23 August, 2014 / Shawwal 26, 1435
The clerics committee also requested local shopkeepers not to sell goods to women who are shopping alone in bazaars.   — File Photo by AP
The clerics committee also requested local shopkeepers not to sell goods to women who are shopping alone in bazaars. — File Photo by AP

PESHAWAR: A committee of local clerics (ulema) in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Karak district banned the entry in markets of women who are not accompanied by a 'mehram' (close male family member).

The local clerics committee of Khattak Ittehad held a meeting at the Tehsil Masjid Karak, headed by former district amir of Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam Hafiz Abne Amin on Friday decided that women roaming in the city bazaars (markets) without male members of their family were a source of spreading vulgarity in the society and should be stopped.

The meeting which was also attended by Mualana Mir Zaqeem, Mualana Abdul Rehman and other clerics.

The clerics also met the local administration and the police to implement the decision but they had refused to facilitate the implementation of this decision.

When contacted, Mir Zaqeem who is the head of Khattak Ittehad, Karak city said that the decision was taken because most unaccompanied women were becoming a source of spreading vulgarity, especially in the holy month of Ramazan.

He added that a group of such women (without a mehram) were also involved in theft and robberies.

The Maulana further said that unaccompanied women in bazaars was not only against local Pakhtun culture but also against religious norms.

He added that those women who were accompanied by a mehram would not be stopped from coming to bazaars.

The clerics committee also requested local shopkeepers not to sell goods to women who are shopping alone in bazaars.

Reaction of civil society

Resident Director of Aurat Foundation Shabina Ayaz said that the decision of the ulema was a violation of fundamental human rights and was a denial of a woman's right to live on her own will.

She added that the state must act swiftly to ensure women rights.

She further said a few individuals should not have the authority to decide for 48 per cent womenfolk who had equal rights as any male member of the society in Pakistan.

Qamar Nasim the programme coordinator of a civil society organisation has termed the ban a gross violation of the women rights and demanded that authorities take action against the culprits invloved.

Nasim said a similar step was taken last year before Eid as well but due to pressure from the civil society the administration had the decision reversed.

The chief executive of Paiman Trust, Mussarat Qadeem is of the view that this order is morally, ethically and humanly an act of gross women right violation and an injustice with women.

If the jirgas and the local committees are so concerned about the women, they should come to their help and provide the daily needs to the destitute women at their doorsteps.

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AHA
Jul 19, 2013 06:30pm

One day, this is how the whole of Pakistan will become. Time to start packing my suit cases.

Rabia
Jul 19, 2013 06:35pm

So what does a women do, if say for example her husband is ill (or she doesn't have one) and she has no brother, son, or father. Starve? This is crazy, and disgusting, and its not Islam. Its only something twisted inside the heads of these men.

Sadaat.
Jul 19, 2013 06:34pm

Pathetic and shocking. "Sharaf mein burh k surraya sey musht-e-khaak iss kee----Keh hur sharaf hey issee durj kaa dur-e-maknoon". Iqbal.

akram
Jul 19, 2013 06:38pm

These clerics should be arrested for interfering with the law, it is not their business to dictate who can and who cannot go shopping. Police need to find the local Taliban who prompted this nonsense.

Sadaat.
Jul 19, 2013 06:39pm

Translation" Her handful clay is superior far to Pleiades that so higher are----For every man with knowledge vast, like gem out of her cask is cast"

Omer Khitab
Jul 19, 2013 06:53pm

The very first ever street news from KARAK, Dawn can get many positives news from karak every day,the news haS NOT BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY LOCAL NEWS PAPER EVEN.

AZMAT KHAN
Jul 19, 2013 07:01pm

It is only a matter of time.Soon a Lahorite female would not dare to go out of the four walls of home with out a mehram escort.This is the Islam of Taliban and mullas.

