California shooter studied at Al-Huda institute: teacher
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MULTAN: The woman who, with her husband, shot dead 14 people in California last week attended one of the most high-profile religious teaching centres for women in Pakistan, a teacher at the Al-Huda institute told AFP Monday.
Tashfeen Malik, 29, studied at the Al-Huda Institute in Multan, which admits middle-class women and also has offices in the US, the UAE, India and the UK, the teacher at the teaching centre who gave her name only as Muqadas said.
"It was a two-year course, but she did not finish it," the teacher Muqadas said. "She was a good girl. I don't know why she left and what happened to her."
The teacher did not say when Malik studied at the Al-Huda institute, but fellow classmates at the Bahauddin Zakariya University said she had attended the institute after classes at the university, which she attended from 2007-2013.
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Farhat Hashmi’s organisation, Al-Huda institute, has no known extremist links, though it has come under fire in the past from critics who say its ideology is extremist in nature.
Malik and her husband Syed Farook, 28, went on a killing spree at a social services centre in San Bernardino. Investigators suspect that Malik, who went to the United States (US) on a fiancee's visa and spent extended periods of time in both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, may have radicalised her husband.
The probe is trying to establish if she had contact with radicals in either country.
An administration official at the academy in Multan said he could neither confirm nor deny that Malik had studied there, and said he would discuss the issue with management.
"But we have nothing to do with it (the shooting) and are not responsible for our students' personal acts," he added.
One of Malik's former classmates at the Bahauddin Zakariya University in Multan, where she studied pharmacology, told AFP she had attended the institute after classes, saying she "drastically changed" during her time there.
"Gradually she became more serious and strict," said the student, requesting anonymity.
A second university student who also requested anonymity confirmed the account.
Pakistan has pledged to crack down on religious seminaries suspected of being breeding grounds for intolerance or even fostering extremism, with the country's information minister Pervez Rashid terming them "universities of illiteracy and ignorance". However the government's efforts to rein in madrassas have prompted anger from many clerics.
Also read: California rampage: Female shooter pledged allegiance to IS, report says
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Dec 07, 2015 11:47am
How much her action with harm the nation, she does not know.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:55am
A time for INTROSPECTION by all, to make this global village liveable
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Dec 07, 2015 11:59am
"The probe is trying to establish if she had contact with radicals in either country"
The quotation picked from article is the real story. No one considering they did terror acts in USA, Made Bomb in USA, were Residing in USA, shootings are Norm in USA. The terror act has all links with USA.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:59am
i wonder why the woman is more emphasized. if proved, both are equally responsible for this act of violence.
what are the motives behind this assertion?
or i am being dubious!
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Dec 07, 2015 12:02pm
Will you for God sake stop demonizing this couple, this was a false flag operation http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/06/holes/ they are simply too many questions and the story presented by media does not make sense.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:03pm
A young mind with lot of open spaces can be radicalised by adverse teachings.Normally religious teaching is now a profession and business and these schools to lure financial gains and prominence have been circulating new things which have never been heard in Islam.We must be moderate in our way of life.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:07pm
No matter how much you praise 'Maderssahs'. See this is the result. These institutions need to be regularized and modified.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:09pm
This woman didn't even care about her own baby. Not only did she abandon the 6 month old but the stigma the child will have to live with for all her life.
Its best if it's proven that she and her husband were mentally ill because really nothing else makes sense.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:20pm
@M. Ahmed
Yes brother, it is far easier to live in a make believe world of conspiracies, than face reality. Must be very comfortable there.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:24pm
@M. Ahmed "for God sake stop demonizing this couple".
In the face of overwhelming evidence, 14 dead, many more injured, dozens of eyewitnesses, you claim that this couple is innocent. I do not believe that any amount of evidence will ever be enough to convince of their culpability.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:30pm
Lets blame this on someone else !
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Dec 07, 2015 12:30pm
Mr. Mani they were mentely sick......no proof is required. Islam prohibits harming even animals.
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Dec 07, 2015 12:33pm
is it so easy to brainwash some one who is so well educated... wonder what those extremist can do when a country has colossal illiteracy...God help us... folks..“Is there any point in public debate in a society where hardly anyone has been taught how to think, while millions have been taught what to think?”
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Dec 07, 2015 12:45pm
A woman is transformed when she becomes a mother. there is a great bonding developed in 6 months with her child. the question is ....could she have been under pressure by some monsters? Of course the baby was not in their plan. Some disagreement may have triggered the event a bit too early. The people she shot were those who cared for this family and organized a baby shower.
