Indian village council orders rape of two sisters for brother's elopement
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An unofficial, all-male village council in India's Uttar Pradesh state has ordered the rape of two young sisters after their brother eloped with a woman of a higher caste, a report published on the Hindustan Times said.
The 'sentence' was handed down after the brother of 23-year-old Meenakshi Kumari and her 15-year-old sister ran off with a married girl belonging to the dominant Jat community.
The tribunal — locally known as a panchayat — also ordered for the sisters to be paraded naked with their faces blackened.
Read: Indian woman gang-raped on kangaroo court orders
After receiving threats, Kumari and her family — who belong to the Dalit caste, also referred to as 'untouchables' — fled their village in UP's Bhagpat district for New Delhi, some 50 kilometres away.
The appalling punishment was brought to light after rights group Amnesty International launched a petition calling for local authorities to intervene immediately and save the girls from being raped.
Amnesty says in the petition: "Nothing could justify this abhorrent punishment. It's not fair. It's not right. And it's against the law."
According to the Hindustan Times report, Kumari filed a petition in India's Supreme Court, seeking protection for herself and her family.
She alleged that local police filed a false narcotics case against her brother, under pressure from the Jat girl's family. Even though he was granted bail by a local court, the family was too afraid to go back to the village to arrange surety documents to get him released.
A Supreme Court bench issued a notice to authorities, asking for a probe into the incident.
Kumari said in the petition that her brother and the girl were in love for the past three years. However, the girl was married off to boy from the Jat community against her wishes.
A month after her marriage, the girl escaped her husband's home and eloped with Kumari's brother. The couple surrendered after alleged torture by the girl's family and UP police.
The girl, who claimed she was pregnant with her lover's child, was sent back to her parents while the boy was detained under a false drug case.
After Kumari's family moved to Delhi, fearing for their lives, their house was allegedly ransacked and taken over by members of the Jat community.
Hindu scriptures separate people into Brahmin priests, warriors, farmers and labourers, while the rest are beyond definition - called Dalits.
These low-caste Hindus were once considered "untouchables", performing the most menial and degrading jobs.
The ancient caste system has persisted in India - mostly in villages — despite the country's economic success and exposure to Western culture which has re-moulded social paradigms in the nation.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:42pm
No words
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Aug 30, 2015 03:46pm
What a Disgrace of Mankind?
Does, India got Independence
For Brahman etc.....
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Aug 30, 2015 03:48pm
Terrible. Casteism is indefensible.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:48pm
These Panchayats in India and Jirgas in Pakistan should be abolished. If the governments do not take actions, Human Rights should pressure them through UN.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:52pm
Modi's India is shinning. the caste system and oppression of minorities is a bigger threat for India than ISI, LeT and Dawood Ibrahim
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Aug 30, 2015 03:59pm
This is the world's largest Democracy. :)
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Aug 30, 2015 04:00pm
And then they talk about Pakistan with so much zeal, stats and facts.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:02pm
What a nonsense & stupid ruling by the panchayat. All members including the leader of this council should be arrested & paraded with their face blackened. Thanks GOD the girls escaped punishment & are safe. Regretfully with little variation same type of idiocy is present here in Pakistan as well, illiteracy is the main cause for such thoughts & actions.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:05pm
Hats off to so called shining, moderate & liberate India! Surprisingly so far no comments from Indian fellows whom food does not digest without intervening into Pakistani news and commenting on negatively.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:08pm
@Syed Ahmad Where is a Bramhan in the picture ? Jats as per caste are like Rajputs a warrior caste.
That said and done it is shameful and condemnable and has no place in modern society.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:12pm
Shining India still lives in 1715 while rest of the world have moved to 2015.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:18pm
"These low-caste Hindus are considered "untouchables", performing the most menial and degrading jobs".
