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Also Pakistan – II

Published May 24, 2012 05:40am

Following is a sequel to the illustrated feature Also Pakistan.

There is very little memory left of a Pakistan that today almost seems like an alien planet compared to what it has been ever since the mid-1980s.

Here, I share with you some interesting photographs that I have managed to gather in the last couple of years of that alien country. A place that was also called Pakistan.

This sequel comprises images of vintage artifacts and photographs that couldn’t make it to the first part.

ZA Bhutto at Quaid-e-Azam's mausoleum in 1969.

Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) chairman Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, addresses a rally at Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s mausoleum in Karachi in 1969. (Photo courtesy of eBay.)

The rally was held immediately after a protest movement led by leftist students; labour and journalist unions; political parties, including PPP and the National Awami Party (NAP), had forced Pakistan’s first military dictator Ayub Khan, to resign.

Construction of the mausoleum began in the early 1960s and was still underway when the rally was held. Wooden ladders and planks being used for construction purposes were acrobatically utilised by the crowd to gain vantage viewing points on the day of the rally.

Army troops patrol streets near PIDC, Karachi.
Army troops patrol the streets opposite Club Road and near PIDC building in Karachi, during the anti-Ayub Khan protest movement in 1969.

The picture was taken by a foreign tourist from his room at the Hotel Intercontinental (now, Pearl Continental), which is situated diagonally opposite the PIDC building.

Legendary Jazz singer Dizzy Gillespie performs at a park in Karachi.

Legendary jazz saxophonist and trumpeter Dizzy Gillespie, visited Pakistan during his whirlwind tour of Asia and the Middle East in the early 1950s. Here, he is seen playing his sax with a Sindhi snake charmer at a public park in Karachi in 1954.

Ava Gardner and Stewart Granger at Lahore Airport.
Famous Hollywood stars Ava Gardner and Stewart Granger arrive at Lahore Airport, 1954. The actors arrived in Lahore with a full filming crew to shoot a major portion of the film ‘Bhowani Junction.’

Ava Gardner shoots a scene at Lahore's Railway Station.

Ava Gardner shooting a scene at the Lahore Railway Station in 1954.

Pakistani fans and artistes gather around the main cast of Bhowani Junction on the film’s set in Lahore.

Pakistani fans and artistes gather around the main cast of Bhowani Junction on the film’s sets in Lahore.

American tourists enjoy a camel ride at Karachi’s Clifton beach in 1960.  (Video grab from a 1960 tourism promotional film made by Pan Am)
American tourists enjoy a camel ride at Karachi’s Clifton beach in 1960.  [Video grab from a 1960 tourism promotional film made by Pan Am]

A series of apartment blocks, bungalows, fast-food joints and restaurants have sprung up in the area today – but no tourists, especially not the bikini-wearing kind.

A 1964 PIA press ad featuring famous Hollywood comedian and actor Bob Hope.
A 1964 PIA press ad featuring famous Hollywood comedian and actor Bob Hope.

PIA was one of the first airlines in the world to introduce in-flight entertainment. It regularly featured in all the prestigious top-10-airline lists for over 20 years, before dropping out in the mid-1980s.

This is a 1967 press ad published in LIFE magazine for the American insurance company, Continental Insurance.

This is a 1967 press ad published in LIFE magazine for the American insurance company, Continental Insurance.

The number of American and British tourists visiting Pakistan began to grow from the early 1960s. The trend hit a peak in the late 1970s before starting to dwindle and peter out in the mid-1980s.

It (in a tongue-in-cheek manner) addresses those traveling to Karachi and getting injured during a ‘camel crash.’

American Embassy building under construction in Karachi, 1957.

American Embassy building under construction in Karachi, 1957. (Photo courtesy of eBay.)

Completed in the late 1950s, the building became an iconic structure on Karachi’s Abdullah Haroon Road.

Apart from having a busy visa section, it also housed a state-of-the-art projection hall and a widespread library, which was used by generations of Karachi’s school and college students before it was closed down in the late 1990s.

Easy to access across the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s – the building was gradually barricaded and heavily fortified after the tragic September 11 episode in 2001. The visa section was moved to Islamabad, before returning to Karachi in 2012 (in a different building and compound).

This building faced at least four terrorist attacks between 2002 and 2006 and survived them all.

Though the US consulate has now moved to a different location in Karachi, the building still stands.

Part of the cast and crew of PTV’s 1970 play, ‘Shazori,’ at a reception given in their honour by Canada Dry beverages company.

Part of the cast and crew of Pakistan Television (PTV)’s 1970 play, ‘Shazori,’ at a reception given in their honour by Canada Dry beverages company.

Shakeel (third from left) became a heartthrob and sex symbol, being cast in a number of famous PTV plays as a hero throughout the 1970s. He also tried his luck in films but failed to gain the kind of popularity he enjoyed on television.

Today, in his sixties, he still appears on the mini-screen as a character actor.

Newspaper ad (taken from DAWN’s 7 February, 1972 edition) announcing the arrival of a Lebanese belly dancer in Karachi.

Newspaper ad (taken from DAWN’s 7 February, 1972 edition) announcing the arrival of a Lebanese belly dancer in Karachi.

Between the early 1960s and late 1970s, Karachi was dotted by a number of nightclubs that competed for clients by offering the best in-house pop bands, bars and professional belly dancers invited from cities like Beirut, Cairo, Tehran and Istanbul.

Nightclubs were ordered shut in 1977.

A vibrant 1973 poster prepared and printed by the Pakistan Ministry of Tourism to attract tourism to the city of Lahore.

A vibrant 1973 poster prepared and printed by the Pakistan Ministry of Tourism to attract tourism to the city of Lahore.

A copy of famous spy novelist, Edward S. Arron’s 1962 book, ‘Assignment Karachi.’

A copy of famous spy novelist, Edward S. Arron’s 1962 book ‘Assignment Karachi.’

The book was one of the many he wrote that involved the adventures of CIA agent Sam Durell in various cities across the world.

This novel, which narrated the tale of Durell working with Pakistani authorities to capture Soviet-backed henchmen, became an instant best-seller in Pakistan.

However, in a quirky twist, some copies of this novel were set on fire by pro-Soviet leftist students during a demonstration (at the Karachi University) against Ayub Khan’s education policy in 1962.

A 1967 tourism poster for Karachi (printed by American airline Pan Am and used in Europe and the US).

A 1967 tourism poster for Karachi (printed by American airline Pan Am and used in Europe and the US).

A special stamp released by government of Pakistan in 1973, to plead the return of the 90,000 Pakistani prisoners of war captured by the Indian forces during the 1971 war.

A special stamp released by government of Pakistan in 1973, to plead the return of the 90,000 Pakistani prisoners of war captured by the Indian forces during the 1971 war.

Pakistan lost its eastern wing (East Pakistan) in the war. The break gave birth to Bangladesh.

A 1970 copy of a paperback version of the conspiratorial (and fictitious) book, ‘Protocols of Zion,’ printed in Pakistan in 1969.

A 1970 copy of a paperback version of the conspiratorial (and fictitious) book, ‘Protocols of Zion,’ printed in Pakistan in 1969.

The Protocols, a book describing a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world, first appeared in Russia in 1903. It was written by an obscure Russian anti-Semite author (most probably as a novel), but was given a whole new angle and widespread publicity by anti-Semite American industrial tycoons like Henry Ford and then by the Nazi regime in Germany.

Though constantly debunked as a hoax and a farce, the book soon became popular among Arabs incensed by the creation of Israel in 1948.

The book was little known in Pakistan until the Saudi Arabian regime used Pakistani publishers to print it for the Saudi monarchy in 1969.

Millions of copies of the above-seen book were published between 1969 and 1976 in Pakistan. Most of them were shipped off to Arab countries. In fact late King Faisal of Saudi Arabia used to hand a copy to visitors. He was assassinated by his nephew in 1975.

Many copies also found their way back on the shelves in Pakistan’s book stores. Initially, they became popular with anti-US leftist students, but by the mid-1980s, the book had almost entirely been adopted by the religious right.

It is interesting to note that almost no copies were published in Pakistan after the assassination of King Faisal in 1975, but newer editions with additions made by certain ulema, religious parties and Islamists in Pakistan, have been appearing ever since the 1980s.

The book has also been influential on popular conspiracy theorists in present-day Pakistan.

Two hippie tourists at a tea shop in Sibi, Balochistan, in 1972.

Two hippie tourists at a tea shop in Sibi, Balochistan, in 1972. .

Today, traveling to a Baloch town like the one in the picture has become a no-go area even for Pakistanis! (Photo courtesy Rory McLane).

A section of a bar in Karachi seen in 1974.

A section of a bar in Karachi seen in 1974.

Before the sale of alcohol beverages was banned (to Muslims) in Pakistan in April, 1977, Karachi had the largest number of bars in the country.

This particular bar (called "Karachi On") was situated at Elphinstone Street, in the Saddar area of Karachi. The area was home to a number of nightclubs.

The picture belongs to Ali Huda Shah, whose maternal uncle was the owner of the bar. It was shut down in April 1977.

Today, though there are no public bars in Pakistan, however, licensed liquor outlets selling local beer, whiskey, gin and rum brands still operate in Karachi and the rest of Sindh.

The makers of these local brands are some of the leading tax-paying companies in the country.

A still from one of the most famous one-off plays on Pakistan television, ‘Quratul Ain’ (1975)*.

A still from one of the most famous one-off plays on Pakistan television, ‘Quratul Ain’ (1975).

It starred Naveen Tajik (right), a Pakistani Christian, who, along with Roohi Bano and Uzma Gillani, was hailed as one of the finest TV actresses in Pakistan (in the 1970s).

Quratul Ain’ (scripted by Asfaq Ahmed) tells the story of a young man who wants to join the air force and is in love with a girl (Qurat).

Passionate about joining the air force, the young man is distraught after he begins to lose his eye sight.

Qurat tells him she doesn’t care and that they should get married. The young man agrees but then vanishes. Not even his family knows about his whereabouts. Qurat waits for him but is finally coaxed by her father to find another man.

Many years later she accompanies her husband to a Sufi shrine from where she wants to buy some bangles.

As the husband goes looking for a bangles shop, Qurat stumbles upon a blind Sufi fakir (vagabond) selling bangles from a sack.

He has long hair and a beard. He asks for one of her hands so he could put the bangles over her wrist. It’s her lost lover. She does not recognise him.

But he recognises her the moment he holds her hand. In shock, he lets go of his sack and her hand and vanishes into the crowd. It is left to the audience to figure out whether a surprised Qurat realises who the man was.

The play was part of PTV’s ‘Aik Muhabbat Soh Afsaney’ series in which Sufi themes were set in modern urban settings.

Naveen, though hugely successful as a TV actress and fashion model, failed to make a mark in films. She left for the US in the early 1980s.

A shelf in a shop displaying Scotch whiskey brands in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s ‘Bara market’ (Smugglers’ Market) in 1977.

A shelf in a shop displaying Scotch whiskey brands in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s ‘Bara market’ (smugglers’ market) in 1977.

The market was popular with both foreign tourists as well as Pakistanis coming from Karachi and Lahore to buy imported and/or smuggled cloth, clothes, shoes, electronic good and foreign whiskey brands.

The Bara area began to come under the influence of Islamist groups from the late 1980s and today the area has no such market and is in the grip of a violent and bloody conflict between armed fundamentalist outfits and the state of Pakistan.

Poster & still from 1975’s Pakistani film, ‘Dulhan Aik Raat Ki’ (A Bride for One Night).

Poster and still from 1975’s Pakistani film, ‘Dulhan Aik Raat Ki’ (A Bride for One Night).

The flick was Pakistan’s first Urdu film advertised as ‘For Adults Only.’ In the mid-1970s, British and American ‘adult films’ had become a hugely successful outing for young middle-class Pakistanis and couples, and by 1974-75, films (especially in Karachi) labelled ‘For Adults Only,’ were doing a roaring business.

Karachi’s Rio Cinema and Palace Cinema became known for running such films (Rio today is a gaudy shopping mall while Palace was converted into a marriage hall).

Such films were mainly low-budget European and American romantic farces in which nudity scenes and sexual content were allowed to be shown by the censors, thus the tag: ‘For Adults Only’.

Inspired by the period’s ‘Adult Film’ phenomenon, Mumtaz Ali Khan directed Pakistan’s first Urdu film that was ‘For Adults Only.’ It was appropriately called ‘Dulhan Aik Raat Ki’.

Staring late Badar Munir (then known as the ‘Charles Bronson of Pakistan) and a number of famous 1970s Punjabi and Pushtun film actresses, it was a raunchy fusion of violent Italian spaghetti westerns and 1970s European soft-porn.

It was disallowed a re-release in the 1980s by the Zia dictatorship and was only made available (on VHS) in the late 1980s. It is still not available on DVD, but can be found on VCD.

A video grab from PTV’s groundbreaking coverage of the 1970 general elections.

A video grab from PTV’s groundbreaking coverage of the 1970 general elections.

Running consecutively for 48 hours, the 1970 election transmission was one of the first long duration live events telecast by PTV.

Seen in the picture is famous PTV anchor of the 1970s, Laeeq Ahmed, pointing at the number of seats (162) won by the Bengali nationalist party in former East Pakistan, the Awami League (AL).

In 1971 AL rebelled against the West Pakistan military establishment (for not giving it the democratic right to lead the new democratic regime as a majority party), and after a bloody civil war, East Pakistan broke away and became the independent Bengali republic of Bangladesh.

Notice how the host is holding a cigarette in his hand while discussing the election results. TV hosts commonly smoked on the air until the practice was discontinued in the early 1980s.

A 1974 press ad of Red & White cigarettes. Just like in other airports of the world at the time, smoking was allowed in all areas of Pakistani airports as well.

A 1974 press ad of Red & White cigarettes. Just like in other airports of the world at the time, smoking was allowed in all areas of Pakistani airports as well. The shoot for this ad took place at the old Karachi Airport that worked as a hub in the region and was one of the busiest airports in Asia receiving up to 60 flights in an hour from around the world.

The man is sitting at a famous waiting lounge/restaurant at the airport (Sky Grill) that also had a full bar and was the only place at the airport that was centrally air-conditioned.

