changing an entire society -- that would be giving him far too much credit! Ditto the same can be said of Zia or even Mahdudi for that matter. Pakistani society by and large should take a large part of the blame, for it is they that have seen their country become the mess it is right before their eyes. Important social sectors like Education (for example the warped narratives in school text books) are a leading cause of this. And the media wastes no time esp the tabloid media in blaming so-called "conspiracies" by "external forces" for everything that is wrong. And added to all this is the REAL "force multiplier" and that is the rampant population explosion since the 1980s.... Pakistan could have easily become a semi-advanced country by now (perhaps even more) had they just followed a "normal course", instead of making enemies with almost everyone else in the world, especially India, USA, Russia and Afghanistan. Instead one now sees no light at the end of the tunnel -- and as some would argue perhaps it is not even a tunnel, but a CAVE that Pakistan finds itself in now....
Iftikhar Ahmed
Aug 10, 2012 06:06am
Don't forget "General Jabra",or " Jahanumi Jabra of Jalandhar"and best of all "Khalifa Jabra".
Naveed Lotia
Aug 10, 2012 06:11am
Alan, I don't who told you there was a genocide against Non-Muslims in 1971. There was a genocide against Bengali Muslims!
DAA
Aug 10, 2012 06:22am
How come special edition of Zinda Lash was available on DVD in 1967 when it was invented in 1995? Recent poster?
Sanjay
Aug 10, 2012 06:22am
There was no difference between India and Pakistan till around 1955 . We were all a free and secular society (even though Pakistan chose religion over secularism as a national policy) . People from both countries did not require a visa to travel across. 1955 was the turning point when Pakistan looked west towards Saudi and India stood firm where it was. This actually shaped the destiny of both. The state in which Pakistan is today is because of lack of self belief of its rulers. It never relied on its own power and looked elsewhere for the same.
Shasha
Aug 10, 2012 06:24am
Wow! That's the real Pakistan. But unfortunately , we are now living in a completely hijacked country
Yawar
Aug 10, 2012 06:44am
As the caption says it's a cover of the film's VHS release.
Adee
Aug 10, 2012 06:50am
Well 1992 World Cup final between Pak and England was the first to be played under floodlights, not the 1996 one.
M.D.Bhasin
Aug 10, 2012 06:58am
As usual a thought provoking piece. Most of our people (South Asians) are conservative (not necessarily a bad trait). Openness (girls in swimming suits and even in skirts) in the society was not frowned upon for a simple reason that in those days such glimpses were limited to limited areas and to only special classes of people unlike today when such pictures get projected in the drawing rooms of the traditional house-holds. Most of people were basically secular too and they are. But at the same time they are so much peaceful in nature that they do not want to indulge directly in the activities that could stop the spread of extremism. We become nostalgic over the olden days, but the question is who will bring back those days. Now it is time for the unbiased and knowledgeable people like you to see the silver lining in the present scenario and to highlight it.
safeena
Aug 10, 2012 06:59am
WOW...those who were living in pakistan before us were living a way better life! i wonder how we didnt realize our downfall coming when extremism (in any sense) started prevailing in the country.. shigh!! the PAKISTAN one can be nostalgic about .... anyhow! we still love you Pakistan, happy independence <3 <3
Ali
Aug 10, 2012 07:03am
Try to get the the real meaning of Shariah, the laws you are talking about are man made laws and full of flaws, try to learn about flawless Islamic Laws made by Allah S.W.T in Quran and study live examples of Shariah Laws in Madina at Prophet Muhammad S.A.W and in Khulafa-e-Rashdeen Times, specially the Reign of Hazrat Umar R.A when Islamic state was spread of over 220,000 Square Miles. (Three times of area of Pakistan) area was so big yet there was no beggar, there was no issue of law and order situation, it was so peaceful that even Wolves wont attack cattles in Jungles, think! who put the fear even in the hearts of animals at that time that wont kill cattle belonging to people, now in the presence of man made laws humans have become worst than animals ,they are killing fellow human beings like anything without any reason in presence of man made laws, do you see the outcome, kindly dont fall prey to the propaganda of west against Islam and Islamic values, Pakistan was taken in the name of Islam to make it an example of successful country to prove to the world that Islam is the only way to survive in this world. try to be a good muslim and make other follow you. Show the real face of Islam to the world, The real face!!!!!!!!!!!! not the one projected by western propaganda specialists.
saadgadit
Aug 10, 2012 07:04am
Nadeem bhai first of all we really need atleast another few people like you who will lead us new generation about what we really were and what we ended up with. Reading your articles or going through these treasured pictures, feels like we, the youth of this country, are sitting next to our beloved uncle and he constantly amazes us with all the beautiful past of this beautiful country.. but then.. alas.. 'Khalifa Zia's Taliban Clad Islam' ruined not only the country but whole religion as a whole.. corrupted the whole generation.. and we are left with just few Nadeem Pirachas.. Sir I wish this series would never had concluded..
Zeeshan
Aug 10, 2012 07:11am
Nadeem this is for you, taken from "Selective Islam ~ An article by Imran Khan (1998)" I feel that in Pakistan we have selective Islam. Just believing in God and going through the rituals is not enough one also has to be a good human being. I feel there are certain western countries with far more Islamic traits than us, especially in the way they protect the rights of their citizens, or for that matter their justice system. In fact some of the finest individuals I know live there. What I dislike about them is their double-standards in the way they protect the rights of their citizens and yet considercitizens of other countries as being somehow inferior to them as human being, e.g. dumping toxic waste in the Third World, advertising cigarettes that are not allowed in the west and selling drugs that are banned in the west. One of the problems facingPakistan is the polarisation of two reactionary groups. On the one side is the westernised group that looks upon Islam through western eyes and has inadequate knowledge about the subject. It reacts to any one trying to impose Islam in the society and wants only a selective part of the religion. On the other extreme is the group that reacts to this westernised elite and in trying to become a defender of the faith, takes up such intolerant and self-righteous attitudes that are repugnant to the spirit of Islam."
