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An Egyptian Muslim pilgrim cries as he prays at sunrise at Mount Arafat.—AP Photo
An Egyptian Muslim pilgrim cries as he prays at sunrise at Mount Arafat.—AP Photo
A Muslim pilgrim prays on top of Mount Arafat, near the holy city of Mecca, ahead of the hajj main ritual, on October 14, 2013. —AFP Photo
A Muslim pilgrim prays on top of Mount Arafat, near the holy city of Mecca, ahead of the hajj main ritual, on October 14, 2013. —AFP Photo
A Muslim pilgrim reads the holy Quran as he prays on top of Mount Arafat, near the holy city of Mecca. —AFP Photo
A Muslim pilgrim reads the holy Quran as he prays on top of Mount Arafat, near the holy city of Mecca. —AFP Photo
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MOUNT ARAFAT: Saudi Arabia’s top religious figure urged Muslims on Monday to avoid divisions, chaos and sectarianism, without explicitly speaking of the turmoil unleashed by the Arab Spring.

Hell is the final abode for those who spill the blood of an innocent human, said Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh, the Grand Mufti of the Ka'aba.

“Islam does not allow terrorism at any cost. Islam condemns all violence and terrorism plaguing the world today. Muslims should demonstrate a love for peace and unity,” he said.

The Grand Mufti recalled the Islamic prohibition of killing and aggression, while insisting there is “no salvation or happiness for the Muslim nation without adhering to the teachings of the religion.”

The top cleric also urged Muslims to avoid divisions, chaos and sectarianism.

“Your nation is a trust with you. You must safeguard its security, stability and resources,” he said in his address to the Muslim world. “You should know that you are targeted by your enemy... who wants to spread chaos among you ... It's time to confront this.”

Officials said around 1.5 million pilgrims descended on the site, where they offered prayers and listen to the annual sermon from the Saudi top cleric.

Helicopters hovered overhead and thousands of troops stood guard to organise roads flooded by men, women and children streaming towards Mount Arafat.

The top cleric said Muslims throughout the world were going through a difficult time, and stressed that the global economic crisis could be controlled if the Islamic economic system was adopted. “Muslims should support the community by investing in their businesses,” he urged.

Chanting “Labaik Allahuma Labaik” (I am responding to your call, God), many of them camped in small colourful tents and took shelter under trees to escape temperatures of around 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit). Special sprinklers were also helping cool the pilgrims.

The pilgrims were arriving at Arafat from nearby Mina where most of them spent the night following the traditions of the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) who performed the rituals 14 centuries ago.

They had moved to Mina on Sunday from the holy city of Mecca, home to the Grand Mosque, Islam’s holiest place of worship which houses the Ka’aba towards which all Muslims pray daily five times.

On reaching Arafat, they crowded onto the hill and the vast plain surrounding it to pray until sunset, when they are due to set off for nearby Muzdalifah.

“I will pray the whole day for God to improve the situation for Muslims worldwide and an end to disputes and bloodshed in Arab countries,” 61-year-old Algerian pensioner Saeed Dherari said.

Sitting at the side of an Arafat road, Syrian Ahmad al-Khader prayed for oppressed Syrians to be victorious. “I hope that God will grace all Muslims with security and stability,” said 75-year-old Khader who hails from the southern province of Daraa.

“The regime is tyrannical and I pray for God to help the oppressed people,” he said.

Egyptian Ahmad Ali, who performed Haj for the first time, prayed for peace in his country, where hundreds were killed in recent months in fighting between security forces and Islamist supporters of ousted president Mohamed Morsi.

In Muzdalifa, pilgrims will spend the night before moving on in the morning to start the ritual of symbolically stoning the devil.

The hajj, which officially ends on Friday, is one of the five pillars of Islam that every capable Muslim must perform at least once.

Numbers sharply down

Numbers are sharply down from last year, due to fears linked to the (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) MERS virus and to multi-billion-dollar expansion work at the Grand Mosque to almost double its capacity to around 2.2 million worshippers.

Governor of Mecca province and head of the central hajj committee Prince Khaled al-Faisal said 1.38 million pilgrims had arrived from outside of the kingdom while only 117,000 hajj permits were issued for domestic pilgrims.

