Imran Khan: If criminals can run the country why can’t Amir play cricket?
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KARACHI: Legendary Pakistan allrounder Imran Khan said he backs convicted spot-fixer Mohammad Amir's return to international cricket, urging sceptical players and fans to support the tainted paceman.
The 23-year-old Amir, who completed his five-year ban earlier this year, caused a stir last week when he turned up for fitness camp for prospective national players, with former Twenty20 captain Mohammad Hafeez and current one-day captain Azhar Ali boycotting training Friday.
Left-armer Amir is tipped to be selected for next month's limited-overs tour of New Zealand, almost six years after he and two others were banned and sentenced to six months in jail for arranging deliberate no-balls during a Test against England in exchange for money.
Khan, who led Pakistan to its only World Cup victory and is revered among the country's cricketing fraternity, said Amir had pleaded guilty before a court and deserved another chance.
“A 19-year-old [Amir was actually 18 at the time] boy commits a mistake and then did not lie in the court, confesses his guilt and completes his punishment, he should play again,” Khan said in an interview on news channel ARY.
“He has apologised to everyone so I appeal to all those who are opposing his return to stop their moves against him,” he added.
Khan, a former Pakistan captain turned opposition party leader, did not miss an opportunity to swing a punch at Pakistan's leaders in the interview.
“Criminals are running the country, so it is irrational that someone who has completed his sentence is opposed on his return,” he said.
Before Amir's ban, Khan had described him as “the hottest property in international cricket”, while another legendary paceman, Wasim Akram, said Amir was better than him at age 18.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) meanwhile has asked former captain Shoaib Malik to take Amir under his wing in the forthcoming Pakistan Super League (PSL), a Twenty20 league where both will play for the Karachi Kings.
The league is set to feature international stars like Chris Gayle and Kevin Pietersen and will be held in the UAE in February.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:42pm
Good logic. Well done! keep it up
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Dec 28, 2015 07:43pm
Sensible. Now nobody will dare oppose Amir's return.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:43pm
100 % agree with you. God Bless you.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:45pm
The mighty Khan has finally spoken and as usual, he is spot on.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:47pm
Plight of a nation when the Man on whom people rest their hopes for change makes such comparisons....The job of leading and setting the agenda of the nation should rest with intellectuals and not populists.....
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Dec 28, 2015 07:50pm
I agree with Imran that Amir should be allowed to play. He should not have dragged politics into this.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:51pm
Amir's return to international cricket should be accompanied with humility, instead of bold justifications. That criminals are running the show elsewhere, is hardly a justification for another convict to be paraded with pride elsewhere. Amir is returning more on a legal basis than a moral basis: legalities of ICC allow him to play. That clears the way for him to return. However, moral arguments in his favour are not so strong: let's admit it that had our bowling attack not been so weak, Amir would never have returned.
Those calling for another chance in "life", must remember that doctors can not practice again after getting convicted for malpractice. Likewise, a court martial leaves no chance to return to service EVER. Yes the offenders are allowed to return to life, but not to their profession.
Amir's return is a confession that we have no system to replace him and are too poor without his quality of bowling. That's that.
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Dec 28, 2015 07:54pm
Although I agree, Amir has paid his due, IKs analogy is erroneous. One wrong doesn't make another wrong right. In an ideal and just society, they would all be in jail a little longer. Thats like saying "an eye for an eye"and Ghandi responded " An eye for an eye will soon make he whole world blind". Do we really want criminals running the affairs of PK in every aspect?
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Dec 28, 2015 07:57pm
It should have been better for Imran to be quite... Had a person like Aamir been in any other playing cricketing nation (England, Australia ...etc), he would have not seen his return. A felon convicted at legal age of 18 years and imprisoned for his action against his own country and World Cricket, does not warrant a mercy. Two wrongs don't make it Right Mr. Khan...
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Dec 28, 2015 08:00pm
let give Aamir a chance
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Dec 28, 2015 08:05pm
Totally agree with the Amir's return to international cricket.
But can you please confirm, are you referring to criminals running the KPK government?
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Dec 28, 2015 08:05pm
What is the alternative - you want to punish him for rest of his life!!!
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Dec 28, 2015 08:07pm
Well said Imran but Amir was also a juvenile!