Former Pakistani test team opener, Sadiq Muhammad (left) and  former Pakistan cricket captain, Mushtaq Muhammad, share a beer in Sydney in January, 1977.

Former Pakistani Test batsman Sadiq Muhammad (left) and  former Pakistan cricket captain, Mushtaq Muhammad, share a beer in Sydney in January, 1977.

The picture was taken inside the players’ dressing room at the Sydney Cricket Ground after Pakistan defeated a strong Australian Test side. This was Pakistan’s first Test victory against Australia in Australia. With the victory, Pakistan squared the series 1-1 after being one down in the series. Seen in the background is a shirtless Imran Khan who took 12 wickets in the match.

Pakistan cricket team’s famous pace duo, Imran Khan and Sarfraz Nawaz, at a nightclub in Melbourne in 1981.

Pakistan cricket team’s famous pace duo, Imran Khan and Sarfraz Nawaz, at a nightclub in Melbourne in 1981.

The picture was taken during Pakistan team’s 1981 tour of Australia. Architects of various wins by the Pakistan team in the 1970s and early 1980s,  Imran and Sarfraz who were both best friends but had a major falling out as politicians in the 1990s.

Sarfraz, a long-time Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) supporter, joined the PPP after retirement (in 1988) whereas Khan formed his own party (1996). Nawaz changed allegiances last year, when he switched to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM).

A 1973 photo of Nawaz Sharif.  Sharif came from a business family and according to a biography (published in 2004) he was a music and film enthusiast and a PPP/Bhutto supporter at college (in the late 1960s).

A 1973 photo of Nawaz Sharif.  Sharif came from a business family and according to a biography (published in 2004), he was a music and film enthusiast and a PPP/Bhutto supporter at college (in the late 1960s).

In the 1970s his family had a falling out with the PPP regime it nationalised a large part of the Sharif family’s businesses.

Nawaz joined politics in the 1980s, guided by anti-PPP dictator, Ziaul Haq. Today his party, the PML-N, is the second largest political party in Pakistan after the PPP.

Karachi on the day the reactionary military junta led by Ziaul Haq toppled the Z A. Bhutto regime (July 5, 1977). In the background is a large cinema that closed down in the 1980s.

End of an era: Karachi on the day the reactionary military junta led by Ziaul Haq toppled the Z A Bhutto regime (July 5, 1977). In the background is a large cinema that closed down in the 1980s.

*All images have been provided by the author.


Nadeem F. Paracha is a cultural critic and senior columnist for Dawn Newspaper and Dawn.com