This puts the number of pilgrims this year at almost 1.5 million, less than half of last year’s 3.2 million after Riyadh slashed hajj quotas.

Prince Khaled told the official SPA news agency late Sunday that authorities had turned back 70,000 nationals and expatriates for not carrying legal permits and had arrested 38,000 others for performing the hajj without a permit.

Authorities had also seized as many as 138,000 vehicles for violating the hajj rules and its owners will be penalised, the prince said.

Saudi health authorities have stressed that no cases of the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) virus has been detected so far this pilgrimage. The disease has killed 60 people worldwide, 51 of them in Saudi Arabia itself.


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Indian
Oct 14, 2013 03:56pm

There will be peace when they will pray not only for muslims but for all living beings on this earth.

A Shah
Oct 14, 2013 04:03pm

Has anyone told the muslims?

sahxy
Oct 14, 2013 04:33pm

The problem is to explain to us non Muslims, who from the Islamic point of view is innocent and does not deserve to be killed and who is guilty and therefore deserves to be killed

Dave Kiane
Oct 14, 2013 05:05pm

If the Grand Mufti had exhorted upon the Muslims to respect ALL religions, and pray for ALL humanity regardless of their faith (instead of praying just for Muslims), perhaps the world will become a better place. Respect for all religions is a new idea for Muslims who have traditionally reserved deep hatred for non-Muslims. Given that such hatred has spawned the worst terrorism in the world, it may be the right time to introduce this new idea of respect for all. Is the Grand Mufti up to such a noble task?

Ragu
Oct 14, 2013 05:54pm

So pleased to hear this at the holy city by a holy man. Yet so much violence since conveniently the word 'terrorism' itself is interpreted in a thousand ways. Rooting violence out seems like a great objective yet so far away.

Najamuddin A Ahmad
Oct 14, 2013 06:22pm

Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al- Sheikh should preach His Majesty King of Saudi Arabia, who has been financing different terrorist groups in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria and Lebenon since 1979. Charity begins at home.

mba
Oct 14, 2013 06:30pm

Late but correct. The Grad Mufti and other Muslim scholars should have clarified the religious position regarding terrorism years ago. Now I hope, the wise worlds would not disappear like foot prints in sand. The "Islamic" governments all over the world should react consequently after such clear words from such a qualilied authority in Islamic matters.

Tausif
Oct 14, 2013 06:39pm

Islam strictly forbids terrorism! No doubt:-) But, does it allow slavery at the hands of local Sheikhs/elites and foreign occupation forces? I wish the GRAND Mufti could also tell his rich Arab Sheikhs to at least stop treating their servants from other Muslim countries as SLAVES! The Mufti has no credibility whatsoever! He was unable to resolve even the crisis between the Musharraf's government and the Lal Masjid.

Rashid Sultan
Oct 14, 2013 07:12pm

Why just Islam that forbids terrorism - everyone except the brainwashed terrorists, their minders, supporters and financiers forbid all acts of terrorism! It is just that most terrorists of late have been from groups that were born into families who professed Islam as their faith and had Arabic names widely used by followers of Islam. Sad really as majority of human beings wish to live in peace with one another.

Agha Ata
Oct 14, 2013 07:26pm

Now each Muslim country should publicize this information with reference to the grand Mufti's Haj sermon (That Islam strictly forbids terrorism) in a very effective way!

Abhishek Tomar
Oct 14, 2013 07:54pm

Problem.............because only Muslims think so

Z N
Oct 14, 2013 08:10pm

@Indian: Someone always has to put his or her two-cents into something good to spoil it. Just because someone prays for their own people who are being oppressed does not mean that they don't also pray for everyone at large. If the article said Muslims are praying for everyone during the Hajj, you would probably find something else to criticize anyways. Haters gonna hate.

Solomon2
Oct 14, 2013 08:13pm

This sounds less like a condemnation of terrorism and more like an endorsement. Yes, terrorism is forbidden BUT:

  • Islam condemns all violence
  • Muslims should demonstrate a love for peace and unity
  • Islam prohibits killing and aggression
  • Muslims are to avoid divisions, chaos and sectarianism
  • Muslims are targeted by enemies and they should be confronted.