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Dec 28, 2015 08:07pm
He has served his sentence and should be forgiven now... Everyone make mistakes.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:11pm
Does it mean no anti-Sharief protests by IK if Amir is drafted in the team? NS will make that happen immediately.
I think he should not mix matters.. Amir playing is one matter.. Political corruption is another matter. And Amir has been convicted. Atleast there is no corruption case against NS
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Dec 28, 2015 08:13pm
indeed he is the hottest property. thanks imran for your support.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:15pm
@Atif : I agree with you more than I agree with Imran Khan. Two wrongs don't make a right. ICC should change their rules and make the match fixing punishment life time ban from cricket. No exception.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:21pm
How many politicians have apologized for their misdeeds? Aamir has. Azhar Ali and Hafeez should stay home.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:23pm
@Atif
A very lucid commendable comment and while there are people like you there is hope......
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Dec 28, 2015 08:24pm
For once Imran Khan has said something sensible.
Now all those who can not tolerate criminals, should leave this country as Imran Khan has said very rightly that we are ruled by criminals.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:24pm
Amir cannot play, because if you allow him, you would be strengthing the corrupt system.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:24pm
Against politician people have there personal opinion. Up to now not a single evidence and proof ,any one bring in front of court or general public against politician . Politician mistake cannot be compare these cricketer solid proof of crime.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:28pm
Only leader who speaks public language
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Dec 28, 2015 08:28pm
Mighty Khan's words are enough to seal Amir's return. It is time for Raja to keep quiet. We all know Raja has only one qualification to be around the cricketing world and that is English otherwise he would have been unknown to a common man by now. Raja must stick to his own job and stop being an icon of honesty. No body wants his opinion on this subject. Same to Sikander Bakth. I have heard both these guys and they have no logic or reasoning in their opposition to Amir.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:28pm
let the people complain now. Amir has completed his sentence, let him play and do good for Pakistan. He will shine.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:32pm
simply love his statement. so true
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Dec 28, 2015 08:32pm
At 19 all of us do weird things... Give him a chance...
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Dec 28, 2015 08:35pm
For the very first time I agree with Imran Khan.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:35pm
Precisely determined by IK comparing politician of this country which freight with guild, corruption and criminal act despite that ruling the glow of this country. Hardly anyone left with opposition of MA.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:39pm
Yes u r right though. All are corrupt including u and pti and ur supporting parties
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Dec 28, 2015 08:39pm
I am not a PTI suporter, but Imran Khan has a point.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:44pm
Couple of comments tried to differentiate between moral and legal basis. How sad it is that moral and legal basis diverge in those opinions. In reality that is the problem here that the truth hurts those who want not only to see but to keep morality subservient to morally corrupted legality-cum-governance. As for the Amir case, irrepairable damage is already done. PCB had original responsibility to wet the CAPTAIN under whose watch a 17 year old boy with superstar potential got tainted. It is a bigger societal problem that needs an overhaul.
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Dec 28, 2015 08:53pm
If he is selected on merit. He playing shall be compliant to Law and Religion. It's only tribal mentality, which do not forgive those who confess.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:00pm
This lad Amer has suffered as a teenager at the hands of his senior colleagues. He was made to pay the ultimate price of not playing for Pakistan and he has spent the unjustified ban. Now leave him alone and let him play for his country. I also 100% agree with Imran Khan.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:01pm
IK is absolutely right. Hafiz has been an obstructionist for a long time and has damaged the team. It's about time to kick him out for good. We don't need egoistic who thinks he can manipulate others.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:01pm
Yes to Amir.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:02pm
it is sad to see IK talking politics on this issue and comparing this poor guy with corrupt politicians. He is forgetting that a lot of those corrupt people now represent his party. Ever since his Dharna attempt failed he has become a psychopath, he starts dragging his political opponents in almost everything that he talks about regardless if it is related or not.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:06pm
I would love to see Amir clean bowleds Kohli few times.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:07pm
once a thief, always a thief
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Dec 28, 2015 09:12pm
I agree with IK 100%. Cricketers opposing Aamir may be worried about their career once Aamir is back. Aamir should be monitored but should not be apposed to come back.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:15pm
IK is absolutely right. Amir should be allowed to play for the test team. He made a mistake and has paid for it. While the real looters of our wealth and property have been and are free to continue to do as they please.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:16pm
LET AMIR PLAY AND MOVE FORWARD.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:17pm
Well done captaan. 100% agree with you.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:17pm
Enough of unprofessional fights, team should focus on performance, and for players, they should let their performances speak for themselves rather than controversies. If they hate amir so much, they should uproot the entire corruption mafia rather than individual players.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:23pm
People like Hafeez and Azher need to stop reacting emotionally and open their eyes. Have they done, or even said anything about the real problem of day to day corruption around them?