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Virendra Kaul
Jun 03, 2012 03:26pm
Great observation, Dr.
Anis ur Rehman
Jun 07, 2012 09:44am
My Dear Mr Pardip, I would like to bring to bring to notice and to all who read Mr Pardip comments, there is no such restriction in Pakistan. You can can see beautiful and smiling face every where. Women are not pushed behind the walls and are free to their wills
lmkonline
Jun 05, 2012 11:01am
Mr. N. F. Paracha. Could you kindly make further changes to this article. Egan Fernandes did not jump off from Metropole Hotel. It was his house at Dholi Khata (Soldier Bazaar).!!!
Balwanjee
May 28, 2012 07:39pm
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Deepen C
May 24, 2012 10:10am
Only after seeing this I feel history should repeat itself!
A Jan
May 24, 2012 06:00am
How nostalgic. And a dictator over all our dreams and changed the destiny of a nation in one go... Who is going to set things back on track and restore a sense of decorum and taste to this hapless nation?
@AshrafGul
May 24, 2012 06:03am
Nice pictures pal
Munir Kakar
May 24, 2012 06:20am
Yad-e mazi azab hi yarab. That is how i felt when i was looking at the photos of the days gone by. To me the most puzzling and enigmatic was that of Imran Khan's enjoying and entertaining in a night club. Pakistan's transformation is in the same proportion as that of IK's. This corelation is rather hard to explain but the fact is political oppotunism and expediency are the factors which pushed this country to the brink. Can IK pull it back which i think he should if he could.
Aasma Qamer
May 24, 2012 06:23am
Nothing to say but Kabhi hum bhi khoobsurat thay...!
Ali
May 24, 2012 06:23am
I am not for nationalistic or any associations for that matter however seeing these images above gives a mixed feeling of seething rage, agony and desperation. There is nothing to add to what you have been saying for the past few months NFP. Religion or any other ideology was created to guide people to a normal and peaceful life and how have we(whole world) have found a way to torment every good ideology. I just wish to see a day where people understand all the important things in life are very simple and the biggest truth of all is that there is no universal truth. Everything is relative. Live and let live, listen and learn from people, be not rigid in your views, do some introspection and try to use your most precious commodity (brain). It doesn’t hurt to say I or we were wrong because only then we can make amends. Unfortunately, it takes less time to destroy then to rehabilitate and realistically speaking, I don’t think I see a change within the Pakistani context in my lifetime. Keep up the good work NFP.
ali
May 24, 2012 06:42am
Well we can lure tourists by advertising ' Karachi: Come see live gun fire'.
Dev
May 24, 2012 06:51am
It seems Pakistan was a normal country like any other, before its governments starting looking everything from religion lens, being afraid of religious hardliners.
Pradeep
May 24, 2012 06:51am
Great collection of photos, appreciate all your hard work in putting these together.
Naseer
May 24, 2012 06:58am
It doesn't seem, it WAS! Thanks to our military and state's distorted versions of religion and patriotism, this once vibrant and tolerant Muslim country has been reduced to a fascist security state with all kinds of hate-mongers and a clueless state and government.
Naseer
May 24, 2012 07:01am
NFP for years now you have been an asset as a writer. You've been warning this country about the hole it has been digging for itself in the name of religion and ghayrat, but how many are listening. And thank you so much to showing the young generation a Pakistan that was tolerant, progressive and in touch with the world.
austrianecon
May 24, 2012 07:01am
Mullah Mahdudi and his protege Zia ul Haq has sent Pakistan into the cave-ages. That was a strategic inflection point that transformed Pakistan for the worse.
PakJam
May 24, 2012 07:08am
I was born in 1975 grew up in Zia's era Lahore and now that I am in my mid 30s and have moved to UK for good. I sometimes feel that I have lost a good part of my youth and Zia lost his life trying to make me 'acha musalman'. I think Zia failed!
Cyrus Howell
May 24, 2012 07:12am
I believe there is a universal truth people do not wish to acknowledge, one that has little to do with religion but rather with Man's nature.
Cyrus Howell
May 24, 2012 07:17am
For that to happen Imran Khan will need, perhaps, more courage than he has - and he will need help in any case. + "Because you don't take an interest in politics that does not mean politics will not take an interest in you." (Pericles)
Rizwanul haque
May 24, 2012 07:24am
This was my Land , my city & my people, i was lucky to enjoy the happenings of that time, a very hard work by Paracha, I am sure had we not lost the direction & pace at that moment , today the country & people would had been very different & peaceful and definetely prosperous too. Karachi always hsd been the hub of liberal & innovative activities and still is depite all wrongs growing around it. Bravo Karachities.
Ahmed
May 24, 2012 07:24am
Karachi: "thou shalt yet be the glory of the East.” I wonder if Karachi will ever be the same again. I am a religion person but I have no objection with all these things that Karachi boasted purely because if this is the price you pay for freedom of speech, peace, harmony, economy, law and order....then so be it. Thanks NFP for sharing this stuff.
Capricorn
May 24, 2012 07:24am
What an awesome country it used to be. Now as an American I am scared that I will get beheaded if I visited. My great uncle travelled all over Pakistan, even the tribal areas in the 60's. He used to talk about the hospitality he received from Pakistanis till the day he died. I hope it gets better so maybe I can visit.
sajid
May 24, 2012 07:27am
every country will be normal, if the govt leaders are par with people of the country. even when Bangladesh was created unfortunately,pakistan moved on normally. Pakistan became abnormal the moment the govt leader is one side and the people of pakistan are on different side. The abnormality of pakistan was brought about By Gen Musharaf. He is the one real responsible for pakistans abnormaility. were there any suicide bombing before musharaf turned pakistan into a u.s.a territory. He is the devil here, he got scared, the people of pakistan were not with him and he knew it, they supported afghani brothers no matter what. and this hell was unleashed on pakistan. Musharaf's decision to join the lesser of the evil (didnt he know u.s.a is the big satan itself) was bad for the country of pakistan. The only hope for pakistanis is to have steady fast faith in Allah(swt), leave the shrine worhip. and the elect Imran khan. hope fully he will bring about the change.
Cyrus Howell
May 24, 2012 07:28am
I loved this article, because I have never been to Pakistan. It is a tour. Better for me to look at Pakistan Past and Present. I go back through all those decades and can reflect on the differences between the Pakistan scene and the American scene because I am quite familiar with Dizzy Gilespie, Eva Gardner, Bob Hope and Jimmy Hendrix, et al. You are right. I never knew Pakistan was like this. Can do without the liquor and cigarettes myself, but all that advertising was a part. It was everywhere.
Naveed
May 24, 2012 07:36am
We should never forget our bases , which reflects our real image .
Shahid Ashraf
May 24, 2012 07:43am
An interesting read and sight. It's a pitty that people like me who are born after the 'era' ended, would never be able to comprehend the positive side of having a liberal, modern, and secular society where nobody judges you. I'm particularly thrilled and felt proud to see how Karachi and many other cities of Pakistan were famous tourist destination and that PIA was one of the top 10 airlines of the world for 2 decades!
Capt Mansur
May 24, 2012 07:45am
Excellent article. Took me down the memory lane. I lived in Karachi during all these times. It was a fantastic city and today in a MESS. True Zia and Maddudui and all Politicans and Military all combined to mes up. So Sad. I donot see ever Pakistan being a free coutnry again where all minorities are given equal opportunity in life. I moved to Namibia in 1996 and have never regretted my decision
Adnan Shekhani
May 24, 2012 07:46am
Nadeem! Thank you. You brought tears.
Haji Ashfaq
May 24, 2012 07:53am
Know fully well, comments of some readers are not liked but still want to share. Thank you Paracha for the pain you have taken to collect these photos. I am witness to many of them and still cherish the memory. A very rare work on the past of Karachi by you. Keep it up.
Capt Mansur
May 24, 2012 08:05am
Excellent article. Took me down the memory lane. I lived in Karachi during all these times. It was a fantastic city and today in a MESS. True Zia and Maddudui and all Politicans and Military all combined to mes up. So Sad. I donot see ever Pakistan being a free coutnry again where all minorities are given equal opportunity in life. I moved to Namibia in 1996 and have never regretted my decision.
Naveed Javed
May 24, 2012 08:12am
Make me feel like a 60 Year old man (and I'm just 24)- Really tremendous work Sir NFP, Thank You
HMirza
May 24, 2012 08:14am
Nadeem, I am disappointed. Where is Waheed Murad? He was an icon of that Pakistan. The story of Pakistan cannot be written without mentioning him.
Faizan
May 24, 2012 08:15am
So it means that Ayub Khan was great.
@sharyfor
May 24, 2012 08:20am
I guess the good days of Pakistan finished at end 0f 70's. After Zia every thing turned to black. can any other zia revert back the whole stuff as before. Well this approach seems suicidal but I guess this can work.
Ameer
May 24, 2012 08:26am
Well, democracy is now back plus NFP's party is in power so I don't see what he is complaining about.
Sana Tahir Ali
May 24, 2012 08:29am
And he does it again. NFP is not only one of the most prolific columnists in Pakistan, he is also the most interesting. Every so often he comes up with chinks of our country's political and cultural histories that have been hidden by those who are taking us into some kind of dark, violent ages. Thank you DAWN and kudos NFP.
El Cid
May 24, 2012 08:57am
Excellent presentation. You made your point without the usual tantrums. The motivated effort--time and energy--you put into it comes through and is acknowledged. Good work.Thanks.
Capricorn
May 24, 2012 09:05am
Your comment here makes me doesn't want to vote for PTI
Farhan
May 24, 2012 09:13am
Thanks NFP...a bygone age of innocence !
@naveedjami
May 24, 2012 12:09pm
Wonderful article! I had the excellent 15 - 20 minutes of my time, I am now drifted into the sweet nostalgic feelings. Dont know who and how messed it up. How wownderful was my city. I now fear going back to it, it is hijacked by pirates and dacoits. The city is molested and its natural growth was stopped othewise it would have been another Dubai or Istanbul,
Farrukh
May 24, 2012 09:20am
Goose Bumps!
kazmageddon
May 24, 2012 09:20am
all prejudice aside, but thank you mr paracha for sharing this. now i really feel i was born in the wrong era.
Muneer
May 24, 2012 09:27am
so you are not a "acha musalman" ... as you say it...... May God help you then.....
yawar
May 24, 2012 09:41am
And you are? May God help us.
Rizwan Kazim
May 24, 2012 09:46am
Once a great nation that just lost the plot like many new startups and disappeared in the dark tunnel of religious extremism and capitalism. A country with absolutely no idea where to go…sad story
Muneer
May 24, 2012 09:48am
NFP is a writer for 'so called' liberals.... these liberals are tiny minority in broader Pakistani population. now see when he talking about a book, I quote " A 1970 copy of a paperback version of the conspiratorial (and fictitious) book, ‘Protocols of Zion,’ printed in Pakistan in 1969." un-quote (and fictitious) he added..... Allow me to present an excellent example of Mental slavery. And to the rest of the column here is what the very first visionary of the country of Pakistan had say about it.... Quam Mazhab Say Hay, Mazhub jo nahin tum bhi nahin Jazb-e-baham jo nahin mehfil-e-anjum bhi nahin This is a country for practising and believing Muslims..... Liberals just have to live with it...... like it or not.... Zia Bashing will not help.......
Hindi
May 24, 2012 09:51am
Dizzy Gillespie in Pakistan!!! Amazing!!
Honey Khan
May 24, 2012 09:55am
All things aside, this post was about Pakistan's history, why insert Imran and NAwaz photo? NFP you are too good to do your politics job and show your support for Bhutto. The way you have entered the Bhutto's photo at the top and nawaz and imran at the bottom, is really remarkable. You ruined very nice post with your insertion of politics. But still i enjoyed everybit of it, except the polictical images.
Parineet
May 24, 2012 09:56am
In my opinion if he is a 'acha insaan' then it is enough. If God only favours "Acha musalmans" and not "Acha insaans" - then I have to give him a piece of my mind.
yawar
May 24, 2012 09:56am
Muneer is a perfect example of today's intolerant, misguided and arrogant pakistan. Big on rhetoric, small on progress. Lagey raho.
yawar
May 24, 2012 09:58am
@Muneer So you are a "acha muslaman"? God help us.
Moiz Hussain
May 24, 2012 10:07am
Bravo NFP. Though not part of the era highlighted here, I really wish I would have lived those times in Karachi. Today, if we look around, can we come up with one thing we can market internationally with pride?????
Faysal
May 24, 2012 10:07am
So ironic that you start with a picture of "chairman" ZAB, the architect of social, political and economic decline of a vibrant Pakistan. He was the one who bowed to the islamists and gave us an Islamic constitution. He ws the initiator of hypocrisy in this country.
Ashish
May 24, 2012 10:17am
I see a free and vibrant society in these pictures.
furqan
May 24, 2012 10:32am
yes you are right everything messed up when they start looking everything from religion lens but that religion was not islam :) if they look it through islam then surely we are in better condition ..
Salman
May 25, 2012 04:24am
All Generals and the ARMY brought ruin to the country. They considered themselves custodians of the national interests and glued themselves to the helm of affairs for decades; We bought weapons for them by sacrificing the education of our children, health of our people. We gave them immunity even when they did corruption, because they belonged to the 'PAK Fauj' clan. They created Jihadis, created Madrassas, fought American war in Afghanistan and are now fighting the American war in northern areas. They themselves created political parties like PML-Q, MQM, IJI, Religious parties, then corrupted the politicians and later tried to tell us that politicans are bad. They call us Bloody Civilans; They have been lifting people from their homes (the missing persons case); They run huge corporations like DHA, Fauji foundation, Askari cement and forcibly pursue their commercial interests; Lastly, they play with our emotions by having those "milli naghmay" ... they are an organized mafia
Y. Bhatti
May 24, 2012 11:17am
This is going to make a lot of conservatives very nervous. For years they have been filling the heads of young Pakistanis with all sorts of lies about their religion and country. They've put in a lot of effort to hide the more tolerant aspects of Pakistan's history. But Paracha is a master fighter. A clever tactician. He always comes around and outsmarts these people by showing the young ones that Pakistan has a rich cultural history of tolerance. A history that threatens those who try to build their careers on lies spoken in the name of faith and patriotism.
haris
May 24, 2012 11:19am
Zia-ul-haque wrote the script for the decline of Pakistan.
jgrozny
May 24, 2012 10:51am
Reblogged this on JGrozny's Blog and commented: Amazing!
AHA
May 24, 2012 10:53am
So true.
AHA
May 24, 2012 10:55am
@NFP. This time, you only made me cry. You are excellent, ass ever.
haris
May 24, 2012 11:00am
We owe the current destabalization in Pakistan to zia-ul-haque he ruined the country for his own good. he was worst than a dictator he imposed his own religion on masses. I really hope people know by now what he did to Pakistan.
Kumar
May 24, 2012 11:02am
Very True. Also they didnt accepted East Bengal's majority in elections and their basic rights that ultimately created Bangladesh
haris
May 24, 2012 11:06am
This country was perfectly normal before fanatics and fundamentalists who have distorted the true image of Islam took over and presented their own version of the religion. You must study religion before coming up with such hard core beliefs. Islam is not what these religious clerics and telling in mosques. People who want a conservative governance in Pakistan can migrate to Afghanistan please live and let live muneer.
Adnan
May 24, 2012 11:45am
In Pak islam and expediency are the same
JAVED A. KHAN
May 24, 2012 11:47am
Good collection of photos. It should also include the video of Jackie Kennedy's visit to Peshawar and how she was seen mingling freely with the people of Peshawar on the streets + Lindon B. Johnson's visit to Pakistan and his invitation to Bashir the camel cart owner to visit the USA. I wish Pakistan would become a very peaceful place once again. Living in Canada for such a long time and watching the current situation over there makes me feel sad. But, this collection of good old photographs have brought back some fond memories and a glimmer of hope that, we were such nice hospitable people and our country was safe for everyone. May Allah bring back the peaceful times once again. Ameen.
rcs
May 24, 2012 11:49am
muneer is bigot.such people have brought disgrace to pakistan. They are completely morally bankrupt
Essaar
May 24, 2012 11:55am
Imran Khan is just a man. Change has to come from the people. Although, if you believe in the saying that a leader of a country is like its people - you should be proud if Imran Khan becomes your leader.
Navaid
May 24, 2012 12:05pm
Well done !
Hoon (India)
May 24, 2012 12:06pm
Can't believe it's Pakistan, seems no different from India of the same era !
Steve
May 24, 2012 12:06pm
Conservatives and liberals.. Do Muslims also have this dichotomy?
A.R.Qureshi
