Last week when PTI chief, Imran Khan, held a joint press conference with the head of the fundamentalist Jamat-i-Islami (JI) and hinted that his party may get into an electoral alliance with the JI, many frontline PTI enthusiasts on the social media were not impressed.

They are at pains to describe the PTI as a ‘genuine liberal party,’ some even argue that it is actually ‘leftist.’

Of course, thus far, PTI has largely come across as being a more animated and youthful version of the conservative PML-N.

PTI has tried to mix things up by placing one of its dancing feet in the idealistic potpourri of urban middle-class youth, while attempting to place its other foot in the muddy mush where a number of right-wing Islamist outfits have been rolling for attention. This is the mush where PML-N too has a foothold in.

If the JI does get into an alliance with the PTI, it will not be the first time this otherwise elitist Islamic outfit would allow itself to jump into the fry of populist politics.

From its controversial involvement in the 1953 anti-Ahmadiya riots in Lahore, to its participation in the raising of violent militant squads by the Pakistan Army against Bengali nationalists in 1971; and from its active role in toppling the Z A. Bhutto regime, to supplying the ideological rationale and manpower to Ziaul Haq’s ‘Islamisation’ project and jihad in Afghanistan, the JI has found itself to be at the centre of a number of controversial episodes that one can’t quite call democratic.

But why would Imran Khan who in recent months has been riding a wave of popularity be so willing to ally himself with the JI?

Apart from JI’s awkward past, it has never been an electorally strong entity. It has not managed to get more than five per cent of the votes in all the elections that it has taken part in ever since 1970.

Its main hurrah in this respect only arrived during the 2002 election when it was just one part of the religious parties’ alliance, the MMA. And even then many analysts insist MMA’s victory in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) was ‘facilitated’ by the ideologically schizophrenic Musharraf dictatorship.

Thus, Khan is certainly not in line to bag any additional number of seats if he allies his party with the JI in the next election.

And even though JI still has some muscle left  on its otherwise creaking bones to gather a good number of people for rallies, Khan can now do that on his own.

So if one rules out gathering additional seats in an election or the fattening of political rallies as reasons for Khan’s romance with JI, what else is there for him to gain from the purposed alliance?

He hasn’t been able to give a more concrete answer himself, apart from that he thinks JI is one of the few ‘non-controversial’ and ‘clean’ parties out there.

Of course, Khan’s political naïveté and his simplistic (if not entirely selective) understanding of the country’s political history have never been a secret, so let’s just leave his reading of the JI at that.

However, there just might be some pragmatic meat after all behind Khan’s move to partner JI, or for that matter, to continue sending his ‘envoys’ to rallies held by far-right groups such as the Difa-e-Pakistan Council (DPC).

JI’s vote bank which is more akin to generate spoilers than produce winners, mainly lies in pockets in Karachi, Lahore, central Punjab and parts of KP.

For example, in elections that were boycotted by JI, most of its votes largely went to conservative-democratic parties like the PML-N. In some incidents a chunk of JI voters voted for PML-N just so the JI candidate is not able to split the right-wing vote in the constituency and consequently produce a victory for non-right/secular parties.

So perhaps what is on Khan’s mind is a three-way fight (especially in the Punjab) between the PML-N, PPP and PTI, where Khan wants the JI vote to come to him instead of going to the PML-N?

In theory it makes sense. But statistics of the elections held since 1988 clearly see how rapidly JI’s vote bank has shrunk.
It is however true though, that JI votes continue to go to PML-N.

So does this mean that by warming up to Islamic outfits whose supporters usually end up voting for the much larger conservative political parties such as the PML-N and JUI-F, Khan is squarely going for the PML-N and JUI-F vote bank?

I believe so. By holding hands with the JI and flirting with DPC, Khan is trying to attract the right-wing and Islamic votes into becoming consolidated PTI votes.

If he also manages to break a few PPP votes then that will be a bonus because his other hope in this respect are the young first-time-voters. They are a mixture of formally apolitical (but socially liberal) urbanites and those who see Khan as some kind of a reincarnation of a more romanticised version of Z.A. Bhutto.

That said, there certainly is an ideological link between PTI and JI as well. Apart from being baptised into politics by right-wing figures such as Hamid Gul, Khan’s initial political training took place at the hands of former JI chief, Qazi Hussain Ahmed.

Though one can’t accuse Khan of being an ‘Islamic fundamentalist,’ he most certainly is right-wing. At least in the post-Cold War context in which many rightists have adopted a number of old leftist gestures, rhetoric and postures to address the concerns of societies disorientated by the economic and social fall-outs of things like globalisation, religious extremism and War on Terror.

 Khan also seems to have a sentimental spot for JI. His idea about JI suggests that he views this party as an ideological powerhouse that just got blown away by the crude ways of populist electoral politics.

Some would also suggest that since Khan’s recent rise was shaped a bit by some powerful figures in the country’s intelligence agencies, it was only natural for him to make friends with the ‘B teams of the agencies’, such as JI, DPC, etc.

Whatever the case, Khan is very much his own man now. His popularity, if not entirely judged by superficial popularity polls, does have a genuine tinge to it.

His rendezvous with the Islamic right in the shape of JI or DPC may make some political sense, but he should also be conscious of the other side of the issue.

His manoeuvres in this regard are likely to make his more liberal supporters question his egalitarian postures and stands on things like religious extremism: not only the kind practised by sectarian and militant organisations, but also the sort of religious bullying members of parties like JI have had a history of.

Suffice to say, these are the kind of questions that are not answered by sharing sofas and stages with outfits known for having sympathies for Islamic extremists and for laws that have created more disorder than otherwise.