Nibras Qureshi
Aug 10, 2012 07:12am
Beautiful collection. Great work done there Paracha sb. It's really sad to see how we have degraded ourselves as a nation. Where are all those days of glory when; international tourism was at its peak, we had the best Asian airline, we had the best schools where foreign students would come to make their future, we were open and liberal in our thought process, we had no life security issues? My question: Taking the benefit of hindsight, If only we could bring the times back and get a chance to do it all over again, how will we do it differently? And how are we doing it differently now? How soothing it is just to imagine that we are a world class nation and instead of us thinking of going abroad for making our future, people are coming from abroad to make theirs. We can still walk on the roads fearlessly. I can come to my office on my bicycle. I have other things to worry about than thinking all day that if my brother went to Peshawar or Quetta, when will he call next to tell that he's safe. We get all the claims by the politicians who are busy in pulling each others' leg and trying to prove how they are better than the others. Why can't we just think beyond all this and focus on our core instead and think and practice about Pakistan like we think about our own home and for people, just like our own family. It's a plea to all the extremist groups, stop tyranning our home, our country - Pakistan. And the politicians, get over this me better than you game, and play for your country instead as a nation, as a proud Pakistani.
safeena
Aug 10, 2012 07:17am
WOW...those who were living in pakistan before us were living a way better life! i wonder how we didnt realize our downfall coming when extremism (in any sense) started prevailing in the country.. shigh!! the PAKISTAN one can be nostalgic about .... anyhow! we still love you Pakistan, happy independence <3 <3
gaurav
Aug 10, 2012 07:20am
u r absolutely wright my dear
Kamaljit Singh
Aug 10, 2012 07:25am
you made my eyes moist. Though I was born after partition I feel sad for the families who have to leave their house and past . I still see they live there in my neighborhood when my dad tells me that Sadiqa used to live and play with him. They used to celebrate Divali and Ramzan together . Shame on them who could not visualize this tsunami before agreeing to partition.
ABDUL WAHID AWAN
Aug 10, 2012 07:27am
Great memories of a beautiful country. Pakistani people need to stop pretending to be what they are not. The problem is that our country is full of hypocrites. The only difference between 1970's and now is that in the seventies you could go to a bar and have a drink or hop over to hashish shop and get high. Where as now a days more people drink just in hiding. Everyday a new taboo comes into existence but you never see an old one being destroyed.
Rosent
Aug 10, 2012 07:31am
You are 100 per cent correct in both analysis and prescription, Pak can change when enough of it's citizens decide to change, then the elite will have to follow. The power of ordinary people is awesome, when they decide to become lions and not sheep. Pak's citizens get up off your knees and ROAR, reclaim your dignity, don't pay bribes or take them, expose the corrupt, your oppressors are cowardly bullies and will fold sooner than you think. Shame your oppressors and reclaim you brilliant future; you only need to turn your back on those ideas which denigrate human dignity and turn you you into haters. Embrace hope and compassion. Good Luck you deserve it.
Azi
Aug 10, 2012 07:40am
Not Zia ....it started with Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.........I am 60 yr old now & remember everything from Bhutto's time .......Bhitto started it all & Zia -ul- Haq took it 1 step further.......now the same family of Bhutto is still among us , still ruling us, still making a fool of us by manipulating evry side of us & others......give change a chance, get rid of any kind of religious intolerance, corruption, manipulation,mafias......& only then can we prosper..........change the constitution to give every religious community equal rights as Muslims......... look at Malaysia; a Muslim country but prospering
Suleyman
Aug 10, 2012 07:44am
Where did we go wrong???
Zeeshan
Aug 10, 2012 07:45am
thats what western countries want you to think like that. its not ISLAM, its people who made you animal and selling religion. the problem is we only listen about our religion from others, dont try to discover it my our-self.
Umar Channa
Aug 10, 2012 07:45am
It was constitutional freedom actually. The movement began to break the hegemony of Hindu establishment who wouldn't let Muslims vote.
asma tanoli
Aug 10, 2012 07:46am
Just as Zia and Bhutto destroyed Pakistan as it was then, we need a couple of leaders who could rebuild it. Musharraf tried it but did not have enough time and also he was not ruthless like Zia to enforce his ideas. Unfortunately there seems to be no one on the horizon to move us forward. May be if Imran can come out of closet and try to change it. He has a good team like Umar Asad, Jahangir Tareen, Qasuris, and so on. But personally I do not expect many changes from Imran himself as he is also a product of Zia era and fully brainwashed by Ziaism.
FAZ
Aug 11, 2012 10:47am
Excellent work NFP. I am 25 years of age and didn't know that Neil Armstrong visited Pakistan. Thank you for this. Although, I too become very sad after comparing this Pakistan with one of today but this too made me to search what went wrong in that era which we CAN make right today and prevent Pakistan from further destruction. So, turning the pages of history, I came to two main steps taken by ZAB (correct me); the separation of East Pakistan and using Ahmadis for political benefits by declaring them Non-Muslims which led to the amendment in the constitution by Zia. Though, we cannot do anything regarding East Pakistan but a lot can be done to revert the second step. But a man's strength is required to go against all so called PURE MUSLIMS which I think currently is not present in our society. Once this develop, then and only then one can dream of getting that Pakistan back.........and I am hopeful to see those days again...
