LAHORE: Jamaatud Dawah emir Hafiz Muhammad Saeed asserts that militants have right to enter held Kashmir to help liberate the Kashmiris from Indian yoke.
He also counseled ‘Daish’ and other militant outfits to target Israel instead of pitching the Muslims against the Muslims.
“If India can send its troops to Afghanistan, it cannot say that Mujahideen cannot enter Kashmir to win freedom for the oppressed Muslim brothers,” he argued while speaking at the concluding session of the two-day congregation of his outfit at the Minar-i-Pakistan grounds here on Friday.
Lauding Prime Minister Sharif’s stance in the recent speech in the UN General Assembly and in Muzaffarabad (AJK), he advised him to hold a frank talk with his Indian counterpart on solving the Kashmir dispute under the UN resolutions “and if the latter refuses, then Mr Sharif must side with the Kashmiris in their struggle for freedom.”
Referring to the “tactics” the ruling BJP was employing to win elections in the Held Valley, he predicted that Premier Narendra Modi would prove to be “Gorbachev of India”.
The chief of JuD, an outfit that openly supports jihad in Kashmir, said the Muslims would be left with no option if the US, India and their allies continued to occupy natural resources of the Muslim countries.
Hafiz Saeed urged Nawaz Sharif to put an end to interest-based economic system in the country, declaring that only the principal amount would be returned to the international lenders. He also asked him to work for establishing an Islamic Union on the pattern of the European Union having a common currency and defence system, and Islamic International Court of Justice, for the institutions under the UN had failed to provide justice to the Muslims.
The JuD emir also urged militant organisations like Daish (IS) to fight against Israel, purging the Arab world of the US influence, instead of wasting their energies in Iraq and Syria against their Muslim brothers.
Indirectly addressing the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan and other outfits active in Pakistan, he said those who defeated the Soviet Union (in Afghanistan) should also stop playing havoc in Muslim countries by issuing verdicts against Muslim governments, institutions and armies, and should make a beeline to the Held Kashmir for checking Indian atrocities on the Kashmiris.
Published in Dawn, December 6th, 2014



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The struggle for a free Kashmir will always continue. Down with india.
Govt. of Pakistan must act against such radical elements in their society for their own interest. Such hatemongers do nothing but polarise the sentiments of innocent peace loving people on both side of the border. Today Pakistan is on the brink of Political uncertainities and these are the people responsible for destabilising his own Country. Has Pakistan ever realised why Democracy not sustained in the Country even after 67 years of Independence ?? The day is not far when Pakistan will realise the futility of creating and patronising Hafiz Saeeds' and his ilks !!!
Kashmiris who voted in numbers, know who is Hafeez Saeed, a man with no dignity.
Yes, of course! Everyone knows it!
Nothing new in his speech. Only SUSPECTED Terrorists are dying always.
Naya Pakistan is ready to murder democracy, freedom and justice!
Don't worry Hapis, You propose, India will dispose.....Peace
"Indian yoke"? Is that his usage or Dawn's?
Where this guy is should be arrested and tried in a court of law for inciting violence. He talk about US, India etc using Muslim resources, is he for real??? What resources is he talking about???? All monitory resources are abused and used Arabs and other muslim leaders of the world. From Saudia Arabia to entire middle east, Brunei to Pakistan, and all over Africa
"Jamaatud Dawah emir Hafiz Muhammad Saeed asserts that militants have right to enter held Kashmir to help liberate the Kashmiris from Indian yoke. He also counseled ‘Daish’ and other militant outfits to target Israel instead of pitching the Muslims against the Muslims."
Spoken like a true terrorist....
Pakistan, whats wrong with you?
And then people need proof that how India is saying militants were Pakistani.
Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. Akhand Bharat.
who needs enemies,if you have such well wishers ?
No peaceful Kashmiri will join you. Come to Indian side of Kashmir and do, if you have courage.
I dont understand how a man of his reputation is allowed to hold rally and trains provided to him,,,,,to those questioning him being guilty ,,need to answer one question,,,,would a common man with no connections make militants hijack an airliner and demand his freedom?
@concerned_Cit No one will come to your aid. Struggle better for Pakistan.
It is in nobody's interest in Pakistan to restrain people like him. The very existence of people who matter,( Army ) is based on destabilising India & Afghanistan.
Its foolish of rest of us to expect them to cut the goose who lays them golden eggs in form of inordinate power in lording over country's matters. And they are not the on the only ones to blame. Sizeable chunk of local populace, would also want nothing better than sequestering Kashmir from rest of India, in the name of helping their MUSLIM BRETHREN.
So what should rest of world do? Contain the fall out, ignore them & move on. One day ,
Either they will be enlightened. Or perish.