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Comments (141)

Tariq K Sami
July 9, 2012 3:10 am
His latest book is The Obama Syndrome (published 2010, see his more recent interview with Amy Goodman in Democracry Now or watch his address to the Chicago Convention in 2012). Danial saheb you should not make unsubstantiated comments.You are so unfair.
Tariq K Sami
July 9, 2012 3:13 am
So why not join his party and bring your good ideas to his table. After all you have tried every one else.
Tariq K Sami
July 9, 2012 3:45 am
Imran does not need JI votes. I think he wants to neutralise the street power of the JI thugs. Remember the Nizam e Mustapha movement that brought down ZAB. Imran has seen how ZAB buckled under pressure of the fundamentalists. So his way of minimising their negative impact is to keep them under his influence rather than let them get on the other side. Two days ago a drone strike killed 22 people in NW. So what do you think will happen now ? Create more bigots and fundamentalists???
July 8, 2012 12:41 pm
Mr Observer we have nothing left to loose , no clean water to drink , no pavements to walk , no electricity , no education schools and education dept do not open for more than four months a year , no safety of life and assets ,no jobs for those who are qualified you can only hook one if you know somebody or you bye one ,list is endless and if Imran Khan can provide only few things that i have mentioned above we will be in a winning side no right no left and if he do not then we will loose nothing we are lost already.
July 8, 2012 9:26 pm
for those who are in doubts should know that a strong politicle system in pakistan will leave no room for perpitrators.hence its very important that the politicle system remain under tight controle for the benefits of these perpitrators.we on the whole making a great folly by joining their hands in bashing main stream politicians.we will continue to suffer as long as we have this mindset that politicians are corrupt and are resposible for every damage done to the country.they are just scape goat.
Capt Mansur
July 8, 2012 9:24 pm
You are so correct Nasser...even more correct than me...LOL
antanu g
July 8, 2012 9:06 pm
NFP is in fact a preacher of dooms day with a heart full of anti religious attitude. this is why he is held in high esteem by anti Muslim forces. his only expertise is in ridiculing religion and it's creeds.
Muhammad Ahmed
July 8, 2012 9:06 pm
Hmmm... I hope being Red Indians will allow future generations to benefit from all the casinos on the reserves and make it big in the future. I found that to be a tasteless metaphor since the sufferings of "Trail of Tears" and continuous displacement went beyond anything experienced by locals or even minorities in Pakistan. This metaphor can only be used either by Afghans or people from FATA who have probably experienced worst conditions because of tussle between Taliban and military. I think nonetheless Rai speaks what we all feel and does highlight a level of frustration being felt by majority of the country. It is however important to note that author is indeed addressing a valid concern that leftists might have and it might result into a very nasty divorce between PTI and JI once the election will be over.
July 8, 2012 8:40 pm
yes they "condemened" by killing and raping millions with the army! alhomodillila
July 8, 2012 6:43 pm
IK is simply JI without a beard.
July 8, 2012 6:41 pm
No discussion is baseless. But this is what the conservative and the religious believe in.
Revolutionary Left
July 8, 2012 6:39 pm
Rise of Imran Khan shows the bankruptcy of main stream political parties in Pakistan. Especially due to right wing policies of PPP, the PPP founding documents reveal its mission to establish a classless society in Pakistan which is possible through only Socialist Revolution. However coming leaderships of PPP revolted against its own foundation, it is most advocate of Capitalism than others. So Ji is like empty beacon striving for mass base around DFC but religious parties are failed to deliver anything to people. Now right wing see hope in form of Imran Khan but he is already exposed and can not bring any change, His economic program is same as of his previous leaders. You can not fool the history, so religious parties or Imran dont have future. We have only two ways left one is barbarism other is Socialism !
Malik G Rasool
July 8, 2012 8:11 pm
But Jinnah Gandhi did not go with fanatics. He is supporting those people who do not believe in education, do not believe in the women rights, do not believe that other people can have different opinions, like Maulana Sami ul Haq, Hafiz Saeed, Gen. Gul Hameed, Sheikh Rasheed. These dual personalities are actual problem of Pakistan. Imran is also a dual personality and he has no political sense at all.
July 8, 2012 7:45 pm
With all due respect most of this hatred is not spat out of the mouths of the poor or uneducated but to the contrary it is propagated by the educated and semi - educated religious-political right i.e. JI and other similar parties (BTW i do not include PTI or many other political parties in this list). So education here has actually played a negative role. As either it has been imparted incorrectly (bad teaching) or what was imparted was incorrect.(wrong curriculum). My experience is that things are not so vain in Pakistan. In the past few years is that the rural uneducated or semi-educated class is more in touch with their needs more than before especially in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa where feudalism is not common. People in KPK from all parts of society bar women in some areas vote and they vote on issues may be it national , provincial, local or personal (mostly personal). This trend is also common on urban voters across Pakistan. Once this trend becomes the NORM more and more people will vote and the more effective democracy will become just like it has in India. Democracy is an imperfect system and it takes time to settle and produce results. This time is not measured in years but in decades. A true example of this is the US where it took a civil war and a great depression for democracy to bear results. In Britain where there was a civil war. France where there was a revolution. Japan had to bear nuclear holocaust. Germany had to be bifurcated. Surprisingly, India (the uneducated country) has given birth to a democracy which has claimed the least amount of lives before showing results. Pakistan has a chance to do so..lets take this chance which has been given to us.
Amir Saeed
July 8, 2012 8:06 pm
NFP's articles have such a tired feel to them. Same cliches churned out over and over again. I think he never got over his college days two bit revolutionary activities. His brand of left-right politics is absolutely irrelevant to today's Pakistan. Who cares to get into the finer points of what constitutes true left? What people want is solution to their simple everday problems. And what exactly is his grouse with the urban middle class? Is not the middle class seen as a measure of country's prosperity and a prerequisite for stable political system?
July 8, 2012 8:52 am
IK is still thinking like a Cricketer where you can win by collecting, by chance, 11 talented guys from millions without a proper and organized strucutre for team development. He is still living the life of "popular slogans" and "cheap popularity policies". I hope he can change to help the arrival of change in Pakistan.
July 8, 2012 10:08 pm