So the ultimate message is that if you are being plagued by terrorists you are not to employ violence to defend yourselves against them but join in their cause against "enemies" and end their terrorism against you that way.

RK
Oct 14, 2013 08:38pm

So why not issue a fatwa against the terrorism and their proponents?

Imran B
Oct 14, 2013 09:01pm

Wonder how many Urdu newspapers highlighted this message from the Hajj sermon. Nobody should take it upon themselves (as an individual or a group) to enforce an ideology by force. Innocence and guilt is also to be judged by the established court system that is respectful of all belief systems and not just the one of the majority.

Patrick
Oct 14, 2013 08:59pm

The Grand Mufti tells Muslims not to get involved in terrorism He would be better off telling Muslims not to hate other religions That would be a great start for Islam

Confused
Oct 14, 2013 09:23pm

" 14 centuries ago " Am I reading wrong history some where or this is a honest mistake . Cos when people distort history knowingly it causes huge problems .

S. Tanwir Hasan
Oct 14, 2013 09:25pm

@Indian: I think on the same lines being Muslim that when Christian church prays for all humanity why not Muslim Grand Mufti prays for whole mankind (Muslims and non-Muslims included) in their sermons. This will inculcate good response among Non-Muslims. The problem is that Muslims delude themselves being oppressed and others as their oppressors or enemies. If they start considering themselves as powerful as other nations by way of taking share and investing in knowledge, science and technology they will continue to remain troubled and unpalatable to others.

Vicky
Oct 14, 2013 09:33pm

@Indian: Know that I, a Muslim, generally pray for everyone. Just a couple of months back, I stayed up at nights and prayed for my Hindu friend because she was in a little trouble.

Asim Iqbal
Oct 14, 2013 09:50pm

@sahxy: From Islamic point of view those who are not involved in the killing of innocent people are innocent and does not deserve to be killed and those who are involved in the killing of innocent people are not innocent and deserve capital punishment...

avjed bani
Oct 14, 2013 09:57pm

@Indian: Convert

willy
Oct 14, 2013 10:02pm

@Indian: When all religious people can understand tolerance for eachother, then we have a great leap forward.

Rizwan
Oct 14, 2013 10:05pm

I hope Taliban take a note. Killing one person (not Muslim only) is like killing all Humanity.

muhibbewatan
Oct 14, 2013 10:46pm

Very aptly expressed by the Grand Mufti in his Khutba, which, I am sure, will be viewed by the Ummah as a crucial message in the present situation. May Allah (SWT) grant each one of us the enlightenment to follow the true Islamic tenets and teachings in the true spirit (niyyat) for the ultimate benefit of all Muslims, wherever they may be. AAMEEN!

muhibbewatan
Oct 14, 2013 10:40pm

Very aptly expressed by the Grand Mufti in his Khutba, which, I am sure, will be viewed by the Ummah as a crucial message in the present situation. May Allah (SWT) grant each one of us the enlightenment to follow the true Islamic tenets and teachings in the true spirit (niyyat) for the ultimate benefit of all Muslims, wherever they may be. AAMEEN!

muhibbewatan
Oct 14, 2013 10:46pm

@Dave Kiane: This goes for all critics (including Mr. Indian) that charity begins "AT HOME", meaning prayers for the Muslim Ummah is primary and the exhortation is quite appropriate. When Muslims behave in the manner prescribed by Islam, it will automatically include peace, respect and pluralism vis-a-vis all other religions. So, let's be pragmatic (and not myopic) about this matter and not make an issue out of it.

Tamilselvan
Oct 14, 2013 11:04pm

Wish Grand Mufti makes a trip to the muslim world especially to Pakistan and Afganistan and gives the same sermon. it will help humanity

Qaiser Bakhtiari
Oct 14, 2013 11:01pm

@Dave Kiane: I am sorry Dave, but all this was already in Quran. Taliban who do terrorism in the name of Islam dont really care about Islam or anything that Quran has to say. Especially Pakistanis are very ignorant about Quran. They would rather blame a 15 yo girl,Malala than stand up to Taliban.