May 24, 2012 12:25pm
We do miss this Pakistan with True Freedom of life, never know before that it used be like this. Hopefully we as young generation can rebuild and have this freedom.
Mbashir
May 24, 2012 12:37pm
Mere bhai Peale Achaa insaan bann to tu Achaa musalmaan ban paye ga. Achaa musalmaan banne ke chakaar mein an to insaan ban paye ga an musalmaan. All you need to become is bande da puttar.
hamid
May 24, 2012 12:39pm
great picutres and glorious past but now every thing destroyed no tourist just dirty sand at beach. i love old karachi pictures but hollywood movie ava gardener watch at london. great effort at dawn.
Yahoud
May 24, 2012 12:40pm
Protocols of Zion,
Agha Ata
May 24, 2012 12:48pm
That was Pakistan of the past, young, healthy, so beautiful and seductive. Then it got leukemia!
Farhan
May 24, 2012 01:00pm
Muneer, the long-term psychological, cultural, economic and political damage which Zia brought to this country and it's people in 12 years, our worst enemies could not even have dreamed of achieving in a hundred years.
n.qureshi
May 24, 2012 01:11pm
this is the pakistan i remember before i left in 1982.people were honest and tolerant and mostly secular.over the years people have become more religious,less tolerant and corrupt.organized religion is a curse.
Farhan
May 24, 2012 01:14pm
i need to give u a piece of my mind....with what u think we make acha insaan is ur thought my friend...and with what a acha musalman becomes a acha insan is GOD's rules created by GOD to make us acha insaan...now r u a better planner or HE is...i hope u get the point...
ahmad butt
May 24, 2012 01:28pm
Ah NFP, why do you shower salt and spice on the wounds of those who didnt move overseas living during this era and worked hard in Pakistan thinking it will be a first world country during their retirement? I have shown this article to elders and they all show a faint smile saying this was once a glorious Pakistan much envy to so many countries. Living overseas i have met retired foreign navy officers who said they loved Pakistan over India, loved the clean sea, loved shopping and being on the streets where they felt secure rather than harrassed, ive met hippies who joined in anti-war rallies and boast partying in Pakistan esp Karachi and Peshawer and apologies for their country's role in making Pakistan one of the least livable countries in the world. Why do you want the youth of this country to face a stigma on what will happen to their future? who should be blamed, failed democracy, army, mullahs(so called) ,or the people who have tolerated them since independence?
Adeel Khalid
May 24, 2012 01:34pm
Look! how extremism vanishes the legacy of a nation.
Mohammad Ali Khan.
May 24, 2012 01:43pm
UNITY=We should rise above being Sunni,Shia,Ahmadi,Barelvi,Deobandi,Christian,Hindu,Sikh,Parsi,Punjabi,Sindhi,Mohajir,Pathan,Balluchi,Saraiki,Hindko.Gigiti,Balti,etc. Stop nepotism. FAITH=Have faith in our ability and resources to establish a just and honest society. DISCIPLINE=Persevere and be organized, with patience and determination.
Well Wisher
May 24, 2012 01:44pm
The so called "Islamization" destroyed Pakistan.
raika45
May 24, 2012 01:49pm
If only you had the time machine to travels back to the past and get rid of Zia and Mush at that period, what a wonderful Pakistan would have emerged.
Ayaz A. Siddiqui
May 24, 2012 01:49pm
I was born in '87 and do not have much recollection of the good old days but there as something about the Red & White Cigarette ad that brought faint traces of how it use to 'feel' when I was very young. It seems everything from the sound and smell to the color tone of my vision has changed when it was sort of monotone then as compared to these days where its more vivid. But enough of artsy ramblings, I have mixed opinions about NFP always highlighting the use of alcohol and nightclubs to prove a point. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Tolerance can also be highlighted through other means such as intermingling of gender, general air of security, people being mindful and courteous in public. Extremism at either ends of the spectrum is extremism after all. Having said that, it is truly heartening to believe that such equality and freedom of action use to exist in my country. I can watch these pictures all day.
Aniket
May 24, 2012 03:13pm
Can someone please define what is 'acha musalman'? Or maybe what is NOT an 'acha musalman'?
BRR
May 24, 2012 01:50pm
A simple mind seeking simple solutions, without getting ready for hard solutions, without understanding the complexities - inability to comprehend the modern world is evident in such thinking.
Once a Pakistani
May 24, 2012 01:51pm
Once I was a Pakistani. I loved Pakistan, but no more. I love Bangladesh now; it is my home and country. Pakistan has been destroyed by Pakistani Army. In 1947, there were 3 crores of pakistanis, and 4.5 crores of Bangalees. Still Banglaees agreed to have the same number of MPs from both Wings of Pakistan. It was a tremendous sacrifice made by Bangalees, but we all know what happened afterwards. Cliques and cronies and armies always denied the rightful place for poor Bangalees. We waited until 1970, and then decided to leave. Bangladesh is now in a much better position than Pakistan. We have established a democracy free of Military might, and at least have regular elections to elect a Government by the people and for the people. We inherited from Pakistan the ills of bad politics and we are still struggling to correct them. We shall do soon.
Ashok Pandey
May 24, 2012 01:52pm
NFP... You rock.. I liked the collection..of teh photos
observer
May 24, 2012 01:54pm
While being nostalgic and teary eyed has its place. Can any one suggest ways of reclaiming the lost glory.
ahmed
May 24, 2012 02:05pm
still very hospitable people. we are still tolerant people. we just fight among ourselves, but we cannot fight an invading army - indians, bollywood, hollywood, drones, kargil, east pakistan, etc.....Pakistanis as people are still same poeple and like people all over the world, we fail only when we try to become united. individaully we all succeeed in our own little ways.....
saleem
May 24, 2012 02:13pm
count me in Parineet
Vijay K
May 24, 2012 02:14pm
Faizan, I agree... relatively speaking.
fika77
May 24, 2012 02:21pm
and still you read everything about pakistan. why? You havn't moved on mentally my friend.
Muhammad Ahmed
May 24, 2012 02:21pm
Bravo! Anyone can restrict their lens to redefine normalcy. It is a cyclical thing. Greeks slept with other men and children. That was normal for them and now the children part might be frowned upon. Cannibals eat other people and that is normal for them. Leftists have different sense of normalcy and the right wing nuts have a different sense of normalcy. Like someone commented, it is all relative to your own reflective equilibrium. I think most of the people who consider these pictures normal would be ex pats and the people who do not live in Pakistan. This normalcy also has a high cost associated with it. People need to know why there were so many people at a socialist / PPP rally in the first picture? There were serious issues with how labor was mistreated and ZAB was popular because of his socialist views. ZAB was also responsible for nationalizing all the industry and pretty much killing any economic progress that has been highlighted in these pictures. People should know why Bangladesh separated? ZAB insisted on forming a separate govt in west pakistan when his party technically lost the elections. Army definitely has a greater blame for that disaster but it should be shared. Is Zia responsible for the extremism that we have? Yes. He has a bigger part of blame but so are the majority of the people including politicians. One person did not do it all. All of us did it together. Now NFP, Ex pats or mullahs will not define normalcy. People of Pakistan will figure it out by their own experimentation. These records are great contribution from NFP and I appreciate his role as historian but they do not show the complete picture of what was actually happening in Pakistan in 60s, 70s and 80s.
Sharique Siddiqui
May 24, 2012 03:27pm
Totally awesome.. It is really ironic that we have moved so far away from being vibrant and alive.
Indusonian
May 24, 2012 03:30pm
A very nice way to capture priceless prestige/heritage of this land of the pure, must be a hard find. Though, this only remains as pleasant nostalgia, but, I assure you, we will bring this country back to normalcy soon. I must say to NFP - Awesome job.
aaa
May 24, 2012 03:38pm
I do think its alot what we perceive and what is reality. Even though religion and ghayrat come in the way to accept anything new and different still i majority in Pakistan has in the last years humbly acknowledged india being better than them in certain fields and also everyone acknowledges all the progress in west. This i feel is a big step which many countries are not able to take.
Nauman Dar
May 24, 2012 03:45pm
I am not sure what "Normal Country" means but I am hopeful things will change specially when the invasion ends in 2013. That could well be our last chance to move forward as one nation.
Naren
May 24, 2012 03:48pm
Sorry to say but...Pakistan is going backwards...Just like Iran did...If that is what people of Pak wanted so be it
Danny
May 24, 2012 04:08pm
haah I cant believe that there were women in biknis on clifton sea...wow....
Devendra
May 24, 2012 04:09pm
You still don't get it, Furqan. When you force religion on people, even if it is Islam, it leads to destruction - PERIOD.
G.a
May 24, 2012 04:15pm
Some comments here seem to support Pakistan's 'Islamic' character. You guys are entitled to your opinion. Just a small request: when arts and music is banned and all women are put in a burqa and men made to grow beards and forced into the mosques - please DON'T bother applying for immigration to non-Muslim countries. Thank You!
Devendra
May 24, 2012 04:22pm
There are more than enough Muneers, unfortunately, in Pakistan. Muneer, if I can be a friend (actually, I don't want to be to some one like you but be as it may)......Please pull your head out of your.........and breath some fresh air. Pakistan is lucky to have people like NFP
Sudhir Kumar (India)
May 24, 2012 04:29pm
was it Pakistan? you must be kidding! such warmth, grace and tolerance.... what have you done to your country guys?
Virendra
May 24, 2012 04:34pm
Pakistan (and Karachi) looks like THE PLACE to live in, in that era. I wish I lived there that time, but I am glad I did not.
L. Manohar
May 24, 2012 04:36pm
Islamized guys are arrogant, conceited and totalitarian. The comments by these islamized guys here prove this.
obaid
May 24, 2012 04:44pm
Me too . Zia -- the Amirulmominin , destroyed this country in and out . We will neverrrr be the same what we were prior to his coming to the scene .
Sidra.
May 24, 2012 04:45pm
very well said, mr. Ayaz.
paktvportal
May 24, 2012 05:00pm
Ai jazba-e-dil gar main chahoon har cheez muqabil aa jaey Manzil ki taraf do gaam chloon aur saamney manzil aa jaey
Obaid
May 24, 2012 05:03pm
I am an ex Army Colonel and fully endorse the views expressed by my brother " BLOODY CIVILIAN ". Feeling too glad to see such candid and so realistic analysis coming from a person who shares my views . By the way , I used to have the same views even when I was in uniform .
indiajones
May 24, 2012 05:03pm
If any Karachi-ite or a Calcutta-walla, slept in Empress Market and woke up in New Market, or vice-versa, he would think he was in the same city. And that would not just go for a market, but for any street corner too, in these two bustling metropolises.
Gurdeep
May 24, 2012 05:08pm
Yes, be a change yourself.
Rizaw
May 24, 2012 05:28pm
Best Comments i guess.....
darr
May 24, 2012 05:30pm
True, We were khubsoorat, With mosques, temple, churches and tower of silence , All had same respect and place in society. I still remember, Parsi colony, Hindu para, Living side by side with Muslims and Christians. My neighborhood shoe repair man was a Jew.. Please god return all those religions to my city and take away this hate back to hell.
ATHER BOKHARI
May 24, 2012 05:31pm
yes every thing was going fine it was the black day when america threw awy 1 tissu paper AYOUB KHAN & planted 2 tissu BHUTTO & THEN THE 3rd the worst in the history of world zia ul haq the filthest tissu.naw time has come enough is enough.We must take leason from IRAN.ATHER
Rizaw
May 24, 2012 05:35pm
deobandi blabberings....a typical Imran Khan supporter.....
Rizaw
May 24, 2012 05:39pm
man.... you made me ask this.....whats your academic qualifications? Quoting Iqbal won't help nowadays. He was just another shayar who turned to fundamentalism in one of his mood swings. Don't forget he was the one who wrote" Mazhab nahi sikhata , aapas me bair rakhna...Hindi hain hum-watan hain....Hindostaan hamara.... What happened to that sher?
Hassan Durrani
May 24, 2012 05:48pm
Pakistan the center of world attraction & beauty ...before Zia
Peace
May 24, 2012 05:59pm
Just focus on the liberal and peaceful side of life up to the 70s. If alcohol is shown this does not mean it is ok for everyone to drink. Remember the architect of filth, dictatorship, corruption is Zia-ul-Haq and the army is still looting the country. Zia in the name of Islam did this and people still disgrace Islam like mullahs and politicians who terrorize and distroy the lives of ordinary peace loving citizens.
Rafiq Ali
May 24, 2012 06:02pm
"Also Pakistan" and "Also Pakistan II".... they have brought tears to my eyes. My wife wonders why, but I am sure she will not understand or appreciate the memories. I am sending the link of these pages to my parents back in Karachi. Thank you.
Bea
May 24, 2012 06:09pm
I dont even live in Pakistan looking at these pictures of the old Pakistan shocked me the old pakistan could have easly competed with London or New York, what happened i agree with what darr says bring back the old pakistan and then you can show the world who you really are.fantasic article loved the pictures.
Salim
May 24, 2012 06:20pm
In 67-68 students of D ow Medical College were duped by ZAB. We plunged headlong to thisPIed PIper believing he was a Liberal and a champion of the poor and down-trodden. l. He used every noble liberal idea as a tool of his evil design towards his Genetic Wadera dream of being a dictator if not an outright King. Yes I was one of the young fools held in transe by him. I visited 70 Clifton with Mairaj and Rashid Hasan many times. And this was before PPP was formed and Roti K para Makaan was coined. WE heard heartwarming promises and great oratory. Very little took practical form. Yes Zia was Pure darkness his given name. Can any one argue: IF THERE WAS NO ZAB , THERE WOULD BE NO ZIA!
Solomon2
May 24, 2012 06:22pm
The old is Jinnah's Pakistan, the new is Zia's. Hail Zia, the true Father of Pakistan!
Rahim
May 24, 2012 06:24pm
Conservatives are group of people who prefer be-headings and Liberals generally prefer explosives.
rahim
May 24, 2012 06:27pm
And how is it working for you.
Rahim
May 24, 2012 06:29pm
So Sajid, before Mush there were no militants. Even if they were they didnt had AK 47s, even if they had they were only used for scratching their backs?
Thind
May 24, 2012 06:55pm
I am from Punjab, India and visited Pak in late 70's. Pak was more "modern/western" with all phoren maal and all...i had bought myself a pair of puma shoes:) Plus the TV channels (got them in India) were a billion times better. Got to see Chips, Knight Rider....Although India Pak were sworn enemies, I believe, religion tolerance was more in my dad's generation, both sides of the border. I am finding it hard to explain "religion tolernace" but there was some decorum in the rivalry.
Saad
May 24, 2012 06:59pm
I never comment, but seeing Faisal's comment I had no choice. Bhutto is the architect of Pakistan's destruction. In 1974, by enodorsing teh second amendment he turned the state into a decree issuing institution. Prohibition of liquor, gambling and making Friday a weekly holiday, were this rat's gifts to Pakistan. I don't believe in God but if there is one, and if there is heaven and hell, may that rat burn in the deepest and hottest pit of hell. Not to mention his other gifts of ethnicism and nationalization. NFP, I love your work but I do wish that you would be more objective when it came to Bhutto.
Srini
May 24, 2012 07:20pm
God needed a man to create him (or her)! I hope your future generations, if it survives, will understand this.
Mike Malick
May 24, 2012 07:24pm
Oh Yes, the good times, the way they were. The whole mess was created by the United States by support of the military dictators who mindlessly followed the diktat. Zia tried to convert the whole nation to fanatic Islamic zealots. The US instigated that because they needed Mujahideen as fodder for their Afghan war to fight against the then U.S.S.R. Don't forget Osama was created by U.S. The events turned full circle and the same Mujahideen created by the U.S. now became enemy No. 1. Another U.S, puppet military dictator Musharraf followed and joined the war on terror. If only Pakistan had steered clear of these short sighted decisions for the sake of temporary minimal benefits.
Srini
May 24, 2012 07:30pm
NFP is a rarity in Pakistan. Pakistan is filled with Muneers. the comments here are not trully reflective of the Pakistani population. Mostly these are rich elites sitting outside Pakistan. Most normal pakistanis read Urdu paper and for them Internet is "haram". They are all thoroughly brainwashed in the past 30 years in both the Madarasas and the regular schools. If they start the cleansing (of the mind) now, it will take 4 to 5 decades, before they win back the minds of the people and erase all the crap. For this PA needs to play ball, and let go of their day dreams (strategic depth, thousand cuts, Flad in red fort etc) and also swindle less money from the civilans. I don't see any motivation for that. The current set up works well for them.
nmg
May 24, 2012 07:51pm
Well said
nmg
May 24, 2012 08:09pm
