Are we suppose to forget the murder of innocent Pakistani men, women and children by these monsters? Look at the grin on their faces.

If the government concedes to their demands resulting in temporary conditional peace; it will bring forth continuous chain of such groups. Pakistan is our homeland! Let it flourish in the face of a challenging world of science and technology. Lets be brothers and sisters and become a prosperous nation.

It is sickening to see the smiling faces of these killers and murderers of innocent people and our armed forces on the front pages of leading newspapers. They have shown no rumorse nor they will for the heinous acts that they are carrying out. This is exactly what they wanted i.e. publicity and out news media is giving them at no cost. Their demands must be rejected at all cost, if these murderers win they'll set a precedence for others to follow

The Great Khan is the strong wise one. Negotiation is always the prefered way of the wise and strong.

The Afghan end game is in sight and TTP has lost quite a bit of ground, the ongoing suicide bombing wont win her any more sympathies or territory. They know it. They are trying to save some face. They should be crushed , and not talked to. What good can come out anyway of the talks mediated by hypocrites like Fazlu?

TTP does not accept the state of Pakistan, doesn't accept its Constitution , doesn't accept the human rights of Pakistani citizens and is responsible for thousands of murders of Pakistanis. Where is the room to negotiate ?

If these were honest men why do they always pose for photos with guns in their hands? If these were honest men why would their faces be masked? A picture is worth a thousand words.

there is no point in talking to people who do not accept the writ of the government to rule. They are self appointed people who lack the concept that other Pakistanis may have a different perspective. They feel only their opinion is worth counting, what is the point in wasting time with such people? They are likely just playing for time, as they have done in the past. The Talibs have lost a great deal of support from both the Pakistan army and public, even in KP. Sooner or later what little support that remains will evaporate, and with that any notion that they have any right to make any demands on the state. Their legitimacy comes from the barrel of a gun, and will vanish in a few years, when the US leaves Afghanistan.

We can not even have a convesation here without mentioning shias and sunnis how can we negotiate with Taliban? Lets put all our diffrences aside and unite than talk about negotioations with Taliban.

What concessions are Pakistan and Afghanistan willing to give them? Their right to blow out the brains of teenage girls and kidnap them as house slaves for marriage to old men who already have two wives or three wives? The right to smuggle heroin into Karachi and rob the Bank of Pakistan and the National Bank of Afghanistan? Will they be asked not to attack police stations and army bases in exchange for the right to bomb market places and murder the unholy civilians? We see a policy of appeasement simply because the men of Pakistan refuse to get involved. If Pakistani drones were attacking America or the Taliban were murdering children in America we would see millions of Americans signing up to join the armed forces. The same goes for Canada. Patriotism in Pakistan is simply a notion. If three million young Pakistani men joined the army the Taliban would be no more and children could go back to school. The school children would be signing "the hills are alive with the sound of music." Right is right and wrong is wrong. What is not permitted is the Taliban must not be permitted to live and to torment the innocent.

These are the faces of devils whose hands are full of blood of innocent people, children and women of this country. I wonder which religion's morality they follow, and which god they please!

Pakistan Army's stock that is already at the lowest at present will take anohter dive if these terrorist and murderers are not eliminated. If the Army cannot take out a gang of primitive criminals, how can it defend the country's bordders??? They will get a premanent "F" for their failure, just like the politicians.

Never believe on TTP. They should come farword for unconditional talks but the government of Pakistan should put some pre-conditions for talks like expell all non-pakistani fighters out of the country before start of talks

only a fool would trust these criminal gangs know as Taliban. They have committed the most horrible crimes against humanity and the country. Who would shake their bloody hands? if debacle in Swat can teach any lesson it is that there can be no peace with these animals. They don't want peace because suddenly they have changed into angels, they are still devils, they just want some time to pick up the pieces of their badly shattered gang. This is the time to hit them harder and finish them off. There can be no peace with devil.

How can one talk with people who have decapitated innocent Pakistani's heads and flogged women and shot young girls who just wanted to be educated? Can the nation just forget their dastardly acts and anoint them as saints? These people crossed a line and should never be excused.

Yes the govt. should negotiate with them. TTP was not bothering anybody until the US came. If the govt. can negotiate a nationwide cease fire, then the aggressors will be shown to be who they always were, outside foreign forces. Tell the US to pick up their drones and go home, Pakistan does not need them bombing their citizens in their attempts to rid the world of Muslims, when their ultimate aim is to claim that Paki needs them to come in and secure (take over) the nuclear arms. All the groups even in Afghanistan are willing to negotiate peace with each other and the govt. so why is this not happening? Because the US wants the oil in Bajur, and the Caspian Sea. Why should Paki give up it's natural resources?