Shame!!! He is bringing disgrace to your country!! Wake up guys, Pakistan is much more than what this lunatic is expressing.
Extending Hafeez Saeed's logic, since minorities have been brutally oppressed in Pakistan, can Indians and Americans cross over to help them ? A terrorist preaches hatred, killings and Jihad and a country allows it ?? Can happen only in Pakistan.
What about Muslims oppressed brothers of Pakistan who don't have food, water, education???
Don't test our patience
What a pathetic person.
We will always stand with you kashmiri brothers shoulders to shoulders and sorrows with sorrows. Down and out with india
We call JUD chief to start a proper war, enough with this proxy war..we will liberate the world from JUD...
Official patronage of terror against India continues. Pakistan refuses to prosecute its strategic assets and expects India to take its phoney war against terror seriously. India will make it impossible for these people to freely operate with thin it's boundaries hence all these hate mongers will only cause mayhem in Pakistan. Time for sensible Pakistanis to wake up and ask its establishment to desist from promoting LeT and JuD as proxies against India.
And there is yet another fool which makes this once proud land question the intellect of some of its produce!
Whether Modi will be the "Gorbachev of India” is for time to tell. But Hafeez Saeed has definitely become the "Rasputin of Pakistan" by pushing Pakistan to a corner, where it shouldn't be going.
@Calcutta Man Ofcourse Dawn's ...
Emir Hafiz Saeed for President!
Thanks for confirming.... lets see if Govt of Pakistan endorses or stays conveniently silent
With these kind of men being at the helm of Pakistani political system, Pakistan is scripting its own decline.
There is no need to fan hatred. This guy can say whatever he wants to say.
Sure , concerned),you have to live for another 250 years to free kashmir.
Honestly I pity Pakistan and its people. Even with the advent of internet in the country, its people remain blissfully ignorant of its image outside its borders. Sadly it even remains ignorant of its own massive problems inside the country-widespread hunger, violence, suppression, terrorism, despotism, ignorance, poverty, anarchy, communalism, fanaticism you name it. Only North Koreans can match these self destructive people. Sometimes I wonder, despite our glorious, renowned and peaceful past how do we end up with neighbours like these.
DAWN why are you publishing JuD on front page. Majority of Pakistani reject their philosophy. They are RSS of Pakistan and we don't trust in either. We want to resolve issues including Kashmir with dialogue and peace. Please make sure to let world know that Hafiz Saeed Sahib does not represent Pakistan. He is slave of his distorted mentality. Pakistani people.
If he is giving so much importance to the UN resolution then since he should surrender to the International Court of Justice which termed him as a terrorist and let the law takes it course.
Hey Hafiz ...just wait for election to be over .. Don't play proxy war ... Let's end all this and play directly one to one war .@pakistan , stop supporting the international criminal this is going to really hurt you soon.....
With this man openly asking people to start a war with countries and supports terrorism, will the Pakistani govt be a mute spectator? What an irony one pakistani gets Nobel peace and the other spews hatred!
Today Pakistan lost $300m by violating the Aid terms approved by US congress yesterday only for not facilitating terrorist.
Having sheltered such men, Pakistan really do not need any outward enemies to destroy itself.
we must stop killing kashmiries to avoid such exploitation
Pakistan establishment is not scared of war but scared of peace. Note the aim to avenge 1971
@Balaji Bangolae Lakshmikanth Where is government of Pakistan. I am looking for it in every nook and corner of the world. Pakistan has been converted in to groups of selfish people. They are all either landlords, industrialists, Pakhtoons, Baloachs, Sindhis Punjabis, elite, fundamentalist, Barelavis, Wahabis, Salfis and so on and what not. Only poor religious minorities and handful of liberal do not have any say or voice. They get lynched, acidified and burnt, murdered in presence of police as silent spectator or active accomplice. If you happen to meet Government of Pakistan please do inform me I would like to see its face.
Why r Pakistanis quite.. I am sure pakistani people are sensible enough to not support any militants like Hafiz.... These guys are not humans they have their motives .
UN declared terrorist asking UN resolution on kashmir. Ban ki moon will surely get heart attack by hearing this.
If you Pakistan want permanent peace and there by prosperity in the region, live contented with what you have. If you want Kashmir from India, it would be day dream and an impossible propostion. If you do for political compulsion ( many who speak against India, gain votes).you are wasting your time and engegy and losing a good neighbour.
