Pool B scenarios: Upsets could shake up race to the quarters
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Bangladesh's upset win over England on Monday completed the quarter-finals lineup in Pool A with Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and Mashrafe Mortaza's side making it to the knockout stage.
In Pool B, Pakistan’s stunning win over South Africa ensured the battle for the top four remained wide open.
Currently, only India has qualified for the knock-out stages from Pool B, while South Africa is also in the box seat to advance. Ireland, Pakistan and West Indies are looking set to battle for the final two spots.
Pool B
Remaining matches:
South Africa v United Arab Emirates, Wellington, March 12
India v Zimbabwe, Auckland, March 14
West Indies v United Arab Emirates, Napier, March 15
Pakistan v Ireland, Adelaide, March 15
India
(Played 5, won 5, lost 0, points: 10)
India is undefeated after five matches and have already qualified for the quarterfinals. They will take their last pool match against Zimbabwe as an opportunity to try out a few things. It is also unlikely to be removed from the top of Pool B.
Finishing first means India will play the fourth-ranked team in Pool B in a quarter final, most likely to be either Sri Lanka or Bangladesh with the game in Melbourne on Thursday March 19th.
South Africa
(Played 5, won 3, lost 2, points: 6)
South Africa’s rollercoaster World Cup continued against Pakistan on Saturday when it tumbled to a 29-run loss. Twice, the Proteas have scored more than 400 runs this tournament, but they have also been skittled for 177 and 202. That said, South Africa’s only remaining match is against the winless United Arab Emirates.
With a comfortable NRR of +1.462, a win against UAE will see the Proteas finish in second spot. But an upset loss could see them finish third if Pakistan defeat Ireland, or, in a less likely scenario, if West Indies has an enormous win over UAE and manages to lift itself above the Proteas on NRR.
In all likelihood South Africa will finish second and play the third-ranked team from Pool A; likely to be Sri Lanka in Sydney.
Pakistan
(Played 5, won 3, lost 2, points: 6)
Pakistan’s win over South Africa has made its path to the finals a much steadier one. A win over Ireland next Saturday will seal the deal, but even if it loses, West Indies would need a large win over UAE to sneak ahead on NRR.
With both matches to take place just hours apart on either side of the Tasman, the pool stage is set for an exciting finish.
Finishing third would most likely set up a clash with Australia in Adelaide, while the team which finishes fourth in Pool B will play New Zealand in Wellington.
Ireland
(Played 5, won 3, lost 2, points: 6)
Ireland has had a strong World Cup to date and has one match left up its sleeve coming into the final week of pool matches.
A win against Pakistan will be enough to finish third or fourth. Ireland would also be safe if it loses to Pakistan and West Indies were upset by UAE. After losing to India today, a defeat to Pakistan and a win to the Windies against UAE will see Ireland finish fifth thanks to its poor NRR; a result of the thrashing at the hands of South Africa and narrow wins against UAE and Zimbabwe.
West Indies
(Played 5, won 2, lost 3, points: 4)
West Indies have shown they can be very good or they can struggle during their first five matches. After starting the tournament with a disappointing four-wicket loss to Ireland, they followed up by thrashing Pakistan.
A big win over Zimbabwe, led by Chris Gayle’s 215, followed, before they were smashed by the Proteas in Sydney three days later. A disappointing batting performance and subsequent loss to India in Perth followed.
However, West Indies’ last remaining match is against UAE and they can still make the play-offs. If Ireland lose their match against Pakistan and the Windies beat UAE, the quarter finals beckon due to their superior NRR.
In a less likely scenario, the Windies could also make it on NRR if they beat UAE and Pakistan lose to Ireland, but big margins would be needed on either side for it to happen.
Zimbabwe
(Played 5, won 1, lost 4, points: 2)
Zimbabwe’s loss to Pakistan was a major blow to its hopes of making the knock outs and the loss to Ireland on Saturday made it a done deal. Zimbabwe can try and salvage some pride by upsetting India in its final match of the tournament.
United Arab Emirates
(Played 4, won 0, lost 4, points: 0)
United Arab Emirates has played five matches for three losses, but the Associate team can at least be happy in the knowledge it was more than competitive in its first two matches.
It can also have a say in the final make-up of the top four, as upset wins against either South Africa or West Indies would cause havoc in the quarter-final scenarios.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:10pm
Most importantly, the match between WI and UAE will start at 3 am Pakistan time whilst the match between Pakistan and Ireland will start at 8:30 am on the same day i.e Sunday 15th March. This means that the WI match will be at its finishing time when Pakistan match starts. Big advantage for Pakistan to plan the Net Run Rate strategy
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Mar 10, 2015 02:11pm
India played fairly against Ireland. Even if India would have lost to Ireland, still India would have been at top of group B and Ireland would have qualified to quarter finals. But India did not do that. Lot of Pakistan fans call India being jealous to them. But why will India be jealous to Pakistan? Pakistan is very weak side in this world cup. When India defeated South Africa, I have not seen any Indian fan writing comments against Pakistan on twitter. But when Pakistan defeated South Africs, lot of Pakistan fans were writing comments against India saying India would have been jealous. Why will India be jealous with Pakistan defeating South Africa? Ofcouse if India and Pakistan playing against each other, Indians will want India to win and Pakistanis will want Pakistan to win. But when playing against third country, why Pakistan fans make comments against India. Whoever plays better, let them win worldcup. So far New Zealand, India and Australia have played well and deserve place in semi fianl atelast. I am not sure about 4th team. It could be Pakistan, South Africa or Srilanka.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:14pm
Pakistan will beat Ireland InshAllah..