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Dec 07, 2015 01:02pm
yesterday interior minister chaudhry nisar said she left for suadia arabia 25 years ago, now her class mates tell she attended 2007 session in BZU, and studied at al huda as well.
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Dec 07, 2015 01:06pm
These extremists are just evil and affects the lives of Muslims in US and UK
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Dec 07, 2015 01:10pm
@M. Ahmed Seriously? Pull your head out so you can see reality dude!
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Dec 07, 2015 01:10pm
@Salim She passed a tough exam for her qualification. How can she be mentally sick? She was brain washed by the teachings of EXTREMISTS....so simple. A True Muslim cannot do such acts. Stop these Extremists teachings in Pakistan if you love this country.
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Dec 07, 2015 01:20pm
This has nothing to do with religion or islamic institution, he had an arguments at work many times and took his rage out.
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Dec 07, 2015 01:23pm
Close all institutes which are not registered / regularized. Instructors should have a police check before they start 'teaching' or approaching minors.
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Dec 07, 2015 01:32pm
@Rashed Chughtai A better solution is for the government to invest much much more in education......
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Dec 07, 2015 02:15pm
A reasonable person should avoid from pre-mature determination of the linkage of this inhuman killing. There are many who were studying in the universities of Europe and US, but eventually joined ISIS. Who is to blame then? English Universities? If not, then It is not just and equitable to blame Madrassah or Mosque
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Dec 07, 2015 02:20pm
Its just a matter of time when the US investigators will expose the radical factories in Multan. Till then its better to remain in denial.
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Dec 07, 2015 02:31pm
They are eye witnesses who saw 3 white males with in military fatigues with weapons fleeing the scene after the shooting http://www.nbcnews.com/video/it-sounded-like-a-gun-range-578218563875
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Dec 07, 2015 02:48pm
@Naved No modification can improve these breeding, festering grounds of pure terror, brainwashing and extremism. The only way to effectively handle it is to completely stop the outside funding or even better to ban them with no exception.
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Dec 07, 2015 02:52pm
Find out the hospital where she was born. May be it can provide some links also.
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Dec 07, 2015 02:54pm
From all the comments it is evident that we are our own worst enemy. No comments required. Let the investigations take place to see what went wrong.
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Dec 07, 2015 03:01pm
Time to look close down Al-Huda
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Dec 07, 2015 03:11pm
@confused you can expect such statements from the Govt top brass without analyzing facts
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Dec 07, 2015 03:17pm
time for real introspection.
time to identify soft infrastructure of extremism.
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Dec 07, 2015 03:17pm
Farhat Hashmi is one of the few sane voices in Pakistan and must be spared of any kind of mud-slinging.He is doing wonders as far as Islamic education of women is concerned.
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Dec 07, 2015 03:22pm
Where from did she matriculate? We should ban that school.
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Dec 07, 2015 03:23pm
Farhat Hashmi was never a good news...she would conduct seminars at 5 star hotels in Karachi and attract all the ladies from the upper class of our society... I wonder who was financing her seminars?
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Dec 07, 2015 03:27pm
Close such institutions where terror is taught
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Dec 07, 2015 03:32pm
@yawar The man was AMERICAN-Pakistan . I hope that answers your question which was very valid indeed !
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Dec 07, 2015 03:40pm
All the religeous institutes must be fully monitered by the state and the one not to the full standard must be shut.
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Dec 07, 2015 03:47pm
@Naved Your thinking is so naive, what your saying is equal to if a person studies at Harvard and commits the same act then Harvard should be responsible for that persons actions and should be regulated the same way you intend to regularize Madressahs, Brother wake up smell the coffee and listen its all WESTERN DRAMA and propaganda to humiliate Muslims and you my friend are doing exactly what the West wants us to do..
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Dec 07, 2015 03:52pm
Everyone studies somewhere, has a religion, and belongs to a country. If he/she carries out such an act due reasons known to him/ her; does that mean the concerned school, religion, and country are all involved?
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Dec 07, 2015 03:53pm
@IP
Why should country be blamed?
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Dec 07, 2015 03:55pm
@AA IF the same was done by a Harvard Grad then we should ban that University as well please dont be so naive a persons actions are his or her own actions no one institute is responsible for it and IF Al-Huda was preaching terrorism then it would have never existed in US, Canada, and UK etc. So please understand this this is only Western Drama aimed at humiliating Muslims thats it
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Dec 07, 2015 03:56pm
@Naved
It is not Madrassahs, Sir. In which Madrassah did white Christian shooters in US study?