Look a terrorist speaking .. india has IT recruitment pakistan has hafiz saeed who recruits youngsters as terrorists in the garb of jud.Good that Pak is a nuclear country , otherwise it would have faced unilateral action for giving a free ride to a terror mastermind
As an Indian I have no problems with what Saeed says. We already know his position. India is always ready to defend it's territory and we will use our full might to crush jihadis brutally as it is our duty to do so. The problem with the position taken by Pakistan or its proxies is that it is a no win situation for them. It will not be possible for them to occupy or retain Indian territory because we will literally skewer them till they are finished as there will be no question of any ceasefire.
If India can send its troops to East Pakistan, it cannot say that Mujahideen cannot enter Kashmir to win freedom for the oppressed Muslim brothers. very well said...
@concerned_Cit You have to wait thousand years and say that again and again for thousand times .But forget if you want to live in peace. We know how to destroy millitants..
This is one arm of Pakistan Army. Then we have people who boast of Pak army. This is how they have survived for years not on their own strength but on many others like jud.
@concerned_Cit whatelse can you do, except struggling all your lives.
the main drawback of pakistan is the fools like this guy.
@concerned_Cit "The struggle for a free Kashmir will always continue." So r u implying that the "struggle" will not end meaning kashmir will always be a part of india ?
@gametheorist He is not part of Pakistan govt or political system. Don't loose sight of facts just because you hate him.
Generally speaking, Hafiz Saeed is Pakistan's version of Narendra Modi. Only difference is that Saeed has 0% chance of ever be elected as Prime Minister of Pakistan.
Now every pakistani knows why we don't want to engage in dialogue with pakistani diplomats .... I have pakistani friends who tell me that common man has nothing to do with this mess !! Guys this man was behind 26/11 and look at his statements in public just imagine his private conversations !! I love Pakistanis but not you politicians and army men who indulge in killing our people
@harsh What makes you think Pakistan govt wants to occupy Indian Territory? Kashmir is disputed territory and Pakistan official position has always been to let Kashmiris decide what they want to do.
Let Togaria, saeed, and others take part in conversations with like minded people on both side of borders to ignite the war phobia.
@Laddoo First and foremost it does not matter if I hate Hafiz Saeed. Pakistanis should decide whether they hate him or like him. Secondly, I am aware that he is not a part of the Government. But, the kind of political patronage and public support that he enjoys is not even matched by the people in power. Infact, several prominent Pakistanis openly speak against the Sharifs but most of them condone and endorse Hafiz Saaed's views and actions. The choice is for Pakistanis to make. I am a non-entity in that regard.
Simple economics.......when Dawn publishes, as front page news, such comments from a has-been character, the aim is only to draw hindustani readership. This......utlimately, improves their advertising revenue. Unfortunately, our Hindustani friends fall into this trap every time and get worked up like somene is going to cut their country in half (wait, isn't what they did in'71).
So a UN designate terrorists, declared a terrorist by the UN Security Council, is freely able to organize a congregation for two days? Pakistan obviously does not give a damn to world opinion!
The fact that there are no Pakistanis on this forum condemning his remarks shows the widespread support he enjoys there. I dont want any peace with Pakistan if they think civilians who died in Marriott Islamabad/Karachi are any different from the civilians who were killed in Oberoi on 26/11. From someone who works in Bombay and worked in the building right next to Oberoi. Coming back from office that day hearing gunshots all around and surrounded by blood changed me forever. And people ask why are we not talking to Pakistan. Like most people across both sides of the border, I want to live in peace but there shall be no peace till Pakistan supports these terrorists!!
Dawn, please publish this!
Hafiz and dowed ibrahim should care for their life . covet operation is waiting for them real soon.
With all his wisdom Mr Saeed forgets one thing, all those who infiltrate ultimately get killed. These so called Jehadis and their sympathisers have brought nothing but self destruction. To think that India will let Kashmir go and bring self destruction is unimaginable. Even the biggest detractor of India will not endorse that Kahsmir goes so does India. So the likes of Mr Hafiz realise that their wish will never get fulfilled. The only purpose this rhetoric can be collection of money in the name of jihad and also maintain importance in the eyes of gullible.
Now my neighbours are talking of peace. Look at what your hawkish PM and establishment did at LOC. Killed scores of civilians. So irresponsible.
By this reasoning, should we send troops to Baluchistan and other parts of Pakistan. And on top of it, Pakistan Govt. is supporting this openly and then wondering why the entire world thinks of it as a terrorist country. Afghanistan invited India to send troops. Who invited militants in Kashmir. Well may be Pakistan requires one more drone strike.
This man will take Pakistan to the stone age....10 years later Pakistani people will see where the world has gone...how developed our neighbors are and where we Pakistani brothers are...this man Mr. Hafiz Saeed will be remembered in Pakistan history as the utter blunder. Best luck Pakistan... India doesn't need missiles to target Pakistan...Mr. saeed is helping India in destroying a generation who could have been great doctors/engineers/scientists......