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Mar 10, 2015 02:22pm
Most boring world cup ever
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Mar 10, 2015 02:37pm
@Mohib yeah Hope so. With pakistan you can never say they are predictably unpredicatable.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:37pm
@zak pls don't watch it...TRP will not be affected..
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Mar 10, 2015 02:39pm
@Pravin cant you see your TV ads which promote jealousy against Pakistan....MOKA MOKA and other such sort of nonserious ad....
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Mar 10, 2015 02:41pm
Amongst the 4 remaining matches only the one between Pakistan and Ireland is a question mark. All the other 3 are straight forward results.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:51pm
@Mohib
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Mar 10, 2015 02:55pm
@Mohib To remind you, in 2007 world cup Ireland Knocked out Pakistan from the world cup.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:58pm
Pakistan run rate in Ireland match doesn't matter at all... They just have to win against Ireland (which is not that easy btw). If Pak loses that match, the World Cup is most likely to be over as Pak NRR will reduce from that defeat and WI is likely to win from UAE by a decent margin.
@Pravin... Outcome of India Ireland match was immaterial for Pakistan as even in case of India loss Ireland would have qualified and Pak still has to win from Ireland to ensure that WI doesn't qualify!
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Mar 10, 2015 03:00pm
@Pravin i like your comments
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Mar 10, 2015 03:12pm
Based on assumptions
Quarter-final 1 - A1 (NZ) v B4 (WI)
Quarter-final 2 - A2 (Aus) v B3 (Pak)
Quarter Final 3 - A3 (Sri) v B2 (SA)
Quarter Final 4 - A4 (Bang) v B1 (Ind)
Semi-final 1 - Winner QF1 (A1 v B4) v Winner QF3 (A3 v B2)
Semi-final 2 - Winner QF2 (A2 v B3) v Winner QF4 (A4 v B1)
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Mar 10, 2015 03:14pm
If Pakistan loose then it will be a upset.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:17pm
"In a less likely scenario, the Windies could also make it on NRR if they beat UAE and Pakistan lose to Ireland, but big margins would be needed on either side for it to happen."
Its not less likely scenario at all. Consider this: WIndies makes 300 and UAE makes 250. Ireland makes 300 and Pakistan makes 250. In this case, Pakistan will stand at 5th position (-0.33 as compared to -0.25 of WI)
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Mar 10, 2015 03:20pm
West Indies need to win against UAE with a really BIG margin and then wait for Pak-Ire result.
The winner of Pak-Ire clash is obviously playing quarters, but even the loser could still go through - depending on NRR of losing side compared to West Indies. Very interesting position in this pool.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:20pm
@Pravin Do not tell us that India made Mouka ads for every other team. You guys are obsessed with Pakistan, admit it. As far as losing to Ireland is concerned, is your win a favor to us? NO Sir, India made sure they win to play against BD in quarterfinals, easy route to semis. Also, it would have added to humiliation incase they had lost (they had already lost badly to Australia and England before the WC)
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Mar 10, 2015 03:21pm
Pakistan should rather compete for 4th spot as playing against New Zealand in Australia is still easier rather than playing against Australia in Australia.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:23pm
By defeating Ireland, india helped Pakistan to qualify for quarter final
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Mar 10, 2015 03:25pm
@zak If the WC is boring nobody is asking you to follow
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Mar 10, 2015 03:25pm
India showed its dignity by not throwing away the match to oust Pakistan. If Pak had that opportunity, would they have deliberately lost if it meant India,s elimination?
Shows Indias positive mentality
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Mar 10, 2015 03:27pm
@Pravin well said, we have scores of stupid people in Pakistan who one day burnt their TV sets and very next day started to dream of winning the world cup. India is the most consistent team , better than New Zealand and Australia as a Pakistani I would be more than happy seeing them retaining their title.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:27pm
@zak We can understand- World Champions juggernaught marching on . AND the worst team of the tournamenyt has to beat IRELAND to qualify for QF!! It must be hard ZAK-take a break! Forget the 6-0 drubbing
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Mar 10, 2015 03:30pm
Pakistan heading towards the world cup.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:34pm
@pravin - it would have made no difference to pakistan if india lost to ireland.........pakisan and WI are in race.......pls see the entire info first
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Mar 10, 2015 03:38pm
@Pravin and if India lose to BAN in quarter finals??