Dr. Rahman
Oct 14, 2013 11:15pm

@Dave Kiane: Grand Mufti is addressing the current prevailing situation in the world. Holy Quran clearly mentions in several verses, that one must respect all religions. So Dave, respect is already mentioned. I needed to mention this to you.

pathanoo
Oct 14, 2013 11:18pm

i appreciate what the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia said about terrorists and terrorism and Islam's injunction against them. What I fail to understand though is why did he NOT declare a FATWA against these terrorists and declare them apostates and asked ALL MUSLIMS to shun them. It is these HALF MEASURES that the Non-Muslim world has come to see as duplicitous. When it is to their advantage or convenient, the same Mufti and the likes of him throw FATWAS at the drop of a hat. This half-hearted condemnations and how the Great Islam forbids these actions does NOT cut it any more. And, how about tolerance, respecting other religions and harmony? Never hear that from ANY MUSLIM SCHOLAR.

Agha Ata
Oct 14, 2013 11:22pm

@Dave Kiane: I hope so, but it all depends on how people interpret Grand Mufti's words.

Sabahat
Oct 15, 2013 12:09am

@Dave Kiane: I wonder where you got your information that: " Respect for all religions is a new idea for Muslims who have traditionally reserved deep hatred for non-Muslims"

Muslims ruled the present day arab world for atleast 1300 years and still you find Jews and Christians exist in those parts of the world. And muslim ruled India for atleast 700 years and yet your find muslims in minority there. Had your comment be true you would not find any non-muslims in those part of world. India alone has atleast 500 million NON-MUSLIMS. This clear prove your comment completely wrong.

Muslims also ruled Spain for atleast 600 years up until 15th century and present day you will NOT FIND any native muslims in Spain, only immigrant. Because all those muslims were either killed or FORCEFULLY CONVERTED to CHRISTIANITY.

Jews had never lived in peace except under muslim land. Holocaust is one example on the other hand you still find jews in arab world after 1300-1400 years and you will NOT find one example like that of Holocaust.

Looks like you know nothing about history and just fooled by media. Wake up my friend admit the truth. Muslims have build churches and temples for minorities, protected the minority throughout history.

DEEPTHI
Oct 15, 2013 12:14am

Then y r maxium terrorist Muslims? Have they questioned themselves.......

Sabahat
Oct 15, 2013 12:14am

@Indian: My friend there would be peace when rulers take examples from Prophet Muhammad, Caliph Umar bin Khattab, Salahuddin Ayubi.

Read their conquest and forgiveness of enemies. e.g.: 1. Prophet Muhammad forgave people who tortured him and killed his relatives and fellow muslims after he was Victorious. 2. Umar bin Khattab - when entered Jerusalam as a conquerer, he didn't destroy church. One third of world was under his rule and he could be approach directly by any ordinary man. 3. Salahuddin Ayubi - when conquered Jerusalam after it fallen back to Christain and Christians murdered pretty all muslims. Salahuddin gave ransom to free captured enemy soldiers from HIS POCKET and allowed then to go back to Europe.

Where do you find those examples in history of mankind.

Peace will be when people follow these great ruler example. And stop hypocrisy, torture and oppression like in Palestine, Kashmir, Burma. And root of the cause seems like is Greed that is coming from capitalism.

Gerry D'Cunha
Oct 15, 2013 12:21am

has this message gone to the high command of the talibans 'islam strictly forbids terrorism' will they follow this message?

Rao
Oct 15, 2013 01:03am

@Ragu: These exhortations to refrain from violence came a big late. But then it is better late than not ! Hope it will have some effects on bad guys.

Ahmed
Oct 15, 2013 01:07am

The very fact that someone has to remind muslims at time of hajj that Islam forbids terrorism is an indicator of the depths of jehaliyat that is prevalent in muslim majority countries today.

Ahmed
Oct 15, 2013 01:08am

@Dave Kiane: That is a bridge too far for the mufti.