Agha Asad Raza
Jul 19, 2013 07:02pm

These clerics should have their beards shaved for passing such an un-Islamic order!

aamir cheema
Jul 19, 2013 07:16pm

good decision in line with the culture.

khalid saeed
Jul 19, 2013 07:17pm

i fail to understand how a woman is a source of vulgarity and who are these clerics to interpret provisions of Islam for us and impose their moribund views .The police should have registered a case against these so called Maulanas and proceeded against them . The civil society organizations instead of just issuing statements should actually move the courts against them and where are PTI loyalists who were crying for change , is thsi the change they voted for?-- isn't PTI supposed to provide good governance in KPK

aysha
Jul 19, 2013 07:39pm

This news brought tears in my eyes. According to Reuters report, Pakistan is worlds third most dangerous country for women(Afghanistan #1, conga #2). I am wondering, women who have to go to work, school and dont have a male members in the house, what are they going to do? single/widow women who go out to earn bread for their children, what are they going to do? cant these Islamic clerics ever put any restrictions on men? Majority of women in pakistan are sexually harassed when they step out of the house. Cant they think of a system where a man is punished for sexually harassing a woman who stepped out of the house to work or get education? 80% of Pakistani women are victim of domestic violence (especially in rural areas), can someone ask these clerics about those women???

Asif A. Shah
Jul 19, 2013 07:42pm

There are other ways to stop vulgarity in the bazaars without encroaching upon the rights of the women. I am not familiar with Karak , however, it is a part of Pakistan. There are thousands of women in Pakistan who struggle to survive without a " meharm" 's assistance at hand all the times. Would not such in injunction would prohibit a woman to take a sick child to the doctor in an emergency when there is no " meharm" at hand?

Ali K
Jul 19, 2013 07:51pm

It is so misleading to suggest that the Islamic injunctions are against the spirit of human rights. In Islamic republic of Pakistan, the argument against such apparent Islamic trends should not be to show that they are against human rights, rather it should be to show that these trends are not Islamic, which is also the truth. The Islamic government should be more active to discourage and denounce such so-called Islamic bans. Other than the government, no one can have the authority to declare and enforce such bans.

Ahmed Khan
Jul 19, 2013 07:58pm

This is so ridiculous. The weak men who can't control themselves put this kind of stupid laws in place. When a woman will be with mehram, then they will not say or do anything stupid. This law is to save themselves. Women traveled and traded alone in the times of the holy Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him).

ji
Jul 19, 2013 08:01pm

so funny

RM
Jul 19, 2013 08:11pm

Only one solution for these clerics - gather them all together and place them in an enviroment where there are no women. Lets see how long they survive - they are nothing but ignorant old men.

Gerry D'Cunha
Jul 19, 2013 08:25pm

what about those women fork who do not have close relitives - will she die of hunger in her four walls? what is wrong with these muslim clerics - why are they making a fool of themself and islam - that's the reason why islam is a backward religion

Ali
Jul 19, 2013 08:27pm

Why haven't these so called Ulema been arrested?

Chris
Jul 19, 2013 08:32pm

How wonderful! Makes one wonder.

GA
Jul 19, 2013 08:47pm

Leave Saudi laws in Saudi Arabia. Islam of these clerics start with women's issues and end with women's issues. The rest of the world has moved so far ahead thanks to these mullahs keeping the Islamic world in the Stone Age.

WithBrain
Jul 19, 2013 09:26pm

This is sad and at the same time laughable decision. Sad because, these clerics have no clue about human rights because they are brought up by the families where their mother and sisters are oppressed, beaten, disrespected and humiliated in the name of religion. OUR religion (Islam) is the religion which provided the rights to women and not oppress them. Our society build up and character relies on women. And this is how we treat our society and character, and generation builders. This is how we tell our mothers and sisters that they cannot even walk free in the society which has already taken away their voices and rights to vote. IT'S A SHAME. These are the types who are pushing youngsters away from religion and creating frustrations. Their leaders don't practice these things and I can name few on top hat have their kids (sons and daughters) studying and working abroad among unknown people, and without mehram, and do everything that these guys guys blame on west. Look inside your own characters first.

babar
Jul 19, 2013 09:29pm

Unfortunately PTI which claims to make new Pakistan is also supporting this decision. There is no word from PTI.