Zeeshan
Aug 10, 2012 07:50am
even in abroad you cant go at night...... you will not be blown up but you will be robbed or may be killed in another way. from australia
nig
Aug 10, 2012 07:51am
And we have lost that free ,beautiful Pakistan we have nothing to show and share our children....now only have to tell them killings, bomb attacks ,sectarian attacks ..............thank you Nadim you have showed every one that we had that Pakistan also..........
Zobia Haider
Aug 10, 2012 07:57am
Zia era will be consider one of the black era in the history of Pakistan, to save himself he misuses religion. he was the person who ignited the fire of hatred among different communities of the society. today i ask this question from him that how will he justify the murders of millions of innocent people. his wrong policies has damaged the reputation of this beautiful country very badly.
Dhanus Menon
Aug 10, 2012 08:13am
You r wrong. Even if you withdraw from the war on terror the taliban will attack you. The actions taken need to be drastic. YOu have to clear up the mess created by zia. Change your education system. Stop promoting hate.
Nauman
Aug 10, 2012 08:32am
You miss the point. More chaos whether ethnic or religious erupted when Zia and religious forces were in complete control. They did not pay any attention towards growing population and its needs. Religious parties were busy in holding onto power. Thats where gun violence started. If you hate secularism, its your right, but do give the same right to others and dont kill them. Whose responsibility was it to ensure peace? If the religious forces could not do anything, why did they make it worse. Today Pakistan is divided more. Why? The reason I blame religious forces more is because religious force evoke emotions of the common people. The lahore riots you referred to is an example. even the so called liberals had to make alliances with the religious factions for this reason. Thats the reason that no matter who is in power, you will always see JUI or others with them too.
Sajju Balti
Aug 10, 2012 08:43am
Those were the golden days of our beloved country!!
ahmadwalid
Aug 10, 2012 09:30am
.........and then We destroyed everything......... ...and it will go on if still we don't understand and realize our shortcomings and CHANGE ourselves and direction all our energies to REBUILD rather falling a prey to biased criticism.We will be in future what We now decide to be......
KHAN
Aug 10, 2012 09:44am
KHAN Amaizing history of Apna Mulk
aviratam
Aug 10, 2012 09:52am
Bravo, Sir. You've taken out some of the frustration I felt when I read elsewhere in the same paper about Rehman Malik's conspiracy theories about Hindus getting visas for India.
Ch Farooq
Aug 10, 2012 09:55am
Great Great effort ! what a ravishing country you showed to us! A country destroyed by Islamic militants, illetracy, bad management and political ill will....Zia's short signtness has caused everlasting damages to Pakistan. I feel sorry for myself and young generation who have never seen light and beautiful side of Pakistan, for them life may mean something full of thorns, extortion and injustice!
Abdul, Germany
Aug 10, 2012 09:56am
Very nice Zeeshan. Imran said what is very much visible in the comments here.
Hasaan
Aug 10, 2012 09:56am
You said almost the exact thing I wanted to say... and the came Zia the destroyer
Hasaan
Aug 10, 2012 10:00am
Why not? If we stand up and try to change things then nothing is impossible.. our parent generation destroyed what their parents built with their sweat and blood.. now its our job to work hard and fix what was so beautiful and was ruined... at least we could say then we started it...
@NauRukh
Aug 10, 2012 10:20am
I hated Zia ul Haq before reading this series. Now I realize that what happened during his era was simply an anti-thesis of the vulgarity and nonsense which prevailed in urban Pakistan till late 1970s. Liberal scums like you and your alcoholic father do not represent Pakistani people. Living in Karachi I have grown up with Goans, Parsis, Anglo-Indians, Hindus and Ahmedi friends and neighbours and we have always been together as a closely knit fraternity and let me tell you that my family and myself belong to a group representing political Islam and we want to see our country as a true Islamic democratic welfare state. The vast majority of Pakistanis are not extremists and we will kick out both taliban and liberal scums like you out of their country soon, inshallah.
Sadia
Aug 10, 2012 10:22am
woww......i cud not imagine a pakistan like this...i m one of those unlucky generation to be born in zia's time and brought up in an envoirnment of so called islamic pak....we want this beautiful time back......i wish i have ever saw such a normal pakistan
Aamir Nawaid
Aug 10, 2012 10:31am
Dear Readers. Isn't it the right time to rebuild what was lost? Let us start contributing towards building a better Pakistan by imparting better education and ethics to our children. At least we can do it within our homes. Teach our children the respect and dignity of human life and keep them away from all forms of extremism. Zia destroyed it all, now we have to rebuild it.
amer
Aug 10, 2012 10:37am
It just so pains me to see these normal, Happy pics....
Sami
Aug 10, 2012 11:06am
thanks
usman
Aug 10, 2012 11:07am
Its very very sad to see these pictures.. not because of the pictures rather because now they are only memories... we were a good nation.. a good country.. a good economy... a good place for tourists... we had good institutions... and then wat hapnd to our beloved country???? whosoever did this to our country but we are also responsible for it... i believe there is only one long term solution to all the problems of our country and that is education... quality education can bring Pakistan back on track!!
manoj
Aug 10, 2012 11:16am
Nadeem saheb! Typo error on the Cold-drink commerical photo of Imran Khan+Sunny Gavaskar. The Brand is 'Thums Up'..not 'Thumbs Up'. [Still a very popular brand in India.]
Mohammad Aqeel
Aug 10, 2012 11:16am
The cleanliness of the cities is unbelievable......
moeenuddin mohmand
Aug 10, 2012 11:39am
indeed my fellow countrymen/woman it was the best time of our lives in a very peaceful era .....i hope and pray to almightyallah to bring peace to our beautiful country...amin....
Sardar Shah,Khi
Aug 10, 2012 11:42am
a muslim woman swimming is one of the most shameful and disgusting thing that can happen.Nothing to feel normal abt that.
rehan1975
Aug 10, 2012 11:46am
"Only" salat and fasting ? and I have yet to see muslims that are " strong" in salat and fasting by the way . Also , what is this "Saudi Arabia extremism" ? Seems that there are a lot of such terms around that need to be questioned ..