..and they called India a democracy, with medieval caste system, ingrained and intrinsic in the religion and even in the Indian constitution, the democracy is an eye wash in India.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:24pm
This stuff happens in Pakistan and India the difference is Pakistanis understand their country is in a mess but Indians seem to live in this illusion that they are one of the super powers of the world and a modern developed country.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:25pm
How many people knows that caste based system is part of the Indian constitution. They divide humanity between low caste Dalit(untouchable) and high caste Brahmin(rulers). This is apartheid...plain and simple. Indians hide this deplorable fact from the rest of the world, from the west.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:30pm
very sad...you guys have only got independence from British Raj not from Brahman Raj...
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Aug 30, 2015 04:31pm
Democracy is an eyewash and a farce in India. Caste based system and democracy cannot go along.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:35pm
Very unfortunate but this is the true face of 'The Shining India'. CNN also reported today that 590 million people (more than 50 % of the total population) in India defecate in open. Imagine over 40 billion US $ being spent by this country on building up the macho military machine to threaten Pakistan. Wish they spend part of this money on providing justice and suicidal development of their people. Case of misplaced priorities?
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Aug 30, 2015 04:37pm
Brahmins are just 3% of the population in India and they are ruling the whole India and subjugating poor low caste people. Time for India to get the real freedom...
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Aug 30, 2015 04:43pm
No offence, but a question came to my mind after reading above news. What caste Modi belongs to.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:49pm
It is very sad. Is India a safe place for women?
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Aug 30, 2015 04:59pm
people, no one says india is a model country. Taking an isolated incident and painting the whole 1 billion with the same brush is clever? why dont you compare in space tech, healthcare, education where both countries need to reach places. Unfortunately !!!!???
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Aug 30, 2015 05:01pm
Why her brother mess with the upper caste girl? This was going to happen if he did. What he expect?
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Aug 30, 2015 05:06pm
Such embarrassingly barbaric inhumanity against womenfolk is not something like a news but depicts the mentality of sub continent people how they treat their female.
Yes I am hundred per cent agree with the opion that Panchayat, village and so on so-called bodies in India and Pakistan are manipulated by insular-dominnt people who know nothing except darkness to sprankle. Being a human my all sympathies are with thevictims family.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:11pm
@yogesh its a typical upper caste mentality.Thanks for reflecting it here on dawn.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:11pm
@yogesh he did not mess with her by himself. She also participated. And why punished the sisters? They have nothing to do with it.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:12pm
@shank because it's the people that count. Until you can wipe away the social ills that affect 2 little girls it won't matter if you reach pluto.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:16pm
India before making tall claims at global level to declare itself to be world super power must take into account the deteriorating human rights situations within her territorial boundaries...
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Aug 30, 2015 05:17pm
@Zubaida khan well said ms.khan.There was willingness on both side.The sisters were dragged in this only to remind the society that this goona happen to anybody dare to do that what that boy did.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:23pm
no Pakistani Jirga would ever issue such a decree.
only in India sadly
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Aug 30, 2015 05:29pm
The perpetrators must be punished to the full extent of the law to send a message to other ignorant fools that the civil society does not tolerate this type of nonsense any longer.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:36pm
Continued ..
2. ideally speaking, as per scriptures, a Brahmin is not a caste. Its not a race...and its not about one's family. The term "caste" was given by Britishers. There is no caste in Hindu religion. A brahmin is the term for one's fundamental nature, quality and life-style. A person who seeks knowledge ( of all kinds) in his life...who understands that true understanding and right knowledge is like a purifying fire which burns ignorance and ills. That's brahmin. Anyone who has such qualities or who live for such pursuits is a brahmin. In a human body, the head ( Mind) is identified with the Brahmin. Because, a brahmin understands that mind is supreme. All of us respect such people, across cultures, religions and geographies. Einstein, Da vinci...are respected world over.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:37pm
similar shameful episodes against women are common in India and Pakistan. Somehow men involved are not punished.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:46pm
India is still living in Stone Age ... A human tragedy. Just pathetic and disgusting.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:55pm
@Vasudevan Again caste :) it's not going to get out of typical Hindus' head.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:58pm
@yogesh yes lower caste equal non human y
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Aug 30, 2015 06:01pm
There is no caste system in Indian constitution. When India became independent and democratic, there were concerns that people who belong to so called lower castes ( communities, based upon ethnic identities), will not get fair dues, because they have been out of the system for too long. All power, wealth, knowledge...etc are in hands of so called upper castes. So Indian constitution prescribed an affirmative action...to help and support low-caste people. This help come in the form of special laws to protect them, and reservations in education, jobs, political system etc..etc..to help them grow. Initially, the special reservation laws were meant only for 10 years. But due to vote-bank politics nobody tried to remove those laws. Now a lot of communities are calling themselves "low caste" to get those special reservation benefits. The recent unrest in Gujarat by Patel community is also due to that.