What can you expect from a terrorist and on top of that Pakistan Govt. extends railway service to support his cause. You've become jokers of the world. There is no writ, no conscience,no morals, is that what Pakistan is all about?
@Jay Indians have officially killed over 100 thousand kashmirs. Stop talking nonsense about peace i
@Sandeep Singh mr Singh you hypocrite. You Sikhs are fighting Indian government for independence too. You forgot
A sick society.
@Jamil Doe Terrorist is one who is terrorising. I see 100 thousand kashmiri Muslims killed by Indians my friend. The world dont care when Muslims are killed. It's upto the Muslims to defend their brothers and sisters. we need justice
Instead of talking about Kashmir, the Pakistan Govt. should concentrate on their country's developments. The common peopleof Pakistan should be made to realise that Kashmir has already been divided between India and Pakistan and both should enjoy the "Jannat" of Kashmir falling in their areas. I am really pained to know that on one side India is talking about development, the Pakistan is talking about making nuclear bombs. Just let your people realise that India and China are actively engaged in developments and China is helping India in the Bullet Train project. Are you not ashamed of yourself when your Pakistani Railway Engine is pulled by a horse? Why you want to stick to only one raga of Kashmir? Since both the countries have common customs and languages, the common people should be allowed to visit both the countries. I have been hearing since my childhood about Lahore, i.e. Jinne Lahore nahin vekhya o jamya hi nahin". But Due to these dirty politicians and terrorists, I will be deprived of visiting the Pakistan during my lifetime. So please make your people realise that for the better of Pakistan, the terrorism and terrorists have to be get rid off.
@kumar really
@Laddoo its not about love or hate - its about what action Pakistan takes against him, as he and his organization declared Terrorist by UN, it is the same UN of which resolution demand by Pakistan in Kashmir.
@krishan gopal Dear Krishan Gopal, I second you. This world would be better without these fanatics. Fanaticism has taken much toll in this world.
We Indians in Kashmir are realizing that, its only Pakistan who is creating problems for us. Making our lives miserable, and not India. For the last six decades, Pakistan had only harmed us in the name of helping us. Forget us!
I went through comments... no Pakistani has posted any. Do Pakistanis read news?
There are two types of terrorists in pakistan,good and bad terrorist.Hafiz saeed is good terrorist.
'Only principal amount will be paid to international donors' 'india has soldiers in Afghanistan' 'Islamic Union' ........it is not worrying that he talks rubbish, but that most Pakistanis believe this rubbish is what is more worrying
No one wants to know about Kashmir now. Even the latest high percentage voting proves that. This person wants us to take back to the old failed times, for his own relevance.
This was an event which took place at a national monument in Pakistan. It was an event where large amount of police personnel were deployed. It was an event which was advertised all across Pakistan; and it was an event by an organization which is proscribed not only by India but by the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and the United Nations under UN resolution 1267. Also, it was addressed by an individual who is designated as a terrorist under the same United Nations Security Council resolution i.e UN resolution 1267. If these sort of facilities are provided to a designated terrorist organization or a designated terrorist entity, reports have come that even train services were provided for this organization and entity. This is nothing short of mainstreaming a terrorist entity and a terrorist who is designated so all over the world. Obviously, it means this is blatant disregard for the global norms which are evolving against terrorism.
First tell this stupid to help their own countrymen instead worrying about kashmir
Mr @Jay do uknow about rss pls increase ur knowledge than comment
the question is why would rich arab oil states will join hands with pakistan whose ancestors were hindus .this guy wants to project pakistan as a big brother of muslim world.even saudi arabia dont want that pakistan should have nuked .
India cannot suppress Kashmiri and Naxalite Movement. Freedom will be snatched back one day.
There is some danger that a few Pakistanis will begin to believe in Saeed's myth about Gobachev and it is worth explaining why he rose to the top of Soviet Union. First, however, a small point. NS has been bringing up Kashmir everywhere because given the PTI protests he needs to shore up his right wing base and it is evident that people like Saeed are with him because of his speeches on Kashmir. As for Gorbachev, he was the Secretary of CP in a rather small village. Fortunately, for him, this village was the place where Brezenov, the Soviet leader used to spend his holidays. During the holiday period Gorbachev was always present at the villa to serve the leader. This personal service brought him to the attention of of the Soviet leader and led to his rapid promotion to the PB of the Soviet CP and then to the post of the Secretary. Soviet Union was then rotting inside. She could not even produce enough food for her people.Comparing an incompetent Soviet leader to an elected leader of the resurgent India who is now also the most liked leader in the world leader community, would be silly and would do some damage to Pakistan if her Government and people find any value in such a comparison.