Yemeen Zuberi
Jul 19, 2013 09:31pm

The clerics need to read and study the history of Bibi Aysha (RA).

baqar hasan
Jul 19, 2013 09:55pm

What a shame these illiterate so called Aalims bring to Islam. Instead of banning them from baazars create women run baazars or shops for them or provide protection to them instead of making them the root cause of vulgarity. What happens if a women's close family members are dead? She can never go to bazaar.

Pakistani
Jul 19, 2013 09:59pm

"If the jirgas and the local committees are so concerned about the women, they should come to their help and provide the daily needs to the destitute women at their doorsteps." Absolutely, Agreed with this statement from civil society, you are concerned about women, then facilitate them, otherwise shut your mouth, so called mullahs, making their own decisions without seeing the violations and stupidity they are doing on illogical issues. May ALLAH keep all the Women of Pakistan save from any evil in the holy month of RAMADAN. Ameen. Somma Ameen.

Haider
Jul 19, 2013 09:59pm

First women were barred from voting and now this.

I wonder what Imran Khan has to say for this???? Whining about Stop drones, or may be its Zardari's fault or MQM terrorizing women or may be just not a fair election. If he really care about this country the first thing he should do, bring his children from London and send them to same school where Malala was going.

MG
Jul 19, 2013 09:59pm

Oh for the love of God; really? Must we continue this fight against women?Must we continue to inject and then enforce our own belief system in the practice of Islam? Is this really necessary? And what about the role of men in public (yes that means around women)? No? Nothing? They are exempt from this version of Islam? Wonderful.

Akhter Husain
Jul 19, 2013 10:04pm

Can Ulema take decisions of their own when their is a legitimate government in place and working?.It would have been better for them to approach the legislators for such a.law.Taking the law in ones own hand is nothing but rebellion and criminal The government should prosecute them for this violation. .

kamal
Jul 19, 2013 10:07pm

Wat will happen if a women goes alone for shopping ? is there any police/ court to stop such laws ?

majid
Jul 19, 2013 10:31pm

stone age?

Akbaruddin
Jul 19, 2013 11:02pm

So a widow or divorcee with female children should not venture out of their houses. These clerics should provide them food and other items at their door step everyday. If not these clerics should be thrashed in public everyday.

ailly
Jul 19, 2013 11:16pm

I must say, its people like leaders of PMLN, ANP, JUIF and their other allies who are conspiring against PTI by provoking such acts.... indeed Pakhtuns were already of the same plight, but such recent acts are being enticed by above named parties who want to destabilize PTI in KPK. If such is the case, then all such miscreants must remember their governments in other provinces and center will soon be ushered to follow in foot-steps of PPP, empty handed and out of ring for once and all. PMLn is already nose-diving because of their lunatic policies which are heading nation nowhere, rather much garbage and rubbish being heaped on us from all corners. No respite in the offing. A mehram or no mehram Pathans cannot be fooled for long by these parties and sooner they will face music in their very own province.

Md Imran
Jul 19, 2013 11:18pm

whats wrong in asking for a mehram ? Its an age old practice that ensures security of women..

Hasan Awan
Jul 19, 2013 11:22pm

So if someone only have daughters and at an Old age the father cannot accompany them everywhere so what should they do then. From where to find Mahram everytime?

Mubashir
Jul 19, 2013 11:42pm

"......If the jirgas and the local committees are so concerned about the women, they should come to their help and provide the daily needs to the destitute women at their doorsteps....."

Well said.

