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PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari addresses a public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari addresses a public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari addresses a public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – Photo by Online
PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari addresses a public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – Photo by Online
Asif Ali Zardari and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari wave to PPP workers and supporters in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Asif Ali Zardari and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari wave to PPP workers and supporters in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Supporters and activists of PPP chant slogans in Lahore on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Supporters and activists of PPP chant slogans in Lahore on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Former president Asif Ali Zardari and PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari offer Fateha during public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Former president Asif Ali Zardari and PPP patron-in-chief Bilawal Bhutto Zardari offer Fateha during public gathering in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh on Friday, December 27, 2013. – PPI Photo
Activists of PPP take part in a demonstration in connection to the death anniversary of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, outside Lahore Press Club on Friday. – Photo by Online
Activists of PPP take part in a demonstration in connection to the death anniversary of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, outside Lahore Press Club on Friday. – Photo by Online

KARACHI: In a fiery speech at Garhi Khuda Bakhsh to mark the sixth death anniversary of his mother Benzair Bhutto on Friday, patron-in-chief of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Bilawal Bhutto Zardari declared war against Taliban militants while announcing the start of his political career.

He also indicated that his two sisters, Asifa and Bakhtawar will also participate in practical politics before the next elections, scheduled to be held in 2018.

Accepting that the path he has chosen was full of dangers, Bilawal, in an obvious reference to the tombs of his mother and grandfather Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, said his destiny was “martyrdom and Garhi Khuda Bakhsh”.

Besides criticising his political rivals, specially the government’s policy of negotiating with TTP militants, he tried to reduce prevailing despair in traditional workers and jiyalas of the PPP.

On behalf of his party, he suggested very strict conditions for dialogue, if any, with the proscribed Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. They include surrendering arms, blood money for victims of terrorist attacks and respect for minorities, among others.

Bilawal blamed the ‘establishment’ for conspiring against the PPP and engineering its defeat in the May 11 general election. However, he said his party would support the Pakistan Muslim League - Nawaz (PML-N) government against any conspiracy to derail democracy in Pakistan.

Lauding his father for his efforts in the first ever democratic transition of power in Pakistan, he said Asif Ali Zardari did what everyone thought was impossible.

With a touch of ZAB’s style and enunciation of Benazir, the PPP patron-in-chief eloquently used Urdu in his speech to the surprise of many. He used political chants and slogans along with poetry throughout the speech.

“PPP is not the party of any landlord, industrialist, player or a mullah but it’s the people’s party.”

Ruling out the notion that the PPP had changed, he said traditions do not change. “Peoples Party is a passion….it's zeal and a tradition,” he added.

Assailing the ideology of Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI), Bilawal said the complicated issue of terrorism and extremism was not going to get resolved through sit-ins and long marches.

“It’s not a kids’ game of cricket which can be resolved through a magic bat,” he said in an obvious reference to Khan.

“Tsunami cannot be brought by pouring water in four lotas.”

Bilawal rejected Khan's perception of a ‘link’ between prevailing terrorism and drone strikes. He said Pakistan was a victim of terrorism before the drone campaign started and that terrorist attacks will continue even if drone strikes came to an end.

“Buzdil (coward) Khan has stopped Nato supplies to mourn Hakimullah Mehsud’s death.”

He said it will take several generations to resolve the issue of terrorism from the country. “Friends of terrorists are traitors,” he chanted.

“Only by eradicating terrorism from society can Pakistan become prosperous and peaceful,” he said, adding that the Pakistan Peoples Party was standing in front of terrorists and blocking their way.

Meanwhile, former president Asif Ali Zardari during his speech said his prayers were with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for his success in bringing back peace in the country.

He, however, added that the government alone could not achieve such a big objective without the support of all political forces of the country. “We will have to stand by the government to make it successful,” he added.


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Adnan A
Dec 27, 2013 09:02pm

This man is setting himself for failure.

edwardian
Dec 27, 2013 09:10pm

It is best time to visit Pakistan to avoid winter blues when British winters are cold, dark and depressing. He would spend warmer, sunnier and better summer days back home in the UK and that would be the best time to fight Taliban from twitter.