Waqar Rasool
Oct 15, 2013 01:21am

@Dave Kiane: Dave Islam does not stand just for the muslims but is sent for Allah for the whole human kind. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and all the prophets of Allah including jesus ( Eesa) a.s and moses (Moosa) a.s stood among the non believers of their time and prayed for the forgiveness of their sins and their guidance.. Islam was their religion back then and Islam till date stands for all humankind. We always pray for the guidance of non believers and for the mercy of Allah for the whole human kind. May Allah guide you towards the right path. Ameen

Waqar Rasool
Oct 15, 2013 01:22am

@A Shah: Read the Quran, no body needs to be told what is right and what is wrong. just read the word of God.

Salman
Oct 15, 2013 01:38am

Why did the same mufti ordered to destroy non muslim's worship place in Arabian Peninsula?

Snacks
Oct 15, 2013 02:09am

Did anyone translate the sermon in Pashto ?

Prapur
Oct 15, 2013 02:15am

Does any non-Muslim believe him or any Muslim follow his advice and prayer?

Ali Vaqar Awan
Oct 15, 2013 03:15am

Nice step taken by Grand Mufti and hope so the muslims follow it and practically adopt it. Grand Mufti should play active role in promoting inter-faith harmony. We do not have any right to disgrace any religion in the world. Thier purpose is to preach peace and harmony.

human55
Oct 15, 2013 03:49am

@sahxy: Would you accept the killing of someone just because Islam declares him worthy of killing?

Guy
Oct 15, 2013 05:16am

Than please tell your king and colleague stop funding those people.

Nazim
Oct 15, 2013 05:41am

Grand Mufti sahib please advise you Saudi Government to follow true sprit of Islam. Treat foreign workers in kingdom humanly, give them equal rights so long they stay in Saudi Arabia. Please use your immense wealth to save millions of people in Africa from hunger and death. If you are sincere towards Ummah use your wealth for the advancement of literacy and education in Islamic countries, this will greatly curb terrorism.

Mo
Oct 15, 2013 06:10am

@Dave Kiane:

Dave you said,

Mo
Oct 15, 2013 06:18am

@sahxy: It

Mo
Oct 15, 2013 06:20am

I wish this could go out to all Muslim and Non Muslims, a great message from the Mufti, the world needs to understand Islam and peace in the world is a great need. Eid Mubarak!

Shah
Oct 15, 2013 06:25am

Islam forbids all that, but everyone falls short of condemning Taliban, cause them nut heads knows no boundaries when it comes to violence. If Honourable Grand Mufti confirms that any type of violence is forbidden in Islam than there should be a fatwa against Taliban don't you think?

P.R.Koduri
Oct 15, 2013 07:15am

Extraordinary and absolutely impressive Crown Management given that the pilgrims are from across the World.

Raza
Oct 15, 2013 07:18am

@Indian: There is a majority amongst Muslims ( count me in those) who pray for every human being regardless of religion, caste and creed. Please don't paint all Muslims by the sayings of the extremists within our ranks. By the way, these extremists belong in all cultures and religions.

I do make a distinction between good and evil people though:)

Blessings to you my friend as one human being to another and may peace prevail over us all!!!!

Jalaluddin S. Hussain
Oct 15, 2013 07:21am

As a Canadian-Pakistani I respect all religions and belief systems and pray for the welfare of the whole humanity. May the evil forces be defeated and the good triumphs!

DHARMARAJAN
Oct 15, 2013 07:44am

Nothing is permanent including religion.

Still confused
Oct 15, 2013 08:08am

The number 14 centuries does not add up ....!! Simple . Why are we trying to hide the facts here . Come on be realistic and post this ..! For the sake of kids who may want the truth .

Siddhu
Oct 15, 2013 09:27am

Why do Muslims pray only for Muslims? Why doesn't any top Muslim cleric calls for respect and tolerance for all religions?

MH
Oct 15, 2013 10:26am

"Hell is the final abode for those who spill the blood of an innocent human"

Yet the country is the epicenter of terrorism using its petro-dollar.

Ali
Oct 15, 2013 10:33am

People behind all the terrorism in the world are not Muslims anyway. Just the media shows it in that way, so Muslim gets the blame and feel bad about them selves. I hope all the big weapon making countries think broadly and put an end to all this mess. they are not only killing humen race but also destroying the earth & that's real terrorism.