Do we have a choice? They are our people, first and foremost. If successive governments had paid any attention to the uplift of people in Northern Area, this would not have happened the way it has.

If the NATO/US are negotiating peace deal with Afghan Taliban and on the orders of US, Pakistan has released captive taliban, then why should't there be conditional negotiation with TTP and the government. In the past as alleged Army has broken agreement and TTP doesn't want any deal with the Army this time. It is a good sign they want political leadership as their guarantors. One thing is for sure that the Armies of Pakistan and NATO have failed to break the back of TTP insurgency. We cannot try another failed military solution. Ten years is a long time and we cannot fight for another decade. We have to move forward to build Pakistan and only a peaceful environment would work. Unlike Balochistan's Insurgents, TTP are Pakistanis and do not have any demand of a separate country. It is better to draw political and military boundaries on pre 9/11 demarcation. Army also needs a face saving agreement.

IT WILL BE SIGN OF WEAKNESS to talk to these murderers of forty thousand innocent Pakistanis. They must be captured and tried for BLASPHEMY for the way they have been INSULTING ISLAM. Fazlu and others should be tried for TREASON for helping them. All Saudi sponsored Madarrasses should be given notice to move to Saudia with their students because they are the suppliers of suicide bombers give local intelligence and shelter to these shameless creatures. LONG LIVE PAKISTAN without these criminals/extremists...

looks like the taliban has selected 3 saints to stand as guarantors. haha we will keep scratching our heads till we find the answers.

My God!!!! look at their vicious smiles; how can anyone in this world see them 'islamic' or anything to do with Islam.

After killing thousands now need peace talk? as its said .. after eating 100 mice , cat goes to hajj

bhai saab it is because of people like you who still defend, the indefensible that the Talibs are still killing our soldiers, our police, our Malala. These people run their 'jihad' financed by trading opium, kidnapping innocents for ransom and robbing banks. Which element of this is remotely islamic? You have been duped into thinking these people are for Islam, they were bandits before 9/11 and with a black turban they are still bandits, nothing more. I would suggest you read about their behavior in Swat in 2009.

1st of all don't mix up the Pakistani taliban and al-qaeda ,..there are 2 different parties ,working on different agenda..Al-qaeda is fighting against US-ARMY and its allies,they have nothing to do with Pakistan ..secondly The Pakistani taliban ..they are fighting against PAKISTAN ...their demand is that ..Pakistan must leave the afghan war ,and must not help USA ....also there should be sharia law in Pakistan...............and i am soory but you don't know anything about Pakistan ..i always see you on facebook aswell ..you are anti pakistani..Pakistan is way different then your thinking , don't mix up Pakistan with afghanistan ...afghanistan is a war torn country ,it has no development,no literacy rate ,nothing ..but Pak has much literacy rate ,much development,much army ...

The reason why we can't do

TTP it itself funded by foreign powers and its agenda is to conquer Pakistan. You seem little concerned about its killings of thousands of Pakistanis.

completely agree with you, the saudi funded schools must follow the state curriculum and saudi sponsorship of these groups must end. Fazlullah & friends must be tried to treason.

So If the USA kills the innocents , that gives license to TTP to kill innocents too? Very interesting. Sounds like I am responding to Imran Khan :-)

Teh Taliban naming their gaurantors tells us a lot about those people themsleves. These are feudals and the Taliban is their tool of convenience. Teh strong arm of the fuedal who can keep the population under control of the feudal, using religion as a leverage to keep their souls enslaved.

This is so pathetic situation. Government is talking to terrorists.

Take home your home made "Sharia: we don;t need that. Islam is such a peaceful and progressive religion and people like you have made it terror for any human being. We're better off without Taliban's Sharia, plz leave us alone. Pakistan was made and IS for normal people , not for ones who want to force their own sickening way of life to others.

The regressive Taliban are a small gang of criminals that uses trrror, murder and shock to intimidate the innocents. Pakistani military needs to grow some spine and take them on and eleiminate this menace once and for all. Negotiating with them will bring the snake back in your house. It will not stop biting. Ultimately, Pakistan will have to deal with people, if it was to move forward into the modern 21-century. These people do not want to be in this century.