Faisal Baloch
Dec 27, 2013 09:23pm

If only he had any worthwhile thing to say.

g
Dec 27, 2013 09:24pm

Seems like the rarest of Pakistanis; one making sense.

Sohail Pirzada
Dec 27, 2013 09:25pm

Zinda Hai Zinda Hai, Bhutto Zinda Hai!!

shabbir hussain
Dec 27, 2013 09:33pm

Jiye BBZ...We are with your party against the oppressed talibans

Sami
Dec 27, 2013 09:33pm

I love you Bilawal. You are very innocent and we are so stupid.

Dawood
Dec 27, 2013 09:37pm

Imran Khan - How can we get rid of the corrupt PPP and PMLN? Please guide us.

Pervez
Dec 27, 2013 09:37pm

Bad move. That's what his mother did. Bilawal PPP IS NOT THE PARTY OF THE PEOPLE ITS THE PARTY OF YOUR FAMILY. PERIOD.

Goga Nalaik
Dec 27, 2013 09:45pm

Are we going for another round of BHUTTO DAY NARAY VAJAN GAY ?

Rogers Evans
Dec 27, 2013 10:11pm

How many times, Bilawel starts his political career ? Every time he reads a written speech, he starts his career ? Is it a joke ? I know, his father depends on his chrismah, because he himself is not liked by the people. So is Bilawel without any influence or chrismah.

KAS
Dec 27, 2013 10:16pm

The article actually makes his speech look sane. I wish everybody would watch him in action. He is a parody of himself!

Desi
Dec 27, 2013 11:01pm

Bilal Bhutto in Pakistan seems to be a exact counterpart of Rahul Gandhi in India....100% entertainment.

Jhilke
Dec 27, 2013 11:19pm

For a young upstart Bilawal to have the pretense of having solutions and being able to better understand the context from his recently vacated luxurious British residence than those serving the nation on the ground--Khan or Sharif or any number of others-- is an insult to the intelligence and abilities of Pakistanis who not only talk the talk but walk the walk every single day.

sfoman
Dec 27, 2013 11:28pm

Pakistan is cursed to have leaders like this. And we keep voting for the same families again and again

Kamal
Dec 27, 2013 11:28pm

Excellent speech, no doubt. He's a good, visionary, wise, progressive leader with great oratorial skills, what Pakistan needs. Similar caliber to the great, immortal Benazir. Yes Talibans must be first crushed. We fully support Bilawal

pathanoo
Dec 27, 2013 11:40pm

Bilawal is a surprise.....a Happy One. No one has spoken out loudly, clearly and fearlessly against these terrorists. For a young guy who is not a politician yet to speak out so forcefully on such a controversial topic where Buzdils like Imran Khan dare not tread,bodes well not only for him, PPP but Pakistan as well. Good Luck, Bilawal. I was not a fan of your's and still am not but you made an impression.

Nadeem Chaudhry
Dec 28, 2013 12:19am

For all the evil in Zardari, one thing is apparent ......which is he has allowed for democracy to flourish inspite of all odds!

Mohammad Ali Khan
Dec 28, 2013 12:35am

Pakistanis need to wage war against corruption,nepotism,as well as against religious fanaticism.

Ada
Dec 28, 2013 12:58am

My village in Dadu is inundated---the drainage system in Hala where my cousin lives produces mines of servile mentality and human waste as well as trash while Moen-jo-Daro which I read about in my Sindhi textbook is kissing dust due to years of neglect. pls, rescue us first from our millenia of destitution first here in Sindh Mr.B where your party has been in power for, umm like just 40 years and then, declare your plans to wage a jehad or maybe even the third world war. But pls, do something about the mess that Sindh is in right now. . Gosh, can't you really see it? The establishment ain't responsible for the plethora of diseases that characterise Sindh son---time to wake up to the reality that your party is nothing but a band of incompetent policy makers with not even in iota of knowledge about good governance.