Ashraf
Oct 15, 2013 10:35am

@Dave Kiane: As a muslim,can't agree more with you. Humanity comes first in Islam. God is 'Rabul Alemeen'. Our Prophet is 'Rehmatul lil Alemeen'. Whoever tries to segregate muslims from the rest of humanity is doing disservice to both Islam and humanity.

khan
Oct 15, 2013 12:08pm

As far as praying for non-muslims is concerned...you can only Pray that Allah give them "Hidayaht"....Not for anything else it is prohibited in Islam...

Capri of Bangalore
Oct 15, 2013 12:20pm

@Dave Kiane: Absolutely well said , Dave kiane. Agree with every word. The day the Muslims of the world stop regarding themselves as people of the most Perfect religion and that other faiths are inferior, have no respect and are intolerant of them and use of violence as a means to prove their superiority, out of their systems, the world would automatically be a better place to live in. A huge introspection and attitudinal change among the muslims is called for.

faizan
Oct 15, 2013 12:27pm

@Dave Kiane:

You certainly did not get a chance to study any sorts of history during your school days. Despite you being unable to get a chance at good schooling, had you done a bit of research before making such a comment, you would have found out that this "new idea" was introduced more than 1400 years ago by Islam itself. I remember how christians and jews have "RESPECTED" their religions over the centuries and they "still do". May be you would want to educate yourself before you make irrelevant, misrepresented statements.

hanniel
Oct 15, 2013 12:35pm

@Dave Kiane: Hardly the worst acts of terrorism in the world. Look at the first 9/11 the overthrow of chile's government. Look at the invasion of honduras in 1950. Or maybe the overthrow of the iranian shah in 1953. Or the contra wars in Nicaragua or the invasion of vietnam, laos and cambodia. Or maybe the 91 invasion of iraq and the subsequent trade sanctions that killed an estimated 1.5 million children. Or maybe hiroshima and nagasaki. They all have one thing in common, all are initiated if not performed by a secular American government.

Krishna Uppaloju
Oct 15, 2013 01:10pm

First of all muslims should stop hating non-muslims because Allah never hates non-muslims, muslims should pray for all not just for muslims because for Allah everybody is equal, and the most important thing for mulisms is first try to be human, then think of Islam which teaches the most purest form of humanity...

Mariam
Oct 15, 2013 02:47pm

What is the difference between 'forbid' and 'strictly forbid'?

They have been praying for 1400 years; things seem to only get worse for muslims with each passing year.

Irfan
Oct 15, 2013 03:02pm

He is not Grand Mufti of Kaaba. Please report correctly

ROHIT PANDEY
Oct 15, 2013 03:04pm

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I think this Mufti should have told Muslims to give up the hatred and intolerance displayed by Muslim to ALL FAITHS..there is bound to be a reaction to Muslims' attitude and you see that in Muslim-non Muslim conflicts the world over-Chechnya,Xinjiang,Kashmir,Philippines, MyanmarThailand,Nigeria,Malaysia..where Muslim minorities are in conflict with non Muslims.

Of course,there is the Sunni-Shia divide among the Muslims that is taking its toll in Syria iraq Pakistan.

The Arabs pushed through a resolution in the UN General Assembly that said Zionism is on par with racism.

Maybe it is time for non Muslim countries to push through a resolution that some Islamic beliefs about superiority of Islam,the poor treatment of minorities in Muslim countries,the inherent misogyny believed in and promoted by Islamic governments is not acceptable and is on par with racism and an ideology that promotes hatred and conflict.??

Martin
Oct 15, 2013 03:28pm

This Mufti is a 100 years too early with this statement ;) (sarcasm)

Seriously now, did this Mufti just wake up from a 20 yr coma? The most people suffering from terrorism are muslims at the hands of either militants or those nonmuslims who use terrorism as an excuse to cause sufferings - China, Russia, America.

This Mufti is useless and his lifelong project will be to keep women from driving instead of addressing real problems like corruption and socioeconomic injustice throughout the muslim world.