Sarwat Hasan
Jul 19, 2013 11:45pm

What non sense. What if she does not have mehram. Or away from home or abroad for earning purposes. The very freedom and security ordained by Allah and in turn our holy prophet pbuh gave to women has been taken away by these bearded so called mullahs, who knows nothing about Islam besides reciting Quran like a parrot. They have zero understanding of Quran and Islam. And the inept government fails to establish its writ at every step and let the masses do as they please including violation of someone's right and freedom. Shame on you government of Pakistan, you will be held accountable on the day of judgement for not extending the same liberties as Islam had to females and minorities. Where is the CJ sleeping.

Immad
Jul 20, 2013 12:12am

The first thing of democracy is supremacy of constitution and elimination of elements who try to implement their own version of law which are in conflict to the constitution. This so called ban is a clear violation of the constitution of Pakistan. Lets see our constitutionaly elected PML N government tries to uphold the constitution or not.

Wizarat
Jul 20, 2013 12:15am

I wonder who was the Mahram for Ummul momineen Bibi Ayesha (may Allah be pleased with her) in the battle of Camels (Jung-e-Jamal) against the 4th Caliph of Islam.

Shafiq
Jul 20, 2013 12:15am

Mr Cheif Justice are you going to take a suo moto against this unconstitutional step? We believe in your credibility to ensure supremacy of the constitution.

Yasir
Jul 20, 2013 12:18am

Dear Mr Chief Justice it is so disappointing to see that some human right activist are ahead of you in condemning this unconstitutional action. We are waiting for your strict action against this jirga, to set an example for all those who mock the constitution by enforcing their own laws.

fatima
Jul 20, 2013 12:24am

excellent initiative!

Sad Pakistani
Jul 20, 2013 01:35am

and our progress to the dark ages continues. just one question to the scholars, is this an issue or concern on top of your list? everything else is all good in our country?

Khizr
Jul 20, 2013 01:40am

Question to Mr. Hafiz Abne Amin: How is a woman attired in modest Islamic clothes promoting vulgarity?

Farhat Farhan
Jul 20, 2013 02:00am

This is very unfair with the women......not giving the rights to women is an old story still it prevails.....mahram namahram issues on the other hand also hurt women.But we say its 21st century and women have freedom of many things now,who will take the stand for these women??

Jamal
Jul 20, 2013 03:32am

One word for them - ANIMALS

Omar
Jul 20, 2013 10:12am

Maybe we should ban all retarded men from roaming around and staring at women for perverted desires. Maybe they should be allowed only when their "mommy" comes along to keep these perverted mullahs in check.BTW women is bazaars is not against Islamic norms as professed by jahil mullah.

Omar
Jul 20, 2013 10:13am

....BTW if ever there was a justification for drone attack,this is IT.

Imran
Jul 20, 2013 10:56am

Well well well. Is this the beginning of PTI lead KPK's shining example of a model province. God help us from the clerics. Innocent clerics cannot stand the burqa clad women just prancing around the market, but boys ..... are just fine ;)

sherie
Jul 20, 2013 12:04pm

wait a minute.... isnt the law making assembly the only people who can make laws? these men who declare such laws are at least delusional and at most terrorists and should be either sent to a psychiatrist or arrested and prosecuted

Ali S
Jul 20, 2013 01:42pm

Don't worry, these clerics are only going to get bolder as PTI naively brings them to the discussion table for 'talks'

sri
Jul 20, 2013 02:01pm

I fully support this. if they want sharia laws this is a must.

fA
Jul 20, 2013 02:07pm

I will question Resident Director of Aurat Foundation Shabina Ayaz, Qamar Nasim the programme coordinator of a civil society organisation & The chief executive of Paiman Trust, Mussarat Qadeem are they muslim? yes offcourse they are, unfortunately very impressed by western culture. They don't know their local & religious preaching. THIS IS OUR FATE.

We always speak shit what we have learn from Europe & USA. Human Rights. Where was human right when thousands of Muslim killed in Burma due to bad act of few. Where is the human right, when they disrespect ISLAM, where are they? Nowhere.