Yogesh
Dec 28, 2013 01:10am

He appears to be good, bold, and hope for Pakistan. I wish him success and long life - particularly considering what happened to his mother BB.

Azam Qadeer
Dec 28, 2013 02:30am

Dear Bilawal Sb Nice to know you are eager to be part of Political and we are glad you decided to wait till 2018 to participate in election you spend most of your life out side of Pakistan would like to suggest few thing take it or leave it up to you 1-try to be clean politician do not pin point any one every one have right to do as they desire but calling each other is not a nature of good Human 2- Learn more Urdu 3- Get married and also your sisters. May Allah help you

Shahpur
Dec 28, 2013 02:49am

Let us see what this Kid says. After all he a famous name, and he did all the right things. Who knows.

Khawar T khyam
Dec 28, 2013 03:24am

Welcome to the jungle of politics.

Sh
Dec 28, 2013 04:43am

And the Lion roars. Well done boy. We are with you

mazhar sultan
Dec 28, 2013 04:52am

I like his BOLD stand against Taliban GEO BILAWAL

mazhar sultan
Dec 28, 2013 04:54am

i love bilawal ;s bold stand

Jehanzeb
Dec 28, 2013 05:08am

A very shallow analysis of the situation. Revolts either in the garb of religion or ethnicity are a consequence of poor governance. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. Use of force is fine as a tool to bring people to negotiations however there is no such thing as vanquishing the enemy. Ultimately you have to sit down and talk even with your worst enemies for the greater good of all.

inayat ullah
Dec 28, 2013 07:54am

welcome to BILAWAL

Sohraab
Dec 28, 2013 09:51am

Honestly, I am impressed. He is a changed person, a typical Bhutto style and this is what PPP needs now to lift its game. I wish him luck!

Syed Hasan Mustafa
Dec 28, 2013 12:34pm

Geo Bhutto

Bilal
Dec 28, 2013 07:38pm

We deserve Zardari and Bilawal, because we don't speak out against corrupt politicians.v

Fareed
Dec 28, 2013 07:41pm

"Buzdil (coward) Khan has stopped Nato supplies to mourn Hakim ullah Masud' - A statement he could have avoided but then he is joining the ranks of typical Pakistani politicians where name calling is prerequisite to further your agenda.

waseem
Dec 28, 2013 08:31pm

Bilawal, you will be a hero if you campaign for punishing Zardari and Nawaz for corruption. Are you up to the challenge?

owais
Dec 28, 2013 09:00pm

@Yogesh: Everybody thought same of his mother and the rest is history!

Ali
Dec 28, 2013 09:18pm

Now Zardari will back 5 yrs. to Nawaz

Lahori
Dec 28, 2013 09:23pm

Go take a gun and fight Talebans.

Ali
Dec 28, 2013 09:48pm

I am a Pakistani voter and I'd like to know why he deserves to be chief of PPP. I want his CV sent to me or published publicly so I could know his accomplishments in pursuit of making life better for people of Pakistan and understand on what basis is he claiming that he can be leader of people of Pakistan.

PS: Being son of Benazir only does not make him chief of PPP.

citizen
Dec 28, 2013 09:48pm

This is the new tragedy of Pakistan. Now all the tried and tested, the crooks, the 10 percenters and God knows who, are going to hide behind this 'call for jehad' against Taliban. For heaven's sake, just leave the miserable people of this unfortunate country alone. They have had enough!

nofool
Dec 28, 2013 10:00pm

Well put My village in Dadu is inundated---the drainage system in Hala where my cousin lives produces mines of servile mentality and human waste as well as trash while Moen-jo-Daro which I read about in my Sindhi textbook is kissing dust due to years of neglect. pls, rescue us first from our millenia of destitution first here in Sindh Mr.B where your party has been in power for, umm like just 40 years and then, declare your plans to wage a jehad or maybe even the third world war. But pls, do something about the mess that Sindh is in right now. . Gosh, can't you really see it? The establishment ain't responsible for the plethora of diseases that characterise Sindh son---time to wake up to the reality that your party is nothing but a band of incompetent policy makers with not even in iota of knowledge about good governance.