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Dec 28, 2015 09:24pm
yes ik u r right i agree now he should b given a chance and play cricket
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Dec 28, 2015 09:25pm
@wellwisher He have faced the penalty, been into the jail. Now law says he is clear, he deserves a chance.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:28pm
As always IK's comment against his political opponents. Implying his comments all criminals should be allowed to engage in any activities they wish. This illogical comments would never increase IK's stature rather down him.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:30pm
No one can stop Mohammed Aamir from donning Pakistan cricket cap again. He is an asset of Pakistan cricket.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:31pm
@Atif ...there are different types of punishments suggested by the governing body of international cricket (ICC) for different types of offences. Some offenders need cut in match fee, some one or two matches ban and ban can be of longer period depending on the nature of offence. If players banned for few matches can return to play after serving few matches ban then why a player serving punishment for longer period cannot return after serving the punishment. So many players returned to play after serving the ban including Shane Warne. No one objected to his return to the team. Which morality you are talking, Maradona is still being worshipped in Argentine even after scoring goal with hand push which gave world cup to his country.
Hafeez or Azhar don't have problem if only Amir is included in the team. They are afraid that once Amir is taken then doors will be opened for Salman and Asif which effect career of poor performers.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:32pm
Great! IK has some logic! It is twisted.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:36pm
Very well said Mr Khan
We support you
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Dec 28, 2015 09:37pm
@سے Shaam (Hanafi) other countries players have had there share of bans or no action has taken place due to there strong ICC backing. These players were allowed to come back to play international cricket for there country. This has happened in other international sports. Are you not aware of any? Do you want me to name them?
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Dec 28, 2015 09:39pm
@سے Shaam (Hanafi) you are wrong in assuming that England and Australia would ban such a talented player for life. Researh, there are a few examples in those countries.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:41pm
This is what I have been saying from day one ...... Hafeez and Azhar should have thought twice before they opened their big mouth.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:43pm
What a weird justification! One wrong is no justification for another wrong. Amir should be allowed to play for Pakistan because he has served his punishment and there is no justification for further keeping him away from international cricket. However his inclusion in the team on the basis that criminals are in power in KPK is not justified.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:47pm
Man Imran Khan is now showing maturity...He is 100 % right...Hand over PCB to Imran Khan he will fix it in 24 hours...and Cricket Pakistan will become our pride..keep it up like this IK 2018 will be your year...
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Dec 28, 2015 09:48pm
Imran is right if Pakistan has any chance to win world cup they need Aamir.People like hafeea and Azhar are medicore cricketers who are afraid of his talent and opposing him. Shame on them.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:48pm
I was smiling after seeing the poll results and reading comments.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:52pm
Criminals may be running the country (by the way, that is not a fact, it is only his opinion), but is he supporting those criminals running the country? If not, why support playing criminals? His own words contradict his own principals. Imran needs to think for a moment before he opens his mouth.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:54pm
Mr. Imran,
we love you, i would like to live in your province, i feel very safe under your leadership. from florida usa.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:54pm
This is strange rationale. In most Western countries convicted politicians cannot stand for office. It is our misfortune that hardly anyone in office in Pakistan is actually convicted despite the evidence. If the 3cricketers had committed their crimes in Pakistan I bet nothing would have happened to them. It was their overconfidence that they took a risk with the British judicial system. Now we have another saga with Yaseer Shah to deal with. When and how will Pakistan cricket learn from past experiences. There should be lifelong bans for substance misuse.
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Dec 28, 2015 09:56pm
Politics has always been a dirty game, it tends to corrupt people in power, and it will always remain so.