The guy on the left is Ehsanullah Ehsan, and he is NOT a Hazara or a Shia. He is the spokesman for TTP.

Your armed forces have killed their children. They have the right to figh back.

Taliban is losing the war and hence they want to talk to the government.

What is Pakistan doing without punish the Talibans for the crime which they have committed?Shameful.The spirits of so many people(innocent Pakistani civilians) who have been killed by the Taliban are asking justice from Pakistan court.

just want to say "its better to die on our feet than live on our knees"

Pakistani and Afghani Terrorists(TTP) operate a full fledge embassy in Qatar, funded and operated by USA (against the will of Pakistan and afghanistan). Taliban's anti shia violent stand (25% population) will bring chaos in pakistani society. We don't need to negotiate with killers. We need to deal with them with due justice wherever they are in pakistan.....

Sick of comments showing sympathy for Taliban, because they were against US, because US is negotiating with Taliban in Afghanistan, because there are drone attacks in Waziristan, because of this, because of that.. Could any body please tell how many US marines TTP have killed, if presumably they are fighting against US. And on the contrary how may thousands of Pakistanis they have brutally murdered, in our markets, schools, school buses, armed forces, military bases, churches, Moharram processions, Do we need to talk to these monsters, who do not want our girls to go to school, who would not allow Mens football and Hockey teams to wear shorts, who would burn down our Cinemas, and religious places of minorities. I believe this is not the kind of Pakistan most of Pakistanis wish to see. I am just being optimistic.. If ever there was a time to speak up, it is NOW.

i think they are not sub human but non human

Speaking of misinformation you are providing...there has never been any evidence that the TTP is either supported or funded by the USA...this is a lie that has been repeated over and over...think about it...the USA is sending drones to kill the TTP...why would they support the enemy they are trying to kill?

Suppose the negotiations do take place then what would happen. let me explain the scenario. Meeting time is 11:00 am. It is 11:30 am now all the political parties representatives have arrived except the TTP representative. He is running late. Oh! He has just arrived. TTP representative : I am running half an hour late , I would not offer any apology to you people. I only apologize to Allah. I am running late because I had to get some Pakistani army men and some MQM Politicians urgently killed before the meeting . Rest of the party members were in a shock when they heard that. When TTP representative stared at them with anger they all quickly responded. Subhan Alllah Subhan Alllah. During the meeting PML N

Couldn't have agreed more! There is no place for Taliban in Pakistan. The governments in Pakistan need to take drastic steps to curb the spread of these Kharajis

TTP is losing steam, running out of resources, their leadership is droned, there are internal fights, tribals are not supporting them, PA is attacking them. So now they want to talk, don't trust them.

How can you believe the word of Taliban. Who will be guarantors for them that they will abide by any peace pact? What was the result of all previous peace talks/pacts? How can you even believe these looters and murderers! Their motive is clear, they will just have their leaders released as part of the conditions for talk and will then continue with looting and killing the people. If talks were to be held with Taliban at all, there should be no conditions from Taliban, conditions should be put forth by Govt./Army which should include giving up of arms by Taliban, surendering of all Taliban terrorists who have been claiming responsibilities of various acts of terrorism for trials/punishments as per law of the land. The fact is that no one is serious to resolve this issue, neither govt nor armed forces have any such intent, otherwise the first step to control the Taliban should have been to stop all ways and means thru which Taliban get their arms and ammunition!

What hidden motives? All they want is foreign powers and agendas to leave us alone. Was their any suicide bombing in Pakistan prior to 9/11? However, I think they need to relax a bit in their Shariah implementation calls and try to start with undisputed Shariah laws which people would love to see implemented, for example, catching the thieves, implementing inheritance for females and hanging murderers like Shahrukh Jatoi. I also think that Sir Imran Khan would have been the best political guarantor. He is sincere, honest, brave, pro-Islamic and has an international standing. I wonder why they did not name him...

God help Pakistan, talks with terrorist ??? We are done !

Plz stop these conspiracy theories of yours. There are bad people in army, they are not angels but I don't believe any army person is anti-Pakistan, period.

You are fool. Do you think government has done anything for anyone... Government is just facade that everyone has to suffer to keep country running. That does not give these gphalf literate men to start bargaining to release terrorist and negotiating with govt. and army!!! Do you respect your own soldiers or not?? Indian government had negotiated release of such terrorist for one planr load of people, at the end left with same people created havoc that killed 10times more people!!! Wake up, these politicians want to show that they are doing something so that they can go to next elections... They don't care good or evil....