PTI means;perpitrators tehreek-e-ilzam
July 8, 2012 9:56 pm
Reverse Khan or Inverse Khan,failed to understand the objective of writing this article. Unfortunately NFP world is PPP & Zardari, therefore interesting to note that many people shown interest in good for nothing article .
July 8, 2012 8:17 am
JI is the only party whose ministers have not remained corrupt, there is not one allegation of corruption against them. There is also nothing "extremist" about them, bar the fact that the head starts his speech with, "Bismillah". Why the needless hate? NFP has presented a very biased story; JI condemns the separation of East Pak with all its heart
Zoaib Ahmed Khan
July 8, 2012 8:55 am
You're missing the point. IK called himself leftist in terms of his economic policy because he believes in a welfare state. In the same book, he also explains the fight in Pakistan now is not between right and left, but between a corrupt elite vs the vast majority of people, as it could be seen recently in the Arab Spring. The western political narrative didn't fit in the jeans-wearing "liberal" teens protesting against the so-called "liberal" leader Hosni Mubarak. And it also doesn't fit in Pakistan anymore.
umair latif
July 11, 2012 9:01 pm
No weightage in ur argument...rather its an allegation......he is untested so how can you say this?
Salman Zafar
July 8, 2012 8:49 am
As khan says: Its not about right or left... its about right or wrong...
July 8, 2012 7:11 pm
And what about moral corruption? The most morally corrupt party is JI, but I don't suppose that matters to you?
July 9, 2012 12:58 am
It's not true that only 50% of Indians are educated. It may be closer to 75-80%.
July 8, 2012 9:53 pm
Why there is no journalist in Pakistan who dare to write like NFP in Urdu language.While Urdu columnists either do not have courage or they are just useless.I dont like NFP or PPP but by reading him now I know at-least that Imran does not have what it takes to change the course of history or Pakistan.But still better then PML-N.He can only take there voters not PPPs.
Ali Khan
July 8, 2012 7:55 am
But Cheema sahib, it is the fanatics that Imran is romancing with that are a bigger threat to the future our children, no?
July 8, 2012 9:49 pm
Education never means only a college degree. People of India has the education/experience of voting into elections for as many as 20 elections. They have observed democracy taking its baby steps, has been at the receiving end of both the goods and bads of democracy for more than 65 years. And by the way the recent census gives the literacy rate to be somewhere between 70 to 80 %.
July 8, 2012 8:44 pm
you are right hammod; elections and democracy is the way forward; that is how people will mature; no religion mumbo jumbo with state!
Karachi Wala
July 10, 2012 3:27 pm
Have you ever read Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Munawwar Hussain, Liaqat Baloach ect.... Ji leaders statements? It is hard to distiguish between them and Mulla Omer, Hafiz Saeed, Qadri and others like them.
Amer Ali
July 8, 2012 7:39 am
True, but NFP clearly doubts that Khan will be able to break the PPP vote. That's why he says it will be a bonus for PTI even if it manages to break some of the PPP votes.
Muhammad Ahmed
July 8, 2012 7:56 am
Well, it is important to understand the concept of endosymbiosis. It can work wonders or end up in huge blunders. I personally think that NFP has a bias against JI. His tone changes when he mentions JI and he provides a very shrouded truth based on his experience in campus politics. I personally do not find JI attractive but everyone will have to admit that this is the only party where leadership is not dependent on bloodlines and people actually get elected via party elections. Unfortunately, JI should never have been a political party and could have done much better job as a reformist party. It actually did give rise to two interesting splinter religious groups. One of these being Javed Ahmed Ghamdi's centrist group and the other belonging to more conservative strand that came out when Dr. Israr Ahmed split from the group to focus on preaching. I think the coalition between JI and PTI can provide another key component to PTI which comes out in form of more conservative young voters. There was a great number of people growing up in 80s and 90s who were influenced by local madrassas. Most of these people have withheld their vote and have refrained from voting along PPP or PMLN lines. I think this alliance can actually motivate many of these folks to come out and vote. I seriously doubt that this alliance wilhave such a significant overall impact but it seems like a pretty logical move for next year's elections.
Syed Ali
July 8, 2012 8:27 am
Yes, JI 'whole heartedly' helped massacre thousands of Bengalis.
July 8, 2012 8:48 am
@ Rai Hammad - "born for nothing die for nothing" Superb ! NFP is also almost always biased. Writers in Pakistan are harldy visionary. They just comment on present based on the nation's past. Even if I agree with NFP, then where is the hope ?, how will it ever change ? where does this end ? Rai your reading your comment was a better treat than the article itself.
Agha Ata
July 8, 2012 12:53 pm
I hope Imran Khan reads this article and corrects himself. He is about to make such a KIND OF political blunder that only General Musharraf was capable of making. Besides, I am glad Imran Khan exposed himslef just in time. Now people who never voted or wanted to vote JI know . . . whom not to vote.
July 9, 2012 12:09 am
So Sad but true. I don't think Imran can do much more damage than the current rascals, the politicians, religious biggots and the military, have not already done. I think he is an anjnou who is a legend in his own mind. He thinks he is the second coming of Kemal Atta-Turk. I have news for Imran.....He is not. Just be honest (that he seems to be) and do your best if you get the chance.
Haroon Khan
July 8, 2012 8:40 am
You missed my point completely. I haven't implied that you cannot put PTI into a left wing or right wing bracket. The question is ... How big a factor should this be considering the so called flag bearers of conservatism and liberalism have been corrupt and the country has suffered. Why should the left-right stance be a criterion for voting?
fida sayani
July 8, 2012 3:18 pm
what Pakistan needs is reincarnation of china Mao.
Tariq K Sami
July 8, 2012 3:24 pm
Seven layers of Imran: INTEGRITY : no questions about this. PRIDE: borderning on arrogance. BRAVERY: Example surviving 15 years of political wilderness. Lead from the front when he promoted himself in the batting order while on tour in India. ATHLETICISM: Fitness and good looks. Well dressed. Smart. Handsome. Once he even mentioned Jinnah when asked about his rich life style. COMPASSION: Shaukat khanum Hospital. Nimal University. RELIGIOSITY: has learned to pray 5 times. But more importantly thinks of being kind to others. NATIONALISTIC: Probably more anti-imperialistic than ZAB.
Ali Khan
July 8, 2012 8:07 am
Ahmed, please tell us how are 1953 anti-Ahmadi riots, the 1971 making of violent anti-Bengali squads by JI,the toppling of Bhutto government and paving the way for a dictatorship in 1977, then supporting this dictatorship, what all this is to do with NFP's antagonistic interaction with the Jamat during his student politics days? Instead of analyzing the writer's pro-Left history as a student leader, I'd rather have you relooking at the history of the Jamat instead. Peace.
Haroon Khan
July 8, 2012 8:05 am