Its not what Pakistanis think. Its actually exact opposite to that.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:01pm
@ZUBAIDA KHAN, absolutely agree with you. We are in the process of elimination of all social evils and nobody claims we are a model state. This incident or other social evil has reached out in the open and debated is a win for democracy. Also education = trying to reach mars (or pluto) makes a difference, thats where India triumps .
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Aug 30, 2015 06:04pm
@N.Sid - Brahmins ( Knowledgeable and cultured people) rule world over, since the beginning of time. And they are always in tiny minority. Its law of nature...and its meritocracy. Only way to compete with a brahmin, is to become a brahmin yourself.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:08pm
this happens in Pakistan as well should be stopped. Our region needs to change how people think.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:10pm
Incredible INDIA!!
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Aug 30, 2015 06:16pm
Baba Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar who constructed our constitution was a dalit. He openly said that "Indians today are governed by two different ideologies. Their political ideal set in the preamble of the Constitution affirms a life of liberty, equality and fraternity. Their social ideal embodied in their religion denies them".
He had apprehension about the success of democracy in this vast land. But after 68 years of independence we are progressive society with lots of scope of improvement. India is a huge country with more than 670,000 villages. I have a belief when I look back at the journey of past 68 years that our society is rising and its rise will continue. As an Indian I regret every incident which are against the dream of our forefathers. But we won't sit and watch it. We will change the fate our nation and we are doing it. Work is in Progress....
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Aug 30, 2015 06:18pm
On a lighter note, the guy did a huge mistake, by messing up with a jatt family, specially when it concerns their daughters. Jatts of India, are very strict about lot of things. First, they are strictly vegetarian. They are very very particular about marriage laws and follow it religiously. They would kill their own children, if they go against traditional marriage laws.
Then they are a patriarchal community, where daughters are considered honor of the clan. They have this simple understanding that if you want to know how dignified a family is, know how decent and disciplined their daughters are.
Then they are very much a warrior community, famous for their physical and martial abilities. Dont mess up with jatts. A big mistake.
Hindus have this ritual on 13th day ( tehravi) from a person's death. So they have a saying in india - Jatt mara tab janiye....jyo tehravi hoye.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:19pm
I wonder how would the panchayat leaders' feel if someone ordered the rape of their sisters and daughters?
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Aug 30, 2015 06:21pm
@N.Sid u r totally mistaken. Brahmins r no longer a ruling class. In our parliament u see leaders of all castes. In fact lot of seats r reserved for dal its. This is an unfortunate incident being given a caste color
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Aug 30, 2015 06:22pm
Shameful!
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Aug 30, 2015 06:25pm
OMG! caste system still exist in the age of science & technology. We live in conscience world but still face challenges of dark age.
Pity situation, no words to express pain.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:34pm
Our PM Narendra Modi is from backward caste and he also faced discrimination while he was a tea seller. But the same system made him our PM. So I have belief in our constitution.