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Dec 07, 2015 04:01pm
Ashamed because she gave a bad name for
Her country...
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Dec 07, 2015 04:08pm
well astonished to see ..people really have no idea about Al-Huda and they want to blame the institution. do u really have listened Dr. Farhat Hashmi ?
she doesnt teaches extremism or violence... as far as i know!
well individual crimes should not accuse the dignity of an institution. there have been oxford,harvad graduates who turned to be criminals, well nobody requests to shut them down???? why dont u apply same rules here.. i am a muslim? atleast i know islam is peace!!!
kindly think once before posting a comment anywhere,
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Dec 07, 2015 04:11pm
@AA
And having seminars in 5 star hotels is a problem because?
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Dec 07, 2015 04:23pm
ALHUDA International is the best religious educational institute for women in Pakistan. Its educational standard is at par with any University. it caters the educational needs of middle and upper class women.
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Dec 07, 2015 04:24pm
No proof to state the couple did this.
The U.S. did this attack and blaming innocent Pakistani couple.
Where is the proof.
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Dec 07, 2015 04:29pm
Any institution in Pakistan that teaches extremist views should be investigated by the Pakistan Authorities. There is a video on the internet which claims to be from Lal Masjid Madrassa for girls and it praises the ISIS.
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Dec 07, 2015 04:42pm
As a nation, our top priority should be tackling 'radicalization' with iron hand.
I will country would be back on track within few years.
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Dec 07, 2015 04:51pm
A shut up call for all those who said this is all a fabricated drama by the west and nothing.
Open your eyes and see they are all living around us but we deny.
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Dec 07, 2015 04:57pm
No news of the husband, must be an angel ,just like all Americans!
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Dec 07, 2015 05:05pm
Just for general information; when a person is in the process of immigration, he/she goes through deep background check. And the background check mainly looks into a persons radicalisation, association with certain groups and the activities. Her background check must have been done and it must have taken months, in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. What was checked and found satisfactory in her background? What the media is unable to understand is, that the intention is to rope-in Pakistan. The moment such a false blame is placed at Pakistan, its leaders, followed by the media, become defensive and appologetic. I can assure you, no such blame will be apportioned to Saudi Arabia, where she lived for years before immigrating to the US. And Daesh exists in Saudi Arabia, but not so actively in Pakistan.
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Dec 07, 2015 05:12pm
Does Mr. Nisar Ali Khan know this or cares to know?
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Dec 07, 2015 05:20pm
@Mani Indeed Mani, would a six month old child's mother, married for only two years, do such a thing? It beats commonsence.
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Dec 07, 2015 05:24pm
Misguided couple!
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Dec 07, 2015 05:27pm
The government's efforts to rein in madrassas cannot succeed as long as we have corrupt political leadership. And those who say why Pakistan should be blamed should also look into the aspect that why we do not find Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Russians involved in terrorist related activities and why it is most of the time Pakistanis. Let us mend our way of handling the situation.
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Dec 07, 2015 05:28pm
@M. Ahmed .What are you writing .Two individuals armed to the teeth leaving behind their six months old baby went on a killing spree. Now its up to you to put a religious angle to it.But the way I see it is that these two had some serious issues with society.
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Dec 07, 2015 05:45pm
@Umer he pointed that women that goes to madrassah hardly go to attend seminar arranged in a 5 star hotels.
so the club of rich housewives arrange such functions just to get funding boots without actually delivering material change where its required
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Dec 07, 2015 05:48pm
I wouldnt close all madrassahs down, but government should regulate them regulate them hard. Bring their syllabus at par with national curriculum who refused to, just invalidate its degree, certificate awarding body!
Plus empower intelligence gathering at Police Station level to keep a close watch whats going on in all mosques and madrassahs.
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Dec 07, 2015 05:56pm
@Bilal Sharif dont buy conspiracies all the time! Sometime its better to do reality check.
Pakistan do have overt and covert enemies but act of an individual cant do anything to bring a case against Pakistan
In my personal observation Pakistan has become little intolerant and radicalised in last 20 years. I think the reason behind this is failure of governments to work for better economy and education!
Where in the world you find younger population is less educated compared to older population?
Only current Army is trying to reverse this change that was started by Zia and successive governments just didnt do enough to control or just turned a blind eye towards it as they are scared to face religious backlash from Mullahs that are minting money from foreign paymasters !