I believe we are so enamoured with this whole Left-Right, Liberal-Conservative debate that we are loosing sight of the main issue. While these political extremities have credence in the west, they do not necessarily apply to Pakistan. Neither is PPP left, nor is PML-N .... they are both corrupt. I would like to ask NFP and people who agree with this article, would they rather take a chance to bring in an honest government or would stick to this western political narrative and continue to live in abject poverty without electricity, med-care, education or law and order?
July 9, 2012 12:15 am
You said it, my friend.
Jave Ali Shah
July 8, 2012 7:32 am
The write needs to study PTI stance. IK has repeatedly said, this is not the politics of Right and Left, rather its the politics of Right and Wrong. PMLN and PPP are the culprits and we have to abolish both the evil forces to turn around this country. Masses are well aware of the PTI strategy and they have full confidence on PTI and its leadership.
July 8, 2012 7:33 am
Imran is objecting on current government to cintinue Musharaf's policies but in fact he is going to implement a more Musharaf symbolic system than this govt. He is going to establish a government in center led by himself and alikes (clean shaven fundamentalists) and leave Khyber Pukhtunkhwa and Baluchistan again to be ruled by mullahs. Extremists and terrorists will be allowed again to strenghten their bases in all KP and baluchistan as MMA did in collaboration with Musharaf.
July 8, 2012 8:16 am
A good article. I think IK is playing the right cards now. Forget about rights, lefts or centers, it is votes that will win him elections. People should understand that life is not black and white, liberals and fundamentals, life exists in the shades of grey. And for Pakistan this is more true than anywhere else in the world. I believe in IK more than Zardari, Sharifs or the bhai logs. He is still the only hope this country has. So yes most of us will be disappointed with him if he joins the likes of JIs or MQMs. But then I hope that in the long run his vision will overcome the rest.
Syed Ali
July 8, 2012 8:14 am
Have you read Imran's book, 'Pakistan: A personal history' ? In it he calls himself a leftist. So kindly give this convoluted lecture to him. Its so typical of PTI supporters that when they are embarrassed by their leaders love affair with extremists, they start mumbling how left and right are a western concept. Well,so is pop music. So stop getting Strings and DJs at your jalsas.
July 9, 2012 3:35 am
imran,there are some journalists too in urdu media like nazir naji and some time ayaz amir and najam sethi columns apper in urdu news papers but far and few between
July 9, 2012 12:17 am
Democracy has a future if only there is no interference from the deep state and complete control of resources by civilian leaders. Of course, there will be corruption and bureaucratic teething issues as in any developing nation, but accountability to the people is a gradual process that cannot be achieved in one or two sittings. I guess knee jerk emotionalism, indignation and short-term-memories are staple diets in our subcontinent, so this nation with potential seems doomed to swing from one end to the other every decade.
July 9, 2012 12:35 am
I think in the absence of any other choice, Imran is the best option.Democracy is never perfect.In Bihar we have a reasonably good chief minister who is secular but is in power with the support of BJP.Give him a chance.
July 8, 2012 10:56 pm
Naive are the voters like yourself of Pakistan who keep old dynasties in power ... They are think as two short planks that they can't see someone who has contributed and achieved something versus someone who has looted the country.
Tariq K Sami
July 9, 2012 3:53 am
Imran has a deep understanding of "Insaaf" and he often talks of "rahm". I think he is about to bring a real change in the understanding of Islam. I remember reading his article in Dawn when he was no where near politics probably in the early 89-90's where he talked about a Islam as a religion of love and compassion more than a set of do's and dont's.
July 9, 2012 9:32 am
you are right
July 9, 2012 12:04 am
One big difference. In India there are no craven parties like JI, JUI, DIfa-e-Pakistan and several hate groups masquerading as political parties.
July 9, 2012 12:00 am
My fears exactly. Observing Mr. Khan for some time.......... He has no solutions; he does not have a plan that he has published as to how he will improve the economy; he has not said what his foreign policy is; he has not said how he is going to change Pakistan's isolation in the community of world nations; how will he cahnge it's pariah image; he has not laid out any plans how he would deal with the US; he has not laid out any plans how he intends to deal with India and improve realtions which is more vital to Pakistan than India; he has not said any thing about how he woould eradicate the scurge of terrorism in Pakistan which is strictly the product of Pakistan. BOTTOM LINE : HE HAS SAID NOTHING EXCEPT THAN TELLING PEOPLE THAT THE WOULD MAKE EVERY THING RIGHT. JUST TRUST ME. SO FAR HE IS A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
July 9, 2012 1:32 am
you are funny!!
July 9, 2012 1:15 am
Again not original .......this quote is also copied from American president.Why can you think original.......?????
July 9, 2012 1:12 am
Point taken but literacy rate in India is over 74%!!
Syed Kashif Nawaz
July 8, 2012 11:35 pm
I fully agree with the writer. Being a Political Analyst a see a complete Chaos behind such alliances. Either PTI itself will have to pay the price or its workers will be the victim out of such alliances. Please visit: Jamat-e-Islami Finds New Shoulders to Climb onto:
July 8, 2012 11:50 pm
Captain Mansur, I salute you.
July 9, 2012 1:58 am
Some great comments - Pro & Con. Forget for a minute about Imran Khan, the left & the right, liberal Vs conservative. Concentrate on the fact (does any ne denies it?) that Pakistan has been dragged in to hte low abyys of Hell by these craven fundamentalists. Any one who ties with them will eventually tow their line. The Fundamentalists claim to fame is that they are not corrupt. They are honest. I would rather have a corrupt, incompetent guy rather than an honest craven, religious biggot governing me because I disagree with him I am likely to be killed. If Imran is willing to deal with the devil today to get the power, what else will he be willing to do to hang on to the power?
Farhat Anwer
July 8, 2012 12:51 pm
well media has educated the masses to know about their politicians and the people of Pakistan specially the young educated ones are well aware and know who is the right person to select for their service in future. I am sure that as IK is following the foot steps of Quaid and Allama he is moving to the right direction and one day he will change the fate of Pakistanis, INSHA ALLAH.
July 8, 2012 8:58 am
We expect from PTI to be a vibrant political party not a dogmatist, If we look at the background and history of JI, it has been an ideologue with dogmatic ideals. It wants to use democracy as tool to get power and enforce their dogmas through force. I am doubt how PTI will manage to work with such party and balance its policies. We should not only see that JI is not indulged in corruption but we have to consider it a political democratic is its outlook. My suggestion is simply that PTI should not make alliance with JI...rather it should work with other MQM, ANP etc...