Police must take care of these self appointed Panchayats and must uphold the sanctity of our constitution which teaches equality, liberty and fraternity. Our media should report it more and spread awareness. We must revolt like we did for New Delhi gangrape. Our society is changing fast but there are people who are stuck in 20th century. Its 21st century now. As an Indian I condemn these incidents.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:40pm
@Jeetendra Mate we know what Jat's are no need to explain to us, in west Punjab(Pakistan) Jat's are the majority they are land owners , Farmers and make good soldiers also they will kill and die for their honour.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:42pm
How pathetic, if true.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:45pm
It is condemnable act. In any society, whether illiterate caste hindus in India or fundamentalist and Jahils in Pakistan. Let's all fight against this unjust society.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:46pm
@Babu The fact of the matter is when you reserves seat for low caste, SC people..it means there is discrimination and apartheid in the society. Even if a Dalit becomes a member of the parliament, Indian society still treat him as a low caste and low class person. They might respect his post and perks but will not respect his caste(as an equal human being), will call him untouchable. This member of parliament will not be able to marry his children outside his caste, can't go to their homes and temples(of higher class Brahmins).
So reserving quotas is actually strengthening and justifying the caste and creed based system in India. can't help it... it's part of their religion.
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Aug 30, 2015 06:48pm
Aamir Khan - What happened was shameful and the police will take action as per law. But what has this got to do with democracy? Democracy is a system where people elect their leaders through a vote. It is understandable that you have no idea what is democracy. You have seen so little of it in your country.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:01pm
@Gaurav Arya In democracy, every vote counts and is counted as equal. In Indian society humans are not considered equal and are divided between low caste Dalits and high caste Brahmins. Casteism and democracy are opposite to each other and are contradictory.
Either you have democracy or you have caste based system just like in India. The Indian democracy in all practical purpose is not the real democracy. Its like trying to fuse and amalgamate to opposites and let them work.
It keeps on tumbling to the ground with extremist forces working full time in India.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:04pm
what a great country INDIA
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Aug 30, 2015 07:05pm
Don't India covering this as they do any case related to Pakistan.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:12pm
@Gaurav Arya Democracy is not just about elections, voting and selecting a few people in the parliament. Its about equality of human beings, pluralism, inclusive and open society, level playing field for each human, irrespective of his caste and creed...is this system in place in India??
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Aug 30, 2015 07:13pm
Not sure if the Supreme Court has jurisdiction in Haryana
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Aug 30, 2015 07:14pm
Who needs Pakistan as an enemy when you have Modi.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:17pm
India is diverse country, there is possibility that wrong thing happens in such huge country. But there is also many positive thing happening in india daily.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:22pm
This is shame of India. What is Govt of India doing ? UP is not far off from New Delhi!
What is UP Govt doing? What is UP Police doing???
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Aug 30, 2015 07:23pm
Thank GOD we got independence from these barbaric people
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Aug 30, 2015 07:25pm
@Satnam Singh Yeah right... PM Narendra Modi is from backward caste, and it shows how he carries himself. He needs a whole lot of diplomatic grooming and need to learn the right etiquette....most of the time it is all very embarrassing to Indian people, and equally to world leaders.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:26pm
really pity. up's law and order is worst
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Aug 30, 2015 07:37pm
Panchayat's decision is PATHETIC and slap on humanity. Government of India and/or UP should put them all in JAIL and throw the keys. These people including those in Pakistan/Bangladesh are disgrace to human race regardless of culture, custom, religion.
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Aug 30, 2015 07:43pm
At least Pakistan has guts to accept its faults and work on it, whereas India is even defending this.....really incredible!
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Aug 30, 2015 08:05pm
Caste system in India existed 3000 years before.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:09pm
@Akram Unfortunately all such things happen in Democratic societies.Even the dictatorial states can't control them. It's the common citizens who need to rise above such systems and only then
Such practices will be controlled. Hope for the best.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:09pm
@Jeetendra . Thank you for your explanation and comments. I learned some new aspects. My sympathies are with the victims of this Panchayat's decision.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:10pm
@Kabul Precisely what we think of you.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:14pm
Categorizing people by Caste is Inhuman. Hard to believe India promotes culture of Caste in this age of civilization.
