BEIJING: An outspoken Chinese general known for his nationalist views warned India on Thursday against stirring up “new trouble” in a long-running border dispute, just as New Delhi's defence minister was set to visit Beijing.

“The Indian side should not provoke new problems and increase military deployment at the border areas and stir up new trouble,” Major General Luo Yuan told reporters.

Luo, the deputy-director general of the world military research department at a People's Liberation Army academy, described himself at a briefing as a “reasonable hardliner”.

His articles appear prominently in state media and he has 320,000 followers on Sina Weibo, a popular Twitter-like microblogging site.

He made waves last year with comments questioning the legitimacy of Japanese sovereignty over the Ryukyu Islands, a chain that includes Okinawa and hosts numerous United States military bases.

“India is the only country in the world that says that it is developing its military power because of China's military threat,” said Luo, who was wearing a business suit.

“So I believe that India should be very cautious in what it does and what it says.” A high-altitude frontier dispute between the nuclear-armed giants in the Himalayas has simmered for decades but intensified in May over troop movements in the region.

New Delhi alleged Chinese troops intruded nearly 20 kilometres (12 miles) into Indian-claimed territory.

A three-week standoff ensued and was resolved after talks between local military leaders and a withdrawal of troops from both sides.

The border situation was now generally “under control” following a visit to India in May by Chinese Premier Li Keqiang, Luo said.

His comments came as Indian defence chief A.K. Antony was due to arrive in China late Thursday for three days of talks, the first such trip in seven years.

Antony's visit, on which he is accompanied by top Indian military commanders, coincides with a trip to China by Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

Pakistan, India's nuclear-armed neighbour and arch-rival, is a longstanding close ally of Beijing. Chinese officials describe their relationship with Islamabad as one between “all weather friends”.

Covering a wide range of topics, Luo touched on China's history of humiliation by foreign powers in the 19th and 20th centuries.

“No other major country in this world has been subjected to foreign aggression and invasion by other major countries, so that is why no other country is more eager than China to become strong,” he said.

Besides India, Luo also took swipes at the US and the Philippines over a territorial row China has with the Southeast Asian country.

Calling the US “biased,” he said Washington has “added fuel to the fire” by cooperating with Manila amid the maritime dispute.

“The role of the Philippines in the South China Sea is actually, in my view, a troublemaker,” he said.

On Sunday, Manila accused Beijing of a “massive” military build-up in the sea, which is also the site of rival claims by Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan.

Asked by AFP if Beijing's close ally North Korea -- which this year threatened to attack the US with nuclear weapons -- was also a “troublemaker,” Luo suggested, albeit indirectly, that it was.

He referred to a speech Chinese President Xi Jinping gave in April saying there should be no tolerance for those fostering “chaos for selfish gains”, wording widely seen at the time as criticising Pyongyang without mentioning it by name.

“So we can imagine which country it is or which countries they are that are engaged in undermining peace and stability in our neighbouring environment for their own selfish gains,” Luo said.

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dr vimal raina
July 4, 2013 9:02 pm

You are a patriot and it is you duty to fight for you country. That does not make us less patriotic and less determined to fight for our country. You do not scare us Sir, nor does your brother-in-arms Pakistan.

dr vimal raina
July 4, 2013 9:03 pm

You are a patriot and it is you duty to fight for you country. That does not make us less patriotic and less determined to fight for our country. You do not scare us Sir, nor does your brother-in-arms Pakistan.

Chintamani Gokhale
July 4, 2013 9:08 pm

The Chinese Dragon will, one day, eat the Indo-Gangetic Plain.It needs lebens raum.

July 4, 2013 9:11 pm

Chinese are practical people . I don't think they want another Vietnam or Philippines or Japan around them . They also know India is not one of them .

July 4, 2013 9:21 pm

is he trying to say, china is the only peace loving country in the world. but the whole world knew they have countless controversies with its every neighbour like sitting on Tibet, demanding the entire South China Sea, island and long term rows with Japan, plans to extend its boundary on India and demanding Arunachal Pradesh, accusing Pakistan's hand on its internal ethnic issues, helping North Korea like rogue states. Better he should smell himself before pointing others.

Md Imran
July 4, 2013 9:17 pm

We Pakistanis are forever thankful to China and its brave sons like Gen Luo. Without China and Pakistan, Indian hegemonic designs would have swallowed half of Asia. Pak-China zindabad ! Forver!

July 4, 2013 9:37 pm

I hope to see Indians comment on this with the same hegemonic ego they do regarding such issues between Indian and Paksitan which are reported by Dawn!!!! With smiles.