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Dec 07, 2015 06:08pm
close all alhuda schools.
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Dec 07, 2015 06:22pm
@AA .Farhat Hashmi is a world known scholar of Islam and has attended top schools in the US. She has established schools in various cities of Pakistan/Canada to teach islam to women. She has online courses for the people who can't attend the school. I have listened to many of her lectures online and did not find any thing which generated hatred toward other faiths. She gets donations from people who want to help in her efforts for the cause of Islam.
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Dec 07, 2015 06:22pm
@naghman so many Alhuda schools in US. Close all such kind of schools here first.
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Dec 07, 2015 06:26pm
@confused : Nisar mentioned that she studied in Pakistan as normally you study first 12 years in SA, and then have to return for further studies.
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Dec 07, 2015 06:27pm
@Iftikhar Husain : and how about Aitcheson college and LSE (London) as Omar Sheikh was educated there?
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Dec 07, 2015 06:57pm
strange no mention where she got the training to use such a sophisticated weapon????FBI may come up with an answer ----in their kitchen?????
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Dec 07, 2015 07:16pm
@Mani I agree.
What faith -- in any higher power -- would compel a mother do what she did to her innocent infant?
The answer is that it was not faith. It was insanity, which is all that ISIS is selling.
That's the "false flag."
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Dec 07, 2015 07:18pm
Another victim of US created IS.
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Dec 07, 2015 07:24pm
ISIS is spreading false Islam to the West! Muslim clerics around the world should warn their followers not to follow their false preachings
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Dec 07, 2015 07:28pm
@M Taimur . Timothy McVeigh Oklahoma bomber of a federal building was a Christian who killed hundreds of small children. Newtown shooter in Connecticut was a Christian who who shot scores of students at a school and so was the case of a Colorado movie theater shooter. what I am trying to tell you is faith or nationality has nothing to do with acts of violence against innocent people
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Dec 07, 2015 07:33pm
@ Bilal Sharif. Baseless arguments. I agree that we can not blame Harvard if their student do terrorist act. Because, Harvard teaches Science, Economics etc.
But in this case, this institute teaches about Religion, and there is always a chance for brain washing in such courses. I am not saying that all Student may get brain washed. But some of them can be affected.
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Dec 07, 2015 07:35pm
@M. Ahmed ....people are unhappy that there secure comfortable lives have been disruoted by theur own.One always blames their own.Such a situation blinds them that they do not want to stand for the other one even if they are innocent.This is how society lives only for thenselves.The society sets their comfort zones.
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Dec 07, 2015 07:40pm
Time to shut down exclusively religious schools. If school does not include main stream science subjects then it must be shut down. Government should take on the mullah brigades once and for all.
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Dec 07, 2015 08:03pm
Dar e Arqam schools are another project for spreading extremism in society. Al Huda is JI inspired. If we cannot silence as rabid a preacher as Abdul Aziz, how can one imagine, that Govt. will move against Al-Huda?
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Dec 07, 2015 08:04pm
Al-Huda in Islamabad is also a breeding ground for female extremists. Government should consider shutting it down !
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Dec 07, 2015 08:05pm
@Attique ALHUDA and other religious schools with modern outlook actually preparing the minds of innocent people to absorb more extremist views they are the nurseries for the more extremist ideologies therefore such religious institute who in guise of modern education imparting extremism should be immediately shut down / sealed if government want to save the remaining Pakistan from the affects of extremism
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Dec 07, 2015 08:05pm
@IP .......yeah these two hurt your comfort zones.Wake up and smell the coffee.Islam is being maligned not by muslims but by enemy of Islam under the guise of invasions and war.I sure would not want the likes of you to be my friends.
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Dec 07, 2015 08:14pm
What subject this al huda institute teach to its students this is also most important.I dont believe in Education system that produce suside bomber terrorist and spread hate för other section Of society. Love peace forgivness honesty hardwork feeling för suffering Of other these are the Basic things which make world batter
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Dec 07, 2015 08:16pm
hate cannot expel hate only love can expel hate.
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Dec 07, 2015 08:32pm
Radical Islamists are teaching an intoxicated ideology that had attracted many young lonely mind. Research reveals that lone actors often combine religious or political grievances with their own personal vendettas to form a way of viewing the world. Time for Pakistan to manage extremist groups within the country.