How many so-called liberals and peace lovers of Pakistan are protesting against this man and his openly violent, poisonous ideology? Are there any editorials condemning Pakistan government's open support for this man? Is there any evidence at all that someone, anyone, in Pakistan is opposed to him and his JuD?
my pak friends pl. no doubt pak. is getting short term benefits by killing indians and say u won the game.it is your thinking. sir pl look at the balancesheet of your country since 1947. what you achieve. your country is running on foreign aids. nobody wants to play cricket with you.compare india . you are no were sir. see your economy.atleast see the you tube you will be come to know what pok think about you.what a big loss you are getting in coming days.gen mush had given big blow in kargil now hafis saiyed is giving.now those days are no far when pak. will be completely isolated. RULERS OF PAK ARE RESPONSIBLE AS they adopted to give shelter to international terririst.. result or the mirror is infront of you. no need to say. above 70% voting in kashmir have proved. people of pak has bow down their heads against extrimist and as a result they are suffering more.
@freedom First stand with your brothers in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, siriya, Palestinian, Afghanistan, mayanmer, many others. Why was not stand against USA on Afghanistan, Iraq. Also against Israel in Palestine. Even not stand against USA on drone attack continuing. Concentrate on education and progress. Compition with india such a lion economy, you will become poor to poorer
Hard to read the Pakistanis. One day they want to clean all the terrorists off its soil. Next day they applaud another terrorist as a hero.
@Gozmuz There is nothing right,then waere the wrong comes from .
@Hello Not India only, world telling
@Shah, Canada Ask your foreign office to acknowledge the same. India did it openly isn't it... not via some proxy
Terrorists are the backbone of the Pakistan Army as they could face the might of Indian Army.So these are cannon fodders.
@Shah, Canada You are pathetically wrong. India sent troops into East Pakistan because Pakistan declared war on India. Earlier it was sending incognito infiltrators to help Bengalis free themselves from Pakistan's YOKE as Pakistan sends militants into Kashmir to help the Kashmiris free themselves from the Indian YOKE.
Totally bewildered by obsession of many Pakistanis with Kashmiri right to self-determination. Perhaps, many in Pakistan are not aware most Kashmiri will not join Pakistan (or India) if given the option. But the same can be said of Balochistan, Tamil Nadu, Sindh, Assam too. In fact the whole of the sub continent needs right to self determination.
Without resolving Kashmir matter according to the UN charter Indian army would never be allowed to sleep in peace !
When the government mollycoddles such people ......... and at the same time talks of good relations with neighbours .......it does seem ridiculous.
Good.You all are on tracks to become next Somalia.
@Laddoo He is a terrorist and this declared by United Nation which you all refer to Kashmir resolution. First arrest this terrorist and respect US. Than ask fo UN resolution.
Palestine could not get freedom in last 50 years from very small country when they were getting support by lot many countries. and they want to get freed the kashmir, issue is POK, which is part of india
ha ha - not even 1 pakistani here... only indians :)
This paper should know that "Lashkar-e-Taiba" is terrorist organization declared by US and UN . This paper shows that founder of such organization still in Pakistan what type of measures you are taking to tackle terrorism ? This man is black sheep in our community or blot on name of our Pakistan. If we thrive such people we are very close to get Taliban like government who will go back again to stone ages from which we have progressed !
Should be kill our fellow Muslim from Kashmir for that ? Is it right to even kill Muslim by Muslim ? We already killed 10s of thousands including our own bibi bhutto shame on you !
Well he is correct . Israel and India need to be the targets instead of wasting energy and manpower in musl nations. Kashmir does need to be liberated and the Palistninans need all the help they can get.
Few days back Pak Army chief was talking about internal threat ..i believe he was talking about this person.
And you expect meaningful talks with india, while this person is openly giving anti india statements and terror. This means he has the support of both local civilians as well as the government.
@kumar Than how it is Jugular vein of Pakistan?
A banned militant addresses an open rally. Is provided police protection and on headlines of the main newspapers. His supporters are provided special trains by the govt of Pakistan .
I wonder why the world sees Pakistan as a terrorist state ? The non principled thinking of good and bad Taliban continues to amaze me .
Pakistan is not a failed state but a completely failed state
The Pakistan government encourage people like this, then they say they are are the victim of terrorism. Ek andha doosrey andhe ko rassta kya dikayega.
First liberate yourself then liberate Kashmir.
Just imagine: A political leader in a country is openly talking about sending armed militants (not their army) to a neighboring country to kill people (soldiers and civilians). Which country would accept such rotten remarks from their own leader? Only Pakistan.