General Yahya, asked Zulfiqar Bhutto to have a first session of national assembly in Dhaka on majority part Awali League's request. He refused, and said we will the break the legs of anyone going to Dhaka. ZAB was the one who believed in taking charge of Pakistan, no matter half of it. ZAB nationalized schools, banks and industries that messed up the country. When it was time for his re-election in 1977, he made all the bad decisions of using the religious card. He closed night clubs, race course, liquir stores, changed the weekend to Friday and banned Qadianis. He was the one to bring Zia as ARMY CNC. Then he created worse situation during nad after the election, that bring Zia to power. NOW TELL ME HOW IS TO BLAME???
Salar
May 24, 2012 08:10pm
The sad thing is that followers of a faith do something and people point at the religion. Islam was not born some 20 or 30 years ago; but all this mayhem did get started some 30 or so years ago. Islam taught tolerance before and it is teaching it now. When people do bad things they try to attract help and support and religion is what they sometime use to attract support.
ahad
May 24, 2012 08:23pm
good collection, but i must object to the repeated promotion of a pakistan where drinking and such activities were common, send the wrong message to victims of nostalgia.
Kevin Mendonca
May 24, 2012 08:28pm
Nadeem your Column is good and interesting, its a good education for the younger generation of Pakistan to see and learn and make the changes, you have dug deep and came up with a very interesting report on the past decade of as we say " Good Old Pakistan " I see you have taken a few of the items from the LMK website, I think you should credit the people that have painstakingly gathered this info for all to enjoy, you will be surprised that its a collaboration of muslims, parsi, chinese, catholics and many more that have created and contributed to the website, to show the next generation what Pakistan used to stand for and what it has become today. Keep up your good work and looking forward to reading more of your writeups
D.U.C.K!
May 24, 2012 08:51pm
Mr. Nadeem Paracha, All these things are very good to know and share but we have to pint out that some of the photos of the pop bands have been used without links or credit and in some places have been captioned wrong. Please fix the error.
lmkonline
May 24, 2012 09:09pm
Mr. Nadeem F. Paracha if you want to pick information........... Here I am giving you our link. Take it!! And record accurately!! http://lmkonline.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/irwins-...
FACTS
May 24, 2012 09:30pm
Really??? and what about Zardari?? next time keep your opinions to yourself you are making fool of yourself.
Imran
May 24, 2012 09:35pm
It was far ahead of the India of that era. It really was SHINING.
Imran
May 24, 2012 09:36pm
So do I
Syed
May 24, 2012 09:47pm
Will you stop whining. What NFP is trying to show is how things were before we forgot and turned out what is now a days of pakistan. Take it easy. If you think you are any better, write one and send to dawn. The purpose of this article is information nothing more.
Syed
May 24, 2012 09:49pm
You mean zia's hell. .....
Syed
May 24, 2012 09:50pm
Well we were made fool then and the tridition hasnt changed so far.
Syed
May 24, 2012 09:55pm
Khud to gaye general sb. Aur hamaray leye suffering chor gaye. From ayub to musharraf, same trend. Generals are only good in army.
Munir Ahmad
May 24, 2012 09:56pm
It is very easy to blame a dictator or two for all the ill-directed changes in the society of Pakistan. The fact is that this change was the sequel of all the wrong doings and injustice exercised by the so-called liberal and 'educated' segment of that society (ZAB being an icon of that segment). Most of the images shown by the author as indicators of an open society were the privileges enjoyed by this minority of the country. I agree that the country was liberal and tolerant in that era but the worst thing tolerated by the common man was the acceptance of the corruption of the elite and the powerful.This is what brought the decline, what followed was the inevitable.
Kashif Shahzada
May 24, 2012 09:56pm
Very interesting collection of images showing the past of the country. Making one factor the scapegoat for Pakistani societies degeneration is not a just analysis. A variety of factors, both within the country as well as through environmental forces outside of it have caused the current situation. Religion and ethnicity have been unregulated in Pakistan which is why they have caused damage than construction. Diverse beliefs, races and cultures are a nations strengths but if not harnessed for the common good they can divide communities. Religious groups, as well as political parties need to operate within the domain of law. Rulers, civil servants, the military and the elite classes should also be fettered within law and not be above it. The root cause of problems in Pakistan is absence of justice and poor governance by inept and corrupt administrators. Foreign meddling is of-course blatantly visible and ruling it out of the equation will be tantamount to closing one's eyes to ground realities but an efficient legal system will strengthen the people and prevent others to influence their own agenda on the masses. Pakistan is a young nation in comparison to other nations. It has tremendous potential as it is gifted with immense raw material in terms of land as well as population. If channelled in the right direction it can become a regional economic power. But without justice and fair-play in society this is not possible. It is because people practice and support injustice in Pakistan is why it is facing hardships. Injustices against the poor, the minorities and against weaker segments of society are becoming commonplace. The day justice and rule of law prevail will be the day of renaissance in Pakistan. Justice for all - even to enemies, says the Qur'an.
baloch aadenk
May 24, 2012 10:08pm
pakistan is at the verge of diappointments, these beautiful peace pictures fill the heart with sorrow by comparing them with today's condition of pakistan
kamakazi
May 24, 2012 10:10pm
hai, kya yaad dila dia zalim ne !!!
Waqas
May 24, 2012 10:10pm
Vibrant society = alcohol, drugs and nightclubs? These photos seem to be the of the grasshoppers that wasted our countries summer away on booze, adult films and parties. liberality = progress? The two are separate things... being progressive is not the same as being socially liberal. while being progressive is a fantastic quality.. liberality is a neutral quality. to want to improve and do good to challenge the norms of the world and to confront it with goodness is progressive.. and one can be a conservative progressive. Or a backward looking liberal... one that NFP fits into quite well. Look at what Ayub/Bhutto were given and what they did with it.... Ayub wanted to establish a monarchy and name himself king. He awarded himself the sitaray pakistan. This society that you present and are nostalgic off appears to be a facade... superficial and with no real soul. For one look at the Pakistani music today. It is way beyond than the pop trash in the US, india and else where... not because of technical quality but because of content matter..depth, morality and issues. Be it strings, noori, laal ... theirs is a music that lifts you up towards goodness instead of the 'dancing the night away and shaking that booty' crap.
Zubair, USA
May 24, 2012 10:43pm
Good effort, but nothing new, there always have been good, bad and the uggly, then, now, and probably tomorrow. However, I miss the Pakistan of late 70s and 80s, a lot of memories. That Pakistan is gone for good I think, I hope I am wrong.
dr grish
May 24, 2012 10:44pm
good work dear... thanks
Kris
May 24, 2012 11:08pm
Oh! How i miss my secular Karachi & Pakistan.
Waqas
May 24, 2012 11:26pm
Well If America decided to start war on Iran then what ...It is not because of others ...we are here because we all are responsible ...we have lost the characteristics of normal human being or normal Muslim.
Pradip
May 24, 2012 11:33pm
Personally what was interesting was seeing a pretty Pakistani face behind the sensual Ava Gardner. In my couple of trips to Pakistan in the 90s, I never saw local women ....not even in the Sheraton where I stayed, which was manned by burly mustachioed guys. Pakistan, is a classic example of what happens to a place where half its population is pushed behind walls and ignored. When will the place turn normal ....easy, when you will see smiling women on the road once more ...but perhaps not in my lifetime.
krishnan
May 24, 2012 11:35pm
In line with those times,I remember reading an article by Vir Sangvi in Hindustan Times, on how in Oxford/Cambridge ,Benazir and other Pakistanis were the sought after group where as Indian students were the poor cousins waiting to be invited !!
Junaid
May 24, 2012 11:39pm
Having been born in 1970s, I feel envious that I never got to see Karachi as a properous and vibrant city and Pakistan as a tourist destination. I also missed out on PIA as being one of the top 10 airlines in the world. Now I am settled in US and I can only hope to see those days come back to Pakistan and Karachi; minus the alcohol, cigarettes and adult films.
Junaid
May 24, 2012 11:43pm
Man, what are you smoking??? I am no supporter of Musharaf or Imran Khan, but your convoluted thinking (or lack of) is the reason why politicians have manipulated people like you to take Pakistan to a place of no return.
Mehnaz
May 25, 2012 12:14am
This is a question that even two clerics could never agree upon! There is no clear definition prescribed!!! As Mbashir said above, all we need to be is "bande da puttar"....simple :)
Kuppuji
May 25, 2012 11:46am
I am from South India. My maternal uncle was in Lahore during the closing stages of WW II, and he used to wax eloquent about the city and the people of the yet undivided country. Another relative was a Customs officer based in Karachi and he said he was planning to settle down there because he said he liked everything about the city, but of course had to abandon the idea due to the partition. NFP has done a yeoman service to bring to the Pakistanis, as well as others, the diversity, culture, and humaneness of people in the country and he has made us wonder what and when everything went wrong. (PS: I had had no idea that Pakistan had issued a postage stamp to plead for the return of the prisoners held in India after 1971 war; I had been told that India had magnanimously and without any prompting released the prisoners!!). Good work. All the best.
krishnan
May 25, 2012 12:55am
All those feeling negative about today's Pakistan,should feel happy on one point at least.Without the baggage of Partition,today's Pakistan is less strident on anti India rhetoric;Of course this equally true for Indians of those days.
Fareed
May 25, 2012 01:00am
Acha musalmans and Acha insaans are synonymous
Azeema
May 25, 2012 01:01am
Young people like you are the hope for our country!
Laila
May 25, 2012 01:04am
I just had to add…I saw these pictures yesterday on Dawn News, and was saddened by the promotion of alcohol, clubs and casinos (it was also a time of the start of casinos, though not depicted specifically in these pictures). Therefore, though Pakistan was different before the “fundamentals took over”, it was not completely on the right path at that time either. It seems Pakistan has just been in a swinging pendulum (from extreme left to extreme right). Would like to see it stop or slow down near the center of the pendulum (practicing true Islam). Not the Islam of fundamentals (who have not read and understood the true message of Allah in the Quran), neither that of extreme liberals encouraging clubs, casinos and alcohol. BTW, my implication of “true Islam” includes tolerance and especially respect of all religions and beliefs in Pakistan
Brown
May 25, 2012 03:41am
NFP With religion as the basis the bell against liberals in what constitutes Pakistan today was sounded out at its creation. It is only natural that it took this much time to reach his. The pictures are of a life in a bubble long gone.
Muneer
May 25, 2012 01:36am
So you asked, I am a Master Mariner, been around in the Oceans and seas of the World for last 24 years have seen more world then most of you. You want to be Liberal be what ever you want to be..... but the fact is that this conservative sense of the religion is not new it has been and always be in the hearts and minds of people. You want liberalism in Islam what about "the Talmud" the holy book written by Jew Rabai. ever heard about it. If Zia ul Haq was so wrong, why mentality of people did not change once he was gone. You call the democracy the best form of government, so if most people of Pakistan want a Conservative religious Pakistan Why you people just cannot accept it. That means you want democracy that suits you like US, Iranian democracy is not acceptable but Suadi Monarchy is acceptable. Bars, Night clubs Discos are still there in Karachi but under privet set-ups strictly for members, why you need it out in open, nobody from the broader population of Pakistan is missing it.
Muneer
May 25, 2012 01:45am
Liberalism means you have liberty to extract whatever you want and portray it as YOU feel fit. So Much of liberalism, Liberty to steal and not even feel sorry about it. Good work NFP.
Muneer
May 25, 2012 02:01am
Zia ruled for 11 years and Musharraf ruled for 9 years with the concept of Enlighten moderation, its just 2 years difference, why people of Pakistan did not became Moderate then.... if so you think we are not moderate enough.
guest
May 25, 2012 02:26am
Well said. Very hard to give up ones ego and accept that what they have been taught and believed is not universal truth or that same truth may be expressed in other part of world differently. Because of ego only we cannot accept that there are multitudes of ways to same goal, because that denies us the pride of being exclusive. People definitely are dogmatic and cannot accept/see other peoples view easily.
Karachi Wala
May 25, 2012 02:52am
" IF THERE WAS NO ZAB , THERE WOULD BE NO ZIA " So True! I am sure even NFP can not deny this. I would like him to write an article titled just as above. By the way, I was very young when ZAB assumed power. Neverthless, I grew up under the trance of ZAB and PPP and then came the dark age of Zia, Ziayyiat and distructive Mullayyiat.
azhar
May 25, 2012 03:13am
Salim you hit it right in the head. Let me add my two cents. CIA installed him in Ayub's cabinet at the age of 29 as the water and power minister and we still don't have them . Who knew at the time that how much a disaster he would bring. If there was no ZAB there was no war of 65 and 71. All the destruction which was the result of his hunger for power. His rigging of the 1977 elections and the bombing of Baluchistan during his tenure, the list is endless. His motto was "Self above party and party above all". You can see it happening again in Pakistan.
Azhar Chaudhry
May 25, 2012 03:25am
I wonder if our politicians can read these articles or would like to read these articles and the comments of the public. Waiting for them to stand up against corruption and arrest the people who have looted and still looting the wealth of Pakistan. Where are the brave daring leaders, politicians and the most important the public? In one go, they can be apprehended if SC gives strict orders to the law enforcement agencies to arrest those corrupt people and work in the best interest of the country, things will change over night. Wish it happen soon!
S.A.Virani
May 25, 2012 03:56am
Which country is this??? I an a person in my mid twenties and I haven't seen any of this...... I wish Pakistan was still like that a country full of hope, radiance and above all PEACE.... S.A. Virani
Qaisar gondal
May 25, 2012 03:57am
Mr NFP ur missing something in almost ur all article u wrote about booming sixty era of pakistan.that is socialist policies of ZA Bhutto.whether u like it or not all the glamour of sixties was because of growth in economy in Pakistan.our private banks,industeries were amongst the best in asia, it was quit obvious to get world attention at that time.new hotels,bars,international companies ads,tourist only come in booming economies. i am not against ZAB policies but its true we paied price of all so called socialist policies.there is nothing free in this world.
Ashar
May 25, 2012 04:04am
wah Muneer wah...900 choohay kha kay billi haj ko chali....lol. Auron ko bhi choohay khanay do aur apna deen o iman apnay andar rakho:)
DAUD MUNAWAR
May 25, 2012 04:22am
I agree with Muneer. The liberals (I call them normal because their brain,ears and eyes never close) are in minority because majority is " JAHILL" and giving bad name to Islam. I don't think that Imran Khan is any hope because he is already in the lap of MULLAH. It should be crime of the highest order and punishable by death (we might need 3 shifts,24 hours a day) for anybody to call any " KALIMA GO" kafir. May God bless Pakistan
Naeem
May 25, 2012 05:51am
Nothing to say but we have a very gud memories in history of Pakistan.. May Allah give us one more leader like Quaid who make our courntry good & Fair.
Leo
May 25, 2012 05:17am
Wow! I had been going through the article as well as every comment on it and all I found were words like "liberals and conservatives". people who believe that if they get out of their religious minds and barriers they will be free and will live happily in this world but the fact is that if there is no practicing Muslim, there will be no world. This is reminding me of the history of Muslims whenever Muslims thought that the religion was meant for people of previous era, they tried to move ahead and copied non-Muslims tried to cross their limits and did what was forbidden and had a great down fall later on! Wake up people!! Islam was not made for the era of Muhammed (PBUH) it was made for all the creatures of the world until Qayamat! Even the GOD has told us what decisions to take and when to take what is right and what is not,people here think they are more intelligent and educated than their GOD or Prophet so sad! Don't misunderstand your religion! It makes your life simple. It has best solutions! Islam doesn't teach us to be arrogant and neither does it tell to cross religious barriers. It seems quiet difficult to follow but once you get into practice, you'll know what's best.
jejwalam
May 25, 2012 06:00am