Anything can happen!
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Mar 10, 2015 03:39pm
If Ireland loose then it will be big upset....
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Mar 10, 2015 03:40pm
can someone shed light on how many runs to be scored in NRR comes into play?
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Mar 10, 2015 03:46pm
I wish to see India VS Pak again in this world cup.. as Final match?
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Mar 10, 2015 03:50pm
pak b3 vs ausies a2,sa vs srilanka, india vs bangladesh,newsealand vs wi/ireland. aus more chances against pk, pk hv to do so hard work ,fielding,catches,batting,bowling,wktkeeping,catches and attacking according to da situation.moin khan pls go towards aus.no time waste, if pk win again indian n pak will meet in da semies.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:54pm
Lets hope Pakistan finishes fourth in Pool B, thus drawing New Zealand as our opponent. Should we finish third, we will have to play Australia and, we all know, the kind of mental stranglehold Australia has on Pakistan. Whereas, against New Zealand we have always managed to put up a good fight and won more matches than we have lost.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:54pm
The clashes for QF are more or less finalized. OR wait....is there a last twist left in pool B?
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Mar 10, 2015 03:58pm
@irfan farooqui that's not jealousy that's humor.You guys don't understand that
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Mar 10, 2015 03:59pm
India , Pakistan to meet again in Semi finals..
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Mar 10, 2015 04:02pm
@a Pakistani looking at the upsets in this world cup it will not be surprising to see Pakistan beating Ireland
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Mar 10, 2015 04:08pm
@irfan farooqui : mauka mauka ads are really funny. They are non serious ads. Why do you smell jealousy in it? Can't you take a joke as a joke. And it's made on all teams. Why your pride is always at stake on small things and light jokes. You guys are so filled up with 'conspiracy theories'
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Mar 10, 2015 04:09pm
@Kuladeep Patil IF Pakistan finishes 3rd (which is most likely if they qualify), Pakistan can only meet India in the Semi Final.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:12pm
A very good summary of the unpredictable scenario in Pool B. All eyes in Pakistan on our team as hopes and spirits have started to soar after the exciting ( and unexpected) win against SA! Looking forward to the Nail biting days ahead! Best of luck Pakistan!
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Mar 10, 2015 04:13pm
@zak...Pakistan heading towards the world cup....let us know when u wake up
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Mar 10, 2015 04:14pm
@Pravin. Best analyst and a cool guy from Indian Side. Wanna see people like you on both sides of India and Pak. From Paki cool guy..;)
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Mar 10, 2015 04:19pm
I dunt think India was thinking of eliminating Pak by losing or anything. Yes it helped Pak but tht was not their main purpose behind it.
Any team advancing as top team in each pool will play the last team in other pool. This is the sole reason. For India, and NZ, SF is alot easier since they r playing fourth team frm other pool.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:26pm
other option could be that pakistan shoot for 2nd spot by beating ireland by a big margin. this way we would have to face either bangladesh or srilanka
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Mar 10, 2015 04:28pm
@PRAVIN Why so many Indian comments on Pakistani news websites? When I read Indian news websites I don't comment and I don't see Pakistanis commenting or putting hate speech in their comments (not saying you did here but most Indians do). But when I read Pakistani news websites, I see a lot of Indians commenting on news they should not be bothered with. Why?
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Mar 10, 2015 04:29pm
@apoorva ... When you wake up... Please let us know.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:29pm
@Rajni - So true buddy!
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Mar 10, 2015 04:31pm
@Pravin you are absolutely right. In fact , I as Pakistani, enjoy watching Indian batting in any match.