July 8, 2012 11:12 pm
Imran khan has turned into Imran Con after his "rebirth" as a "pious" man. He had more honesty and ethics when he was a womanizer.
July 8, 2012 6:31 pm
If I had the right that an ordinary citizen of United States has, I would have given you a thumbs up instead of a thumbs down.
Yemeen Zuberi
July 8, 2012 6:29 pm
I fully agree with Mohtashim. Only the people who are left uneducated know the value of education; and those who are deprived of basic necessities know their requirements, problems and also solutions for them. I would suggest in next elections people must vote for the representatives of have-nots; who are in majority, too, but the moneyed ones never let them come to power.
July 8, 2012 6:22 pm
I was very impressed with Imran Khan and for a moment thought of joining his party, putting aside my aversion for political parties but when he joined fasicst JI whom I knew very well, my hopes vanished. Imran Khan is a show-boy of JI.
July 8, 2012 6:19 pm
NFP, you have written on every right wing politican and every conservative force on country. Why don't you comment on PPP's anti democratic ways of appointing a party president based on their dead leader's will and also her son as a co chairperson. What has the current PPP government given to the people of Pakistan?
July 8, 2012 6:07 pm
if pti is a test tube baby of the deep state,which is quiet evident, next episode is to get by hook or crook a care taker government obedient to the deep state in order to get clean sweep for pt. history repeating once again.pity!!!
July 8, 2012 6:10 pm
Imran Khan is honest? Do you know the meaning of honesty? Pakistan is in trouble mainly due to idiots like you
July 8, 2012 6:01 pm
Dear Capt Mansur. I am intrigued by your response. Which part of the right wing BJP which was in power in India for several years is secular? As far as respect for minorities is concerned what do you make of ritualistic subversion of the 'Muslim' other that is taking place in Kashmir as we speak? What of leftist liberals who dare to speak against the deep state such as Arundhati Roy and are threatened with sedition? Please take your misguided ethos of Indian freedom, liberation and democracy elsewhere in a world where visions of glorious shining India conceal the dark underbelly of poverty, civil war and suppression. As for 'masses' being 'illiterate' and therefore misusing the 'gift' of democracy which they are clearly unworthy of, this heavy handed judgement is disturbingly reminscent of our colonial masters who were convinced that us natives were not 'ready' for 'freedom.
A. Nasir
July 8, 2012 6:00 pm
Imran is NOT a leftist. He may be honest and brave but will need to display more maturity and less self-righteous indignation if he is to go anywhere. His contempt for one a sundry is alarming. I wish him luck. If the people elect him, right or left he has the right to a term in office. Something he ironically doesn't wish to allow others. Also, he needs to be less naive about the ambitions of the chief justice who wants and will want to control everything.
July 8, 2012 5:57 pm
NFP always love to comment on Imran Khan. Since Lahore jalsa and even before that I was criticizing IK for one or the other reason. He has problem with everything he does. Plus he writes more on PTI than any other party. Come on Sir... try find topics other than PTI. Having destruction all around, at least we have hope from someone
M N Syed, USA
July 8, 2012 5:57 pm
Change for survival of Pakistan and it's poor masses. Can one hope this from any other part than PTI.First condition for this is winning ,election with support of. Clean politicians.. Next election It is a matter of life and death for Pakistan.The stakes in future of Pkistan are maximum for youth. I appeal to Young school and college students to spread their voice. ,through out Pakistan specially country side villages. They should start planning and mobilizing for approaching each and every villager to give them courage to revolt against waderas, chaiudhries and sardars It was due to efforts of Aligarh University students in 1946 that Frontier Province (KPK ) acceded to Pakistan.Students spread through out KPK and approached each individual to vote for Pakistan
Muhammad Ahmed
July 8, 2012 5:57 pm
I will first like to detail some key misdeeds of JI. It should be partially blamed for 1953 riots, it should be partially blamed for being part of Nau Sitara coalition, it should have a major blame for radicalizing the student politics in 1980s and it should definitely be blamed for forming alliance with both Zia and Musharaf regimes. This being stated, please also focus that their level of blame is no different from any other political entity in Pakistan. History is indeed a mixture of grey elements and I seriously doubt that JI, PTI, PPP, PMLN , PMLQ, ANP, BNP, MQM or any other main stream political party is completely clean. It almost seems via NFP writings that greyness seems fine when other players are involved but in your face blackness belongs to JI elements. It might not hurt to see some additional information for the events that have been cited. Let us deconstruct 1953 riots where root cause is attributed to two memos circulated by Madudi (founder of jamaat e Islami) declaring Ahmadis as heretics. It is declared per the report from justice Munib that JI was among the main instigators of that violence and was not the sole instigator. I will not argue that JI was a key component but their members were rarely among the murderers which were led by local mobs. The mob mentality since partition days was quite fresh in those days and it was pretty common in terms of communal riots. There are multiple versions of the events depending upon who is telling the story. People rarely mention how situation was used for the benefit of establishing army authority in the region. It is also amazing that how judiciary was able to sentence two key ulema to death sentence without any sort of trial and I never see any objection related to that sentencing from so called liberal historians. I will like to highlight the strength of JI in East Pakistan. It was indeed the second most popular party after Awami league and in majority of the seats Awami League was neck to neck with JI candidates in East Pakistan during 1970 elections. The so called militias in East Pakistan which were based on JI Razakaar(Volunteer ) was mostly serving as non combatants. My father who became a POW during the war of 1971 clearly remembers that how many of these youngsters were considered not man enough by JCOs for their non military training and were usually helping out the army in setting up the trenches, working as medical volunteers and setting up minefields. I think it is an unfair assessment to blame JI for actions of Pakistan army during war of 1971. It is important to see that JI was not leading the Nau Sitara coalition which started the riots against Bhutto. It should share the blame with the whole coalition which had similar composition like MMA. The actual verdict in Bhutto’s case came out of an army dictator’s actions. I think blaming JI for that would be a ridiculous notion.
July 8, 2012 5:43 pm
Ask not what the Country can do for you Ask what you can do for the Country
Syyed Nazim. CHICAGO
July 8, 2012 5:39 pm