Sardar Shah,Khi
Aug 10, 2012 11:47am
Then u should sincerely desire and pray for the implementation of islamic shariah in Pakistan instead of the secular democracy system at present which is bringing Allah's wrath on this nation.
rehan1975
Aug 10, 2012 11:48am
So what if the Saudis can throw around their weight ? Secularism running short of stamina to do something about it?
rehan1975
Aug 10, 2012 11:49am
So true.... all we need are more "friends" like US !!!
Krishna
Aug 10, 2012 11:58am
Good One;)
Aimal
Aug 10, 2012 12:34pm
A superb article and great to read. But there is one correction to be noted. The photo with the caption, "A Swiss tourist gets his car’s tank filled at a gas station on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border (1974)" should read “A Swedish tourist....". The car has a "S" written on the rear next to the number plate and it stands for Sweden. A car from Switzerland would have "CH" written at the rear.
Waqar Arshad
Aug 10, 2012 01:05pm
This Pakistan was much better than today's Islamic Pakistan.
ahmadwalid
Aug 10, 2012 02:00pm
.........and then We destroyed everything......... ...and it will go on if still we don't understand and realize our shortcomings and CHANGE ourselves and direction all our energies to REBUILD rather falling a prey to biased criticism.We will be in future what We now decide to be......
Haroon Rashid Buzzy
Aug 10, 2012 01:41pm
No Comments. But still feel like saying someting. I have seen Karachi peaceful, serene & swinging at night. Sad that this Nation never deserved what they have gone through. Unfortunatly due to bad leadership the deterioration started in the 70's and still continues. I dont know when this will end. All we can do is pray and hope Pakistan gets a Leader who would bring change for the better.
Khalid Farid
Aug 10, 2012 01:54pm
Viewers and Readers. Just Imagine where we were going and now we have gone. I wish Pakistan could have been a place of pregressive and modern people. Just see our fate in Olympics, not a single medal, so we have to put our direction right a nation of bright future and a progreesive state. We all have put our share in that approach.
An Indian
Aug 10, 2012 02:05pm
I second that UAG! I grew up in India before and during liberalisation (1990s) and saw the changes with my own eyes.. kids today has got so much freedom, fun and options, that in a way I envy them.. During my schoool/college time, the aim for all children were study, get good grades, become doctor, engineer and get a government job.. no encouragement for sports, drama, music or anyother type of career choices.. everything else was big no no! and now as they say world is their oyster!
ahmadwalid
Aug 10, 2012 02:06pm
.........and then We destroyed everything......... ...and it will go on if still we don't understand and realize our shortcomings and CHANGE ourselves and direct all our energies to REBUILD rather falling a prey to biased criticism.We will be in future what We now decide to be......
Dalbir
Aug 10, 2012 02:22pm
The biggest surprise for me was the girl sitting on her motorbike that too in 1969 . In 2004 & 2006 when I visited Pakistan I could not see a single girl riding a bicycle what to talk of a motorbike . It has really been a downward slide .
Sameer Khan
Aug 10, 2012 02:29pm
You are 100% accurate
Tanvir
Aug 10, 2012 02:36pm
Right on!
M N Syed
Aug 10, 2012 02:41pm
Now we are downed to such an extent that a fake engineer claimed running a car with water and fooled top Pakistani scientists.Ina lillahe wa inna ilahi rajioon.
wasim
Aug 10, 2012 03:47pm
days never remains the same... if good one's are gone.... Bad one's will also be vanished away.... World is continue-sly changing place...
R. Varghese
Aug 10, 2012 03:48pm
Amazing pictures!!!!! Keep up the good work. Until the 80s, Pakistani currency was much stronger than that of India and so was the standard of living. Fanaticism brutally killed the country . Changes can only be brought through education. That includes changes in text books. We would like to see a healthy and prosperous neighbour.
AHA
Aug 10, 2012 03:50pm
May Allah also restore tolerence for 'others'.
Munawar
Aug 10, 2012 03:59pm
It was the agenda of the Muslim League to create a separate homeland for Muslims in India. However, the League was not able to convince Muslims in Muslim majority provinces to vote for partition. The League did not win elections in any of the Muslim majority provinces (Frontier, Balochistan, Sind, Punjab and Bengal). These provinces were all governed by parties other than the Muslim League. Ordinary folk preferred living with their Hindu or Sikh neighbors to opting for a separate homeland. Jinnah not succeeding in getting his way, unleashed his first terror attack, when League goons slaughtered Hindus in Calcutta, August 1946. His second terror attack was against Kashmir in 1948; people recall the rape and pillage by proto-Talibans. Nuns were raped in the convent in Baramullah. Pakistan was a project of the Urdu speaking urban elite - they were the single largest beneficiaries of the Partition. Having looted the country they are now enjoying a comfortable retirement in Western countries. Pakistan's first Prime Minister, Liaquat Ali Khan had won a seat from UP (India). Not having support from the population he surrendered to the mullah's by implementing what became known as the Objective Resolution Order. Attacks against Ahmedi's followed almost immediately, followed later by attacks on Bengali's (1954) ("yeh to Hinduon ki aulad hain"). These events occurred much before the Ayb/Bhutto clique. The 1971 liberation war that created Bangladesh put to rest any validity of the two-nation theory. If things look bleak in Pakistan I am afraid worse is to come. I pray for the hapless citizens of that country.
Jayant
Aug 10, 2012 03:59pm
It is still not too late to reverse the course. It took Bihar less than 4 years to go from the worst to one of the best states in India. All you need is just one person to change it.