But regarding your observation on Pakistanis commenting on Indians as they will be jealous of PAK win over S.A.... THE ANSWER MIGHT BE IN STAR SPORTS ADVERTISEMENTS. (where they presumed that S.A beats PAK and Pak fan in disguise of Indian fan support IND against IRE for greens to qualify fr qrtr fnls)
Otherwise totally agree with you on 'as who plays better should win'. Peace
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Mar 10, 2015 04:31pm
@irfan farooqui : I think it's not being jelous, but a creative and catchy advert which started with India - Pakistan Encounter. This advert has literally taken India by storm
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Mar 10, 2015 04:41pm
@Pravin Very well said bro. btw I am Pakistani.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:41pm
@analyses Agreed, run rate will not come into play if Pakistan or Ireland win the match between themselves. But why in your opinion it is difficult for Pakistan to beat Ireland. Pakistan lost to Ireland only once in 2007 world cup in the West Indies because of the moisture in the wicket. Ireland won the toss and took advantage of the conditions which resulted in a loss to Pakistan. It is worth mentioning here that after 2007 Ireland team has not won a single ODI against Pakistan, including a 2 match ODI series played between the two teams in Ireland in 2013. Yes, the current Pakistan team may be weak but barring the glorious uncertainties of the game of cricket, Pakistan will beat Ireland. In the current world cup Pakistan team has not crossed the 250 mark while batting but one should bear in mind that the team defended totals of 235 against Zimbabwe and 232 against South Africa because of good bowling attack.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:42pm
@irfan farooqui....muaka....7-0 8-0 9-0 100-0..it will go on and on..mauka mauka
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Mar 10, 2015 04:44pm
@Kuladeep Patil They can only meet at semis after defeating Australia
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Mar 10, 2015 04:46pm
@Syed Jafri you are stupid. Games make people emotional for a short period of time, like your young kids can make you upset, angry by making a mistake. It doesn't mean you become their enemy.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:47pm
he He I can have a big laugh at Indian fans, they are already thinking the world cup is over and the trophy in there hands. Have you seen the other group and how these guys are playing , keep glued to screens you will reach semifinal that's for sure because that's been booked for you guys spending enormous money and bringing boom to Australian tourism . But be aware of reality about being mediocre.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:48pm
@Mudassar Siddiq awesome thatis
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Mar 10, 2015 04:49pm
hope pakistan qualifies for QF and then defeats australia in QF. it will set up a SF clash between india and pakistan at SCG. pakistan team will choke like in 2011. india will go to final and then defeat silly new zealand team in final ,New zealand wont have home game advantage as final is in MCG
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Mar 10, 2015 04:53pm
@irfan farooqui get some sense of humour man.. why do you ppl behave so touchy an delicate ? mouka add is really hilarious much like NFP's editorial in dawn
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Mar 10, 2015 05:01pm
even if Pakistan qualifies for quarter final.. it will face Australia , :)
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Mar 10, 2015 05:07pm
@Saeed Ahmed : Dude... for once at least stop living in history and wake up to the present.
Current NZ side is much more dangerous than Aussies.
So if u wanna pray, pray that u face Aussies in QF n not NZ.
Nevertheless, defeating Aussies is also unlikely for pak. But NZ is impossible.
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Mar 10, 2015 05:09pm
@musdassir : Oh really?
You think you can beat Aussies??
Wake up from dream state.
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Mar 10, 2015 05:13pm
Which are the two most consistent teams in the woels cup?
Pakistan is not among them?
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Mar 10, 2015 05:16pm
Respects to India. India could have easily lost this match to damage Pakistan's chances to qualify. India's position would not have been any different even if they lost this match but they played well and won not only the match but respects from the global community. Hats off.
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Mar 10, 2015 05:50pm
@suman india win over Ireland has nothing to do with Pakistan qualifying, in india win or loss pakistan has to beat Ireland in both cases.s
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Mar 10, 2015 06:02pm
@Kaleem
Indians are not making any mouka mouka ads,Its By Star Sports,Belongs to Rupert Murdoch,an Australian American business magnate.Personally i really like the pak bowlers like Wasim Akram,Waqar ,Saqlain and Sohail Tanveer
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Mar 10, 2015 06:04pm
@irfan farooqui Let keep apples to apples. Pravin is making a sensible comment. Let the best team win. India is playing far superior cricket than Pakistan right now. In all honesty do you really think Pakistan can beat India, NZ or Australia?
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Mar 10, 2015 06:07pm
Pakistan has played five matches and has won in three matches by the grace of God.Pakistan should strengthen its batting line however its bowlers have improved well as compared to recent matches.Pakistan must make a great score against Ireland in order to qualify quarter final.
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Mar 10, 2015 06:19pm
@Kaleem fab! whats the formula for NRR?
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Mar 10, 2015 06:21pm
"Bangladesh's upset win over England....", really? Bangladesh never thought so. From day one after the WC fixture came out, England along with Afghanistan and Scotland were considered to be Bangladesh's soft target. So, it was an expected win for Bangladesh as planned.
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Mar 10, 2015 06:22pm
@ilyas Each team would have played 6 matches by the end of the pool round that means 6*50=300 overs. So a win or loss by 50 runs means 50/300= .167
The NRR difference between Wi (.511) and Pak (.194)= .317 in Pakistans favor meaning Pakistan is ahead by approx 80 runs (I think) Some math wiz please correct me if I am wrong
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Mar 10, 2015 06:31pm
But no one has accounted for a scenario , if SA vs UAE gets washed out and PAK beat Ireland, PAK then stands in second position and may face Sri Lanka or Bangladesh (whoever gets third position in group A)………………a HAPPY Scenario
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Mar 10, 2015 06:42pm
India match against Ireland could provide some good lessons to Pakistan. First Ireland weakness against spin bowling, so Pakistan should think hard about including Haris Suhail for Akmal (left arm spin) and Yasir Shah for one of the seamers. Similarly, Ireland bowling is it's weakest link, so Pakistan should come out of Misbah negative mind set and should play positively against Ireland bowlers. By capitalizing on Irish batsmen weakness against spinner, and Ireland weak bowling attack, Pakistan could win match very easily.