If he has a guts he should have come out of Pakistan.dont worry Hafu you will meet the same fate like Osama Bin Laden. You are been pampered just because of government needs you once, your impotance fade away you will be next target of USA.
Very smart of him...." declaring that only the principal amount would be returned to the international lenders. " why don't do same with domestic lenders??? Why don't just stop taking loans from international lenders....
mr hafiz sayed never speaks a single word for development of pakistan,, this kind of hatred and war mongering speech will definately add more damages the image of pakistan in rest the of the world.
I think Mr.Modi won't get away with such words . Now is the action time . Divert all the Pakistan bound rivers . Let them beg for each drop of water . Stop all these non-sense things like train and bus service .And most importantly kick away all the Pakistani people visiting India for bread and butter . Send a notice to all MNCs to stop business in pakistan , otherwise stop business in India and be ready for war . This is the solution . We need another action like 1971 .
700 000 Indian troops..Get out from Kashmir..Why you are occupying us..learn the lesson or face the tune of occupation...
Congrats Pakistan, you will be responsible for whatever happens to you now.
This should be a tight slap on face of idiots who talk of peace between the two countries.
@Shah, Canada What abt. POK
Looks like the future economic development will be run by Jamaatud Dawah. It sure looks like it.
If this guy has support in pakistan then he has to go for election and win then send then do what he want to do and we will do what we want to do.
the snakes at the gates are waking up again...
@Gozmuz everything !!!
@kumar calm down sonny, they just want to be left alone by either of us.
Hafiz Sayed is on a leased life because US if want take him in a second. Should he remember that.
@Shashank Well said friend.I suggest India to escalate.Do not speak even to the DGMO, create a groundswell so that a few deaths are not hyped.This menace needs to be riddened at the earliest if national dreams can be pursued. .
@lalit sharma exactly....
Hafiz saeed has to be eliminated for avenging 26/11. he will soon pay for it.
@Abdul Latif since kashmiri are taking part in election in indian democracy against your call to boycott.then think where you are? Sooner or later pakistan one day like libya or Iraq,siriya
@kumar Akhand Bharat ..Sing jana gana mana for some time ..Does it mention kashmir ..no becoz Kashmir is a dispute and an occpied land by Indians ..So get your basics right then get your momentum with Modi wave .. One thing is for sure ..ask your modi to hold a rally in heart of srinagar and we want to see the numbers as were there in far flung areas.... Propaganda to downsize kashmiri struggle works for sometime not always , this your masters know better.
http://www.santabanta.com/jokes/15565/jihad-against-india/
It is high time Pakistan learn from their past mistakes. All these years Pakistan was facilitating the terrorists to fight against India. Now these terrorists are killing innocent Pakistanis. These days more Pakistanis are killed by these terrorists than Indians. If Pakistan want to grow like India and Pakistanis want to lead a good life, they should stop facilitating the terrorists, as terrorists are the biggest enemies of Islam.
We should make this man priminister
Emir, eh?
long live self determination of people of Jammu and Kashmir.
If Hindus can send armed personell in to a Muslim country then so can Muslims too who want to help their Muslim brethren against foreign occupation.
The foreign policy makers in Pakistan are ensuring that the country is declared as a 'terrorist state' sooner than later.
Kashmiris voting is a strong sign that they do not respect this man or anything he says. The final words of a insignificant man. We must stop sponsoring him.
Response from Indian side will be smart and economic to an extent that the government protecting Hafees...... will sell him to collect bounty
exported goods will return to your ports, investments will be reverted, all pakistani's working anywhere in the world will start loosing jobs slowly, pak stock exchange will rally hitting highest for for few days then will hit rock bottom as a result pakistan will get into propetual civil war...
brace up for all this in next 6-8months
@lalit sharma He has never run for any election in Pakistan and if he does he will probably get less than 1% vote. In the meantime you and your fellow Indians can keep day dreaming about what if scenarios.
@U K Choudhary the reason democracy not sustained due to indian aggression in kashmir.
an with great dignity.
@FromACivilizedCountry Facts please. Hafiz Saeed is not in govt and does not belong to any political party. You are welcome to keep hating him if you want. When you say "FromACivilizedCountry" do you mean India lol?
@indian less of everything in shining India. Kashmir is costing you your crumbling Union.
@sandeep thakur ...looks like we will be housing more indian overt soldiers and officers in Karachi jails along with fisherman and cooks. Thanks for telling us.
@Last Word only for India, who are far from reality. Rest of the world , don't take him as anything but freedom fighter of Kashmir.
@concerned_Cit free kashmir does not mean pakistan occupied kashmir
Readers comments provide a great example of freedom of press in Pakistan which I salute!