DR.A.QADEER
Aug 10, 2012 04:01pm
Good
Munawar
Aug 10, 2012 04:01pm
Sins? How about the 500,000 slaughtered in E. Pakistan.
Putar
Aug 10, 2012 04:29pm
Yeh kya jageh hai doston, ye kounsa dayar hai,???????????????????????????
Muazzam Siddiqui
Aug 10, 2012 04:29pm
Correction here ... not only Pre Zia but Pre Bhutto Pakistan was great. The slide towards the mess that we currently "enjoy" was started by Z.A. Bhutto and accelerated by Zia.
Dr Haq
Aug 10, 2012 04:30pm
feel that our population is confused in what direction to go,the pendulum appears to have swung from one extreme to another,one has to adopt the middle path, Having very outward religiosity without the essence of being nice to fellow humans irrespective of their background is a fundamental issue.The country has become more "religious" at least outwardly but obviously has not translated in improved indicators at any level of national achievement.But the Zia phenomenon did not just happen from the top,a significant part of the population obviously had issues to westernization and it's ill effects,growing up in the 70s I can relate to that.also I do not think extreme westernization can solve the mutiple problems faced by the country or transform it to something under the sun,.unfortunately that is no example of an islamic country that we can follow or relate to..
Dr Haq
Aug 10, 2012 04:30pm
Education is the key here,once our people have improved real literacy if that is ever worked on as extreme priority and subsequently chart the future course regarding what is the role of religion in various affairs only then we can move forward,to be on extremes will lead us to anywhere .We have to respect each other views and be tolerant and discard the self righteous attitude.all this may be too idealistic however there must be self belief in the innate talent and potential of our people.
Mohammed Baluch
Aug 10, 2012 04:40pm
If all of us simply accept each other without being judgmental, then all the damage wreaked upon the country by various politicians will be reversed. I grew up in the warm embrace of St. Patrick's in Karachi in the fifties - and at school, no one cared about one's ethnicity nor one's religious affiliation. If the young Pakistanis can accept that as a challenge, they can have their beloved Pakistan back again!
Kamran
Aug 10, 2012 04:43pm
i wish i just wish we could have the same Pakistan once again....but all we are today is just because of Zia ul haq ....may his soul never rest......
Aslam
Aug 10, 2012 04:46pm
I agree with every word you. Stated here and wish people in Pakistan could see things from this perspective. As an Indian you seem to have a very objective view about the situation. In Pakistan which is great.
Ahsan
Aug 10, 2012 05:21pm
agreed
Ahsan Mirza
Aug 10, 2012 05:27pm
Very well written, for few minutes while I read this felt like a dream...long lost sadly!!. Pakistan is a classic example of how damaging the inclusion of religion in Govt can be. Army, Zia, Wahabi's, Gulf nations, American interest (Russian war)......all contributing factors. But it is the people of Pakistan that bought us to where we are.
Sam
Aug 10, 2012 05:40pm
Aapki Niyat kharab hai to usme ladies ka kya kasoor ?
Usman Sadiq
Aug 10, 2012 05:43pm
I read the comments with a lot of interest... for all the people who wrote what ever... "What are you gonna do about it?" just post comments and just keep bickering... that all... For the Gentleman who compiled this beautiful blog... hope to enjoy a glass with you one day
Shafi
Aug 10, 2012 05:45pm
Read about to-day's Pakistan. Two women kidnapped in the Capital and raped also during the month of Ramadan. How low Pakistanis could be?
Sam
Aug 10, 2012 05:47pm
Cant you notice both their eyes meeting a t a particular point.
Imran
Aug 10, 2012 05:59pm
That is over simplification. India did not stand where it was, it was in USSR camp.
Faisal Taquie
Aug 10, 2012 06:30pm
Why can't a muslim woman swim in proper attire? What is so shameful about that?
Sid
Aug 10, 2012 06:44pm
Boy, as an Indian born in the mid 80s, this Pakistan is unknown to me. Girls chilling out in pools, people having fun. Just as what India would have been (probably even a tad bit better - considering PIA was supposed to be a good airlines. Flying in Air India has always been like travelling in a local bus) Almost surreal. I can understand why the Pakistanis feel let down. But you cant blame the current situation on anyone else, but yourself. Not taking action against wrong is still wrong. Edmund Bruke - The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
baakhlaq
Aug 10, 2012 06:57pm
NFP has done a wonderful job but if he reads my comments, I would request him to rewrite the same under the title "NOW AND THEN" and show us where we stand today.
shahid
Aug 10, 2012 07:12pm
it was not the communist revolution but the so called mujahidin who destroyed afghanistan
Shahriar Shirazi
Aug 10, 2012 07:14pm
Good stuff. I, however, would recommend to get out of nostalgia and start a debate amongst the sensible people to get back to where the country was a few decades back. We have a problem at hand and need to discuss a solution. I have travelled all around the globe and trust me, even war torn African countries are on a path to recovery and (in most cases) in better shape than us.
Tariq
Aug 10, 2012 07:27pm
What's the point in being strong in salat and fasting when we have lost the real meaning/value of what Islam stands for? The Arabs (God forbid) are as far away from Islam as you can get and for them salat is just a habit!
Rani Sharma
Aug 10, 2012 07:48pm
Iftikhar That "once in a while" repeated itself 3 million times. 3 million Hindus were massacred and another 10 million Hindus fled to India and never returned.
BART
Aug 10, 2012 08:02pm
Imran and OZZI, You do understand why Zia invited Saudi money/tachings to Pakistan? IT was to fight this so called "Jihad" in Afghanistan. If you dont want Saud discounted/free petroleum and money just say NO and reduce their influence in our country. SO just SAY NO to American Aid or Saudi Aid if you thin they are responsible for our intolerant society. The truth is that we are intolerant enough on our own.