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Mar 10, 2015 06:42pm
"Eighth Final" would be played between Pakistan and Ireland. Enjoy it folks.
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Mar 10, 2015 06:49pm
@faisal thanks for explaining.I was looking for this exactly
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Mar 10, 2015 07:03pm
@Pravin: You're sadly mistaken. Even if india had deliberately lost to Ireland, it would not have mattered to Pakistan because even though Ireland would have gone through to the next round, if Pakistan beat Ireland they would have gone through with 8 points.
Get your stats straight. You wrote "I have not seen any Indian fan writing comments against Pakistan on twitter" and " lot of Pakistan fans were writing comments against India saying India would have been jealous"
Most of the trolls on Pakistani newspapers (including this one) are indians who are always degrading Pakistan even on news items which have no connection with india...THIS is a fact
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Mar 10, 2015 07:31pm
@IRFAN FAROOQUI,
MOUKA ads are pretty creative, not nonsense ads.
I can understand your predicament , but still they are creative ads.
Enjoy
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Mar 10, 2015 07:36pm
@irfan farooqui Its a serious ad if you understand. Read the comments here before start of match, its same feeling of every pakistni
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Mar 10, 2015 07:44pm
Come what may! Pakistan is going to lift the trophy as world champion. Now they have started (although late) but in time. No team in the world can defeat Pakistan team now on wards.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:45pm
mouka mouka,mouka mouka.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:46pm
Pakistan might do better against NZ than Australia. in either case, Quarters look good but Semis look improbable.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:46pm
@ABL Let's say B3 and B1 win their QF matches, Pak and Ind will meet again in SF. Another final before Final,
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Mar 10, 2015 07:50pm
@Kuladeep Pati I too wish the same. But in that case Pakistan will lift the trophy
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Mar 10, 2015 07:50pm
@A A Ireland is a very good team.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:50pm
@Pravin I am an Indian,but AI find your comment foolish. No Country loose to put other country in trouble. Every Country would try to win, same India too. Also don't call Pakistan weak side because they have proved it they are not weaker after winning 3 games in pool and good contender for No. 3 spot. India too lost against Aus and England in Triseries but they came back strong.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:56pm
@Imran -- Yes we do think... BTW why you excluded the name SA.
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Mar 10, 2015 08:00pm
I do not fully agree with it. Pak has a NRR of (-) 0.19 and WI has (-) 0.51. In the event that Pak looses to IRE, even with a margin of 15% of either in runs or overs and WI wins over UAE with a margin of 50% either in runs or overs. In that case WI takes the 4th position and PAK would be decimated to the 5th place on NRR
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Mar 10, 2015 08:02pm
@faisal : I don't think calculation is done that way. If you score 200 and get all out in 40 covers, then your run rate is calculated as 200 scored in 50 overs.
Whereas if you chase down 200 in 40 overs to win then your run rate is calculated as 200 scored in 40 overs.
Also scores of all matches are added up. Rate at which runs scored minus rate at which runs given over all 6 matches.
So I don't think your simplistic calculations will give right results.
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Mar 10, 2015 08:14pm
PCB, please for heaven's sake this time make sure the Pakistan Cricket team is already in Australia for its next match. India has an advantage in that it's still playing matches in New Zealand whereas our players will need to readjust to the new venue in a new country. At this time, our players should be in practice mode in Australia!
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Mar 10, 2015 08:16pm
May our green dream team win with HUGE margins! Keep up the momentum and never give in! All the best to Pakistan's cricket team, go get 'em and bring the WC trophy home!
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Mar 10, 2015 08:17pm
Chris Gayle unbeaten 280 against UAE total score 450.
UAE all out 100
Pakistan loses match by one run due to Misbah run out for last wicket.
Misbah retires and retreat in Helmand Afghanistan.
In share alla this will happen...
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Mar 10, 2015 08:22pm
@Pravin - " When India defeated South Africa, I have not seen any Indian fan writing comments against Pakistan on twitter"
Maybe you didn't read the majority of Indian news sites, ie The Hindu, The Times of India, Starsports.com, etc. which posted extremely anti-Pakistan haters commenting they would rather see Ireland win then Pakistan!! Twitter has many users so you really can't base your pov by just one or two twitter accounts.
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Mar 10, 2015 08:49pm
Will Pakistan face Bangladesh in the Quarter Finals?
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Mar 10, 2015 08:50pm
@zak...."Pakistan heading towards the world cup". Aren't they playing? Probably wants to get a glimpse of it
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Mar 10, 2015 09:13pm
@Lyra :Why not ?. If Pak beatedn SA then it can beat anyone else too. this is cricket and played by Pakistan makes it highly unpredictable. bye he bye I'm from India.
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Mar 10, 2015 09:18pm
@Kuladeep Patil bhai phir say jeetna hai worldcup?:P
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Mar 10, 2015 09:40pm
Final: NZ v the Aussies
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Mar 10, 2015 09:47pm
@irfan farooqui yes irfan I also felt that ad shouldn't be made sorry for that bro... But just enjoy don't take it personally...