We should understand, what we have do to 7 why we are in this world.

M.Shafqat Murad
Jul 20, 2013 02:25pm

It's shocking and totally absurd idea that must be condemned in the harshest terms. We must arise all together to defend the basic human rights of all citizens as enshrined in the state constitution. We won't let anyone to hijacking the entire society for their personal whims and keep checking on personal freedom.

Rehan
Jul 20, 2013 02:26pm

Vulgarity is spread by the immoral men who choose NOT to lower their gazes when they see women, instead they stare at them even more as a minimum - the maximum I won't get into.

Whether the woman has a mahram with her or not makes no difference to such men. It is these men who should be punished, not the women who are fully covered and mind their own business. Come to Europe if you want to know what vulgarity is.

It seems these Maulanas are being selective in dishing out religious opinions and decrees. Somebody please enlighten them about the rights and respect given to women in Islam.

John McCormick
Jul 20, 2013 03:46pm

What century is this?

Nasiroski
Jul 20, 2013 04:03pm

Next time the threat of being bombed to stone age will not work for us, we are doing it ourselves. Maybe next threat to to Pakistan will be "we will bring you to technology age". Let's implement this "precious" piece of ... legislation all over Pakistan so the apologists here get to feel the pain first hand.

Gerry D'Cunha
Jul 20, 2013 04:23pm

this sort of 'zulam' on women folks can only be found in 'islam' - other religions have given women-folks equal rights

Alia
Jul 20, 2013 04:29pm

@aamir cheema: Notice that culture has nothing to do with religion an that Islam originally fought culture. I just don know how u and people like u think. There is nothing in Quran nor in Hadith forbids women from going out with out a mehram. You are just making Islam looks worse than it looks right now in the eyes of nonmuslims. Tell me how are u gonna have more converts with tho sick mentality

Amna
Jul 20, 2013 04:40pm

The title of the article is misleading. What ever the mad clerics have decided, the rule hasn't been implemented. You can't post a misleading title like that just to arrest people's attention.

As for the clerics, there'll always be such people who'd want to control and feel in power to satisfy their shameful egos. Its troubling when they're allowed to do so.

Saeed
Jul 20, 2013 04:45pm

@aamir cheema: More religion than culture. Take out religion from the society , many things change.

Rehan
Jul 20, 2013 04:48pm

@Gerry D'Cunha: Islam is not a backward religion, dont comment on it untill you have studied and fully understood it- your comments price you havent done so.

It's the mentality if the people which is backward which isn't influenced by Islam, rather by their culture. They just use Islam to enforce it

Anoop
Jul 20, 2013 05:57pm

Why don't some of the liberals who quote the Quran goto these Taliban and debate with them.

If its so overwhelmingly clear that these kinda things is not allowed, why not engage them? Or, are the Taliban actually right and the liberal Muslims wrong?

shayarbadnam
Jul 20, 2013 06:17pm

Is this imran khan so called NAYA PAKISTAN?

siddiqkarim@yahoo.com
Jul 20, 2013 06:54pm

where is imran khan the so called leader

liaqatgondal
Jul 20, 2013 06:58pm

This is state within state. This is equal to challenge laws of land. There should be a crack down on these 'mullahs'. By the way , is pervaiz khattak alive ?

Khalid
Jul 20, 2013 08:39pm

Hmmm, so women are comming out and harassing men... That is strange..... Mullah sahib, why don"t you declear a Fitwa against the hungry hounds instead.

Khan
Jul 20, 2013 08:42pm

NAYA Pakistan, any message from Imran Khan who is busy with save elephant charity? What about Saving women's ?

Samina
Jul 20, 2013 08:48pm

Rediculous!! And all of this is happening under a close watch of a PTI govt, who was elected in the first place by women voters.

TK
Jul 20, 2013 09:06pm

@AHA: .....and go where? Karak??

TCM
Jul 20, 2013 09:09pm

@Omer Khitab: Only want to hear the good news? Dont care about your sisters in islam? Shame on you.