@Amir Indian Yes we read news too. When we see Indians crying in our area, we prefer to let them cry in solitude. Stop oppression in Kashmir and please stop polluting our cyber space. You are not wanted here.
@mimi sur bed agree
@ali khan What he is asking for is not justice, he is asking for more injustice... learn to spot the difference... Hafiz Saeed Should be in Prison.
@Jay 5 lakh people joined the rally,with government support.no remark about mindset of Pakistani people who are supporting hafeez strange!
@minni I am a Pakistani and i commented quite early...
There is a difference between terrorism and struggle for getting rid of cruel oppressor. Terrorists are those who kill indiscriminately but here in Kashmir the things are entirely different because Kashmiris have a genuine reason for armed struggle to liberate themselves from Indian occupation. Their freedom movement can,t be termed as terrorism.
@Ramesh are u nuts???? why tamilnadu and assam. just because some local policiticians play vote bank politics, u imagine that entire tamilnadu and assam want to secede .
Hafiz Saeed is a wanted terrorist by India and what he is doing in Pakistan is nothing but instigating people to take up arms and create lawlessness, He must be handed over to India.
Isn't he supposed to be the leader of a charitable organization? Why is he calling for arms and violence? He has always claimed that he had nothing to do with LeT.
Ever heard about freedom of speech? What he is saying is much more reasonable and enlightened than the archaic thoughts of your beloved PM on hinduvta....
Why are Indians commenting on DAWN?
@bharat . they are freedom fighter. but it is true that "British used to call freedom fighter terrorist."
My friend. Actually you mean that Pakistan want the Kashmir land or its people who are mostly muslim bros n sis. those are, you feel, suffering for livewood. You just think otherwise. If your bro or sis is living in good environment you get jealous. Your reaction is something like that. Sorry for your narrow mind.
@Gozmuz Everything
"declaring that only the principal amount would be returned to the international lenders"
How convenient.
@ali khan : I am sikh and i can openly say we love India and will die for India....99.999999% of sikhs are with India except for some foreign funded rouge elements....
Most people, both Indians & Pakistanis think that solving the Kashmir issue is going to usher in an era of peace. Do they really think that people like Hafiz Saed & his motely group will go back to their wives & children & start driving Taxis & work for a living ?
Give it a thought guys.
Pakistan government and its people are going to pay the price for this mans crusade.
@Jason Shush. Do you see any democracy, freedom or justice in Pakistan?
@Abdul Rehman - excellently summed-up. Hope all prudent Pakistanis understand and take action to prevent their future being wasted out.....
So speaks the international terrorist with a bounty on his head. When did this terrorist become an 'emir'?
People like Hafiz will be detrimental for Pakistan -- why can't he talks about the welfare of his own society? what has he done for the poor muslim brothers of Pakistan ? He is misleading the youth towards the path of destruction in the name of religion.Its good for the common Pakistanis and Govt to reject his ideas as people like him will push the country to the medieval era .
I'm quite appalled that the open minded and educated class of Pakistan doesn't speak out against this man. "Counselled Daish" to attack Israel? Seriously? This is quite worrying.
@Shah, Canada Please correct your general knowledge about history. Remember day of 26 September 1971 when indian prime minister Indira Gandhi raised issue of east Pakistan from which maximum of refusee entered in west bangal province. Same day Pakistan has launched operation changej against indian and Pakistani air force bombed indian airforce bases. Then india lanched massive attack against Pakistan. Don't blame to india and ready for surprise gift. Attractions is reciprocal form of repulsion.
Is there no one in Pakistan who talks to your youth about Science and Math and School and the importance of education? Atleast I never see Dawn reporting such stuff.
Whenever I think of world class Pakistani talent like Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan or Abida Parveen or Arif Lohar and so many, or our favourite boy Waseem Akram, I rue 1947. Idea of Saeed Anwar and Tendulkar opening together is mouthwatering to me.
And then enter Hafiz Saeed and I go like..good riddance...!!!
Mr saeed must first care for muslims living in Pakistan...
It seems he is just fighting hard for his own relevance
With the likes of Hafeez Saeed openly agitating against India and supporting terrorists to invade kashmir; how does Pakistan expect India to be friendly with it? The fact that this man is free and freely supporting terrorism is what makes Pakistan a pariah nation in the world.
@ali khan whose people are taking with arms and gun that are not innocent civilian . Pakistan reconize them as a freedom fighter who are killing our army personal and police force . India and Pakistan should start fresh cold war against each other . I think that Pakistan is fighting his war from 1948 but india should start cold war and give strong retaliation and let teach the Pakistani establishment.