These are gone days now. You did not mention about the sports glory of pakistan. because in 1994 we were the winner of Cricket, Hockey, Squash and Snooker.
Admin
May 25, 2012 06:05am
Mistake rectified. Thanks for pointing out.
Admin
May 25, 2012 06:13am
Error rectified. Tanks for the input.
Aditya
May 25, 2012 06:20am
A few pictures here and there does not constitute a true representation of any time or nation. Sorry past was not golden. I dont know much about Zia but he appears a favorite whipping boy of all and sundry.
Usman Huda
May 25, 2012 06:24am
As a pakistani reaching adolescence in the 90's it is inconceivable for me to believe this country was so autonomous. My gratitude to the author for collaging nostalgia ( pertaining to people of that era) which would otherwise have swept away from history.This article leaves just one question lingering in my mind; where would Pakistan be today , had it stayed on its prosperous course???
Muneer
May 25, 2012 06:26am
If you are from India.... your country is on the verge of moral and social collapse."live-in" and "Its OK to be Gay" was never accepted in Hinduism as well..... go ahead destroy your own community in the name of liberalism... thats not happening here.... these so called Pakistani liberals are tiny minority in here.... they just try to be liberal if you really observe them in their household they are also conservative to the core..... Watch carefully how many women liberals have commented on this column ..... i see none.... you know why because that was the era when woman was seen as an object of use for entertaining men like these liberals and nothing more.
sana
May 25, 2012 06:31am
this is indeed a priceless collection...being part of the 80's generation, we never thought Pakistan had been anything other than what it is now! My parents and elders would tell of this Pakistan but I never believed it! It is still hard to believe! Thank you Nadeem sb!
Aditya
May 25, 2012 06:37am
Mike, Pakistanis were more than willing to join US war against USSR. And not for ideological reasons of democracy or capitalism but for money, free arms and strategic depth. You were lavishly rewarded. However Musharraf did not have choice after 911 having all the terrorist being traced to Pakistan. If Musharraf had not joined against Taliban , Pakistan would have been the target of US wrath. So this time you did not join the war out of many available options but joined because you had no option. World has not forgotten the role of Pakistan in supporting terrorism it better you dont forget as well.
Muneer
May 25, 2012 06:46am
Thank you very much for endorsing what I have trying to defend all Morning..... but wait a bit longer You will see so called "Liberals" won't your idea too...
Haveacigar100
May 25, 2012 06:48am
Cant believe this was Pakistan. What a breather for me, at least I can say that we were once normal people.
Dixit
May 25, 2012 07:11am
Truly saying, sometimes I have to force myself to believe that NFP is from Pakistan. He is on a tough mission. May god help him.
shafi
May 25, 2012 07:19am
why not to try to change Mulla's:P
H Khan
May 25, 2012 07:28am
Ill-informed people of our unfortunate country. It was Bhutto who started this all not Zia. He banned alcohol, declared Qadyani non -Muslims, Sunday was replaced by Friday and above all nationalised industries in the country and introduced Molvi to Politics.
gotham3
May 25, 2012 07:29am
NFP is not a pakistani..he is an alien zionist hindu from mars.
innohunter
May 25, 2012 07:34am
Pakistan was far ahead of india until the 80s so much so that Koreans/Indonesians came to us to ask of our strategy. Now look at them and look at us We were the one who started EMIRATES airlines by leasing our Pakistan international Airlines jet to them. Now compare both airlines
Capt Mansur
May 25, 2012 07:51am
You are correct Fikka. From heart I am still Pakistani and it will stay like that. I feel sorry for the present generation how they are being miss led and are falling behind India in education and all other worldy aspects. So Sad, sometimes I cry at my helplessness as I cannot change it back.
Rakesh
May 25, 2012 07:51am
Aasma Qamer, Your country and your people are still "Khoobsurat". It's just your leaders who have messed up many many times. Especially the rogue elements in your armed forces and the corrupt and greedy ones across the political spectrum. If only the people of both countries see through petty politics and rise above them, shall we experience peace and bliss. Peace to India, Pakistan and the rest of the world as well! Rakesh Naidu, India
Vik
May 25, 2012 07:59am
Did you visit Sheraton in a tribal area ??? Come on dude women are everywhere and ofcourse they wont be passing smiles to you.
vik
May 25, 2012 08:02am
Well said and very true. Liberalism is not about bikini, booz and night clubs...Its about your mentality, openness....and whatever people say, Bhutto was the one who was equally responsible for breaking this country in to two
Capt Mansur
May 25, 2012 08:07am
Quran does not mention Acha Muslamaan, Quran says if you accept the five pillars of Islam from your heart you are a Muslamaan, Th
tanya
May 25, 2012 11:28am
well said ,
El Cid
May 25, 2012 08:08am
Wrong! No terrorist was traced to Pakistan, but to Saudi Arabia, Germany, and the US. Please read the 9-11 Report. 'War or Terror' is an excuse, a causes-belle for other objectives. Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and finally Pakistan are to be the collateral damage, and fog minds. This is much bigger than what you in Pakistan apparenty think.
MKB
May 25, 2012 08:16am
NFP. it is murdering of truth if you say 1971 war was a civil war & AL had rebelled. It was not expected from you. You clearly knew that after they (Pakistani Army) failed to convince Sheik Mujib to abandon 6 point and share power with JFAB, the army had started centuries biggest genocide by attacking unarmed civilians, student, Intellectuals with out warning. How can you call it a civil war? If it was so, than there will be no rebellion from East Bengal Regiment, East Pakistan Rifle & Bengalis in Para military forces. It was clearly a all out attack by the West Pakistani (very preciously Punjabi dominated Army to the population of the than East Pakistan. NFP very sorry, at least not from you.
Saleem Altaf
May 25, 2012 08:32am
I believe our founder was clear that religion will have nothing to do with the workings of the state. Remember we were never an Islamic Republic from the first day Pakistan was made. We have made a country where I am grateful that I am part of a religous majority and not a minority. I think we treat our pets better than we treat minorities. Lets change our attitudes and have a polcy of live and let live. On a different note, a very large number of people continue to drink alcohol and pay huge sums of money in the black market. We should legalise alcohol and tax it instead of taxing fuel and other utilities.
manish
May 25, 2012 12:44pm
so the greatest worry that you face today is a live-in and GAY. WELL, not much would i laike to say other than the fact that hinduism is not about reconstructing a society of 3500 years back, it is about living in adjustment with your surroundings.
Rashid
May 25, 2012 08:48am
you know you are lying Pradeep
Dr.Kamar Afghan
May 25, 2012 08:54am
I fully agree with most of the comments about the brief resume of Karachi-Sindh.I was a medical student in Hyderabad.What memories we had and we cherish those memories.There were no ethnic differences.All lived peacefully. It all started with the period when Ayub khan surrendered to Shastri after 1965 war.Mr.Bhutto managed to do some repair work following the break-up of Pakistan, but the religious intervention in politics raised the ugly head and ethnic feelings along with this gradually gained momentum and Muhajir students federation in Karachi and Sindh students federation both ethnic activists groups became active and later on these two transformed themselves into political groups. This was the begining of the present stalemate in Karachi.In the seventies followed an illegal immigration from the from the seperation of East Pakistan.The Punjab and Punjabi arm must be held responsible for the present deadly situation in 2 cities of Karachi. Why all this migration only in Sindh.Is this the price Sindh and Bengal paid for bringing about the creation of this Pakistan.Both Jinnah and Liaquat Ali whom the history shall make resoponsible for the present situation in Sindh and other smaller provinces. This demand for carving out of the sub-continent migrationacross the borders has laid the foundation of present tragedy in Sindh.There has never been any mention of migration across the borders in any of the Pakistan resolutions of 1940 and subsequent ly of 1946 that there will be a migrtation and these people taking over control of urban cities in Sindh. The situation has goneon too far at present and has reached at the point of no return.The creation of .Pakistan seems to be a total failure and the leaders of that time were very short-sighted in embarking on such a disastrous course.It was Jinnah who was responsible for making Karachi as capital city of this country and the other person was Liaquat Ali who made Karachi and Hyderabad as the constituencies for himself and for his fellow immigrants destroying every thing for us and our future generations.
peera gulmitic
May 25, 2012 09:12am
Well done NFP. A unique article of the changing face of the City of Karachi, in normally cities develops form bad to good. But the city of Karachi has gone in reverse. From good to worst, thanks Nadeem Bai for sharing such a good note. Stay bless
El Cid
May 25, 2012 09:15am
Your courageous stand speaks for itself...popularity and accumulating 'Likes' are irrelevant for those who report to the Ultimate Authority.
El Cid
May 25, 2012 09:20am
Dont be so smug just because the administrater favors a certain point of view and forbids other. Muneer's argument is well reasoned.
ahmad butt
May 25, 2012 09:33am
Ive been told conservative moulvis of India didnt want partition as they thought a weak muslim minority in India would weaken their following if they preach and want to push their self-vested "cause" , and in a secular Pakistan, the educated progressive muslims would be highly educated and no one would pay any heed to them. What happened in the end was that despite maulana abdul kalam azad warnings in his book, india wins freedom, Pakistan got independent and his fears came true. the muslims will not be better off in azad Pakistan which would break up eventually. the muslims in India still face hardships even though they are slightly better off. the biggest irony is, no one, and i mean does any politician, islamist, army figure ever concentrated on making Pakistan 100% literate to the extent that people know their rights while respecting others in the process. Sir Syed Ahmed Khan wanted muslims of india to be educated, and i highly salute his cause, because in a series of recent "ghairat" articles that ive read on Dawn, ive realised that muslims staying backwards under the guise of defending islamic honor benefited a few before and continue to do so. In my school our teachers narrated the details of Pakistan historical taboos and what i learned about teh truth of our history were asking questions, especially controversial ones, instead of solely relying on textbooks. So NFP has done a wonderful job putting our fondest memories in an article, and time shall be the essence for getting our country back in order.
El Cid
May 25, 2012 09:38am
A clear definition is prescribed in the Noble Koran...look it up!
El Cid
May 25, 2012 09:41am
...and you know all this? How?
M. Habib
May 25, 2012 09:59am
Hear! Hear! Well said my friend. There should be many more like you. We would all have a great deal of respect for each other. God bless you.
Punjabi Jatt
May 25, 2012 10:22am
priceless pictures and priceless memories. back in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s there was a certain zest and purpose in every Pakistani's footsteps. But today sadly i do not see that zest or energy anymore.
AHA
May 25, 2012 10:42am
@Cid - Your question goes both ways, actually, notwithstanding the fact that a vast majority of humans believe in a creator.
Karachi halwa
May 25, 2012 11:05am
The karachi of past is different. Bugger me, I was born too late.
VJS
May 25, 2012 11:09am
Look at the "Ava Gardner shooting a scene at the Lahore Railway Station in 1954" - Everybody is wearing the Nehru topis and no skull caps...religion was so nicely kept within oneself and not many really cared about appearing like that of a particular religion.
tanya
May 25, 2012 11:24am
THANK YOU , my opinion exactly ...........
zeeshan
May 25, 2012 11:53am
hats off to you laila. shame on the people who dislike your comments.
manish
May 25, 2012 12:17pm
a vast majority of humans once believed that earth was flat.
Saurabh
May 25, 2012 12:19pm
U know the reason. Pakistan was more inclined towards US .
Dr.Kamar.Afghan
May 25, 2012 12:19pm
I am once again disappointed that you found my comments inappropriate to be published in your column.I tried to look at the problems in Pakistan from a different angel. May I remind you that i made my comments based on the realities, being a Sindhi who has spent 50 years of my life in the UK and just a half of that in Sindh where my roots are and i tried to look at this unfortunate country and its tragic creation from a different perspective.I visit Sindh quite often as my roots are there and whenever I am there I feel that I am recognised as a member of my family first and a Sindhi second in our society. The artificial creation of Pakistan looks no different than the state of Israel as both states were created by carving out lands The creators of Pakistan have proved to be short-sighted in their adventure.The Pakistanis and their leaders have been hypocrites and have had double standards when it came to accepting and recognising the State of Israel since undoubtedly situation in case of both states is identical being created one after another. .I am afraid the implications of creating Pakistan with unparallel migration ,been brewing in Sindh ever since the 1950s since the migrants (most of them illegal) have behaved exactly in the same ways as Jews have been behaving in forcing their presence and wanting to take control of our urban cities. .I feel that in any state the ethno-lingual bondage with tolerance towards each other, has proved a strong llasting factor leaving great impact upon not only the current genaeration but also on the future generations.It is much more than religion.It is the colour of skin , the ethnicity and thelanguage which attracts to-wards each other but the religion comes at the end.We clearly see the behaviour of our fellow Arab muslims towards us the non-Arab muslims.We are called by names therefore, it proves the fact of life that religion comes last but ethno-lingual factor is the fore-most in human attitude and behaviour.
sam
May 25, 2012 12:25pm
wow... good collection..
pakistani
May 25, 2012 12:30pm
better then India. u were suffering with suba movements and indira gandhi clutches and Khalistan killing fields by your army
mallik
May 25, 2012 01:54pm
Looks like what other countries including India take for granted seem to be luxury in Pakistan..Lack of self esteem as a nation is not a good sign and could this be the reason behind consistent blame game which pakistanis are playing
faizan
May 25, 2012 02:11pm
there is a very thin line between good and bad. we could not see it. the turning point was when it was not allowed by the military to form a government by late s. mujib-ur-rahman. had this taken place we would have been much happier and prosperous country. now we can only cherish our past and seeing the photos/comments cry.
Junia
May 25, 2012 02:26pm
Also, our beloved writer is ever so neutral. He finds the pose of Imran in a club, Nawaz's beginnings as pro PPP but hold on, Nothing sinister about any of PPP past or present leadership ? I am sure Mr Bhutto would have some cool poses at clifton casino.
Pradip
May 25, 2012 02:32pm
I visited Karachi in late 90s...there was not a single woman at the reception desk at the Sheraton then.. hotels are.a typical place where women are found all over the world manning the desks and yes, they smile at the guests -including in Kuala Lumpur or Jakarta or for that matter, in Istanbul....no Islamic issues there.
N.K Nair
May 25, 2012 03:10pm
Amazing photographs! This is shocking for me to know that, there was an era, when women in shorts, could publicly ride camels on the streets of Pakistan!! What a fall! Pakistan's journey from the movie "Bhowani Junction" to the documentary "Don't tell my mom that I am in Pakistan" is heartbreaking indeed!!
guest
May 25, 2012 03:32pm
Thanks to Zia that we are free of so many evils
BHB
May 25, 2012 06:03pm
I haven't been to Pakistan but found that to be the case when I traveled thru Jordan and Syria. After spending some time there, I notice that I had only interacted with men except for one bedouin woman who sold trinkets, spoke good english and loved Bachchan. Contrast that with Malaysia where I was on a bus driven by a scarfed woman. Malaysia and Turkey are two good examples of countries (that I have been to) where the people practice their faiths without suppressing half their population.
Om
May 27, 2012 09:18am
Looking at the comments, there is still some hope for Pakistan. Pakistan has to decide whether it wants to go the Malaysia way or Saudi Arabia way, or they are already on the path to Saudi Arabia? Best Wishes
Leo
May 25, 2012 06:44pm
Wow! I had been going through the article as well as every comment on it and all I found were words like "liberals and conservatives". people who believe that if they get out of their religious minds and barriers they will be free and will live happily in this world but the fact is that if there is no practicing Muslim, there will be no world. This is reminding me of the history of Muslims whenever Muslims thought that the religion was meant for people of previous era, they tried to move ahead and copied non-Muslims tried to cross their limits and did what was forbidden and had a great down fall later on! Wake up people!! Islam was not made for the era of Muhammed (PBUH) it was made for all the creatures of the world until Qayamat! Even the GOD has told us what decisions to take and when to take what is right and what is not,people here think they are more intelligent and educated than their GOD or Prophet so sad! Don't misunderstand your religion! It makes your life simple. It has best solutions! Islam doesn't teach us to be arrogant and neither does it tell to cross religious barriers. It seems quiet difficult to follow but once you get into practice, you'll know what's best