Yawar
Aug 10, 2012 08:06pm
Today its not the Saudis that are influencing our lives. But rather its the Pakistanis that the Saudis managed to influence in the 80s and 90s.
Sher
Aug 10, 2012 08:49pm
I am in tears!! Give me my Pakistan back!!!
Hamid Abbasi
Aug 10, 2012 09:05pm
amazing............. hope Pakistan can be back on track with every corner sending the message of peace and prosperity...........
aniqrahman
Aug 10, 2012 09:08pm
so sad,things r not the way they used to b in good old days of 60s- 70s,have been dragged beind
Feroz
Aug 10, 2012 09:09pm
Who Destroyed PIA? Who Destroyed Steel Mills? Who Destroyed Railways? Who Destroyed Judiciary? Who Destroyed Educational System? Who Destroyed Currency Valuation? -- none of these were destroyed by Taliban.. Guess who. All the institutes were destroyed by left wing liberals..
Saeed
Aug 10, 2012 09:23pm
Zia or Bhutto who care . now today lets decide what is best free western style like old days Or strong religious authority .just pick one
average pakistani
Aug 10, 2012 09:51pm
Do come to Pakistan, don't trust the words of the media ... both of our nations have been led astray by our leaders through the years and hence created hatred in the minds and hearts of each other. These hardliners are rubbing out the very purpose of existence (especially Pakistan). Come and see for urself, the picture is not as gloomy as you have been shown :) .
average pakistani
Aug 10, 2012 09:52pm
We see your pain Kamaljit ji , khuda hum sub ko apni hifazat main rakhey .
Ahmad
Aug 10, 2012 10:08pm
Every part of this series takes me back to the time when all of us were just Pakistanis.
Saeed
Aug 10, 2012 10:26pm
Alcohol play pivot rule for development . Example western society and now middle east counties like Dubai and Qatar (along with oil money)
Slim
Aug 10, 2012 10:28pm
When NFP provides these pictures from a Pakistan that was, it makes my heart bleed and makes me want to cry.
Lioness
Aug 10, 2012 10:28pm
Totally agree - Zia took over what Bhutto was doing
Lioness
Aug 10, 2012 10:37pm
DesiMunda: My parents did the opposite move from Jullandar to Lahore. They never taught us any hatred for Hindus or Sikhs. Infact wherever they would meet any Sikh, they would embrace them as a son/daughter/brother/sister. However, when I am on such discussion boards as you mention, I see the hatred towards my country and religion too. Hate and love both are 2 way streets - just depends on what you are nurtured to choose. I am fortunate that I was taught to choose the latter. But when my old parents wish was to see their birth home just one time, in the mid 90's your country refused the visa, just bec they were now in Pakistan despite their passport saying they were Jullandar born. And I too was refused, just bec I was born in Pakistan. I wish I could remove all the hate mongering people and politicians
Asif
Aug 11, 2012 12:19am
I am usually not a fan of NFP's writings, but this is a great piece of work. This Pakistan was tolerant, a paradise lost :-(
Syed
Aug 11, 2012 12:27am
Yes she may very well be a muslim. Women back in 60s and 70s wore Western clothes without fear of repercussion from the masses. Pakistan could have become the Turkey or Lebanon of South Asia but thanks to Bhutto, Zia and the conservatives, it is going in the direction of becoming the Zimbabwe of South Asia. As they say "Could have, would have, should have ...." wish Indians and Pakistani Govts can join hands and stop the nonsense. Enuff is enuff.
Flavio
Aug 11, 2012 12:55am
I greet all Pakistanis brothers, I am Brazilian, I always wanted to know the countries of the region particularly Pakistan and India. But the news reaching us here realize that not too fond of foreigners and non-Muslim. Is a pity. I live in one of the most unequal countries in the world and see that new generations are trying to change this situation. I believe that our children are output to overcome this problem. Only education saved, the next generation will change the world we live in for the better. A big hug to all Pakistanis, do not let bigotry win and sorry my bad english ..
Asif
Aug 11, 2012 01:01am
I am a Patrician from the early-mid 70s. Glad to see your note, Mr. Baloch - and wholly second your sentiments.
pimmy
Aug 11, 2012 02:16am
population explosion
Paki
Aug 11, 2012 02:44am
What are you smoking. There was hardly ever a peaceful existence among Muslims. The first caliph declared war against some Muslims who had refused to recognize his authority to collect zakat. They did not argue against the validity of zakat but about the states right to collect it. Will anyone in this time and age think it to be acceptable if the Government of Pakistan decides to execute its citizens for refusing to pay zakat to the state? During the time of the second caliph, the whole wealth distribution system got changed from what had existed since the time of Rasullah (saw) and the first caliph. As a result, there was a big class divide in society. This problem got exacerbated at the time of Caliph Uthman and people (read Muslims) rebelled and assassinated their third caliph. Afterwards, the Muslims rebelled against their fourth caliph on three separate occasions (Jamal, Sifeen, and Nahrawan) along with other battles all over the Muslim land of that time. So, please don't delude us with false ideas about "Our Golden Era". Maybe at best you can say it was the golden era of conquest. Conquest and Islam are not synonymous terms.
Usama Zaidi
Aug 11, 2012 03:16am
It was always effed up, right from its creation, when we choose USA over Russia, the Nawabs preferred self interest over the interest of the citizenry.
Hassan
Aug 11, 2012 03:20am
well said
Anoosh Khan
Aug 11, 2012 03:36am
Great collection NFP! It makes me sad to see the Pakistan we lost to something for which I don't even have a name! My concern: how do we get back the Pakistan of yester-years? I would really appreciate to see your take on what to do: individually and collectively.