Seedoo
Jul 20, 2013 10:06pm

If it does not take much for these men to get aroused at the sight of women, and they have no control over it, then perhaps they are the ones who should stay at home.

Naveed
Jul 20, 2013 10:09pm

This is the "new Pakistan" that Tehrek-e-insaf promised.

Tilsim
Jul 20, 2013 10:16pm

This restriction is wrong on several fronts. First of all they have no right to take away a right to freedom of movement. Secondly, the Sunnah of the Prophet and the practise of Muslims in general has no such restrictions. Thirdly, during Ramadan one has to exercise self control, not change the day to day environment such that the question of self control does not arise. Fourth, its an oppression and a hateful act. I also wonder if its illegal even by their laws.

Iftekhar Mahmood
Jul 20, 2013 10:31pm

If the Muslim world want to catch up with the modern world the first thing (besides many secondary things) they need to bend on that "we need to clean the Muslim societies from clerics" (I emphasize on 'clean').

Sara Akhter
Jul 20, 2013 11:05pm

These clerics don't know how hard it is to be a woman or know how we feel. It's funny how a few bad women may spread 'vulgarity' but all have to pay for it. What about men who go to markets and stare and sexually harass young women who are completely covered? Unlike many of you I have been to KPK and it's a stark contrast to rest of Pakistan. Even where you are fully covered (I wore a niqaab) and show no interest and with your father and with your family, they still touch, stare, add crude comments, and call you all these flirty things in KPK. And these men have beards! So should we ban all those men for spreading vulgarity? These clerics will never understand that Islam gave rights to women that many countries didnt give women till 18th century onwards. Okay, we don't need vulgarity, but a woman should be able to walk down the road, by herself, with modest clothing, without thinking it is the worst experience. Anyways in KPK you barely see women out. It's so different to Punjab and Sindh. I don't know how Balochistan is but I'm sure it's better than this archaic 'Pashtun' culture!

khanofkalabagh
Jul 21, 2013 12:08am

will the KPK Government do something about this or will pretend that this thing didn't happen?

Umair
Jul 21, 2013 12:16am

This is shocking and deplorable beyond comprehension.

kewl rizvi
Jul 21, 2013 12:24am

it is just becasue of illiteracy.

Kamran
Jul 21, 2013 12:54am

@majid: Stone age was better

Nasir
Jul 21, 2013 01:00am

@AZMAT KHAN: Bro, first study about parda and then react...

Ali K
Jul 21, 2013 03:22am

@aamir cheema: Culture is irrelevant when it is meant to curb someone's right. In Islam, only Islam matters, culture is meaningless if it violates Islam. In this particular instance this cultural tradition is unIslamic.

turab
Jul 21, 2013 04:09am

welcome to naya pakistan!

abdulazizansari
Jul 21, 2013 04:11am

The government should act fast, and use an iron hand to eliminate such elements These clerics should be arrested for interfering with the law, it is not their business to dictate who can and who cannot go shopping. Police need to find the local Taliban who prompted this nonsense.

Zecchetti
Jul 21, 2013 04:24am

@Rabia: Don't be silly, she can phone a relative to do the shopping for her. And that would be a rare case anyway. Most families there have at least a few sons I bet. Men should be men and women should be women.

hayder
Jul 21, 2013 06:42am

@Ali: you must be kidding

deva
Jul 21, 2013 06:47am

@majid: Not sure why female in Islamic country resist all these silly laws and teach their kids to become good human rather these stone age monsters

Yawar
Jul 21, 2013 07:09am

It is amazing to what lengths insecure men will go to continue to subjugate women.

Iqbal khan
Jul 21, 2013 07:51am

@RM: You don't want to know what they do in Madarsas.