Vish1
Oct 15, 2013 03:32pm

@Indian: Words from old Indian texts: "Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah" is understood only by those who have achieved the highest level of spiritualism...

ag
Oct 15, 2013 05:05pm

@RK: There have been countless official fatwas against terrorism - even before 9/11 - hardly stuff that CNN report. with prisons and rehab centres especially for these hardcore jihadis.

Silajit
Oct 15, 2013 06:59pm

As long as people blindly listen to another human being without using their brains, (whether positive like the mufti says or negative like Hafiz Saeed or the Taliban), this will just go back and forth. This happens for all organized religion - not just Islam. The amount of power that a person who is no more than a priest with normal human failings wields once he gets behind that lectern is easily politicized. This is even more potent in a country with a state religion because you are handing over the keys of power to someone else.

pathanoo
Oct 15, 2013 07:11pm

@Sabahat: Actually you have a very distorted and biased view of history. India has a majority Non-Muslim population because there were no Muslims in India till the 9th or 10th century. The earlier Muslim invaders came, plundered, butchered and left. The later invaders saw India as a prosperous land and stayed, Had they not been a miniscule minority of invaders, the Non-Muslims would have suffered as they have all over the world under Muslim majorities. CAN YOU IDENTIFY ANY, NAME JUST ONE, MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY WHERE NON-MUSLIMS ENJOY EQUAL RIGHTS? CAN YOU IDENTIFY ONE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY WHERE THE NON-MUSLIMS HAVE NOT DECREASED IN NUMBERS? HOW MANY JEWS ARE LEFT IN SAUDI ARABIA? JEWS WERE ABUNDANT IN SAUDI ARABIA BEFORE ISLAM CAME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS THERE? HOW MANY JEWS LEFT IN ANY MUSLIM DOMINATED COUNTRY? JUST SAYING SOME THING DOES NOT BECOME THE TRUTH. MUSLIM RULES ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH CRUELTY AND OPPRESSION. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO NAME ONE COUNTRY WHERE MUSLIMS BUILT CHURCHES?

unbelievable
Oct 15, 2013 07:17pm

Should be required reading by ever Imam and published in every Mosque and Madrassas.

John
Oct 15, 2013 08:00pm

Islam may not teach terrorism but it also does not teach to love non-muslims. I believe both are same. Terror looks bad however, hate is not visible.

BKH
Oct 15, 2013 08:14pm

Preach it to the long bearded militant talibans and Muslim Clerics of Pakistan what Islam teaches.

Karachi Wala
Oct 15, 2013 08:16pm

On the other hand, I am not quite sure how this message of peace from Grand Mufti would work out while Saudi Kingdom is actively busy promoting extremist ideology throughout Muslim world and beyond.

Mr.T
Oct 15, 2013 08:26pm

In the end doctors say pray now it's in god hand we can't do anything. i don't know which is pakistan is ???

Indian
Oct 15, 2013 09:21pm

@Sabahat: Thanks for your comment. My statement was not only for muslims. Apology if you interpreted that way. It was for entire mankind. We need rise above religion, cast, gender nation and everything else that seperates two humans. Love, affection for each other is what's needed in today's time.

Indian
Oct 15, 2013 09:25pm

@willy: Yes, that's what I meant.

Indian
Oct 15, 2013 09:26pm

@avjed bani: Sorry, I did not get you.

Indian
Oct 15, 2013 09:27pm

@Vicky: I appreciate what you did. I did not meant what I said just for Muslims. It's for everyone. Sorry, if you got it wrong

Indian
Oct 15, 2013 09:34pm

@Z N: Nope, please do not misunderstand me. I did not meant it only for Muslims. It was for everyone and it starts with me first.

chand
Oct 15, 2013 09:42pm

thulluka kolli
Oct 15, 2013 11:43pm

Mr Grand Mufti - I'm sure all those present heard your sermon. Will they listen to it though? If they had, Islam may not have reached the status of most hated religion in the world.