Zahir Momin
Aug 11, 2012 03:39am
I'm missing that Pakistan which was tolerant and respecting human values
Imran
Aug 11, 2012 03:43am
What in God's name happened to us. Such a vibrant country. How did we allow this to happen? Please elect Imran Khan so we can reclaim the glory that once was.
Hitesh
Aug 11, 2012 03:59am
It seems Pakistan was really a happy place to live. But you should not forget what was the status of first minority i.e. Hindus who where excluded from National Narrative. If in a village of thousand people even if five person are excluded and ill-treated their sighs(bad-dua) will eventually affect the remaining 995 so called happy people of the village. You can see what their Bad-dua brought to the village. I hope India will take its lesson and never try to tread on this path of Majority Narrative.
Naveed
Aug 11, 2012 04:01am
That was the leftist pakistan and today is the rightist pakistan, hopefully one day we will reach the center !!!!!!!
Sana Aslam
Aug 11, 2012 04:19am
thank u for such a valuable insight! Dam!!!! the man destroyed us !
T.NADEEM
Aug 11, 2012 04:23am
AHHA...UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN...WITHOUT IMRAN KHAN..PAKISTAN MAY HARDLY SURVIVE ANOTHER DECADE.
imran
Aug 11, 2012 04:28am
JANEY KAHAANH GAY WO DIN
Faisal Yaqoob
Aug 11, 2012 04:29am
In These Momories Mostly Are Dreadful & Disappointed !!! Infact, The Pakistanies Have Not Made Enough Progress That Quaid-e-Azam Wanted !!!!!!
khawaja ikramul haq
Aug 11, 2012 04:39am
an era that ended in the seventies...now no political leader would dare travel in an open carriage with a wife of teh US president...
mashood qadri
Aug 11, 2012 05:08am
Your comments and believes are unfortunately based on prejudice. On one side, you are accusing Pakistan of being terrorist country from the begining and giving examples of Kashmiris astrocities by Pakistani's are baseless and opposite to the reality. I will not extend any discussion here. Gujrat, Kashmir issues are as wild as any of the violence in Pakistan. Religious extremism in any form is a sheared psychosis, creul and destructive to the whole mankind. It is hard to accept the true history when your mind is biases. When there was a violence occured like, on Indo-Pakistan partition. It had brought one of the cruellest and bloodiest migrations and ethnic cleansings in history. Killing of one human being, irrespective of race, religion or cast is the killing of whole human kind. This is the lesson, we should preach, here for betterment of the future world.
Dad
Aug 11, 2012 05:10am
Raj: You want to see the old days of glory, but at the same time you are wondering if the girl is a muslim or not, why do you have to bring religion into this beautiful picture, you sound like a Jamaat-e-Islami fanatic.
mashood qadri
Aug 11, 2012 05:09am
The context of the topic was to find out, how to educate people, to move towards the right directions. Since, they are being fueled in the wrong engine with no help, but wrong directions from everywhere. Pakistan was running on the track of succesful developing countries, till the country had an intact concept of moderation element. As an analogy, Bhartia Janta Party took over in 1990's and then continued running the Indian think tank at their best; what would have happened to India now?? No explaination needed. Pakistan's infra structure was ruined by Feudals, Mullahs and Military Samraaj. They are the key players, who always have used the country as a pitry dish for interests of one or the other external powers. We need a change from middle class people, who have been the most talented and most daring class in the country. They just need to be navigated in the right direction. Hard to say, where to start, but bring education first in the country, will take away religious extremism from the society. Build a strong Pakistan with strong economy and healthy society. This will be in the best interest of the world politics
Nibras_Q
Aug 13, 2012 11:17am
typo error.. it's Sunil Gavaskar.. not Sunny Gavaskar
observer
Aug 11, 2012 06:03am
@AHA You have it Bro. Look at the DPC and then look at the non-Islamic types exiting through Wagah. Your wish has been granted.
Saleem Ali
Aug 11, 2012 06:08am
How lifeless has become a country that was once so full of life. Thank you for showing these beautiful pictures of Pakistan that once was.
Wasim
Aug 11, 2012 06:09am
WTF wrong with you Admin, why you don't approve my comments to show...
observer
Aug 11, 2012 06:15am
Being Nostalgic is OK. But being in denial is fatal. I get a sense that most people are content with blaming Zia or Bhutto or both. The moot question is , If you agree that what has happened/ is happening is wrong and needs to be corrected, then you need to act now. My understanding of the issue is that for a vast majority of Pakistanis, Pakistan was lost to darkness till Zia al Jihad appeared on the scene. They celebrate Pakistan as it is today. Don't believe me? Look at the turnout at DPC rallies and the conduct and the verdict of the Supreme Court, in Rinkle Kumari case. Forget the nostalgia. Breathe some fire if change is the goal.
kashif ali soomro
Aug 11, 2012 08:12am
pakistan was once so cool and calm, with people not after killing each other everyday
observer
Aug 11, 2012 08:21am
Ameen!
ysk
Aug 11, 2012 12:37pm
Dont worry guys. We are getting there....Step 1: No electricity :)
jenkins
Aug 11, 2012 12:48pm
NFP is getting repetitive. A bunch of photographs are not going to awake a nation at sleep with cronies as leaders!
Dr M Imran rashid
Aug 11, 2012 03:38pm
I am optimistic and i hope such glimpses again as sun rays seeks their way in the fog, let's hope for the revitalization!!!
Kashif J
Aug 11, 2012 04:36pm
although the generation of 80`s has missed most of these , but this is what we wanted to build on and give to the upcoming generations.
Karim
Aug 11, 2012 06:08pm
That 3 million is a bogus figure just like the 200,000 Bengali women who were allegedly raped.