People party has pushed Pakistan to a failing state. Pakistan Muslim Leatgue all factions have been tried. there are too good things about JI they are organized, a good force of workers, and non corrupt. imran Khan main concern is corruption and good governance. Ji will be good support for PTI in winning election and running government there after. Islamic parties all over the world have gone through great changes, I am shire JI too has learnt lesson. I wish the ,alliance goes through successfully
July 8, 2012 5:28 pm
Your articles reek of intellectual arrogance. Khan knows nothing about politics - but with all the intellect and knowledge of the world possessed by one genius, Mr. NFP, it is determined that PPP is the party without mistakes, errors, corruption, failures, intra-party shamocracy, dynastic politics, cult of personality. I would give weight to your assessment if you had come to a conclusion that Zardari is the man of the hour. Please.
July 8, 2012 5:24 pm
right now we are ruled by so called leftist party and we all know, what they did. IK idea is correct to make collaboration with non corrupt parties. Now it is not the time of left or right it is time to save Pakistan
Karachi Wala
July 8, 2012 4:58 pm
Which facts that NFP has mentioned in this article make you think that he is v v biased?
Capt Mansur
July 8, 2012 4:36 pm
Mohtashim in India it works because the religion is not the first prioity. It is a secular state where all minrorities are respected. We Pakistanis KILL a Governor because he recognises the RIGHT of Minority. In short we USE religion to misguide people where as India does not. Masses being illetrate are easily mislead.
July 8, 2012 4:14 pm
If you ride over donkey then NFP will criticize you against animal rights, if the donkey rides over you then he will still laugh over you. He is even not convince with the creation of world and have some suggestion for even God to make things better..Poor Imran khan is only the victim of his madness but nothing else....
July 8, 2012 4:02 pm
Just when everyone thought that they had a good decent honest leader in the future Imran Khan drops this bomb shell what is this man on why get in to bed with the mad mullahs, he can stand on his own very dissapointed in his decision someone needs to have a word with him, i dont even live in Pakistan and even i can see how wrong this is. Come on Imran Khan wake up and stop acting like a fool.
Syed Ali
July 8, 2012 3:53 pm
@Tariq You missed out the the thickest of layers: Naivety.
July 8, 2012 3:52 pm
Reverse Khan or Inverse Khan,failed to understand the objective of writing this article. Unfortunately, our media houses have vested interests& so do the writers.Sorry to say that we have divided the Nation into right & left 0n paper by so called intellectuals whereas the ground reality different.We must never play with the feelings of others,and learn to live together or will perish,
S Danial
July 8, 2012 3:52 pm
It is said Tariq Ali is becoming senile.
July 8, 2012 11:14 am
The point about consolidating right-wing votes is all well but the author failed to mention the other implication of this awkward alliance; many young liberal-minded voters will be put off by this going back to the far right by PTI. IK must have compared the gain and the loss and decided the gain outweighed the loss but I think otherwise. I am definitely dissuaded especially after having watched first-hand the hypocrisy of JI and IJT. PTI is now surely one vote poorer. Not sure where that vote is going yet.
An Observer
July 8, 2012 11:13 am
Imran Khan is the latest hypocrite on the political scene of Pakistan wanting everybody to believe that he is going to be their saviour. Alas, he will let down the citizens very badly. He appears to be a confused person with simplistic and impractical solutions to complex problems of Pakistan.
July 8, 2012 11:01 am
Either a person is liberal or conservative, both are different forms of extremism. World history tells us, a moderate person becomes a great leader. Our everyday experience shows us, that a moderate person can get the success of this world. Words like liberals, conservatives, leftists, rightists, etc., have coined by the west to indulge the poor countries in baseless and useless discussion
Ali Haza, Quetta
July 8, 2012 10:17 am
Although PTI has emerged as a natiional political party, yet the party's chief Khan is not having a stance clear on his relations/sympathies for Taliban and other politco-religious parties. the latest development is realy wondering...
logic Europe
July 8, 2012 8:57 am
a party that comes to power on protest vote is never able to deliver mr khan has no real base anywhere in the country so to find some solace in the lap of step motherly JI is understandable the next govt will be a coalition again as no one will become a junior ally to IK , not ppp not PMLN not anp the dreamers will wake upto reality
Haroon Khan
July 8, 2012 8:44 am
PS 1. I am NOT a PTI supporter 2. I don't have a problem with a concept originating from the west. I have a problem insisting on applying a concept in Pakistan where it clearly is not applicable. At least make an effort to read what someone has said before replying to it. DO not make half baked assumptions about who people are because they disagree with your point of view.
July 9, 2012 3:56 am
amir.saeed it is said that consistancy is itself a miracale in one's life.nadeem paracha is doing his job with that consistancy.puting off veil from the faces of hypocrates needs a continues effort.
Tariq K Sami
July 9, 2012 3:58 am
Imran has lost his sons,the mother took them away. Same like Qaid e Azam lost his daughter. All great men have to deal with such family tragedies,and we ought to wish him well. It is cruel for us to pass such judgements.
July 8, 2012 7:41 am
Well said Rai Hammad. What choice do we have. Elect same corrupt lot that have delivered nothing or take a chance with PTI. I will take my chance with PTI. Only God knows if Imran Khan will prove better but his past shows he is honest, tireless and a real fighter. He is my hero. It does not matter to me if he makes a political alliance with JI or not. I just cant vote for PPP or PML N. I am concerned about my kid's future and cant sit out this election.
July 8, 2012 11:26 am
i understand nadeem paracha is a jiyala of ppp.. rather talking about ji and pti wouldnt it be better if he also commented on the love affair between jui f and ppp I consider myself as a liberal and my vote will go to ik because it is a matter of choice i have to use my vote for the betterment of pakistan and i see no option other than Imran Khan
Syed Ali
July 8, 2012 9:17 am
So, Zoaib, you are saying that Khan is an economic leftist but social rightist? Sounds like Stalin.
July 8, 2012 9:20 am
100% agree with author imran is totally shameless person who takes U turn on what ever he has said
July 8, 2012 11:30 am
Many people are paranoid by the power of establishment.they cannot or donot want to see the change which is imminent to come.
July 8, 2012 11:30 am
To those who call themselves the "real true liberals" and say they have lost hope on ik please can you u tell us who will you vote for ppp musharraf or rather like always you people wont vote....
July 8, 2012 11:28 am
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. " Charles Darwin Time to change your old and fruitless leftist and rightist ideology.The choice is between haves and have nots. Mr.NFP.
July 8, 2012 12:18 pm