All human being are equal irrespective of their race or color... A message of Islam!
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Aug 30, 2015 08:15pm
@Maxx You need to read the Indian construction again before writing on such forums.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:18pm
@Azhar Much safer than Pakistan for your knowledge. Please don't judge the entire country because of few incidents.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:18pm
Caste! What a nonsense. who cares about the caste in this Civilized world? come out of old age folks and live like humans
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Aug 30, 2015 08:23pm
It is absurd that when an event like this happens in India some Pakistanis gloat, and when a similar tragedy happens in Pakistan some Indians gloat.
The patriarchy has to be abolished in BOTH Pakistan and India and the rest of the World as well. It is nothing but violence and degradation for women!
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Aug 30, 2015 08:28pm
How disgusting.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:37pm
India running on lower caste fuel since 1947!
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Aug 30, 2015 08:45pm
@Kabul The custom is called Vani in your country I believe
http://www.dawn.com/news/1083887
Also how many of your women head States, win Olympics,scale the Everst etc How many of your men have done the last two. Women represent 20% of our workforce. That's one in five people. Their education levels are at par with men. So cut the sanctimonious air. Atleast we don't mock when something tragic happens in your country.
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Aug 30, 2015 08:55pm
@Gaurav Arya I can't believe you just said that and a lot of people that are commenting live in many different countries around the world, people obviously know what democracy is? And why so much commenting on democracy because democract = people have a voice in this case this girl has no voice. Yes same things do happened in Pakistan but only Indians rub democracy word on people's faces that's and snap
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Aug 30, 2015 08:58pm
Yeah but that was useless knowledge the whole thing doesn't even stands the same definition anymore. Like they always come up with things like that in a way they are supporting but explaining the right meaning of it
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Aug 30, 2015 09:01pm
@Kamal Pasha;
Caste system is the root cause, panchayat is a symptom. Feudalism is the root cause jirga is a symptom.
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Aug 30, 2015 09:02pm
Behind this artificial veil of democracy is a most abhorring Caste based system in India. Dalits are regarded as worst than animals, Muslims are not faring any better, mostly lives in ghettos. Google search the ‘Caste based India’ and everyone will know about it.
Utterly inhuman and disgusting.
Democracy is used as a hogwash. Class based caste system cannot be a democratic system.
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Aug 30, 2015 09:04pm
@Babu Even if a backward caste Dalit gets an education…he will still be considered a Dalit. Abhorred and castigated from the high caste society. The anomaly, the fault lies in the caste system…instead of removing the system from its roots…Indians are trying to correct it with another anomaly.
The fault lies at the ‘core of the system’ that is the caste system. Quota’s and other perks are all actually making the caste system stronger and more acceptable in the society, now its part of the Indian life…but to think about it you need to come out of blind nationalism and accept the problem.
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Aug 30, 2015 09:05pm
As an Indian I really feel embarrassed,humiliated and stunned at this deplorable incident. On one hand our beloved country is making giant strides in every sphere which has caught the imagination of the whole world but such discomforting developments really pull India back.It's a blot on the face of all Indians..Disgusting and disgraceful. ..
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Aug 30, 2015 09:27pm
@N.Sid No problem - Brahmans are going to US and shinning - Sundara Pichai, Satya Nadella, Indiara Nooyi and many other CEOs are all Brahmins. I don't why the discussion is targeting Brahmans here. These things are isolated incidents and generalizing them is the heights of ignorance. There was a human sacrifice in Florida, US. Would you just generalize that as well to the entire US population?
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Aug 30, 2015 09:28pm
And they are sending missions to space!
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Aug 30, 2015 09:55pm
@Maxx wow..good discovery..u r exaggerating quiet..high..
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Aug 30, 2015 09:55pm
@yogesh Wow that's what everyone talking about Indians' mentality; do you really mean it that their brother messed with upper caste girl and now those two innocent sisters should be raped. Hats off to you
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Aug 30, 2015 09:58pm
@Jeetendra so no law or should i say INDIAN LAW there to stop JATT from doing such horrible crime.