Mustafa
Dec 28, 2013 10:22pm

@Nadeem Chaudhry:

Chaudhry Sahib, you must have a different definition of "Democracy" than I do. You don't seem to be aware that the "demo" in democracy means "people" in Greek.

Mustafa
Dec 28, 2013 10:31pm

@Adnan A:

"This man is setting himself for failure."

No he is not. He is setting Pakistan for failure. Five years from now, if our president is not named Raheel Sharif, our prime minister would be named named Zardari, Asif or Bilawal.

Ali Rizwan
Dec 28, 2013 10:36pm

It good to see that Bilawal has finally decided to enter active politics, but i feel that he should not start as a face of leadership in PPP but should contest the elections and work within the party workers and in the assembly, be proactive instead of spending time criticizing other political leadership. He needs personal achievements before he can even lift a finger on another person. He should rise within the party not decent from the top, If he does that he will make his own mark within and outside the party and earn true respect as a political leader since general everyone looks at him as someone who is trying to hold-on to family dominance in the party not as a true believer in working for the benefit of the country, which of-course will help himself and the party regain its lost charm and sincerity.

Mustafa
Dec 28, 2013 10:39pm

@Desi:

"Bilal Bhutto in Pakistan seems to be a exact counterpart of Rahul Gandhi"

You seem to be Desi of some other Desh. It is not "Bilal" but "Bilawal". I am not just peeling hairs here, the distinction is important. "Bilal" has it's roots in Islamic history, "Bilawal" is from pre-islamic era, what we call Zamana-e-Jahilia.

amil
Dec 28, 2013 10:41pm

@edwardian: might be you right. but main responsibility of fighting rests on government.

Mohammed A. Sukhera
Dec 28, 2013 11:11pm

If you are looking to squeeze more money from the people of Pakistan, our pockets are empty and nothing left to survive. Pl. give us a break and go back to where your spent most of your adult life.We have heard these slogans and broken promises before. Its easy to talk than to deliver.. People in Sind don't have access to clean drinking water, no money to buy food or pay for any medical procedure/medicine. You are planning for a Sindh Festival and we don't see any reason to celebrate. What have you or your family accomplished to celebrate?

Anees
Dec 29, 2013 12:00am

Sitting in the UAE or UK and declaring war? He may declare an e-war.

independentthinker
Dec 29, 2013 12:55am

WOW! Bilawal Bhutto is calling Imran Khan - a "buzdil"! Coming from someone who hid himself in Dubai, as soon as his life was remotely threatened sounds comical! He is so full of nonsense - that I wonder if he has ever heard himself speak? Does he actually comprehend what he says and if he does and I am assuming he is of little intelligence and has conscience - he would definitely refrain from saying those words. All his words are in direct contradiction to his actions and I think the only reason he is getting away with it, is because most of the people he is speaking to - are illiterate and get all excited with the manner in which he speaks, not to mention he is using the last name of Bhutto. My advise to Bilawal - stop playing with the hearts and minds of innocent Pakistanis and go back to enjoying the millions that your parents have robbed the country of. Let the local population actually spend the hard earned money on themselves.

Akram Khan Niazi
Dec 29, 2013 02:14am

@mazhar sultan: Ask him to leave Sindh & go to Peshawar, KPK then challenge Talibans.He is a hero in Bilawal House & Larkana,of course we don't want another 'shaheed'

F
Dec 29, 2013 02:16am

His speeches may be sincere, but the fact that he hasn't DONE anything concrete makes me less likely to trust him. Other criticisms, such as him not living in Pakistan and being out of touch with the people, add to this. I also didn't like how he hurls insults at other politicians who have actually accomplished something. That is just my opinion. We all want the Taliban to be gone, but just talking big won't get anything done.

Zafar
Dec 29, 2013 03:52am

I wish there was another Pakistani, from the old or young: Moonises, Elahees and Shareefs having the same heritage of martyrdom and aspiring to such destiny in the service of the country. Best of luck Bilawal

Sher
Dec 29, 2013 04:58am

@Sohail Pirzada: All Bhuttos died un-natural death. Its true and written in the books and I think the guy who is 40 today is also witness of all deaths. All un-natural.