Whatever he looks like, he has blood of 40,000 Pakistanis on his hand. Btw, Ehsanullah Ehsan is not Hazara.

100% agreed!

They have everything to do against Islam. They are the biggest enemies of Islam and Muslims.

These three politicians have connections with militants. They should be investigated and court marshaled for what they have done in the past. They government and military should go all guns blazing against these terrorists and rid the country of these thugs once and for all. There is no such thing as good and bad taliban because they are all criminals. If these they are forgiven then everyone will chop off heads and bomb people in large numbers and be forgiven.

They are our people? how so? the Uzbeks Tajiks Saudis Afghanis etc are NOT our people. Our people are those being shot and blown to pieces by these animals. No negotiation should be started with these animals, they are a cancer that must be destroyed. And you speak of successive gov not paying attention to the Northern Area, does that give terrorists the legitimacy to carry out their ideologies by kidnapping and killing girls? blowing up their schools? attacking non muslims? to answer your question YES we do have a choice, exterminate the vermin and educate the populace so these types will not fester any further in Pakistan. Calling foreign terrorists on PAK soil one of us? it is laughable

These are cowards, murderers ignorant beasts The fat dog Ehsan can only eat He does not have the guts to blow himself up, he picks on innocent children. Mehsud sits in his armoured Humvee whilst his brainwashed followers kill their innocent countrymen These cowards are not worthy of talk - the Army and Airforce should know the caves and holes where they live and assasinate them - but thay cant what a shame for the 5th biggest Army in the world. These animals have turned Pakistan into a slaughterhouse and they will have a one of the darkest places in hell inshallah Be brave target the leaders and the TTP will disappear - i will be horrified if we start talking to these animals

The leaders Talibans have chosen to be the guarantors are equally untrustworthy. This condition means more embarrassment for the government than actual negotiations

useless hero of pakistani youth (namely imran khan) is dying to negotiate with taliban. jaisey youth waisa hero !!!!!!

dynsus, if u form a political party i will support u and vote for u. i will never, ever vote for fake imran khan.

'the chosen guarantors' are people who taliban see as credible. need i say more?

TTP is getting stronger and growing bigger each day ... wow.

I don't have any desire to listen to them. Taliban;s are animals, not human being. The sad part is that after killing thousands of innocent people, almost all of them muslims, they still kill dozens of civilians for breakfast. They have given a bad name to our peaceful and beautiful religion and now they are putting condition to talk ? Talk about what? Why can't we achieve peace the way Sri Lankans did, by defeating them. Why we have to talk to these murderers.

"our people???? " Those who were killed by these butchers were our people, not these dogs and wolves, for God sake.

They are buying time till 2014 ...............they will regroup and strike hard after that

If one of your body part develops gangrene then u cut it, you do not pet it till it engulfs the whole body and becomes fatal.

I don't know why they even try.

What is the surety that these guys are leaders of Taliban. Taliban I guess it just a name we use for the guy who have taken guns against governments unconditional support to US. Lets not be fooled again and again. If we get US out of our matters and get ourselves independent once again. This crises will end.

Taliban are running out of ammunition, I.e suicide volunteers, so they want to talk. Also when US leaves Afghanistan , and the Taliban take over there ,they will want peace relations with Pakistan, hence the TTP won't be able to use afghan territory to hide and will be cornered in Fata. talk. I say shoot first negotiations later.

THE TTP IS A AMERICAN TANZEEM NOT A ISLAMIC. HE KILLED OUR INNOCENT CHILDREN.

Salam to all. If we do debate with such evils it would be curse. We should not forget the blood of our Army man who sacrificed their lives to save the innocents. If we do so it would be our V big strategic mistake the TTP will gain power again and will start new crime story and demanding more terms as ultimate demand would be Application of Taliban Islam not real ISLAM. So please do oppose these at all levels.

Welcome to Islam

Once Pakistan stops fighting Americas war there will be peace.

The guy in the left look like a Hazara...but why does Talibans target peace loving Hazaras, shias?

After killing so many innocent civilians in the name of Islam they want to talk now. If I had my way, I would shoot first and talk later.

Nuke them!

We should learn the lesson from past. Whenever these savages need a breather, they talk about truce. Then they break the accord whenever they feel like. These people have no morality. They are animals and should be treated like ones as well. Govt. should never negotiate with them.