Cricket is a gentlemen's game, let us try to keep it that way!
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Dec 28, 2015 10:01pm
It takes one to know one. Did not Imran admit to using bottle caps illegally to gouge cricket ball to make it swing?
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Dec 28, 2015 10:03pm
But the question is Amir has to play abroad as no team is visiting Pakistan and he may not be given any visa by any other country barring Dubai. So where is he going to play?
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Dec 28, 2015 10:03pm
For me this guy is one of the 5 best players in the history of cricket. so il call him imran sahab....equivalent of sir imran khan. I just have one thing to say to imran sahab :
Two wrong don't make a right
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Dec 28, 2015 10:03pm
I can never believe IK has been living in UK, studied in Oxford and fostered his maturity there. How a political leader can criminals to play with nation's destiny as other alleged criminals have been doing it. In civilized nations no one could support this argument. This is one of the pathetic statements IK has given.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:05pm
Imran sahab, a person representing one's country should not be given another chance to do that. This isn't school test
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Dec 28, 2015 10:06pm
Expected nothing more nothing less from IK. He never ceases to amaze.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:07pm
A leader like Imran Khan comes with a stupid logic like this . I cant believe. If everyone is killing , let me kill also . Wow what a great leader !
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Dec 28, 2015 10:18pm
@Merchant Everyone knows that Amir was involved in spot fixing and ICC punished him by imposing a 3 year ban from playing cricket. How can you say that the ban was unjustified. However I fully agree with those
who supports his inclusion in the Pakistan team because he has already served the punishment and apologised to the people.
Let us go ahead by keeping in mind the philosophy of forgiveness.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:18pm
As a politician, the great Imran Khan has given a good statement. However, as a green-shirt skipper only, his statement might have been the same as given by Rashid Latif, the ex wicket-keeper of the Pakistani cricket team.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:20pm
Agree with what Imran Khan says about Amir.
Would encourage him to give the odd statement/interview without including in it a section on abuse.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:20pm
Very pragmatic approach. Agree Amir should be allowed to represent the country again. If he had not completed his punishment then I would have said no he should not be allowed back.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:23pm
He has served his time, so get over it. Let him play.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:23pm
2 wrongs Which ars not even similar doesnt make it right. Logic should be simple. He has served his ban so should get fair chance. But such arguments doesnt make it right.
However, his return is too early. He should not play ahead of other probables who have worked hard with honesty in these years. His past record shouldnt matter. He should be last in the list of probable bowlers and then move up on basis of his domestic performances. He has bowled good but does playing 5-6 domestic games will earn a new guy a call to national team? Answer is no. Have to spend few seasons at domestic.
Also it has lot of issues within team. Best thing is to sit and talk ans talk again. Otherwise rushing him in will end up as grouping in team.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:24pm
Two wrongs doesn't make one right
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Dec 28, 2015 10:31pm
@Agha Ata --well corruption is everywhere in Pakistan------the difference is Amir has been punished ,he is young and talented should give a chance towards betterment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 28, 2015 10:32pm
Totally illogical, He is trying to get rid of criminals who are running the country and he is also justifying the inclusion of a criminal in the team.
Imran should know that two wrong don't make a right. Imran's stand on Amir exploits his support for corrupt people who are also part of PTI.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:35pm
the true fact Imran has pointed is 100% correct - actually there is no room for non criminals in Pakistan - its history specks for its self
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Dec 28, 2015 10:38pm
I could not understand why people are opposing Amir's return. He has the courage to say that he made a mistake and then faced the penalty for it...someone was saying that if you are a doctor and committed a mistake you cannot practise again, I am a Doctor working in UK and if any doctor commits a mistake and apologize for it then GMC has in many cases pardoned the doctors depending upon the severity so for God's sake leave him alone. If he repeats the same thing then there should be no mercy.... he will bring glory to Pakistan and can be an ambassador so other players don't come near bookies.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:40pm
@Atif I agree with your argument to certain extent.Here is the way I look at it.
18 year old makes a mistake and considering the nature of his offense he was suspended for 5 years.So room was left for him to return as he was NOT banned for life. We leave the selection of players to PCB,so let them decide.
