UNITED NATIONS, Oct 23: International Atomic Energy Agency Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei has called for talks with both the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea and Iran to resolve the issues of their nuclear programmes.

“If I look at the problems that we are facing right now –- the Korean situation, the Iran situation –- these problems hinge, in my view, on the parties sitting together,” Mr ElBaradei said in an interview with Newsweek ahead of his scheduled meeting with United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Washington.

“We need to move away from the idea that dialogue is a ‘reward’ for good behaviour. You need dialogue when you have bad behaviour, because the purpose of the dialogue is to change the behaviour. As former secretary of state James Baker said recently, talking to your enemy is not appeasement,” he said.

Asked about US assertions that Iran, despite its repeated denials, had a nuclear weapons programme, Mr ElBaradei reiterated his view that the jury was still out, saying that it was difficult to determine whether the Iranians intended to pursue a nuclear weapon, or were simply hedging their bet by developing their enrichment capability.

“But one of the lessons we learned from Iraq is that we really need to be very, very careful coming to conclusions because these issues make the difference between war and peace,” he said.

“And as long as I know, and I am supported by all intelligence agencies in this, Iran in the worst-case scenario is still a few years away, I have ample time to talk to them, I have ample time to negotiate with them, and I need to encourage them to cooperate with me.”

Asked whether he thought the IAEA would be blamed for the DPRK’s development of atomic weapons, Mr ElBaradei noted that the agency was ‘kicked out’ in 2003 when the country withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

“We lost jurisdiction. But I have been saying for the last two or three years that North Korea is the No1 security challenge to the NPT. I saw North Korea out of the [treaty] regime; I saw North Korea having plutonium; I saw North Korea feeling more and more isolated. I saw this coming,” he said.

He stressed that the IAEA’s annual budget of $120 million was insufficient and said it should be at least doubled to enable the agency to have independent satellite monitoring and a state-of-the-art laboratory for particle analysis.

“There is a difference between us and the Universal Postal Union. You can postpone issuing commemorative stamps or improving the efficiency of mail delivery, but in our areas there are certain things that we have to do yesterday, because otherwise we are going to face a colossal danger. And people do not understand that. They do not prioritise.”