Agree to whatever they say and bring them to the table. That would be better than getting so many innocent people killed on a daily basis. Start talking to them and vacate their land, otherwise, I'm afraid that there will be no Pakistan left for you to rule.

These men are neither Muslims, nor can they be considered Human. Even mentioning their names in the same sentence as the word Islam is an insult to the Ummah of peace loving Muslims. Now this is Islam ---> "Sunni Ittehad Council issue fatwa against terrorism" http://dawn.com/2013/02/05/sunni-ittehad-council-issue-fatwa-against-terrorism/ Beware of the TTP. They do not serve the interests of Islam, Pakistan, nor it's people. There is substantial evidence that the TTP are US funded and receive their information, directives, and other resources directly from the Americans. The TTP is only de-stabilizing Pakistan, giving Islam a bad name, keeping Pakistani Army occupied when it is needed most in these turbulent times, and serving interests of it's masters. Be wary and cautious when you consider these vile men to be representing Islam or the Pakistanis. The only ones that are gaining out the TTP's existence are the Americans. And don't forget, Americans have a long history of proxy war fighting... Google and research...There is much disinformation going around dividing people on many levels.

Taliban the killers of thousands of innocent muslims/pakistani, As per Quran they are FISADI/MUFSID,found them and kill them They responsible for all propaganda against Islam through out the world NEVER SIT FOR TABLE TALK WITH THEM

Vacate their land? and how about the thousands of other people living on those lands? And what is the guarantee that they would not move forward after getting a foothold? As per their aspirations they want to impose their distorted view of 'sharia' first on Pakistan and then the whole world.

Negotiations can only be held with humans, not with a sub-human group.

World would see them as Muslims, as they have beards, but so do the sikhs and 'Abu Jahal'.

After reading the article and going through the comments, I have observed that most of the Pakistanis are against the Taliban, and don't want to negotiate with Taliban. IS ANY ONE LISTENING?

you have misunderstood the US, when the US wants access Chilean Copper or African minerals they do not always invade and seize, they trade with these countries. The US invasion of Afghanistan was not about access to minerals, it was about perceived revenge about 9/11. They were led by a moron who could not understand he was actually damaging the interests of the US, rather than advancing them by invasion. If the US wanted access to Afghan minerals why did they not take control of the largest mineral resources auctioned in Afghanistan? all have gone to Chinese and indian groups. This argument used by the Taliban is actually factually incorrect, but often repeated.

It is pathetic that the civilian government has crippled our army to the level that now they can not go and summarily execute these criminals like they executed the TPP founder Abdullah Mehsood.

Pakistan should talk to Taliban, and end this hostility with them. Army should stop allowing other nations to drop drone strikes on our soil and territory and make peace within our country. We should look to safeguard our own interests and it cannot come without talking to these people and then concentrate on building our economy from scratch with long term planning. Otherwise asking for donations from international powers and money and going to IMF will never set peace in our country. Army can only work when we keep peace with these rebels whose families are also suffering. Let them embrace them and make peace and progress in our dear homeland. Dawn post my comment

The army is clearly in talks with the Taliban and now want the politicians to own it. Any smart politician would realize the threat peace deals between the army and Taliban can pose to the country.

The Great Khan is the one who has the ability get Pakistan out of this quagmire.

Malala was/is a foreign agent. Get over that already.

There are no good Talibans except the dead Talibans. They have have almost destroyed Pakistan and have destabilized the whole region. Peace treaty with taliban is just like peace with a devil.

American selling his propaganda lies.

They can strike hard any time the want.

Handsome. God fearing. Fearless Muslims. They wll clean upthe corrupion Pakistan is famous for around the world.

Nonsense!

I agreeThe Great Khan is the rational answer: Sincere, trustworthy, strong, wise.

In their eyes you are the murderers killing their children.

Next they will want to be President

Donot talk to terrorist

100% Disagree.

And all this time I was thinking it was the Americans. I guess I am not brainwashed yet like the rest of you. My bad.

First learn to shoot. They seem to be doing all the shooting. And they are goodat it. Better than you will ever be.

Non-Sequitur. Does not follow. Poor logic. Nonsense.

Your are highly intelligent. I wish Pakistanis could be as smart as you and able to see through the brain washing asyou obviously have. Thank you for the courage to say it like it is.

Time for the Taliban warriors to change tactics and dismantle your cities and infrastructure.

First try and save your children from drones.