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Mar 10, 2015 10:04pm
In a likely event of Pak winning against Ireland and an unlikely event of Pak winning against Australia (in the QF) we are all set for Pak vs India semi-final. Odds are low but can't be ruled out!
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Mar 10, 2015 10:10pm
@Kuladeep Patil "I wish to see India VS Pak again in this world cup.. as Final match?"
The most likely outcome is Pakistan will defeat Ireland and be in 3rd place. It will have to play Australia in the quarters and assuming it wins and gets to semis it will meet India there. I am assuming that India will definitely win match vs Bangladesh in QF.
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Mar 10, 2015 10:31pm
@zak Agree with you brother; if my team sucked I would be bored as well
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Mar 10, 2015 10:52pm
@faisal you are spot on in your calculations. Minor corrections due to D/L i Pak-Sa match and also would apply if D/L comes into play in WI-UAE match and Pak-Ireland match but you captured the ball park.
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Mar 10, 2015 10:58pm
@Good Pakistani Girl "Will Pakistan face Bangladesh in the Quarter Finals?"
No. As top of pool B India will play Bangladesh which is at bottom of pool A. If Pakistan wins against Ireland (the more likely scenario), it will be in 3rd spot and play Australia in QF which is in 2nd spot. If it wins against Australia, it would play India in semis.
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Mar 10, 2015 11:01pm
@Jawaid Saeedi "Final: NZ v the Aussies"
Cannot predict outcome of India-Australia semis. India has even chance. But it does look as though NZ is likely to get through to the finals and they deserve to.
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Mar 10, 2015 11:27pm
@Rajni Remember all.. N.z will play its quarter final in N.z . If they qualify to semi final they will also play it in N.z . According to icc rules of Wc .
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Mar 10, 2015 11:35pm
There are so many comments about jealousy etc. But one thing i can tell you, being an Indian i want Pakistan to go to quarters not Ireland. Emotional people can wish for Pakistan ouster from WC but if you think Pakistan has a much better chance to win against a team like Aus/NZ rather Ireland. It is always good if one of these teams is eliminated from the WC and that only Pak CAN provide. It may also happen that India faces Pak in semis and looses but it will be still entertaining and its not like India can win against Aus in semis. So, think long term. Pak in Quarters is better for any team which wants the WC winning probability to increase.
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Mar 11, 2015 12:21am
@Kaleem Windies are not only likely but surely going into QF. They have better NRR compared to both Pak and Ire. The winner between Ire/Pak will make it to QF along with WI. Because WI would surely beat UAE and will have better NRR than the losing team of Ire/Pak game.
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Mar 11, 2015 12:27am
@Rajni There is no probability of Pak finishing 4th in poll. Either they stand 3rd or in less likely scenario, are 5th / out of WC.
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Mar 11, 2015 12:32am
@suman India/Ireland match result does not affect Pakistan but helps WI instead. Had India lost to Ire today and Pak beating Ire on Sunday, only WI would e out from WC.
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Mar 11, 2015 12:38am
all credit goes to MS Dhoni Eleven !!
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Mar 11, 2015 12:40am
@musdassir No chance for Ind/Pak clash in semis. They both can only meet in finals - should they both go that stage (India more likely reaching final, Pakistan would need to beat Aus in QF and possibly NZ in SF - big ask).
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Mar 11, 2015 12:46am
The fixed match between SA and Pakistan has opened up the whole pool to surprises. AB must have made millions by losing to Pakistan
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Mar 11, 2015 12:58am
What if Pak and Ireland Game is tied or washed out?
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Mar 11, 2015 01:09am
Pakistan should concentrate on its match against Ireland. They must plan their strategies by watching VDO footage of the India/Ireland match. See how Dhoni managed his players. Last Pakistan should include Yasser Shah in place of 1 pacer.
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Mar 11, 2015 01:18am
@suman : In reality, India's victory over Ireland did nothing for Pakistan. Pakistan still has to beat Ireland to qualify. If they lose to Ireland, most likely scenario is WI and Ireland will go through (Ireland on points, and WI on an improved NRR due to their assumed win against UAE by a decent margin, unless both matches are close finishes, in which case Pakistan can squeeze through).
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Mar 11, 2015 01:35am
@zak bear it.
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Mar 11, 2015 01:42am
Pakistan/Ireland - loser have to compete with WI NRR.
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Mar 11, 2015 03:01am
@Pravin ...if india have let them win it would have been very clear to the world what is going on even though they played kinda not their 100%...... there would have been serious issues for team india ...... its one thing to achieve target slow and to loose another
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Mar 11, 2015 03:06am
if any one of advert company person is here .... here is idea for to beat this stupid moka moka ad ..... make add that feature 6's from Afridi and Javed Miada ... you can call it 6's 6's 6's .........please every on remember this is my idea
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Mar 11, 2015 03:40am
@Pravin great
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Mar 11, 2015 03:44am
@Pravin I am an indian and was cheering and backing pakistan to beat SA.