Dr.Kamar.K.Afghan
May 25, 2012 06:45pm
You must be joking.Zia was responsible for thse evils of religious extremism .He was a megalo-manic personality' He was the one who involved Pakistan into the war in Afghanistan.He had this dream of being a staunch muslim and becoming the head of a country by annexing Afghanistan with Pakistan, this had failed totally Perhaps the gentleman does not remember that when he was posted in Jordan he was responsible for killing hundreds and thousands of Palestinians as he was nothing but a mercenary and played a role of humble servant. and Americans made an example of him as he became arrogant.
farooq
May 25, 2012 07:30pm
Half of you people from my assessment do not get teh plot, the battle is not between conservatives and liberals, having strict version of islam imposed or having night clubs and bars, it is having a single law for all the masses and provide justice so there is no anguish or hatred in teh masses ; the very blame game and bickering that has been going on since the independence.Blaming the army, nationalists, corrupt politicians or religious mullahs, where does itr in. Would it be justice to wrongly judge a moral athiest over a mullah with dual standards who doesnt practice what he preaches? different set of people can co-exist and have been doing so, its called "society". This is where the newer countries like USA,Canada, New Zealand and Australia have thrived, they have based human rights and peaceful co-existence and a racist act of a few doesnt affect it. What i can gather from this article is NFP's interpretation on the degeneration of Pakistan over the decades, how unfortunate that the years went by, the question is has Pakistan really become a viable islamic country? I would hate it becoming a modern day failed nation.
Cheetah
May 25, 2012 08:27pm
have u read the article in the economist on Bangladesh, enclosing the link below. http://www.economist.com/node/21555914
Still a Pakistani
May 25, 2012 08:37pm
U guys made the rigth choice!!
MBN
May 25, 2012 09:57pm
PARACHA! SADAY DIL TEY CHURIYAN CHALANDA EY TUU!!! WHERE DID THIS TIME GO =(
Wazir K
May 26, 2012 06:12am
Glories of our nation did not stop in 1977. To all the pessimists who took their time in posting lengthy blogs here, few eye openers may serve the purpose. Jehangir Khan, a great Pakistani bagged British Open Squash Championship for 10 consecutive years, a record unbeatable. Saeed Anwar, Held a record of the most 194 runs in a one day international which could not be broken during his time. Pakistan the only nation to secure a grand slam of holding the status of World Champions in 1994 with total domination in Cricket, Hockey, Squash and Snooker. A unique status attained by any country so far. Pakistan won the 1992 Cricket World Cup, the only one in which all teams played with each other in contrast to these days tournaments in which pool system is followed. Pakistan is the only nation that qualified the status of a nuclear state without any external support, rather against all odds, and declared the status in 1998 in response to an experiment conducted by India, Thanx to Vajpayee. Successfully formulated the safest nuclear command and control system of the world, even safer than the USA. World's youngest MCSE was Arfa Kareem, again a Pakistani girl. World record holder of rowing for the max length of time is again one Pakistani. And the list goes on...... and I am much more hopeful that our siblings are far more capable than we, and will definitely bring more laurels to our country in times to come for the disappointment of many. The Aim is high, and the hopes are Higher. Long Live Pakistan..
Melarkode
May 26, 2012 09:43pm
Really?? Ask yourself again what happens after you die - the medical death. Do you go to a doctor? why ? I see you use a computer, again why? Sit down and ask yourself questions, after Fajer or Azer your choice. Ask what is good for you, your kin, is it good for others? No matter who they are .. I said "NO MATTER" You will get the answers.
kamakazi
May 25, 2012 11:29pm
u r absolutely right bro !!!
kamakazi
May 25, 2012 11:31pm
so true !!!
ali
May 25, 2012 11:45pm
better compilation than your columns,nice
Abdul
May 26, 2012 02:35am
Our Root is great Indus-Hindu--indian Cuture..... Though we are pakistan and separate country it will never remove the truth.......
Usman
May 26, 2012 03:44am
Please do not assume that it is just 'expat Pakistanis' who can identify with these pictures; my father has often narrated this picture of a Karachi/ Pakistan of a bygone era with such nostalgia,, but I always had a tough time believing him, these pictures surely depict what he has been telling me. He dreams of going back to that era and I yearn to replicate that Karachi and we are not expatriates.
HWG
May 26, 2012 04:46am
You have put it correctly sir. Next to our own language and ethnicity, it is neighburs language and ethinicity which should matter most, and not the religion of someone thousand kilometers away, even if it happens to be the same as ours. If this was not the case all Pakistanis would have been welcomed in Saudi and middle east with open arms, and allowed to settle there as they share a common religion. I do not think a Pakistani muslim is treated much differenetly than an Indian Hindu in these countries.
HWG
May 26, 2012 05:10am
Who was responsible for the atrocities committed on Bangladesh citizens so that a crore of them turn into refugees?
pankajdehlavi
May 26, 2012 05:25am
Who is achcha musalman or not ? It should not be decided by Political or religious leader. This decision should be left on God or the individual person.
pankajdehlavi
May 26, 2012 05:29am
When Pakistani's will start trying to be "Achcha Insaan" then only there can be any hope. Don't depend on one way of thought to communicate with GOD. You will end up playing in the hands of so called God's messengers or religious hardliners, if you choose to do so.
Wazir K
May 26, 2012 05:52am
You need to study more on Islam brother.
Wazir K
May 26, 2012 05:54am
Our future definition will definitely survive by the will of Almighty. You take care of your future generation which seems to be in doldrums.
Wazir K
May 26, 2012 05:57am
Seems that you belonged to a minority. However, some people dont deserve to live in Pakistan.
Wazir K
May 26, 2012 06:26am
A very balanced and thought provoking analysis by Muhammad Ahmed. Yes, we all share equal responsibility to steer out the nation from these unfriendly times. Identifying the problem is one thing but proposing a solution is another, and we would like to listen to something from the author and the newspaper on the same.
Ali
May 26, 2012 06:35am
Lets bring this Pakistan back
Anand
May 26, 2012 06:41am
Nations not founded on secular grounds are .....founded on the basis of supporting and discriminating for ... one religious opinion............. And nations founded on such flimsy grounds ... will see social fabrics destroyed. Also-Pakistan ... was a vestige of more tolerant times ******before the founding of Pakistan. The Pakistan of today is the reality of today. ... let us not indulge ourselves in the nostalgias of yesterday, and wonder about what-ifs that were never to happen. Time now .. to accept what IS ... and ask.. what Now
Ch Farooq
May 26, 2012 06:51am
The pictures and depiction of the then Pakistan given in this article quite match with the stories my parents told me in early 80s. I always wished I was born in 50-60s to see not only a happy Pakistan but also the culture, tolerance and beauty of that era. I beleive the degradation in Pakistan is massive and rapid in all aspects of life (culture and life style the most). I beleive state should not interfere in matters like alcohol, smoking, clubing for that matter. Micro management leads to hypocracy in society, as people tend to exhibit a character against their will and likeness. Even in early days of Islam Muslims and Non Muslims lived together, and Muslims didn't kill anybody on the basis of Alcohol consumption etc. Diversity and multi-culturalism is the beauty in any society which should not let go.
zafarov
May 26, 2012 07:04am
Muneer Mr Master Mariner, perhaps you ought to have kept mind open. Your reference Talmud only emphasises the point that obscurantism and extremism can be found in all religious belief systems as well as spiritual enlightenment, compassion and humanity. Most people in Pakistan always held a deep sense of devotion to Islam. But they did not violently try to impose their version of Islam or force it down people's throats. In that they faithfully followed the Islamic tenet that there is no compulsion in religion. Zia used religion as a weapon to browbeat the people into submission to his dictatorship.. People's adherence to Islam was ruthlessly exploited. His so called Jihad in Afghanistan midwifed the gun and drug culture. Education became indoctrination. Irregular jehadi groups were created , armed and sustained. and inevitably violence in the name of religion became a part of culture. Now we and the coming generations will continue to pay the price. Democracy cannot be achieved in a short time. More so when it is regularly interrupted. It may not be a perfect system but it is the best one to empower the people who's priorities and preferences are reflected in the policies of their elected representatives. Finally, perhaps during frequent your forays abroad you obviously were not informed that in every election the people of Pakistan have comprehensively rejected conservative religious parties.,
Alexander
May 26, 2012 07:15am
Just a minor correction: Dizzy Gillispie played the trumpet. Not the saxophone.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 07:26am
Knowledge, like the sword, is best when double edged...as was my question. Also the difference between faith, belief, and knowledge needs to be clarified--they are being used too loosly and interchangably here--that is the predicament of Man, Liturgy, and Religion. And you are correct Homo-sapiens is also Homo-religiosus.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 08:34am
The country is unfortunate and its people are ill-informed because a purposefull disinformation campaign is being waged against them. Note how this very article by a semi educated person with no credentials is 'teaching' history. Note also how most here are taking it for Gospel Truth! So very sad that Dawn is staging at an international scale!!
El Cid
May 26, 2012 07:57am
'Musulmaan' does not need the redundancy of a prefix such as 'Acha'. And a Muslim is by definition an 'Acha-Insaan'. The requirements of being a Muslim, as described in the Noble Koran, are far more than the 'Five-Pillars' you mention-- they are but the door way. The manner in which a Muslim is to behave and order his/her life is rigorous self-discipline as ordained in the Noble Koran. Easy to say "I am a Muslim". Very difficult and humanizing to be one. Not by mosque, prayer and fasting. They are only a preparation not a guarantee. But by 'Small kindnesses" you become a Muslim, as Allah in the Noble Koran extorts. A Muslim is by Allah's Will. Not by Man's!
Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
May 26, 2012 07:57am
Excellent - it took me to my childhood days. Good old memories. Thanks DAWN - please keep it up. Regards Dr. Saleem Siddiqi Karachi
Ali
May 26, 2012 08:02am
Islam is the religion of tolerance and peace. First of all we should understand why we end up in this situation. We unwittingly pick war with west in support of our muslim brothers of Palestine on the behest of our religious politicians. Sad part is that our these brother never accepted us as their brother. Fact is that political religious parties are funded by our Arab friend to fight war for them and kill your own people and ruin your own economy. Pakistani nation is suffering economically, people are committing suicide for not having enough to feed there family. These mullah tell our innocent people to go for Jihad. Somebody ask these mullah from where you people are getting funds, and why we fight arab war. If Arab governments have got guts they should be fighting for Palestinians not we. They are friend of Israel and America and asking Pakistani's through mullah to fight war with West and America. Pakistani nation should get together be united and learn to tolerate others, and for God sake stop listening to extremist propaganda from these Islamic thugs, they are doing all this to have a luxurious life and fill their banks with all the charities they get for Jihad.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 08:14am
What exactly in Hindu culture do you find your "root" and greatness?
Chak
May 26, 2012 09:01am
Pakistan (or more accurately the people of pakistan) lost it the day it/they were created. You cannot banish an entire community (roughly 25% of your population) and think that you are going to make a great nation. You cannot have a dynamic society when some of your neighbours don't have the luxury of even praying the way they want. A just society it never was, a liberal society it never was, all it was a few (and only a few) smiling people who minded their own business and a few buildings which sold liquor and/or had music. The mentality of the vast swathes of the public still was as it is now.
summer
May 26, 2012 10:07am
AH the glory era!! now over!! only nostalgia remains! however his Bhutto highness, the all beloved PM encouraged a new trend in karachi that we all are paying for today!! being a great supporter of the poor he derived a lot of his political strength from katchi abadis he helped created that mushroomed throughout the city center and around during 70s later becoming part of its underground economy now harboring god knows how many drug and ammo lords of all ethnicity, their habitats turned into entire shanty towns that normal ppl cant enter! good glory of a thriving port city mismanaged into a night mare!
jali
May 26, 2012 10:27am
I was not even ten when I first came to Pakistan/Karachi. It was a heaven then. I never feared to go out at night alone for errands even at that age. People were honest, outgoing and helpful and kind. I pray for my Pakistan daily. I love Pakistan too much and am still HOPING for it. One thing I will say about Musharaf. He was the one to break the kashkol (begging bowl) of IMF and we were free of IMF
prafulla shrivastva
May 26, 2012 10:27am
It was nice to read all these about your country, even today here we are mad behind so many pakistani artists, Mehdi Hasan, Gulam Ali, Abida Parvin, & lots of others. Several pakistani cricketers are so popular in India, people are ready to see Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Javed Khan, Sahid Afridi any time so it means Pakistan if full of talents but you should know how to utilize them in right direction.
jali
May 26, 2012 10:34am
Mr Piracha, Please find a picture of Ayub Khan with the queen of England. She was the first royalty to ever visit Pakistan. During Ayub's regime, Pakistan was one of the most prosperous, respected and vibrant country in the world. some may say he was a dictator. Those who have seen Pakistan during his rule, are still hoping for that Pakistan.Wishing it and Praying for it again.
Cheetah
May 26, 2012 10:34am
Read the article before patting them on the back - same problem as ours only more....
Inder
May 26, 2012 11:10am
So do you.
Inder
May 26, 2012 11:15am
Like the Taliban! If you don't think Taliban are acha Musalman, why don't you do us a favor and tell them so!
Shumaila
May 26, 2012 12:36pm
Very well said! I wish people could understand this. Taking over someone else's land in the name of the same religion has never and can never be made justifiable.
Thor
May 26, 2012 12:39pm
If I am or PakJam is acha Muslama or not you have nothing to do with it .....Mualmani is mypersonal issue you dont need to interfere with it....take care of your self and let other ppl live according to their own will....
Melarkode
May 26, 2012 09:33pm
Dear Dr. Shahib, Here is a prescription check if this works A glass of Tequila (yes the juice from agave cacti) in a glass with salt on the rim and of course a lime wedge. Life is to live and live happily once you do it, your neighbor will do it, what happened, happened lets move on. You seem to be a reasonable man, so pop in a Pankaj Udhas CD and yes something from Mexico you have all the answers to life Dr :) Capish?
AHA
May 26, 2012 12:48pm
Manish - You probably misread my post. And you are right. So many of our beliefs are getting knocked down by facts.
saeed
May 26, 2012 12:59pm
Why Muslim particularly Pakistani Muslim have no Problem living in western society and raising family there, where culture is totally unislamic , alcohol is way of life, and freedom from Religon is always welcome. But when it's come to Pakistan they want other people live Under religious and culture value.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 01:11pm
How do you think he is keeping his expensive life style abroad? Why don't you Pakistanis ask for accountability and justice? Get educated...think rationally and logically. Please.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 01:31pm
That majestic photo of Ayub Khan in full military gear, and Queen Elizabeth II in regal glory standing in the open jeep as it meandered slowly in the cheering crowd became the magnificent grand symbol which drew the world's attention and admiration to Pakistan: A strong and handsome Pakistani knight and the young British queen. It was like Camelot they said...those who remember. I have seen that photo. NFP would never bring it up--it would demolish his very thesis.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 01:37pm
Islam and expediency are mutually exclusive. Expediency is categorically and specifically forbidden by Allah in the Noble Koran.