As far as moral and legal arguments are concerned, this is a game of cricket for heaven's sake. We play it on moral grounds as kids when no money is involved. That's where the legal aspect comes in.He has been cleared on legal basis. As far as morality is concerned,its between him and his Creator. We humans are in no position to pass a judgment here.Yes if he is implicated again then its bye bye for good.
Being a physician I can tell you that, short of intentional homicide, one can practice again after malpractice lawsuits. Provided you pay the penalties and get some remedial training. Not a military person but I think court martial is equivalent to life sentence.
Peace.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:40pm
Very childish statement like a kid saying 'he hit me back I will hit his back too'. A mature politician can never make such ridiculous statement.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:41pm
Amir will be playing for Pakistan, if anybody's got a problem they can retire from international cricket.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:49pm
What IK said was just out of sheer frustration. The kid did his time and admitted his wrong doing,so let him play. IK is just flabbergasted that we hold this kid to such a high standard and turn a blind eye to much more important things in Pakistan. What a pity!
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Dec 28, 2015 10:56pm
And Imran Khan roar again. The only leader who have a voice and value based on true heart and judgement.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:58pm
Criminals rule and Aamir's return to International cricket are separate issues. Aamir was given punishment and now he can and should play cricket. Hope he will prove himself as a great bowler in future Inshalah.
Criminals rule the country because they have mandate of ruling. People of Pakistan should think about criminals and non criminals while casting their vote in next general election.
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Dec 28, 2015 11:04pm
Please don't make Amer,s issue a political rivery. Most of us support him but IK your input to include him with your reasoning is not right. You have Jahangir Tareen with you. I have a Phd in MBA in USA but i donot have that much wealth like him in Pakistan with this degree and all same calliper people will feel me. How he got so rich ?? I will leave it this for you to decide it. If you are a true honest leader then investigate it and he has done corruption and you kick him out from your party them i will you the man of your words not master of U turns . Then i will tell you who is next ?
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Dec 28, 2015 11:05pm
Once A Cheater, Always A Cheater!!!
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Dec 28, 2015 11:47pm
@wellwisher
"once a thief, always a thief"
In that case we should have only life imprisonment or capital punishment for all crimes. How could you be so sure that a person will not become a good citizen after surving his sentence and punishment?
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Dec 28, 2015 11:59pm
Spot on, Imran Khan!
Its the right thing to do. Amir got his punishment and now is the time to take him along and try to win more games or play good competitive cricket.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:09am
Much though I like and admire Imran, he is dead wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right. A morally bankrupt cricketer should not represent the country.
There are moral issues that should attract a life ban. That should, of course, apply to everyone including politicians. Ban Amir for life!
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Dec 29, 2015 12:13am
Mr Imran Khan, on the basis of your logic we might as well not support you as you are in favour of criminals representing Pakistan.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:21am
Like the former captain IK stated that when criminals can run our country, be leaders, and mess up with people, then why can't this kid who has served his time, cannot play for his country PAKISTAN. Mohammad Amir deserves a chance, if he is not up to the quality, and does not perform well, then take him off later on, but for God's sake give him a chance. All those senior players, should encourage, and give Mohammad Amir good advice, rather than bickering, and making a big deal. Let the game begin...
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Dec 29, 2015 12:33am
Agree with ik. Although his analogy may not be on spot. The boy has paid his dues, our nation is so oblivious to justice system. A man is innocent until proven guilty and a man after serving his sentence should be a free soul.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:39am
very valued point
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Dec 29, 2015 12:48am
I totally and completely agree with the legend.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:53am
He is right. Imran himself confessed to ball tempering early on in his career but thankfully that remained a few times affair and he went on to play 88 tests. Amir deserves another chance too..
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Dec 29, 2015 12:53am
Yes for Aamir's return to PK.
respect for Imran to take a firm position.
pakistan Zindabad!
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Dec 29, 2015 01:04am
The analogy may be wrong...but Amir has completed his sentence.....when the Most Merciful, is generous in forgiving us....so should we.
If nothing else show let us some compassion for Amir.
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Dec 29, 2015 01:06am
IK are you going to do a dharna on this ?