@concerned_Cit counties your struggle for Kashmir . India will give positive responce to you and Indian army capable to handle problem of terrorism in Kashmir . Prime minister will give full authority of indian army give the positive responce then Pakistan will crying on UN plateform .
I agree with EVERYTHING said by the social worker. We must stand 100% behind Kashmir and continue to support them. But the 'daish' comment was out of line. Daish should be destroyed, not doing anybody's bidding. They are agents of the west, most arent even Syrian or Iraqi.
@Sunil the only reason Kashmiris voted was to keep BJP of india out - which they are doing
@freedom but brother Kashmiris don't want you to stabd with them they are voting and saying they want to be with India. We need to focus of occupied Balochistan and the human rights violations we are committed there.
@sandeep thakur First protect against not so covert operations like 26/11 soap opera and then talk about waging covert operations. Funny people you are. Come send your coverts, so we can get some good old target practice.
@A shah but he is fighting for freedom of his nation- Kashmir.
@Sunil We are entering day before yesterday into,have you know about it?
@Sam Pakistan has ceased to be a state...it is an ENTITY fast imploding,nothing more?
It is useless of Indians to expect it to modernize and be a source of good business opportunities?:):)
Would be interesting to watch as to exactly how it implodes? Not a whisper or iota of sanity left,I think?:)
@Shah You are true Muslim. Come to Kashmir and please free it. We are waiting for you. LOL...
@Aaditya hahaha...nice comment...
So just a couple of days after the Congress approves aid to Pakistan, Saeed gives a speech inciting people to joing jihad against US & our allies? Is this where my hard earned tax $$ are going? Where's the accountability??
the status quo politics of the inda is welcoming such elements.Try plebiscite and you will get rid of pain. yes UN is failed to safeguard muslims rights.Yes we muslims of pakistan are idealist and world has not yet seen our glory of interest free system : we cannot inspire the world with out showing our peaceful picture.
Nawaz Shareef has given up on having good relationship with India indicated from nis recent rhetoric in Newyork. Khakisx are in full control of Pakistan foreign policy, of course rigid attitude of BJP does not help either. of course these rats get support from the establishment. I am a 63 year old Pakistani listening to this nonsence for the last 63 years. I am absolutly sick of this kind of talk and these people.
@ali khan
Just like Balochs and Sindhs are fighting for independence, right?
Panic..panic. 70% poll turnout is having its effect.
With support from Raiwind, such people will continue to preach hatred, and incite violence.
@Zak lol
@Gurpreet Singh and we will do that too
why my indian friends are forgetting Ball Takhrey and his successors.Shiv Sena.....true face of Hindu India
@Koshur Jana Gana Mana was a poem written in 1914. How exactly do you interpret omission of Kashmir as an acknowledgment of dispute between Pakistan and India.
It does refer o Sind, so according to you Sind should be part of India?
@sandeep thakur Nothing can be funnier than this.Lolz
another nail in dying pakistan coffin & then we say why no investment comes here.
Hafiz for president
Hollow words
@Jay : I am not sure why RSS is being brought here. RSS may have many faults, it is not that uncouth and doesn't support violence of any sort. These lunatics though do benefit right-wing (RSS, VHP etc.) parties in India, that way they are harming India as well. Harm being caused to Pakistan is enormous. Wake-up bros in Pakistan, if you don't like such organizations being patronized by the government, then stand up and be counted.
Sadly Pakistanis fail to realise that it is people like HS who first get support to breed militants locally and later loose control or worse, change their target to local population leading to mass terrorism and fear in Pakistan. Recent local surveys show the average peace-loving Pakistani living in a state of morbid fear. Why cant the citizens of Pakistan see this connection? In India at least such hatemongers are not given such platforms and while you may see it otherwise, the average Indian hates such people no matter which religion they belong to. Hope better sense prevails in Pakistan
@SDN Has Bal Thakerey or anyone else in India sent terrorists to Pakistan? The state they belong to, is not even close to Pakistan. Anyways, the Indian voters have made the Shiv Sena irrelevant today. Except in few pockets in Maharashtra, they are no where to be seen. This Hafiz Saeed is an international terrorist to the point terrorists hijacked a plane to get him back. And he has the authority to issue public statements. Which other country would let a terrorist do that?
If someone thinks Kashmir can be separated from India by sheer force He/She/it is living in fools paradise.. It can not happen, all that will happen is destruction.
@freedom LOL right now it is down and out with Pakistan. Wonder if you will survive 2015. btw have you collected enough money to pay back IMF loan interest ?
@Gurpreet Singh NO. Even 250,000 years is also not sufficient
@Taimur Khan Doesnt matter Mr.Khan. When you guys are officially paying for our movies and tv shows, we can also do a small favour to your media..let it also make some money.