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Dec 07, 2015 08:35pm
@confused , she did leave for saudia arabia 25 years ago but she ALSO came back to Pakistan. If a pakistani goes to saudi arabia, it doesnt mean he/she cant come back to Pakistan. Her passport was pakistani as saudi arabia never gives citizenships even if a non-arab is born there.
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Dec 07, 2015 09:26pm
Instead of shutting down the religious schools or stop teaching theology, operate them the same way other schools are operating. Make sure only qualified teachers teach in these schools. Define proper qualification requirements and syllabus. Make them a comparative critical study of all religions. Cutoff government funding and run only on charitable funds. You will see results in ten short years.
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Dec 07, 2015 09:35pm
@shyam
Dear. Alhuda teaches politeness and religious harmony. The students in ALHUDA enroll at mature age so there is no question about brain washing of students.
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Dec 07, 2015 09:36pm
We are so coward that after every bad incident we start to explain that we have nothing to do with this, if you observe CNN news videos you will come to know that the police just kill them on road their is no video of incident place where lot of security cameras can record the scene this is just police negligence they killed a women in hijab with her husband just as suspect and complete the investigation by claiming recovery of arms. We are so blind that we believe what ever they say
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Dec 07, 2015 09:53pm
@yawar , they just want to drag Pakistan into it one way or the other.
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Dec 07, 2015 09:59pm
Close the Damn place where the terrorists studied!!
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Dec 07, 2015 10:01pm
Abandoning your child is not being radicalized but it has more to do with being insane. If she had become so serious then according to the code that she was following was it okay to befriend a stranger online .
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Dec 07, 2015 10:17pm
Radicalization is extremely dangerous for anybody. There is no use in eradicating bad people before stopping these madarasas from supporting extremists. Until then new bad people will keep of showing up. Until we come out of denial and start acting we cant completely eradicate them from country.
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Dec 07, 2015 10:36pm
I am still confused. First the witnesses said three guys were shooting, two were bare faced and one was wearing a cloak. Then they became two guys and finally one girl and one guy. This is too confusing. We might never know the truth.
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Dec 07, 2015 10:51pm
These Moulvis have screwed up our country big time.
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Dec 07, 2015 10:53pm
Connections with Al Huda...why am I not surprised. Such institutions push impressionable minds towards extremism knowing or unknowingly. It is imperative that Al Huda should ensure that their centres practice zero tolerance towards violent extremist views. And should condem terrorist attacks and give a public statement.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:14pm
Did she had same life style before married or she changed after married? What kinds of pictures they summited when they applied for fiancee's visa? Did she got a B-pharmacy degree to get a good job in Suadi Aradia ?
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Dec 07, 2015 11:19pm
Apparently the eye witness on CBS news mentioned three "white" males who opened the fire. So the questions arise, as to where those three white males disappeared and why no one is talking about them?
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Dec 07, 2015 11:33pm
The text books used in this particular school should be thoroughly analyzed; as well as the teachings and lectures of teachers. As far as the investigation is concerned it would be done by the FBI, ATF, etc, there is too much pressure on Obama to leave it to Pakistanis. It is interesting if she was pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Pharmacy that requires rigorous studies, where did she find time to pursue religious education; since she was living in Saudi Arabia prior to moving to Pakistan, what other Islamic education she needed. Interesting development; however, before jumping to conclusion let evidence be collected, and see the outcome.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:35pm
@Feroz Looks like you haven't read anything about Snowden - because prior to him providing proofs, people would make fun of you if you dared suggested that all your communications are being monitored.
Logically speaking, being a conspiracy theorist - for lack of a better word - is a safer bet than being foolishly naive.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:52pm
@IP
Let''s not have any sympathy for terrorists. It's not that she was uneducated and was brain-washed as in most cases. In this case she wilfully participated in terror activities, probably trained and very well knew what she was doing. She knew what she was doing would harm the community, humanity and the nation.
People like this should be fully blamed for terror in the world.
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Dec 07, 2015 11:58pm
@M Jamal
Rightly said - Is anyone going after the mind polluters at the Institute? No one has time to do that.
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Dec 08, 2015 12:02am
The pakistani Information Minister Pervez Rashid says that it will crack down on religious Madrasas who are breeding grounds for extremism and terrorists. The quesion is when? In the 25th Century or later?
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Dec 08, 2015 12:04am
Al Huda is an excellent institution, please don't malign a reputed institution for the sake of so call moderate Islam or secularism...
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Dec 08, 2015 12:17am
if the govt had closed down lal masjid seminary and many many like it the world would have been a safer place for all. but the sad part is they won't do anything even now.