Voice for true Islam
Jul 21, 2013 08:12am

Islam is a just faith, Allah has prohibited injustice and oppression, and ordained Muslims to protect the property and rights of fellow beings. These individuals have either failed to understand the spirit of Islam or they are willful participants in a schematic design to oppress and terrorize people (expecting that they will gain power or money through the process of oppression, disorder and looting/killing of individuals that follows this kind of oppression). If they are good muslims and follow the command of ALLAH as given in the holy Quran, then they will stand up for the rights of women, minorities and the weak and vulnerable in the society. They should thank ALLAH that their society then did not have crazy men like them at the time when they were vulnerable and dependant on their mothers ----- otherwise they could have starved to death as a child, if their father was dead and their mother did not have a male blood relation at her service. This is what could happen to vulnerable and poor families whose men are away in other cities or countries to earn livelihood or are unfortunately chronically sick. Worst of all they present “Islam” as their excuse, go ahead and put the blame on the Deen of the Creator and you will reserve your place in Hell, if you do not give up “Zulm” and repent. Women and minorities are the first targets of any oppression as you can see in Saudi Arabia and many other countries where Saudi’s exert their influence through pouring money as happened in the Zia ul-Haq era in Pakistan. The big question is whether Nawaz Sharif and company will follow in Zia’s footsteps (and let these corrupt people run parallel government to harass innocent people by false allegations and collective punishment as depicted by this article), then there is a real risk that Saudization of Pakistan will continue, or will they let Pakistan come back to Quaid-e-Azam’s Pakistan, so that not only the well placed men, but all people, including women, minorities and weak men can breathe freely and enjoy the freedom that ALLAH has given them as an inherent right for a term fixed (life-time!).

Rafiq Ali
Jul 21, 2013 09:09am

Men In ALL Pakistan Cities Barred From Leaving Home Without Female Mehram

... The decision was taken because most unaccompanied men were becoming a source of spreading vulgarity, especially in the holy month of Ramadan, through activities such as selling movie CDs, driving badly on streets and using abusive language, and causing stress to each other.

It was also added that many groups of such men (without a female mehram) were also involved in thefts, robberies, extortion, and violence across the country...

shaukat khattak
Jul 21, 2013 11:35am

@AHA: i m realy proud of my khattak tribe today

ali
Jul 21, 2013 02:54pm

@Gerry D'Cunha: I would say Islam is not a backward religion but some of its followers are

bangash
Jul 21, 2013 06:12pm

@fA: Your rambling post makes no sense.

ali
Jul 22, 2013 02:05am

@Anoop: there is no such thing as liberal muslim.

Anonymous
Jul 22, 2013 03:58am

Muslims all over the world simply hate knowledge, education, and progress. A friend of mine said that if you really want to hurt Muslims don't bomb them - they love death anyway.

Instead, drop books on them - that will really get them upset.

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 08:58am

@Rafiq Ali: Love it! Well done!

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 09:06am

@Imran: boys with bottles of oil

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 09:06am

@Farhat Farhan: The women must take the stand for themselves!

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 09:11am

@Md Imran: It denies the independence of women. It is belittling for an adult to be treated as a child.Think how you would feel if was the other way around?

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 09:13am

@Md Imran: Far better to ensure the security of women, by teaching men to behave properly!

illawarrior
Jul 22, 2013 09:15am

@RM: Better still, place them in an environment where there are only women, and the women have full authority over them, and have them act as servants to the women.

insomniac
Jul 22, 2013 11:24am

are these guys for real ? i don't understand what are the authorities doing when the society and specially women folks need them the most.. whats happening ?

p r sharma
Jul 22, 2013 01:32pm

What is the stand of the administration. Either they are endorsing silently or they should arrest the persons concerned to declare such ban. ( even if it is not implemented) . If their acts are not deterred men you are allowing them to continue/ encourage. same is applicable for the civil society. unless they come on the streets opposing the ban all else in the news paper / channels are useless. Choice lies with the people .

JkR
Jul 22, 2013 03:24pm

@turab: yes i agree we pakistanis should follow islam