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Dec 29, 2015 01:17am
Imran Khan could have easily presented his point of view in somewhat better way. Fair process calls from wrong doings and punishment. When the punishment is carried out then under the fair process the person should be allowed to pursue their normal routines in life. For recidivist the rules could be predefined and should not be retroactive. As far as Amir's case is concerned he has paid his dues and followed all the guidelines so the question of any bias and prejudiced meted out should be dealt according to prevailing rules defined in the process documents e.g. in the PCB or country's constitution.
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Dec 29, 2015 01:17am
I do not think cricketers opposing the return of real talent are opposing without being backed by someone who is on someone else's payroll. This needs to be investigated as well.
I think Amir paid the price for his mistakes and going forward no one will dare doing something like this ever.
Those opposing Amir's return can easily be replaced. However, it will be very difficult to replace Amir.
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Dec 29, 2015 01:25am
IK points that 'Criminals are running the country' but I see lot of nonsense comments getting emotional or logical all over lol !
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Dec 29, 2015 02:06am
Why don't you name those criminals who are running the country, meanwhile remember that you were rejected by the people of Pakistan in the last elections.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:08am
@Atif Doctors can not return if they kill a person by giving them the wrong treatment. They kill the person Amir did not kill the person so your logic does not make sense... all these criminals when they are in jail ... the goal of jail authority is once these criminals complete their punishment they will go back to their normal life, it is also depend on the crime... Amir did not make that crime that he wont be able to come back to Cricket... look at your country how many criminals ruling the country?
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Dec 29, 2015 02:22am
“Criminals are running the country, so it is irrational that someone who has completed his sentence is opposed on his return,” he said.
Now, you are talking the talk Mr. Khan.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:25am
@Yankee Cricket Fan very good point.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:49am
Imran wants to run this country like he runs his party. Corrupt and goons running the party with failed and flawed policies ! The only way to win the elections is through fraud or agencies ! Only a corrupt can support a corrupt !
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Dec 29, 2015 02:51am
Stupid logic. Will he give the same position to his minster who is currently apprehended by NAB? Em sure a big no but when the reputation of country is at stake he gives childish logic.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:11am
If criminals can run country than cricketers can do corruption. Is that you mean mr Ik???
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Dec 29, 2015 03:27am
Very rational stance! This is what is needed.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:29am
For sure , Amir should be playing as he is free of changes now ,Tnks Ik●
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Dec 29, 2015 03:35am
Here is how I interperate Aamir case and this pole. I think this case is setting precedent for how we will treat others in similar situation in the future for cricket and other similar fields at international level. By accepting Aamir back into national team we r saying any one who accepts bribe may get second chance to represent the best of the best from our nation in the world. I am surprised that this is the stance of a well known Pakistani leader who is supposedly most clean. I hope the results of this poll does not represent Pakistan in general. I agree that this nation has accepted most corrupt leaders but that does not mean we continue our mistakes at all levels and not learn from them.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:57am
Well said Imran you are a leader
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Dec 29, 2015 04:03am
@Atif this it is no medical it's not army and no one will die I know you trying to be American go check Micheal Vick he was jailed for two years now he is playing again you don't kill the convicts you fix them
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Dec 29, 2015 04:24am
Emotional people agreeing to the irrational logic of IK. What is he saying, that since we have a precedent of the corrupt coming back again and again, therefore we should allow the same again. And is that why he is also allowing all the corrupts of the PPP in his party?? If this is his logic, then Imran should stop the mantra of change. He should just start saying that we are a corrupt people and like the corrupt to be in charge in all our affairs, politics or sports. People can forget about change and transparency. Corruption rules, and the corrupt are always the winners. WAY TO GO IMRAN.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:25am
@Atif Amir return to cricket proves following:
1. We are sensable nation as we have punished the culprits as per judicial system.
2. After a person has completed his term (punishment), we gave him second chance, so that he became useful part of society.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:31am
@Atif
By your moral standards, and rightly so, he is not entitled to even a decent job, for his entire life and thus probably, a decent living either.