Saad(DXB)
Oct 16, 2013 12:10am

Here we go again.... Indians back to their favourite hobby... Pakistan and/ or Islam Bashing.. and they wonder why Muslims of India decided to go for a separate homeland for Muslims. By the way, what happened to the enquiry on Modi approved killing of 2000 Muslims in Gujarat a decade ago?

santosh.gore11@gmail.com
Oct 16, 2013 04:43pm

@Saad(DXB): Muslims get separate homeland that is pakistan. But why all muslims not go in pakistan ? Please call all muslims from india, that after we live here peacefully.

Amir Bangash
Oct 16, 2013 07:01pm

Look who are the victims of terrorism? It is Muslims killed with bombs every where and still they and Islam are blamed for the terrorism.

rana1
Oct 16, 2013 07:55pm

@John: Am a muslim and i love my christian neighbours here just as i was taught by my parents and its what am teaching my children.My kith and kin do the same.A christian friend was the best man at my wedding.

Amir Bangash
Oct 16, 2013 10:05pm

@santosh.gore11@gmail.com: Don,t you think that the Indian Muslims now deserve yet another separate home land so that you can live there peacefully?.

NizamuddinAhmad Aali
Oct 17, 2013 09:27am

Please read al- Quran, the Holy Book of Islam. Do not say something which does not make any sense and without any merit.

Pramod
Oct 17, 2013 11:05am

@Saad(DXB): lets discuss first the 3 million Bangladeshi and lacs of people in Jordan killed by Pakistan Army and how Pakistani minority is reduced to 2 % from 20% in Pakistan.

Mukesh
Oct 17, 2013 06:00pm

Why did the mufti decided to remind muslims of such a basic thing?? Because most of muslims live in denial mode.

SLDUA
Oct 17, 2013 07:48pm

In his sermon, the Grand Mufti of the Ka,aba, nowhere recognizes non-Muslims. He talks only of the Muslim world, for the Muslim world. This is the basic dispute between Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims don't recognize others' sufferings. All other problems are generated out of this non-recognition. When mixed up with the concept of Jihad, it creates a psyche that makes Muslims incapable to co-exist peacefully with others. That is why plural democracy is not compatible with Islam.

Rao
Oct 17, 2013 08:01pm

@Tamilselvan: Grand mufti will not have the courage to step into these two countries.

Mahmood
Oct 17, 2013 09:15pm

If we apply santosh's argument then all Hindus should have moved to India. How come there are still hundreds of thousands of Hindus still live in Pakistan? I don't want them to go to India as they preferred to live in Pakistan as Pakistani citizens.

Avinash
Oct 17, 2013 11:09pm

@ Amir Bangash, are the Muslims living peacefully in the country specially created for them to live according to the tenets of their Religion? Those who demanded and got a separate country should have exercised the option of re-settling in that country.

Rao_Sahib
Oct 18, 2013 01:07am

@Mukesh: Right

gagan sarkar
Oct 18, 2013 02:03am

@NizamuddinAhmad Aali:

Most muslims read the holy book, much more than any other followers of other religions. And still, Muslims do lot of crimes everywhere they live.

gary
Oct 18, 2013 02:05am

@NizamuddinAhmad Aali:

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

How do you explain this, Nizamuddin?

Sandeep
Oct 18, 2013 03:19am

@Mariam: Word Up

Shruti
Oct 18, 2013 04:36am

@NizamuddinAhmad Aali: Freedom of speech is a very important thing. If you don't like something being said, by all means ignore it. But do not expect or tell people to stop speaking and having their own opinions. Even if they are being stupid in their argument.

Shruti
Oct 18, 2013 04:46am

@Amir Bangash: You mean terrorist attacks only happen in Islamic countries?? Look at it this way. In India, every terrorist attack is due to Islamic hardliners. Also in most of the other countries (non islamic). Why should we look at Islamic countries for a reference, when I can see that in my home the most threat is posed by extremists of 1 religion and not the others. I am not saying all muslims are extremists. Most aren't. But the few that are, is still a bigger proportion of the total Islamic population than extremists of other religions are of that other religion.

Amir Bangash
Oct 18, 2013 11:07pm

@Shruti: I think you are kidding no one but yourself( MUN MEIN RAAM RAAM BAGHAL MEIN CHHORA). Just take a note of Muslims massacres in your country and have mercy on the left overs bcz they all are citizens of India and not Pakistan.