July 4, 2013 9:51 pm

China is only country who has border dispute with all neighbors including Pakistan who gave part of land it had snatched from India to china.

July 4, 2013 10:04 pm

yes. .India has ONLY to face China if required,..Pakistan can and will never be NO 1 threat to India in any field be it military,economics,sports,cultural ,scientific advancement,,name any except ONE.... Is that NOT the fact..

Pankaj Patel
July 4, 2013 10:00 pm

Mild mannered A K Anthony should ignore comments by the General and concentrate on increasing ties between the two countries.China is biggest treading partner of India and that should not be ignored.

V. C. Bhutani
July 4, 2013 10:18 pm

Maj Gen Luo’s views cannot be – and shall not be – ignored in India. In any case, we see no distinction between hawkish and so-called ‘liberal and progressive’ elements in China. We see nothing like a free press or freedom of thought and expression in China. Views carried by newspapers must be regarded as attitude and policy of the Chinese government. I cannot visualize anyone in China speaking in a personal capacity. Gen Luo has chosen some hard words, which should ensure that the visiting Indian defence minister shall achieve next to nothing. If the Chinese establishment can allow the likes of Gen Luo to speak in this manner, then they should have spared themselves the labour and the effort in welcoming a visitor from India. Reiteration of Chinese claim to Arunachal Pradesh is a reminder that the boundary question is nowhere near resolution. V. C. Bhutani, Edinburgh, 4 Jul 2013, 1820 GMT

July 4, 2013 10:26 pm

Communist China is a global troublemaker and an expansionist power.

Ravi Ingale from University of Pune
July 4, 2013 11:01 pm

Congratulation Pakistan, for your new smiling.

July 4, 2013 11:47 pm

Looks like the chinese army has imported the likes of mush.

Bharat Patel
July 5, 2013 1:44 am

Easiest way is to give them anything they want - even if does not belong to you - as has happened in Pakistani Kashmir. Then of course censor and hide everything

July 5, 2013 1:56 am

This general needs therapy. He has to understand this world is not ready to live with their aggression and bellicosity in browbeating every neigbhour, with an exception of poodle Pakistan.

July 5, 2013 2:22 am

Mr.LUO is not in good route to make good friends & solutions as neigbours as giant India, vietnam, philippines, Brunei, malaysia, singapore and Taiwan. Luo think he can win by war It's impossible and bad consequence for China. Today in the world the Chineese products "Made in China" no one's buy be'cause no relaiable quality but Made in India all world likes to buy ! ! !

Naveed Khan
July 5, 2013 3:21 am

Chinese Generals statement is timely and factual. A lot of Indians would take notice. India has been assertive driven by USA and Japan. Indian stance on every dispute between China and its neighbors has been anti-China. It is not clear what does India want by creating Anti-China hysteria in its media.

Afzal Khan
July 5, 2013 4:12 am

Indains are going to China especialy to cause problem between Pakistan and China just like they did in Europe and in USA but Chains are more smarter than Indians they knows what Indians has in their sleeves they are like Snakes as soon as the get chance the Indians will back stab Pakistan. Now the American and europeans knows how sneaky these Indains are.

July 5, 2013 5:08 am

"He referred to a speech Chinese President Xi Jinping gave in April saying there should be no tolerance for those fostering “chaos for selfish gains”, wording widely seen at the time as criticising Pyongyang without mentioning it by name."

Not really, it is hard to see how could president Jinping be referring to North Korea. The president was speaking in the context of China's maritime territories being claimed by a gang of pro-West countries from as far away as India.

The Indian naval chief was being a loose cannon about the maritime dispute. The wise Chinese instead of replying just gave the Indians a few hours to scare themselves. The naval chief soon realized that he is out of his depth (all puns are intentional) and issued another statement to back paddle.

July 5, 2013 6:57 am

Lou the Lone Ranger surrounded by the trouble makers.

July 5, 2013 9:09 am

China worry about Pakistan and don't worry about India, don't care about India, Pakistan is the most powerful country in the world.

July 5, 2013 10:12 am

Sharif and Antony in Beijing at same time :) Interesting. Not sure whether China planned this way.

Hope peace prevails in the region and all three countries spend less on defence and more on development.

July 5, 2013 2:58 pm

dear chinese general ; you r not a us army general to warn India, you r mostly dependent of russian arms we import 50%arms from russia and 50% from America , European union and Israel......America & European union don't want to sell their state of the art weoponary to keep distance from India.