YOU are actually finding an excuse for this crime.
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Aug 30, 2015 09:59pm
This is pathetic. The entire so called panchayat should be behind bars.
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Aug 30, 2015 09:59pm
@Abdulla Hussain
It is not illiteracy it is corruption - ie the ability of people of power to exist without being 'worried' about laws.
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What a nonsense & stupid ruling by the panchayat. All members including the leader of this council should be arrested & paraded with their face blackened. Thanks GOD the girls escaped punishment & are safe. Regretfully with little variation same type of idiocy is present here in Pakistan as well, illiteracy is the main cause for such thoughts & actions."
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Aug 30, 2015 10:00pm
@Maxx Thing is we like to judge people on their work.Voting for Bhutto junior next election?
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Aug 30, 2015 10:02pm
I don't want to beat up on India based on this story as some are doing. I just want to remind Indians that your country like Pakistan is not perfect. There are lots of issues. Some identical and some different. Please don't get on your white horse and look down on Pakistan. In many ways Pakistan is better than India and in some ways India is better than Pakistan. Just remember this.
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Aug 30, 2015 10:05pm
@shank valid point. This is the very definition of bigotry. Whether it is Jewish [Shylock] Blacks [drug dealers] Whites [racist] Muslims [terrorists] Indians [rapists]
"people, no one says india is a model country. Taking an isolated incident and painting the whole 1 billion with the same brush is clever? why dont you compare in space tech, healthcare, education where both countries need to reach places. Unfortunately !!!!???"
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Aug 30, 2015 10:32pm
Certainly a decision by panchayat that cannot be justified by means and blaming the caste system. But then similar decisions have taken place in Pakistan also, what would you call that when there's no caste system in Pakistan? Ignorance or stone age continues to live on both sides of the border where the mighty continue to decimate the weaker ones.
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Aug 30, 2015 10:42pm
@Priya Its UP sis, pretty much the same
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Aug 30, 2015 10:57pm
@Aamir Khan, not democracy but hypocrisy.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:02pm
@N.Sid not democracy but hypocrisy.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:03pm
@Priya Is Haryana out of India ? or you are totally out of touch about the jurisdiction of the supreme Court ?
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Aug 30, 2015 11:04pm
This decision of Panchayat is not at all fair.Hope sanity will prevail.Let us pray for these 2 innocent girls.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:07pm
At least these crimes get reported and punished in India.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:09pm
@Indian Muslim, beautiful thoughts.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:15pm
wait. there is no caste system in india. many indians have told me this.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:19pm
Panchayat was made to assist the governance not to take over. The surprising part is that pupil who follow orders of these khaps and commit crimes are revered in their community. They are no different than brain washed militants. These needs to stopped both in pakistan and india so that no more mukhtar mai happens in either country.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:38pm
@Khurram Jadooon In india unfortunately caste can never get too far. This is not just a matter of discrimination. It is a messed up cauldron of past injustices present politics and a host of politicians of every hue and also to some extent lazy historians.
If caste is a question in every government form can it ever be far away ?
Casteism is evil and has to be eradicated. It will be, inter caste marriages are more common than 20 years ago.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:43pm
This is only half story. Full story is police already arrested panchayat and case going on.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:54pm
@lafanga Was going to send a link of something similar that happened in your country. We get so carried away in taking a shot at eachother that we talk very glibly about sensitive matters. No dearth of skeletons in either of our closets.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:14am
So when exactly they are making a movie on their own problems? Has anyone else lost faith in India's fantasy power ? It's citizens already did.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:22am
@Syed Ahmad :- Who is Brahman over here, The fight is between have and havenots .
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Aug 31, 2015 12:23am
This is a bigger story about the lack of respect given to women. Pakistan has similar problems. All across South Asia we treat women like they are nothing but baby sitters and cooks. This must change.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:49am
Shinning India.....