Shakeel Khan
Dec 29, 2013 05:04am

Great! Terrorists only understand their language of violence and terror. Army/force can be successful but you need to stop the double game by the establishment. The establishment is to blame for the failures of any action. The govt. needs to have ONE voice against terror. Army should not take it lying down. Action in Waziristan is a positive step towards the seriousness of the situation. Don't mess with Pak Army, don't mess with Pakistan sovereignty! Lets get serious about it and deal with these animals....

Agha Ata
Dec 29, 2013 05:12am

What is Bilawal's next step after this declaration? Is he going to command the army to fight Taliban?

Mansoor
Dec 29, 2013 05:58am

Mr.Bilawal, this is the 21st century, you can not make us fool by only chanting meaningless slogans and describing your mother and grandfather. The performance of your party from 2008 to 2013 is before us, in that tenure it only focused on completing the term rather than delivering good governance. For that purpose, it even went to the extent of helping and giving the free hand to the terrorists, extortionists and blackmailors. The prices of daily commodities travelled with the speed of light. Not even a single closed school opened nor a single industrial unit established. Because of these and many other reasons the voters voted for those who were the strong candidates against the PPP candidates. This is why your party (band of corrupt politicians) couldn't form government in the centre. Even in Sindh, had the returning officers not changed the results your party would not have won even a single seat.

Haque Khan
Dec 29, 2013 06:23am

Great start Bilawal -- Your bravery is admirable -- Be safe and God bless you.

Mohsin
Dec 29, 2013 06:27am

Pakistan is not a kingdom for God's sake. I hate this class system, When did Muslim start having this? This might be Ok in our neighbor country but we are Islam followers. What is his significance beside son or grandson of someone. Does qualification matter? If being relative of Shaheed is qualification why not make some brother of Nishan-e-Haidar ( presently our Army chief ) head of state and let him decide country's destiny.

mashood
Dec 29, 2013 06:54am

I commend Bilawal on his bold step to stand out against Taliban and the buddies. Clearly, he has brought a limelight and dim his chances of fighting against oppressor element, a minority with sheared psychosis, but dominates the majority of bemusement. I am not sure, how long, will he be able to stay in business. As, the proponents of TTP are even worse enemies of a regular Pakistani citizen, than the progenitor.

Hassan
Dec 29, 2013 07:02am

Lets have a live one on one debate with the Imran Khan on one of the channels. Lets see what you are made of Bilawal, you might come out as a victor. But do you have the guts to even dream of doing this, I doubt.

dildar
Dec 29, 2013 09:40am

Shame on all Pakistanis who let this kid make a fool of them.

Lahori
Dec 29, 2013 09:52am

If Pakistanis are not doing anything to stop corrupt Zardari, Bilawal and Nawaz then they deserve to be ruled by these people.

vigilant
Dec 29, 2013 10:15am

I am against PPP due to their rampart corruption but i support them for stand against TTP. A bold stand all we need to eradicate terrorism menace.

Bhatti
Dec 29, 2013 10:25am

You are really funny Bilawal.

Anees
Dec 29, 2013 11:48am

Look at the second-last photo carefully. Asif zardari has a pocket while his son doesn't. He will have once ( God unwilling ) he comes into power.

Ashraf Mirza USA
Dec 29, 2013 12:31pm

In my opinion , Mr. Bilawal must get on the street and help poor pakistani. Also open up schools for the poor kids , poor kids bagging on the street dont have money to eat. How those kids can go to school?? If you open up school with living facilities that would be great. If those kids given a chance they can become Doctors . Engineers. scientists, and so on. Most of the time you lived out side Pakistan. It will bring you more respect and love of the people of Pakistan. Please setup and example and Forget about POLITICS. I will be happy to join your organisation to help needy free of charge. God Bless the nation of Pakistan Sincerely, Ashraf Mirza (USA) ashwmirza@yahoo.com G

ahmad khan
Dec 29, 2013 02:54pm

we are very unfortunate people to have political party's leaders like him.He may challenge them of course because he has got safe hideouts abroad.(same way as he ran away during May Elections).May God Help us..