I really enjoyed quality bowling by them.
Well played PAK.
See you in semi/finals.
Good luck
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Mar 11, 2015 03:46am
Pakistan vs Australia quarter final
Pakistan vs India semi final
Pakistan vs new zealand final
just a wish :)
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Mar 11, 2015 03:48am
@Syed Jafri
Nice comment but this inferiority complex has not done any good to us. Are you forgetting this Mouka ads belittling Pakistan?
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Mar 11, 2015 03:55am
I Support Pakistan and if they go out, we should back India so they take the cup. How it should be for either country.
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Mar 11, 2015 04:17am
I am still hoping against hope that WI will beat UAE by a huge margin and Ireland will somehow beat Pakistan.
That will be a Super Sunday for 1.25 billion Indians.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:28am
@analyses nnr matters because if PK beat ire comprehensively enough, they can grab second spot. It requires luck and bit of a thrashing to Ireland. Luck if uae vs SA match rains off . And we need Irish thrashing to ensure 2nd spot in case SA wins.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:31am
@Kaleem yes it can be the case if we take Ireland lightly
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Mar 11, 2015 05:34am
@Pravin well said . I am 100% agree with you from British pakistani.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:37am
@Rajni judging by ur name, most likely you r indian. So what do you want? You want Pakistan to lose the match so that you could laugh at us because there is still a chance we could be out of wc if we lose and West Indies win by big margin
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Mar 11, 2015 06:48am
@zafar
I agree. I don't like Indian news websites because they seem more objective than even a conservative news paper like even Dawn. It is boring. I rather see Pakistani newspapers and tv clips as they are more inflammatory . Here every thing is viewed with a religious vision. No Indian paper or tv news can say like that in India and not get into serious trouble. Examples include Zaid Hamid etc. It becomes more entertaining , and I am sure many of my Indians are like me. So chill out brother, Indians are here because it is more fun and not because they are jealous. A country has to be good in something before the neighbours feel jealous. I cannot blame you because your tv, books, education do not let you see the world view. questions per se regarding the principles are disallowed or you are guilty of apostasy. Religion should be kept away from govt whether it is Hindu , Muslim , Jews or Christians, otherwise they are in danger of being consumed by it and not enlightened by it.
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Mar 11, 2015 06:55am
@Lyra, Buddy, the Australian squad packs one-two punch....strong squad plus mental stranglehold over Pakistan. With New Zealand the mental hold is not there. The battle will only be one dimensional. I hope you get my drift.....
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Mar 11, 2015 08:57am
@Pravin this occurs both ways. There are comments from Indians when Pakistan wins also. It is part of sport.
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Mar 11, 2015 09:05am
@Mohib
Why will God be part of any such trivial game? If God wish we will all be sane an 100% rational and no fight for anything? But God wants us to wish properly, he want us to learn how to wish right things, he is perfect so never wish anything.
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Mar 11, 2015 09:43am
@Pravin fair comments but there were comments from someone your side who said that India will lose to Ireland to keep Pakistan out of quarter final. So its not only Pakistanis to be fair. There is no doubt that Indians have been playing superbly well and they rightly deserve to move on to semi final and beyond. I wish our team could play better and face India in the final. Then let us support our national teams and at the end admire the best team of the day.
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Mar 11, 2015 01:44pm
@Kaleem you have said what I want to say
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Mar 11, 2015 02:44pm
@Ziphyr
You said it bro...that's exactly why I visit Dawn and surf YouTube for Pak TV clips. I also completely agree with your argument (made to Zafar) that "I cannot blame you (Pakistanis) because your tv, books, education do not let you see the world view."
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Mar 11, 2015 02:44pm
It's true that Indians and Pakistanis both are obsessed about each other. I though feel happy that all the four teams from Indian Sub-Continent are making it to last eight.
Hail Asia! Hail Sub-Continent!
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Mar 11, 2015 02:46pm
I as an Indian will take a defeat by Pakistan as normally as I would take it by Australia, South Africa or any other team. It's just a game, no need to make it a matter of ego, superiority or vice versa. India is already doing great as a nation.
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Mar 11, 2015 03:54pm
@suman Let us enjoy the cricket.
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Mar 11, 2015 04:07pm
Its a critical group now .
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Mar 11, 2015 04:12pm
@faisal I did the calculations. West Indies to qualify would have to cover run rate difference of 1.585. Essentially, beat UAE by 79 runs or more, and if batting second if UAE makes 250 runs then chase down in 38.3 overs. If West Indies do it then their run rate would be better than Pakistan and Ireland. In that case the Pakistan Ireland match becomes a prequarterfinal, whoever wins goes through.
Pakistan has too much bowling quality for Ireland and they should win easily. And I love Sarfaraz and Wahab for their aggression. What players. Absolutely changed the gutted Pakistani team into a pack of wolves against South Africa.