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Dec 08, 2015 12:44am
Why are education institutions allowed to teach extremist views? First crack down on them. Ridiculous in this day and age we allow teachings that promote terrorism
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Dec 08, 2015 01:45am
All hate speeches that condone or promote violence, whether at Madrassahs, Mosques, or on the internet, should be banned and the perpetrators should be jailed depending on how serious the crime is.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:01am
No woman act like that she has a six month baby. She did because her husband want to her to do.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:23am
Isn't it about time the government shuts down all these institutions that promote radicalization and intolerance? With these Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. etc., do we really need to allow these extremists to brainwash our youth anymore? Our religion has been misinterpreted in the most extreme way by these uneducated, mentally sick people, whose only motive is to achieve their selfish objectives, at the expense of killing innocent victims, by brainwashing them!
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Dec 08, 2015 02:36am
Credit must be given to Pakistan for reining in all sources that produce terrorism. After the Peshawar massacre, this effort has been stepped up. The Government's efforts to clamp down on Madrassah's preaching extremism has been met with opposition from clerics but, this effort must continue. The whole world is dealing with extremism and Pakistan has a huge task on its hand. We wish Pakistan success
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Dec 08, 2015 03:46am
@sukhera she never went to school in the US. Not even top ones.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:48am
FH never attended college in the US. Not even a good one. She went to one in Scotland and it was not the best.
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Dec 08, 2015 04:17am
This is where our two faced politicians and military fails us. Here is the excerpt from NY Times write up on Ms. Malik;
But neither Multan nor Ms. Malik’s university have been immune to extremist currents. A proliferation of hard-line religious schools across southern Punjab have obtained a reputation as incubators for sectarian and militant groups, some of which enjoy the tacit support of political leaders and elements of the Pakistani security forces.
We as a society have paid a huge price for religious extremism and it is high time we demand action from our politicians and military
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Dec 08, 2015 04:46am
@PATHANOO Patience, my friend. Patience. It's a virtue.
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Dec 08, 2015 05:14am
We learned on December 3 that another person linked to this case is also linked to Al-Huda before the Facebook went off-line.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:41am
@M. Ahmed For heaven's sake, get real and admit for once we have serious problem.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:45am
@Arshad Hussain US Domestic gun related violence like Sandy Hook and others and this one, a couple on rampage is all together different and can only be described rightly as terrorism.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:47am
@Iftikhar Husain But the state is clueless and does not know how to clean its nose.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:57am
@sukhera Every case has its own merits !!
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Dec 08, 2015 06:41pm
@naghman If this is the gauge to close down institutions, then why not MIT USA, IBA, KU and many more??
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Dec 08, 2015 08:55pm
@Naved but Mr Farook was not a Maderassa student. His background should also be checked.
It seems from media reports like the woman alone was guiding person
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Dec 09, 2015 08:05am
Shooting is common & Big problem in America.
American peoples frequently shooting in School, College & Churches, Mostly the world not see the faces of shooters. When shooting committed by Muslims it become
Global,& Religious issue.
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Dec 09, 2015 08:45am
@yawar The guy had AMERICAN nationality , that's why
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Dec 09, 2015 08:47am
Absolutely NO news about the husband . I wonder why would that be ! Where was the husband "radicalized" ?
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Dec 09, 2015 12:46pm
Which institute the *husband* attended ?
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Dec 09, 2015 09:02pm
Everything is suspicious. Why the focus is on women not on his husband? Why the name of her only one institute is on focus? Why they were not caught alive? it was not very difficult to capture them alive. How a women with 6-months baby can do this? She had no criminal record. In today's world, many events are "staged" for specific purpose. After all we are living in the information age and we all know who controls the media?
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Dec 09, 2015 10:55pm
I don't understand, more religious people get, more and more intolerant they become towards other religions. It's true for all religions. Please keep religion at home. It for communication between you and your god, your neighbors, colleagues, friends, even family does not have to be part of it. Keep it very personal please may be then world can live in peace.
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Dec 09, 2015 11:59pm
@tauqeer Your compassion is totally irrelevant! Those people were not radicalized at those English Universities! Had they been, had they been taught all the extremism at the university, then YES, they could have been held responsible!
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Dec 10, 2015 12:05am
@Attique Only children can be brainwashed?
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Dec 10, 2015 12:42am
what are the eye witnesses saying? I have not seen any media reports of that. Did the witnesses recognize the accused?
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