Kaspar
Dec 29, 2013 03:07pm

If one reads between the lines, his speech is calculated to please a certain power. The question is why didn’t the PPP declare war on the Taliban when in power? Just a few months ago, the PPP was in power, and the Taliban were there, too, alongwith terrorism and all the other evils accompanying it. Rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric, words full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. This has become the hallmark of our politicians. Nothing to show on the ground, they sustain themselves by fooling people with rosy promises and brave words. When out of power, they are lions, but when in power, they become jackals. Then they give all kinds of excuses for not acting against the miscreants, both religious and political, and get down to enriching themselves and their cronies. This is true of all, whether it is X and Son or Y Brothers, or Z and Co., short on issues, tall on non-issues and irrelevant matters.

SaeedS
Dec 29, 2013 07:19pm

With so many thumbs down against his statement against Taliban. It prove average educated Pakistani are the biggest supporter of Taliban and religious fanatic. No wonder whole world hate us.

Mike
Dec 29, 2013 10:25pm

When he and his father had 5 years of government from 2008 to 2013, why he didn't attack taliban?

Mike
Dec 29, 2013 10:27pm

@Haque Khan: brave? sitting in bullet proof walls and security of 10000 people, is it brave? why he doesn't go to waziristan to fight Taliban? Why they didn't attack Taliban when they were in government?

Mike
Dec 29, 2013 10:28pm

@Agha Ata: brave? sitting in bullet proof walls and security of 10000 people, is it brave? why he doesn't go to waziristan to fight Taliban? Why they didn't attack Taliban when they were in government?

independentthinker
Dec 30, 2013 01:53am

@Kaspar: Reading the responses - i feel optimistic - as I see most of us know that Bilawal Bhutto is up to! However, Pakistan is not filled with educated people and that is what worries me! It is these illiterate people who will end up voting for him and bringing him to power. I hope the people of Pakistan can see through this corrupt man and kick him out of the country - at the very least - don't ever let him govern the country. Pakistan deserves better!

k.B
Dec 30, 2013 09:22am

@Haque Khan: anyone can be brave when u are surrounded and protected by 100s of security personnel and live outside of the country and show up only to make immature and self contradictary statements.

fonzarelli
Dec 30, 2013 01:17pm

@SaeedS:

That is a premature statement. The thumbs down are not in support of the Taliban...they are in opposition to his party, the PPP, who only chant slogans and pay lip service when it suits them. Kaspar below is absolutely right...what did they achieve, while the Taliban were gaining their grip over the country...NOTHING!

Muhammad
Dec 30, 2013 07:26pm

Mr. Bilawal doesn't has the decency to reject the name of Bhutto from being his last name just to gain political sympathies....They think they can do whatever they can whenever they can and get away with it....Dynastic politics should come to an end....Pakistan's requirements are Foreign Relations, Economic and Energy specialist; not these spoilt brats who don't even know how to live in the streets of Pakistan as an ordinary man. Pakistan is a leaderless country right now thanks to the over dependency on foreign say.

sharif
Dec 30, 2013 07:40pm

Bilawal - We need action and results not faltu talk.

Tufail
Dec 30, 2013 07:41pm

Like father like son . Bilawal is a person who changed his name for political gains. If there is such a thing as genes for corruption , he has inherited all of them from both sides of his family. If Bilawal is so angry at Talibans , the least he can do for his country is join Pak forces and go to Waziristan. If he considers joining the forces difficult due to his intellectual limitations, he can go there and fight against them by joining many volunteers.

Chaudhry
Dec 30, 2013 07:46pm

Talk is cheap Bilawal - You guys only make speeches, do corruptions, and enjoy life. You are not serious in improve our country. You make money and go away.

waseem
Dec 30, 2013 07:49pm

We work hard to earn just enough to live on a daily basis. All our politicians are either making speeches, attending talk shows, living a lavish life, enjoying vacations in the west -- When do they work to earn their living.