I think from the very begining IK is a religious fanatic, he always have soft corner for Taliban, he never condemned suicide bombing, his political mentor was Hameed Gul, and if still some people are surprised on his future alliance with JI, then god save Pakistan from this youth. Don't think that I am a supporter of Nawazoo or Zardaroo, but I have no hope with the democracy in Pakistan, Mush was far better then these politicians, there is nothing wrong in Monarchi, and one man rule, the only thing what we need is an honest and sincere leader, which I am sure will not come via election. Open your eyes, many countries in this world progressed under dictators China, New Russia (under Putin), South Korea, Singapur, Cuba, Dubai, Kuwait etc...
July 8, 2012 2:51 pm
this party wants to get into power quickly and did not want to wait and evolve so it can become a party that wanted to challenge status quo. for that they needed support of the 'bankable" candidates therefore you have mix bag of same people and ideologies
July 8, 2012 12:08 pm
NFPs articles have been v v biased.
Capt Mansur
July 8, 2012 12:08 pm
I agree with NFP, Rai, Cheema and Ali as well. All are CORRECT. No use pointing fingers as each other. Democracy is only good where atleast 50% of masses are educated, unfortunatley Pakistan is way way behind. No leader Imran or PPP or Nawaz broup or the JI etc can solve the problems. Pakistan needs education and job security to survive. No one can provide this except a good and clean Administrator or Dictator. Sorry to say but hat is the way for Pakistan in my humble opinion.
Tariq K Sami
July 8, 2012 1:58 pm
Imran is a anti-imperialist nationalist. His is influenced by Tariq Ali. So what he did is a lot similar to many who have seen the West closely and rebelled against it. Examples : Jinnah,Ghandi, Jose Rizal,Ho chi Minh, Nkrumah, Ben Bella and many other freedom fighters.
July 8, 2012 2:55 pm
JI is the most left...yes. they left many dead in their path to "glory"
July 8, 2012 1:54 pm
Can you explain why it works in India where much less than 50% of the masses are educated?
Karachi Wala
July 8, 2012 1:48 pm
Very well said Ali Khan. NFP may be a leftist, and has a soft corner for PPP, it does not change the facts and history of Jamat e Islami. If one looks at their recent history, while Mr. Munawwar Hussain and Qazi Hussain Ahmed are raising anti West Particularly anti US slogans, at the same time, they are either openly siding with Taliban or making excuses for their barbaric acts.
July 8, 2012 2:19 pm
for me JI is a ideology , in which you can twist turn for benefits but for other people there is only one rigid law.. You can accuse America for everything and ready for go street anytime against US. in Pakistan. But you will go US for own benefits. IK love Jirga System and Islamic State for Pakistani People , but for his Kids he prefer western society. I think this is perfect alliance.
Tariq K Sami
July 8, 2012 2:22 pm
I think Imran is a Leftist. I know and he has acknowleged it himself that he admires Tariq Ali. Besides its hard to see a centerist Pathan. They go to either extreme. Also they admire and respect each other(Qazi Hussain Ahmad),its just comes naturally to a superior race. Most of all he is brave and honest and that is what Pakistan needs. I am a Bihari and I will vote for him.
July 8, 2012 1:23 pm
NFP...Plz calculate the total amount disbursed through BeNazir Income support program....and divide by Rs. 3000 per family and count the number of votes. The PPP had purchased voters in advance. The MNAs and MPAs keep ID cards of these voters in their possession. No hope. You may want to generate a new liberal force group to take over as transitional government. hope......
Farhat Anwer
July 8, 2012 1:10 pm
but sir IK needs aliance to win the elections as it is a system. We must test the new blood as we have already tested N & P many a times. Sir if you had a chance to lesson to the solutions proposed by IK you will definately realise them as practical ones. As you see motorway is followed by the rules of law and every body except some professional law breakers follow the trafic rules. It is actually the implementer who make us follow the rule of law. It is also the part of Pakistan but the moterway police slected on marrite has the liberty to exersie the law without any discrition.To implement the rules takes little time to exercise if there is will. And the IK has the will to work for Pakistan.
July 8, 2012 12:59 pm
All this right and left talk is irrelevant and an attempt to undermine the struggle of IK against the corrupt ruling elite. Bottom line is, the issue is not right and left, the issue is right and wrong. If zardari and altaf are our country's 'left', than God bless this nation. But since we are on the topic, i would like to say that if anyone is a true left and a true liberal, it's IK. For me, PTI is left because it talks about eliminating poverty, having equal rule of law for the rich and poor, eliminating corruption, increasing tax collection, reforming health and education ,having equal rights for all citizens irrespective of religion, race and color, amongst a whole bunch of other things
July 8, 2012 2:38 pm
There is a vast vote bank who are looking up to IKhan to offer some hope for all those millions that have been let down by the usual political elite who just care about them selves once they get into power. IK has the ability to make it the number on spot without having to get in bed with parties of the Mullahs and by dancing with them now he is sending out all the wrong signals to the aspiring voters. PTI want to implement Islamic welfare system well and good, see it in action as adapted by Scandinavian countries in northern Europe (sadly not applied or used in any of the Muslim states) but then that also requires that every working person paying their fair dues in taxes! What scares me is that PTI is attracting 'tainted' defectors from other failed parties who will hijack all that IK stands for and we will be back to square one! To offer confidence IK should appeal to the eligible Pakistani expats who are in that line of work overseas (which there are very capable millions) to recruit them to give backbone to PTI and thus not rely entirely on corrupt ones from within Pakistan.
Naeem Quresshi
July 8, 2012 3:47 am
What a disappointment for those hoping for a more progressive outcome
July 8, 2012 4:16 am
I agree with NFP except his opinion of breaking PPP vote bank by IK. Most of the PPP voters live in rural areas have bread and butter of PPP sympathy by their parents and I think will not change their loyalties instead they will prefer to stay at home. so I think writer should revisit his observation.
Karachi Wala
July 8, 2012 4:20 am
When after years of struggle Imran emerged as a viable candidate, one saw some sort of light at the end of the tunnel. But, looking at Khan's political maneuvering over the past few months, it seems like an engineless train running full speed to blow everything good in the way. It is so sad to see the beginning of the end of a rare true Heroes Pakistan has produced. The history of JI and other so called religious party is an open secret for all to see. If Khan insists on having any kind of affiliation with JI or any of the group NFP has mentioned the writhing is on the wall.
July 8, 2012 4:27 am
In a hypothetical case that Imran Khan manages to form a government with such alliances in the upcoming elections, he may root out the economic corruption to an extent but harnessing the right-wing forces albeit small on vote banks would inevitably push Pakistan deeper into social chaos in all its forms. There are many challenges that are yet to be taken head-on with a cohesive national policy before its too late against religious extremism, sectarianism, bigotry, public lynchings for alleged blasphemers that are tearing the social fabric of our society. We can't expect such a government to overhaul the mindsets and curriculums in schools that continues to infect our roots by distorted historical facts and applauding acts of morally corrupt scoundrels in the illusion of a bright National & Islamic history. I'm sure NFP would have more to say on this and thus invite him to pen down his thoughts on this issue