While two wrongs don't make one right. IK is right when he says some of the corrupt and criminal politicians are ruling this country, without ever being even held accountable, and here is a young man who has already paid his dues.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:33am
Talks nonsense as always.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:34am
Exactly. Hafeez should have a stronger stance "Don't want to represent corrupt leaders of my country...take me out of this game. I will only play when Pakistan will have honest leadership" This will keep him out of the game for good.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:53am
Agreed that Amir should play but IK's argument is illogical because two wrongs will never make a right.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:57am
I usually don't agree with IK but on this one, I support his comments 100%. A young boy accepted his mistake and completed the punishment. Therefore, he should be given another opportunity. It is very fair and transparent.
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Dec 29, 2015 05:03am
That is what change IK was proposing to Pakistan? total illogical interview...Every like or dislike of IK is not mean that people should accept.... wrong is wrong..by saying of any one wrong can not become right.....A lesson for future to all. A convict is convict....he was not accepted his wrong doings but he was given the evidences and then convicted...he had lawyer but was not in Pakistan that is why they were convicted.... secondly his apology is for money what he can earn from International cricket....
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Dec 29, 2015 05:11am
If you completed your terms and done your time, the society must give chance to restart, but problem in our society is we like to beat the bushes.. come on grow up and be supporter. I agree with IK. we should help him to change for good..
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Dec 29, 2015 05:13am
@Atif
What?
How many examples should I give you of doctors' malpractices,no body is caught.
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Dec 29, 2015 05:25am
Because then one could say, "If Amir can play cricket, why can't criminals run the country?"
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Dec 29, 2015 05:47am
@سے Shaam (Hanafi)
Brother you are not right. Shane warne and Mark Waugh played for years after they were found guilty of spot fixing. Marlon Samuel of westindies is back again and there are few more
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Dec 29, 2015 05:47am
@سے Shaam (Hanafi)
In Australia and England Amir must have played without any trouble.You are wrong.
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Dec 29, 2015 06:08am
makes a lot of sense. Amir's crime, in the context of what goes on in the corridors of power, is trivial. unlike others, he has paid for his crime. And to top it off, he was only 18 when he made the stupid mistake. Any court of law would have given him a misdemeanor, except England, where anti-Pakistan feelings dominate.
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Dec 29, 2015 06:12am
Two wrongs don't make a right
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Dec 29, 2015 07:03am
Is that the reason why Khan wants to run the country.
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Dec 29, 2015 07:58am
Those who have poor performances like Hafeez and Azhar should noy hide behind Amir
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Dec 29, 2015 10:08am
@Rohit Imran is more intellectual than most 'intellectuals's in Pakistan. What part of his logic doesnt make sense?
Once you pay for a crime and pay your dues, you are entitled to a second chance.
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Dec 29, 2015 10:10am
Fully agreed with IK
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Dec 29, 2015 10:10am
@Atif Doctors cannot return to medicine for life after malpractice conviction. True. But Amir was not banned for life. If he was, he wouldnt have returned. If you wish to contest the judgment against him, thats another matter. However, as a matter of principle, he is allowed to return. And yes, he is a better bowler/prospect than any other pacer in Pakistan right now.
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Dec 29, 2015 10:35am
Agreed. We hope you had elected Honest men in Karachi.
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Dec 29, 2015 11:46am
it sounds good kuptaan..
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Dec 29, 2015 12:19pm
This is a great peace of advice from a great cricketer. I think we should have some kind heart towards a young man to give him a second chance in life. Even GOD forgives the first sin and gives you another opportunity to grasp. Hence, we must limit ourselves and allow this young man to learn from his mistakes. Now it is all up to Amir to make it or break it.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:26pm
Amir is an asset of the country, he in fact did not malign the name of country it was Salman who persuaded him.
In addition to he confessed his guilt and apologized the whole nation then there is no point left to forgive him. To err is human, he committed mistake realized and apologized. if any one opposes him will show grudge towards him. this is more harmful for the country than the crime committed by Amir.