Still stuck in the 16th century.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:18am
The so called "PUNCHIAT" elders involved in this case should be treated as terrorists and should be administered harsh punishment.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:25am
@Jeetendra - "They would kill their own children, if they go against traditional marriage laws". But that would be illegal too and not less draconian than what this news is about!
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Aug 31, 2015 01:59am
The caste system should be abolished. Humanity is based on the principle of equality for all. A flawed system that functions to serve a previlged minority is against the very fundamentals of democracy and basic human rights.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:03am
Yes India shining but still stuckup somewhere in the stone age. Such an act cannot be defended in any way. Shame for those who have aimed to do so.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:30am
@yogesh you disgust me with your archaic views. I hope you arrive in 21st century at some stage
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Aug 31, 2015 03:26am
@Optimistic Pakistani He is definitely not a dalit (untouchable). Nor a Brahmin. Must be from one of the other two castes. With his commercial activities in his home state, while he was a chief minister, he seems to belong to one caste, and with his war mongering posture, while being the prime minister, he seems to belong to the other.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:16am
Shameful indeed if it happened. But I am surprized how my neighbouring citizens reached to conclusion that this is somehow to do with MODI ! Modi has been our prime minister for barely 1 year out of our nearly 70 years of independent existence. This is result of failure of series of politicians and parties who have not stressed on development and only used minorities like Muslims and lower castes as their vote banks. By focussing on development and education we hopefully will neutralize these fallacies of democracy. Democracy is still better than autocracy. Peace !
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Aug 31, 2015 05:53am
Inequality based on birth is the worst social evil that can plague a society. In fact it was the caste system that forced Muslims to demand for a separate country. The Muslims were not considered equal and treated like untouchables by majority of the Hindus. If you study the history of Pakistan it was not the Muslim fanatics who struggled for creation of Pakistan but the educated middle class who faced horrific discrimination in education, jobs, housing and everything in the society.
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Aug 31, 2015 07:16am
its happening because of caste system of india people still don't accept inter caste marriage like Jat woman marry with a dalit so sad we become slaves of turks and others because we were divided and still now we indian don't learn our lesson specialy people living in regional area village small towns so sad
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Aug 31, 2015 07:26am
bhaio this dalit young man ran away with a married woman of Jat caste tell me what will you do if someone run away with your wife or married sister i am not protecting the panchayat but telling you the truth and Jat never tolerate this thing either they are muslims sikhs or hindu they love their dignity
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Aug 31, 2015 08:12am
Some positive news about India like India developed its own cryogenic engine and launched USA satellite or India developing smart cities should also be covered along with these negatives news. We should understand every county has positive and negatives aspects.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:34pm
@Gaurav Arya If you think democracy is limited to choosing your leaders through a vote, it's you who has little understanding of what democracy is. A democracy guarantees protection of human rights for all its citizens and holds them equally accountable under the law. What's ironic is that you've seen so much of it, yet don't know even the basic stipulations of a democracy, while I, having seen 'so little of it', seem to know more.
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Aug 31, 2015 09:04pm
@Aamir Khan - Its true that Indian constitution protects individual rights by equality and rule of law, but thats called Liberal democracy, not just democracy. (Check wikipedia for both terms). There have been democracies where there were constitutional discrimination of various kinds.Democracies which were not liberal. Pakistan is one such democracy. Ancient Greek & roman republics although being democracies, used to have practice of slavery.
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Sep 01, 2015 04:10am
@Jeetendra - Yes, there was slavery in ancient Greek & Roman republics but we are now in a very different and modern era! By the looks of it real democracy has barely improved barely in even 70 years.
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Sep 01, 2015 11:56am
Caste system is part of the Hindu religious social system prevalent for thousands of years , It is most degrading and inhuman system strangely approved by Hindu religion. Hindus are most conservative in their religion specially regarding this caste system. This has caused lot of damage to them by lower caste Hindus converting to other religions to save themselves from caste discrimination which is worse than slavery system. Humans have mostly abolished slavery system.
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