Sreehari
Aug 11, 2012 06:17pm
It gives me immense pleasure to see Pakistan's old glory.,!!! :):):) ( Well I never meant of Wine bottle..) I have been reading Dawn for quiet a long time.. in early days I used read lots of comment badly said against Indians hatred to Pakistan... Today its a pleasure that at least some people ( I honestly dont know if it is few drops in an ocean) realize the real issues of Pakistan... I just wanted to tell and assure my brothers and sisters of Pakistan that.... YOU WERE A PART OF US YOU ARE A PART OF US YOU WILL BE A PART OF US.. AND WE ARE ONE FAMILY. I wish that there will come a dawn were we all will celebrate the start of Endless Happy days of Pakistan. IF any fundamentalists or politician says that Indians hate..... Remember my words....We never hate you.....We love you a pray for you...
Sreehari
Aug 11, 2012 06:25pm
It gives me immense pleasure to see Pakistan's old glory.,!!! :):):) ( Well I never meant of Wine bottle..) I hope Pakistan will regain its Harmonious days Wishing the very best to Pakistani brothers and sisters
Amin Hussain
Aug 11, 2012 08:17pm
Of course the clean shaved JJ existed in the eighties... zia's time.... but who cares... right?
Amin Hussain
Aug 11, 2012 08:23pm
Western counties had a tilt towards pakistan because we were acting mercenary for them... not because they are great lovers of the secular ideal... The US effectively brought in Jihadi culture so that Pakistan would fight the Communist threat... jihadi books were published in the US... US dollars were pumped into jihadi outfits to keep them fightin... there was huge propaganda about how these freedom fighters were taking on the Bear... these are facts not conspiracy theory. It was only when Pakistan stopped being of much use to them that the relationship soured...
pepe
Aug 13, 2012 09:50am
Excellent gr8 collection!
waqar rasool
Aug 11, 2012 09:54pm
amazing... i never knew it was so good..
ali abbas
Aug 11, 2012 10:29pm
People of Pakistan have given up on Pakistan. I hope our Indian friends never give up on us.
Yusuf
Aug 12, 2012 03:01am
what did religion have to do with it? I thought Pakistan was for all people.
History and Reality
Aug 12, 2012 05:14pm
When Britishers were forced to quit their "jewel-in-the-crown" colony, India, they decided to cut-out the north-western strip of the sub-continent as a separate country, and planned to control it remotely and keep it allied to west, for use against communist Russia's expansionism. This strip of land was named "West Pakistan", and was under control of US since shortly after its creation, through American AID, World Bank Loans, SEATO, & CENTO It was Britishers who used their Intelligence services to create hatred between Hindus & Muslims and then used Muslim League to achieve their aim. During struggle for Pakistan (before 1947 era) we said we want Pakistan for Islam & Muslims. In reality Muslim League & its supporters wanted it for political power & protection of Landlords & Tribal leaders. We are getting reward for this hypocrisy. You reap what you sow!
Adil
Aug 12, 2012 07:58am
A great job, at least i learned that we had a prosperous and liberal paksitan which was visited by tourist from world over... keep showing the good side too
Abdul, Germany
Aug 13, 2012 09:54am
awake? What is so special here to awake the nation?
Abdul, Germany
Aug 13, 2012 09:53am
Prosperous???? Did you see the GDP, eduction rate, number of universities etc? How can you judge from some selective pictures that Paksitan was prosperous at that time?
Abdul, Germany
Aug 13, 2012 09:52am
My God.. I tried really hard and not able to fond any thing golden in these pictures :)
samra
Aug 13, 2012 09:53am
IF women can bear the heat of HELL, they are most welcome to swim in cold water... Why Muslim women want to swim in public, if there is enclosed non public swimming pool, it might be ok but otherwise NO WAY
Flavio
Aug 14, 2012 02:31am
Thanks for the reply. I hope to know this beautiful country. Stay in Peace.
ahmed jan
Aug 14, 2012 05:01am
dr abdul salam shb is great personality of world.............................
razalex
Aug 14, 2012 07:01pm
Nice pics
Syed Zeshan
Aug 14, 2012 08:49pm
basically everything ended after Zia ul haq!!
Iqbal H Malik
Aug 15, 2012 08:44am
It is raelly great to see Pakistani President taking viviting US first lady in an open car in downtown karachi. Today even our military parade cannot be held outdoors.
Asrar H Khan
Aug 15, 2012 03:38pm
Very sad. We can return back to our glorious past only if each one of us stops blaming others for the downfall. Instead we should endeavor to  'FOLLOW THE RIGHT PATH' our selves,as we ONLY SAY it in our prayers five times a day. Asrar H. Khan
Nasir Abbas <HURR>
Aug 15, 2012 08:04pm
How pathetic! this short shortsightedness eaten up the beautiful fabric of Pakistan-- suspicion suspicion suspicion that's what we are cultured on and forced to thrive upon. These days if ever I communicate about the ex east Pakistan, to my surprise (and I am sorry to say) no one shows any remorse or regrets for loosing half of our country so sad state of mind. Now the majority sect wants to cleanse away the land of pure from the impurities of islam the so called unclean infidels the shias why?
Solomon2
Aug 17, 2012 01:24pm
So sad. Pakistan's decay can be traced - from before Partition - to the pursuit of power and glory - religious, military, monetary - and needs no other explanations. British India developed due to British efforts to protect ordinary Indians against arbitrary tyranny, both at the local and regional level
Saeed
Aug 17, 2012 07:05am
request plz always thing good about own homeland, lets prove ourselve to be a nation. Not a hurde which is being directed by others
Imran
Aug 21, 2012 05:23pm
zia destroyed everything.......
Afzal
Aug 23, 2012 09:45am
ALLAH is there. ISLAM is there. PAKISTAN is there. We want Pakistan"s position starting from that ERA.