Agha Ata
July 8, 2012 4:38 am
I always thought JI and Imran Khan were poles apart; now I see that they both are identical, just poles! I wonder if Quaide Azam would have approved of this alliance.
July 8, 2012 4:49 am
>> Of course, Khan’s political naïveté and his simplistic (if not entirely selective) understanding >> of the country’s political history have never been a secret, so let’s just leave his reading of the JI at that. It does take some one with a "naive and simplistic understanding of country's political history" to know another with similar traits.
July 8, 2012 4:54 am
lolz... What a LIE!!!!!!!... NO electoral alliance was discussed. The discussions were only about the judiciary..
July 8, 2012 4:55 am
well written but want to add a few lines. Imran would do best to remain away from the groups mentionred in the article. The country is surely going to have a two party system or two groups of parties which is a good omen. Mature democracies, have just two parties ,US, UK, Italy Japan all have evolved into two parties systems. Even India , over time, is becoming a system of having alliances of different parties.and that is good for the system. Imran would do well to have a solo flight as he has been doing for the last 16 years and wait for his rightful place in politics. He should be aware of the dangers of playing in the hands of agencies as well.
jack shah
July 8, 2012 5:05 am
As a social liberal my vote will go to ik. While u see ji, i see asad umar. As an educated Pakistani i see no viable options to the left. I also see good leftist policies (taxes + welfare state). I also see incredible honesty. I think ik knows i am in the bag and is now doing some smart politics.
July 8, 2012 5:21 am
pakistan is a a monumental disaster.
July 8, 2012 5:29 am
Khan and disgusting politics...PTI seems to amaze me...i knew from the begining that they are another party of establishment and prone to Mullah Alliance...
tariq ahmad
July 8, 2012 5:33 am
thank you Mr NFP for writing on this subject,imran was my only hope but when i saw him shoulder to shoulder with ji,i was very disappointed,he is doing a big mistake he will lost all his liberal supporters.
July 8, 2012 6:04 am
NFP has a point that PTI alliance with JI is basically centre right vote grab ... the only party to suffer from it is going to be noon league
Amer Ali
July 8, 2012 6:08 am
Good piece. I'm not surprised by Khan. As NFP rightly puts it, Khan has a naive soft-spot for religious groups. It will be his downfall in the long run. He's become an embarrassment for those who are trying to market him as a progressive.
July 8, 2012 6:11 am
Two party system is failing in India - both UPA and NDA are not expected to win the next election - it is becoming Regional - Federal - grass root
Mustafa Razavi
July 8, 2012 6:17 am
Keep calling it a reverse tsunami, it would wash you out anyhow.
July 8, 2012 6:33 am
Rai Hammad
July 8, 2012 6:34 am
we r sick of this,rightist and leftist.Our past generation including the writer gave us this sick thought of rightist and leftist,liberal and conservative but in fact there is only one partition and that is "poor and wealthy...strong and weak...elite and red indians".In our country leftist altaf hussain and asfand yar wali are of same group as rightist maulana fazlurehman and ch shujatt hussain.So where are rest of us....we are like red indians born for nothing and die for nothing. Mr NFP this time we will not tolerate this blackmailing of your generation.Your generation spoiled there whole life following this ideology and look what you have leftist asif zardari at the place of ZA Bhotto andrightist Maoulana fazl At the place of mufti mehmood.What a shame of your generation thet you bleak our future in this country but we will lot compromise on the future of our childern.We will go against our fathers and families to vote for a right man whether he is religious or secular,........No to rightist leftist theory
Karachi Wala
July 8, 2012 2:43 pm
Mr. Pakistani, point out few U turns that NFP has taken.
July 8, 2012 6:47 am
Let me admit that I was one of those too who genuinely thought Imran will bring about a progressive change and it got me all back interested in changing political horizon of Pakistan for better. But the mere sight of him being with JI thugs disgusted me and Imran Khan HAS LOST MY VOTE. I believe I understand Pakistan's history and these religious bigots’ roles in destabilizing it much better than Imran. Only if he knew what they had done to my beloved Pakistan since its creation. I am so sad and dejected in losing my faith in Imran as like millions others I so badly needed someone to step up and lead the nation. And, I am very doubtful that Imran is not the ONE. Thanks for highlighting this as I find your analysis dead right. The only thing I may still argue is that in my opinion if by coming close to these fundamentalists brings some votes to Imran and PTI, he would lose many times more, progressives like myself by doing that and he has done just that. I still hope and pray that Imran and his leadership team change their mindset and do away with these terrorists and bigots. God bless Pakistan!
July 9, 2012 5:48 am
You seems on correct thought but i see little chances of Imran coming even 5th position rather coming in power. Provided his links to ISI, Jewish lobby, and ignoring founders of his own party and taking in lootas and seat winners made him exposed.
July 9, 2012 7:20 am
You're clearly missing the point of the article. There is no need to be rude. If you don't understand something, ask again.
July 9, 2012 7:23 am
Which fact that NFP has mentioned in this article make you think that he is unbiased?
July 9, 2012 7:24 am
Mr Khan might be honest but he is showing people dreams that he cannot fulfill. And he knows that! So keep a hold on with your opinions about his honesty until after he has spent some years in power.
July 9, 2012 7:40 am
Pakistan needs democratic institutions that respond to people's needs. Such institutions take time to evolve out of successive democratic governments. A "clean" dictator or administrator can never achieve that. Neither can bigoted religious party leaders. And Education and Job Security are not the only needs of the people.
Amir Saeed
July 9, 2012 9:03 am
But somehow his guns are aimed at hypocrisy in only one direction. He should turn his attention to the hypocrisy in his so-called left also. Please see the comment below by Mr. Alvi where he says ''NFP, you have written on every right wing politican and every conservative force on country. Why don't you comment on PPP's anti democratic ways of appointing a party president based on their dead leader's will and also her son as a co chairperson. What has the current PPP government given to the people of Pakistan?''
Karachi Wala
July 9, 2012 9:21 am
All the facts he has mentioned about JI and her sister religious parties and groups.
M ilyas safi
July 10, 2012 9:49 am
how could you say that??Imran is the only hope 4 pakiess...and he is a true leader
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