El Cid
May 26, 2012 01:38pm
Trolling? And with that name...!
El Cid
May 26, 2012 01:49pm
...close, but not quite. He only wants to be one!
El Cid
May 26, 2012 02:36pm
Good observation Leo. But some people prefer the degenerate hedonistic lazy irresponsible life style and cloak it in a manner that pleases the unquestioning mind...
Malone
May 26, 2012 03:23pm
Indian Hindu in Saudi Arabia - yes treated differently. He/she can not only not worship in public, but images of Hindu deities found in their personal suitacases are taken away at airports.
Malone
May 26, 2012 03:29pm
Let me tell you as an ex-Hindu, curently a staunch atheist. Go get any western travel book on Indonesia (and I really mean any). On the very first pages it ill say that Islam in Indonesia is different from that in Arabia. They never destroyed the many Hindu Buddhist temples in Indonesia, because the Islam they had came from India. Most certainly Islam east of India (Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malayasia) is different from Islam found to the west of India (with the exception of Turkey). This, I humbly state, comes from the Hindu culture. At the expense of risking that this comment is not published, let me add that Salman Rushdie has said the same as above. He may or may not be a good Muslim, but his observation needs pondering.
Malone
May 26, 2012 03:34pm
Progessive is the teetotaler in hijab who maintains that others have the right to drink in bikins, if they choose to do so.
Bashir Khokhar
May 26, 2012 05:43pm
Yes, by its own people, the people of Pakistan.
Malone
May 26, 2012 07:29pm
There is a difference between being a conservative and a puritan. A conservative wants to CONSERVE what is good in her or his society. This DOES NOT and should not require telling others what to do. A puritan on the other hand is afraid that someone somewhere is having fun, and would find reasons to make everyone agree with his opinions.
Irfan Hussain
May 26, 2012 07:55pm
Karachi airport used to operate 60 flights per hour... and now it doesn't operate those 60 even in a month.. Zia ul Haq and his allies have really destroyed our homeland
Melarkode
May 26, 2012 09:13pm
Let me add some color "Tears of Joy" .... yes it happens to real people
Melarkode
May 26, 2012 09:18pm
Bravo!! Bravo again!
Aliasgar
May 27, 2012 04:33am
This is indeed great information about Actual Pakistan for today's New Generation, who are totally unaware about this fact and only know the Pakistan which is infamous for its anti human activities
Satra
May 27, 2012 07:50am
@HWG: As historical records say, it was the Pakistani army. Name of a certain leader, General Tikka Khan also pops up in the details.
Naveed A. Jami
May 27, 2012 09:53am
Great compliation, massive reponse, Heart touching.
Pradip
May 27, 2012 01:48pm
That was one funny picture...Gillespie playing the trumpet to a snake...LOL.
Sanjeevroy3
May 27, 2012 02:24pm
aap aabhi bhi khoobsurat hain!!!!!!!!!!!!!, just these dirty policitics have made the country ugly , they are themselves and are looting common people!!!!, The country needs a positive and stable change.
saleem
May 27, 2012 02:51pm
no hope Dev, think the head is stuck there forever.
saleem
May 27, 2012 02:55pm
We are quoted as example of a worst nation in the world..that is not an achievement. As Dev said above..please get you head off your...if you can...
amaal
May 27, 2012 03:19pm
Live and let live, such true and beautiful words Ali that resonate with my soul. You are a very wise man of integrity. Only when we introspect and see ourselves how other sees us, without false ego or pride and not only admit our shortcomings but accept that we are not as good as we believed, we can change. But you are absolutely correct, sometimes it may be too late after the destruction was done. We need more good people like you in this world.
saleem
May 27, 2012 03:25pm
why all followers of religion think they now the truth and rest all have to repent and follow their "true" path??
saleem
May 27, 2012 03:37pm
that just great..if you are muslim you are 'acha insaan'? how arrogant and foolish of you. lage raho tusee great hu!
hassan Zaeem Aftab
May 27, 2012 03:42pm
We should look forward.Better Pakistan I am hopefull to get a better position in the World let every body live 7 let us live No terriosm, no more violence be tollerent
Hassan ZaeemAftab
May 27, 2012 03:43pm
OK
Malone
May 27, 2012 04:49pm
Cry - that's all you can do? Why not fight back to make life more secure for the Ahmadis? Look at today's HRW report in Dawn on violence against Ahmadis. Aren't they your brothers and sisters? You could not share a country with the Bengalis - but that's done, finished. Go out and work for the security and happiness of the Baloch, the Ahmadis, the Shia, the Christians and Hindus of Pakistan.
Malone
May 27, 2012 04:56pm
Mumbai?
gp65
May 28, 2012 01:18am
You think tolerance for gays is a bad thing and encouragement of suicide bombers is a good thing. We in India believe exactly the opposite is true. You may feel that picking Shias off bus and killing them in Balochistan or Gilgit is a good thing. In India we felt communal riots are bad and there have been none in last 10 years. Your opinion of whether we are going on the right direction or not is determined by the destination you have selected. Our destination is not the same as yours. So though you feel we are going in the wrong direction, we feel we are headed in the right direction.
Dinesh
May 28, 2012 03:51am
Very interesting comments! NFP has rightly recorded and depicted here the Pakistan that was but Pakistan today is in a way culmination of a process. There is churning happening or will happen soon but we need to understand that a nation based on idea of a hatred, idea that Muslims can’t live in a country as minority, idea that religion is not a personal aspect and human beings don't have capacity to love and care people of other religions can hardly grow into a loving nation. No doubt learned Jinha wanted Pakistan to be a modern & secular country but the forces he unleashed didn’t like it then and wouldn’t like now. Their number was bound to increase even if Zia was not their there would have been some other Zia. Hope fully there will be realization soon and some kind of debate / understanding in masses that what are that values the society need to value. Till that churning happens it is still a road downhill …
Wazir K
May 28, 2012 07:03am
Islam is one religion across the length and breadth of this world. Mere perceptions are not remarkable. I have all my doubts over the name and status of Abdul when he states great Indus - Hindu Indian Culture, because difference in this singular aspect was the prime reasons for the Muslims of Subcontinent to strive for a separate homeland. People from India usually post their comments with a Muslim name trying to look like Pakistanis.
syed zahid salam
May 28, 2012 07:23am
I was 3 years old at the time of partition, my father was posted in karachi in early 50s...what a city! My three sons are well settled abroad but things are so bad that my wife and me want to move out in this late age. Would you be kind enough to give me a detail on Namibia.investment,economy and security etc ?Regards Zahid.
arun diwadkar
May 28, 2012 07:32am
this is a very vibrant depiction of JINDADIL pakistan.from india with deep affection i always hope that pakistan must be truely democratic state. true islamic state. islam means peace, brotherhood and love for humanity. desperately eager to visit pakitsan. hope the day will come soon. jindadil and dynamic society will fullfill the dream of qiedeAzam jinha
Goga Nalaik
May 28, 2012 07:39am
A Great read ! It made me cry ... Someone very nicely wrote "Kabhi ham bhi khoobsoorat thay " Thank you Nadeem. Your fan
Shubs
May 28, 2012 07:48am
"People from India usually post their comments with a Muslim name trying to look like Pakistanis. " Really?? Are you new to Dawn?
dwarkesh gupta
May 28, 2012 03:03pm
i am indian and and think pakistan was better country upto late 70s . people of pak must realise where they r now. i met some paki in tashkent in 2011 they tell us that there country is going to expire very soon
Hyaat
May 28, 2012 06:54pm
Zia may be your father, not ours.
Chand
May 28, 2012 08:03pm
Yes u r right .. Only people like you "deserve" to live in a Hell called Pakistan. You are a loser.
Chand
May 28, 2012 08:25pm
"Khalistan killing fields and look now Punjab and Punjabis are better place and people now... I am working in Indian Punjab and looking at the developments like roads , planned cities , industries... i can guarantee that it will be the next California of India..... i think if Khalistanis would have taken the control of the Province i can guarantee it would have been worst than Pakistan. Punjabi's and Sikhs now have something called humanity ... they are not religious fanatics
Arun
May 28, 2012 08:40pm
Not really...in my 10 years in UK, I have seen most Pakistanis living a very religious, secluded life there. Maybe most of them were from working class punjabis. The few professional pakistanis I met were well educated, secular in outlook and dressing but religious witin the 4 walls of their home.
Arun
May 28, 2012 08:45pm
@junaid - thats an unjust ask....prosperous, liberal and secular country should be a great place without banning/purging alcohol, cigarettes and adult films. Food for thought - each of these in excess is a problem but not as bad as religious fanatisism, gender inequality and lack of tolerance.
Arun
May 28, 2012 08:56pm
Well said....no one articulated better than you!
Riz
May 29, 2012 03:34am
Then it was the British brown sahibs and now its the religious police. Now you go and figure!
Shabbir D.
May 30, 2012 04:30pm
it was not the religion or any ism, but the greed of the politicians, beaucrts and the army, which has brought down the country. These people had and does not have any morals or love for the country and its people. They used religion, race, and anything every thing to promote their personal interest. India, Iran and Afghanistan was classic example.
Shahla
May 31, 2012 03:16pm
Beautiful post, brought tears to my eyes. I hope Pakistan could shine like it did in the past. Beautiful country with so much potential. I think you need to print this article and publish it into a book and donate the money to causes in Pakistan :) I would def buy one, it's like buying a part of Pakistan's history.
Shahla Mir
May 31, 2012 03:45pm
You need to publish these into a book. I would def buy one! Also, did you see this youtube vid of the United States Welcoming pres Ayub? Hard to believe that this is the same Pakistan of today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cF72JeKtI We need to come back as the strong growing nation that we were :'(
Aslam
Jun 01, 2012 03:41am
But what if someone wants to get away from this environment of depression and don't agree with it.
humaira
Jun 04, 2012 05:20pm
Enjoyed the trip down the memory lane as i grew up in 70s and 80s karachi...but did not like the way the prevalence of alcohol, night clubs, and bikini clad ladies - in other words the social evils of the western world are portrayed as something likeable.....Feels quite cheap and complexed, to be honest
Armaghan
Jul 26, 2012 05:32pm
I respect your opinion but I believe you are wrong!! You seem to forget the fundamental difference in the creation of both Pakistan and Israel. Pakistan was created by carving out land where Muslim were in majority and it was with the consent of Muslims of India (it is debatable about who was in agreement and who was not but majority were in favor of Pakistan). Israel on the other hand was forcefully carved out of Arab land where there were no Jews, against the consent and wishes of the Arab population living there. Pakistan was created for Muslims of the Sub-continent and not for Sindhis, Punjabis or other ethnicities. What Pakistan is facing today is purely due to our fragmentation, as people are more loyal to their own ethnicities instead of their country. If you or your ancestors were not in favor of Pakistan, then you had all the right to leave the country.
Vikas
Jun 04, 2012 09:20pm
I am from India, was born in 1986, and have never been to Pakistan. But, nonetheless, these pictures make me nostalgic. May the peaceful breeze start blowing again, may the fire of hopelessness receive an incessant rain of love, may these would-be great cities soon bask in the sun of happiness.
Mary
Jun 07, 2012 10:27pm
I remember spending many a pleasant hour using the library in the American Embassy but I thought it was on Bundar Road. Also remember Dizzy Gillespie and his band playing in Karachi, and going shopping with my friends to Boorie Bazaar. Ah! Wonderful memories, and so sad to think no-one can go out in safety on the streets any longer.
Shahid
Jun 11, 2012 06:29am
Just like Karachi (and Pakistan) has had a glorious past, as evident from these snaps, so did Islam - we ought to know the history to get hope & inspiration, and to feel proud of our Pakistani/Islamic origin and identity.
Arshad Kazmi
Jul 27, 2012 07:53am
Or we can lure tourists by advertising Karachi " Come have a blast and RIP"
Salman
Jul 28, 2012 10:32am
That speech of Quaid when he said "state will have nothing with your religion"...... was that the only speech of Quaid? and did he not talked about the Islamic Democracy in any other speeches or statements? Why is it that ppl only quote a single sentence out of his one speech (and that too out of context), and absolutely NOTHING else in any other of his numerous speeches.... .Why is that exactly? and before you start ridiculing me, i am all for secular state but not on the basis of Quaid's vision. His vision, according to my humble study was that of an Islamic Democracy, not a secular state. Current 1973 constitution embodies much of his vision waiting to be implemented in letter and spirit.
Salman
Jul 28, 2012 10:37am
:) I couldnt help but smile at the last sentence. A large number of ppl also visit prostitutes, so that should also be legalised and taxed. Just bcz something is widespread doesnt make it right. I dont get it, when and in which culture in the world is alcohol seen as a good thing, other than the ppl who are addicted to it. Just like heroine addicts would convince you that its the best thing in the world. That makes me wonder as well. Why is smoking a cigarette or weed opposed so vehemently, yet alcohol with far greater health and other risks is not opposed with as much fervor. :) May be if a take a sip, i would know.
Karim
Jul 26, 2012 04:51pm
Ayub, Yahya, Zia, Musharraf are to blame.
nad
Jul 27, 2012 07:39am
Zia had eaten 'Jawani' of many.
nad
Jul 27, 2012 07:41am
Good. That you accepted that the Western world is Muslim. So better become 'Acha insaan'.
Yusha
Jul 27, 2012 07:12am
What have they turned Pakistan to? A modern, happy and open minded society has been reduced to nothing. Really sad.
Faisal
Jul 26, 2012 10:11pm
I distinctly remember the day ZA Bhutto was hung by Zia. My mother who was a staunch Bhutto supporter was crying her heart out. Being very young I didn't understand why she was doing so. Looking at these pictures I can clearly see that on that day it wasn't just Bhutto who was killed, it was really all manner of freedom that was also squashed. What followed mars us till this day. Thanks for putting up these amazing pictures. They give faint hope that perhaps Pakistani's have it in them to get back to normalicy rather than remain the jaded nation we have become.
ahmed
Jul 27, 2012 02:29am
AS A MUSLIM, I TOTALLY AGREE!
ahmed
Jul 27, 2012 02:31am
THere is nothing to study Wazir. Name a single country TODAY that is following Islam the way it should. Name me one Country that follows proper Islam. There is no such nation, don't even mention KSA. There is no complusion in Islam but historically that is exactly what we have been doing. FORCING!
ahmed
Jul 27, 2012 02:31am
TRUE
ahmed
Jul 27, 2012 02:31am
i AGREE
ahmed
Jul 27, 2012 02:33am
kiya baat hai Aasma
Zahid Raja
Jul 27, 2012 09:17pm
well, It is always difficult to establish something and easier to destroy it. Running away is not a solution , not for those who are living inside pakistan. But the change will always come within. Thanks for abandoning. Pakistan will be saved by pakistanis and the world will see a more stronger and vibrant pakistan. We have faith and we have conviction.
Purvez
Jul 29, 2012 11:43am
'Benevolent Dictator' may sound like an oxymoron but all politically uneducated countries (that's the whole world really) would benefit from one. Ayub Khan was one of that kind. I was born in Karachi in 1953 and even as a child I remember the speed with which positive change was achieved during his short time. I used to love the opening line of all his addresses to the nation...'Merey pyarey humwatano, asalam alekoom'. I think he meant it when he said that he was one of the people. I couldn't have been more than 9 at the time but my chest used to swell with pride.
A, Nabi Baloch
Jul 29, 2012 01:19am
How much I miss Karachi is beyond belief. In 70s. I went to National College, Karachi, a hub of Surkhas then, now mqm controlled, I miss that Karachi when we went to movies at Capri, then, we went to Sabri for niharitwo in the morning.
Ahmed
Jul 28, 2012 08:48pm
I think it is nothing to do with Army. The pics shown were of the era of Ayob khan. how can u blame army? its only Zia who did certain things. and by the way many athings he did were absolutely right and ok. alas he could have controlled his crreated jihadies also than this country would have been a very good place to live.
Indian
Aug 09, 2012 03:13pm
The guys with Nehru topis are probably extras for the scene...I doubt there would have been so many ordinary Pakistanis wearing Nehru topis even in 1954
Lioness
Aug 11, 2012 03:53pm
The current young generation of Pakistanis should stomp out the Bhutto name. Bilawal should not be given any importance - he is being taught to grab and rule as if Pakistan is his inheritance from his maternal grandfather
simi khalid
Aug 18, 2012 05:14am
perfect.. strongly agree
simi khalid
Aug 18, 2012 05:19am
zabardast
simi khalid
Aug 18, 2012 05:24am
perfect analysis
simi khalid
Aug 18, 2012 07:45am
we should face the facts and their outcomes.