Would love Pakistan to beat Australia and meet India in the semis. Entirely possible believe me if Pakistan bats first in that match; moreover the pitch is Sydney which should help Pakistan batting and Afridi's bowling. Oh...an India Pakistan semifinal would be a cracker. If that match happens, my prediction is the winner would also take the world cup.
And believe all Pakistani fans, I was so much cheering for Pakistan against South Africa. I want India to win but not Pakistan to loose. I will again root for Pakistan against Australia in QF.
Go India Go Pakistan
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Mar 11, 2015 04:42pm
Various possibilities exist but the most important match will still be Pakistan vs Ireland. India will be the group topper & SA appear to be the likely no.2 (unless of course rain washes out their match against UAE).Under normal circumstances, Pakistan should be no.2 with a win against Ireland and SA. Even if Ireland lose to Pakistan & WI beat UAE, Ireland would qualify as they beat WI and both would end up with equal points. A 3 way finish on equal points is needed before NRR is important.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:13pm
Based on the present situation, the likely result is Grp A : NZ, Aus, SL, Bangladesh and in Grp B : India, Pakistan, SA & Ireland in that order. The QF is likely to see India & NZ win with the other two matches being close affairs. However, the semis will see India play either Aus or SA and the other will see NZ play Pak or SL. Based on the fact the semis will be in Australia, I expect the winner of the India vs SA or Aus game to emerge as the winner. However, it could be another India vs Pakistan game in the final.
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Mar 11, 2015 09:18pm
@Pravin
I think, about the comments part, it goes both ways. However, believe it or not, but I have come across unimaginable hatred from Indians towards Pakistanis, on YouTube especially. Whether that represents the majority of the Indian thinking is another case, and to suggest that Indians don't say anything, in the situations you have suggested, is a bit unfair.
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Mar 11, 2015 10:00pm
south africa will win this world cup........
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Mar 11, 2015 10:32pm
@shazzy read the comment below yours. That's what the other side of the border planning.
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Mar 12, 2015 12:48am
4 teams in semi finals
1) Australia
2) New Zealand
3) South Africa
4) India
Winners in semi-finals is too hard to predict as it would be between New Zealand and South Africa and Australia and India and any of the teams is capable of winning in the finals. The better team on that day will prevail.
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Mar 12, 2015 03:36am
@zak agree of the 40 matches only worth seeing was Pak- India and that too we lost
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Mar 12, 2015 04:04am
@Ramesh Nakhwa Lol, it is ironic but its truth. Even as a Pakistani Supporter we are silent until unless that match will be played.
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Mar 12, 2015 04:09am
@Kuladeep Patil If you are an Indian Supporter do not wish for a 2nd match against pakistan. I am telling you in 2nd match in same tournament 6-0 streak would not work as never ever both nations played twice in a 50 over World Cup. More over in that pakistan will have nothing to lose and India will have everything t lose.
Still not get it? Recall WC 99'. Whole Pakistan prayed that they play final against Australia because we have beaten them in group stage. And What happened in the Final dark side of Pakistan cricket history ;) !!!!
SO before making such wish, think as many times dear !!!
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Mar 12, 2015 06:06am
@Pravin I think it is started by India as by creating provoking ads against Pakistan before each match which Pakistan Played against either India or any other country. Lets be fair Indians are not angels they are taunting Pakistan and Pakistanis are responding. So why to cry.
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Mar 12, 2015 09:57am
@Saeed Ahmed I think Pakistan should play NZ and down them. India should down Aussies. Then we will have an interesting final
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Mar 12, 2015 09:59am
@zafar I think that's because DAWN has a good moderation policy and the debates here do not get abusive unlike in many Indian sites. Also we find that many of you are sane people like ourselves
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Mar 12, 2015 10:06am
@Haroon We have our own bad guys who hate people blindly. But that's a minority. Most of us do not hate Pakistanis.
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Mar 12, 2015 03:55pm
Ireland has to do more than win against Pakistan. It has to win big against Pakistan to overcome it NRR deficit.
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Mar 13, 2015 03:28pm
india ireland match result does not effect pak quarterfinal because they will beat ireland and then start the new way to lift the world cup 2015
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Mar 13, 2015 03:29pm
india will play an easy quarterfinal and qualify for semis but there india will be thrash out of tounament by any big side
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Mar 13, 2015 03:38pm
india has fixed all the world cup matches because he has purchased most of the international players in IPL and not play against india well. U can see indian performance in australia before and after world cup matches. A player gets more in IPL even after losing than a winning team in ICC World cup. So india has fixed the world cup by setting batting pitches in tournament to make their strength. India make an bowling pitch then play with pakistan. pakistan will show them their strenght. Now a days the cricket is totally fixed by india. Pakistan 4 Top(Amir, Ajmal, Asif, Hafeez) bowlers are out of side due to indian hold on ICC. If these bowlers play against even india then india will make 49 all out result including 20 runs extra./
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