July 5, 2013 5:49 pm

@dr vimal raina: Wonderful reply

July 5, 2013 6:30 pm

@Md Imran: No wonder we have a lot of Hazara looking kids in Pakistan nowadays-all made in China.BTW shall we forget our ummah the uighurs

July 5, 2013 8:29 pm

@hindusthani: Wake up and smell the coffee brother. Visit any household, any and you will find 'Made in China' item. Try your own country. Chao

July 6, 2013 3:55 am

@dr vimal raina: Ha Ha Ha

July 6, 2013 7:43 pm

@Md Imran: I don't think Pakistan is useful for India, China biased to Pakistan only because of business one day china will occupy Pakistan.

July 6, 2013 9:36 pm

@Shai: hahaha its a joke of millananium i think

July 7, 2013 12:46 am

@Sam how could they while their hearts are full of hatred for muslims

Prakash Sharma
July 7, 2013 3:46 am

I am reading Dawn out of curiosity that what is happening in Pakistan with a new Govt. in place. One thing is sure the Partition of India has done no good to the people and economy of both the countries. In the fight between two brothers, others like China, USA, Europe are enjoying, exploiting us, keeping us poor. China is even ready to capture both India and Pakistan gradually and Pakistan Govt calls China as all weather friend. So sad to hear that. They are outsiders, out to marginalise us, and we call them all weather friend. What a pity?

Vikki, Pul Bangash, Dilli
July 7, 2013 5:52 am

@Shai: Yeah, right, already saw that in Abbottabad..................everyone knows.........

El Cid
July 7, 2013 12:11 pm

@dr vimal raina: “You do not scare us Sir, nor does your brother-in-arms Pakistan.”

Ha, ha, ha. Good one!

Your very pretense here suggests you’re whistling in dark...not just scared of the “Iron Brother” but terrified of the wiser elder one standing by, watching whats coming your way.


July 7, 2013 12:15 pm

@Naveed Khan: Every country in a border issue will defend its perspective. Calling India anti-china because India is trying to defend it's borders with China is not a very wise thing. If Pakistan had a border issue with China and China tried to encroach even Pakistan would react to China in a similar way. A country is not a person. It is a group of politicians and executives that run it, they cannot give away land because they fear losing political vote bank. This stands true for every country whether it is India or Pakistan or China or SriLanka or Japan or whoever. IMHO, border issues can be best solved by give and take.

July 7, 2013 12:22 pm

@Md Imran: There is no other logic to this friendship than "Dushman ka dushman = dost". China and Pakistan are as different as cheese and chalk.

July 7, 2013 12:33 pm

Pakistan who??? China ummm never heard of em

Maqbool Basha
July 7, 2013 1:13 pm

That man is not a general, but a retired general and do not have any official position in the Government or authorized to issue statements.

July 7, 2013 6:26 pm

Luo Yuan - Good to know that you feel we have caused you 'trouble'. More on the way, buddy! With love and affection.

Ashok B.
July 7, 2013 6:27 pm

There is BIG difference in 1961 and 2013.Big Brother china must understand and keep this in mind before making a statement to the press. India has not forgotten 1962 and Indians are itching to put their hands on the Chineese necks and put them in their place.China has back stabbed every country they have once hugged as a brother nation.Pakistan should always keep this in mind.its china who 's national symbol is a dragon so it is not wise to call India a snake.

July 7, 2013 8:42 pm

There is no such thing as freedom of the press in China. Hence nothing is mentioned in the Chinese press without sanction by the government. Lou's statements were almost expected. China loves to pretend that it's an enigma, one hand of friendship and a dagger in another. The problem with using this approach too often though, is that it becomes very predictable. That's why when one talks to the Chinese, your best cards are always close to your heart and never on the table. Antony brushed aside Lou's remarks the only time he referred to them by saying that his talks were with 'official people'. The fact that the GOI didn't give too much importance in terms of publicity, to this visit is evidence that nothing much was expected to happen. In spite of this, a few things got underway... From a PTI report: --- some forward movement on the BDCA (Border Defence Cooperation Agreement); though the Indian External Affairs Minister has mentioned that India is 'in no hurry' to resolve border disputes with China --- military exchanges between the countries to be resumed after a gap of 5 years, with participation in anti-terrorism exercises in Kunming in October --- annual exchange visits from military commanders --- increased visits of ships, joint maritime research and rescue exercises by both navies; joint anti-piracy operations --- PLA hospital ship "Peace Ark" to visit Mumbai this August --- Air forces to have high level exchange visits and functional exchanges to focus on flight safety, aviation medicine and training - annual exchanges between military training institutions

For a trip with such low expectations, one assumes this is a good beginning. As for General Lou, he is regularly used to execute China's good-cop-bad-cop routine, but his predictability has become kind of a joke. Yes, we get the point, and no, nobody ever takes China at face value...:-)

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