it high time to support him let him prove to be an asset of the country.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:39pm
@Azhar Malik Its not a justification here, there is no need for it, where a 23 year old served has served his punishment, while on the other hand politicians are looting the country
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Dec 29, 2015 02:43pm
@Qamer Well he has named the criminals many times and if you still don't know then you must have spent some time in MARS, if people of Pakistan had the sense to elect the right person then Pakistan would have been a different country today.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:08pm
Give him 100 Chances to Play and Live his life as he wishes to BUT Not in the national colors again after what he did willingly , knowingly in collaboration with his mates For the Love of Extra thousands pounds . So yes Give him a chance , if he wants to play domestic cricket Fine , if he wants to play Club cricket internationally , Fine let him do and let those organizations who wants him to be part of their teams , Fine let them do it on their own watch BUT Not in the Pakistani National colors . So he is a human being who knows only one thing to earn his bread and butter ( he did not study long and hard too either so that chapter is already closed on him ) FINE let him earn and live as he wants BUT he must not be allowed to earn his lively hood through National colors/national ex chequer in any way or form . He had the best of the world to come to him But he Knowingly Screwed up his chances So no More chances in national colors is the bottom line
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Dec 29, 2015 03:53pm
Dear Imran
Is it not time that stopped? On the one hand you want "Tabdeeli" and on the other hand you are advocating status quo. Please explain yourself!
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Dec 29, 2015 04:32pm
Mr Khan ,Kindly do not mix your political agenda with the issue.
Question is simple " Can a person with lot f talent but convicted of treason ,bringing disrepute to the organization (where the person was employed) ad embarrassments to the nation, qualify to represent same organization and nation at any level or field.
Bringing faith or personal political views is a symbol of loosing the debate
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Dec 29, 2015 04:43pm
Its neither good logic nor well done.....Only IK has charisma to say such things.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:58pm
Legendary statement....really you are the pioneer of Pakistan cricket
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Dec 29, 2015 09:53pm
Lately haven't been agreeing much with Imran, so logical, well thought out, comments are a pleasant surprise, and encouraging. Wish he would do the same in politics. He'd be invincible.
Instead of letting the henchmen loose on Amir, let's use them to bring the habitual career criminals hidihng out of the country.
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Dec 30, 2015 02:36am
@Malik . If you have an MBA, that doesn't qualify you for having more wealth. Businessman make money, not salaried employees.
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Dec 30, 2015 02:57am
IK you are spot on. Amir should be included in the team on his current form and fitness. And for those who oppose Amir's return to the cricket team, my question is.. only oppose if you people have never committed any kind of mistake in your life or in other words if you people have never Lied, never cheated in exams, etc?? Plz dont act like angels. Even saints have erred sometimes in the life.
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Dec 30, 2015 03:15am
Only difference is that Amir is not a criminal, some tinted no balls, should have been given a warning. His involvement is just a fraction of what been done by KIWIS and others, they call it a part of business. IPL is a scam involved with gambling and spot fixing. Money talks and poor walk. Agree with Imran.
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Dec 30, 2015 07:34am
So true. After accepting the mistake and paying the price, one deserves a second chance, isn't it as straightforward as that?
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Dec 30, 2015 10:09am
we should focus on bringing new people, rather than bringing back those who had their chance and lost it because of greed. And stop looking for players from single family like akmal family. there is alot of talent out there. give them chance too.
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Dec 30, 2015 11:11am
@atif Amir was cleared by the international body and was permitted to play cricket for his country.The reason our beloved country is in a mess because individuals like yourself keep voting for the corrupt leaders .Imran Khan is spot on with his statement.
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Dec 30, 2015 11:25am
@Rohit SEN Your knowledge of nawaz sharif is very limited.Most of the comments by our Indian neighbours are very knowledgable and up to the point.By the way I have a good friend in London by the name of rohit Lathia from Ahmadabad .
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Dec 30, 2015 03:01pm
Actually, personality clash is a big problem in all walks of our society, may it be sports, business or politics. When we see, others have more talent, enough to push u out, to make u history, u plan nd even invent negative moves to keep him out of the show, which is just a trageical state of affair and indeed against sportsman's spirit. Let's move on to build all institutions of the country like one team. United, we succeed,...scattered we fall. Zarra sochiye!!!!
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Dec 30, 2015 04:45pm
nice answer imran khan
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Dec 30, 2015 05:30pm
"Imran Khan: If criminals can run the country why can’t Amir play cricket? "
So running the country is like playing cricket? I don't think so. You should quit gracefully.
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Dec 31, 2015 05:12am
so Zardari can also be a President again. True Tabdelli.
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