In an interview with BBC Urdu, Hamid Mir said that he has been threatened again to leave the country. – File Photo
In an interview with BBC Urdu, Hamid Mir said that he has been threatened again to leave the country. – File Photo

KARACHI: Senior journalist Hamid Mir, who is currently being treated after escaping an attack on his life in Karachi last week, blamed the ‘ISI within ISI’ for orchestrating the attack in an interview with BBC Urdu on Saturday.

Speaking during his first interaction with the media after the attack, Geo TV’s senior anchorperson said that he has been threatened again to leave the country by the same elements who he alleged were behind the attack.

He said he has been told to leave Karachi and Pakistan as “it will be a long fight.”

“People visit me in guise of friends but leave after conveying threatening messages of the foes,” said the senior journalist answering a question about the source of the recent threats.

“They say you better leave Pakistan…it’s not safe for you anymore. Only yesterday a highly responsible person came to visit me and told me that I will be attacked again.”

Mir said the people who were threatening him had always been a part of the country’s strong military establishment and they were conveying indifferent messages to him.

He said those who keep an eye on journalists’ movement and tape their telephone calls were behind the attack.

“Only these people may know what flight Hamid Mir will take to reach Karachi. Which car will pick him up at the airport and at what time he will come out from the airport. They knew where to attack the car and chose a corner where CCTV camera wasn’t functioning,” he added.

The journalist said he was pointing towards ‘ISI within ISI,’ adding that a person namely “Major Wajahat” called him during a live show and despite giving the authorities all the details nothing has been done as yet.

“The most worrisome fact is that Jihadist outfits attached to Taliban, which have been banned by the government, are protesting in favour of ISI,” he said.

“These banned jihadist groups which are protesting against me and in favour of ISI, aren’t these ISI within ISI?” he questioned.

Hamid Mir, in his official statement through his brother Amir Mir on Thursday, had held the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) responsible for orchestrating the attack.

He had said the ISI officials were apparently unhappy about his famous talk show, Capital Talk, being broadcast on Mama Qadir’s long march over missing Baloch persons. Mir claimed that the intelligence agency was also unhappy of his criticism aimed at the ISI in different Capital Talk shows.

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I. Ahmed
Apr 27, 2014 02:39am

Slowly and gradually, it is the friends becoming foe, ISI within ISI, banned party as ISI instruments; what next? Whatever happened to the 'will' and its wordings, whatever happened to the names told to friends in office? The fact of the matter is there are people in our society who tend to become the king-maker in their own minds and hence their ego trips get better of them. Same is the case with this gentleman. Let their be independent inquiry, and see who carried out this attack. The egotistic maniacs in the garb of journalist will soon find out they are mere mortals!

@expat
Apr 27, 2014 02:41am

It will be a long and painful fight for Mr.Hamid Mir.Its painful and disappointing to see that even the likes of Imran Khan cannot see the point.The point is to have a modern state with rule of law.No one is above the law.There are no sacred cows.All are accountable.Its becoming clear that Hamid Mir may be alone in his quest for justice ( himself and for all).As for Imran Khan ,was there any truth to the PML-N's pre-election allegations that ISI is supporting him?.May Allah give him strength and the will to stand fast in the face of state oppression.Ameen.

Sher
Apr 27, 2014 02:50am

Hamid Mir - You are again messing up things against your self, do you think that the people who are threatening you from doing Capital Talk or your columns and ISI will kill you or will ask you to leave the country, you are very wrong and out of your mind. Now we believe that they are your Masters following you and your life.

Ayesha
Apr 27, 2014 03:02am

What Mr Hamid Mir is saying is very confusing, what does he mean by ISi within IS? is he blaming the entire ISI, or any particular person from the ISI? Besides, how can he be sure that those people who came to meet him as friends, and delivered the message were really from the ISI, what evidence he has for this, if any person comes to him or get in touch with him via mobile and say i am from ISI, does it mean that person is telling the truth. And most importantly in case if this was the matter, then those who target you do not reveal their identities, if ISI is against Mr Mir why would they expose themselves? Moreover, why now, Mr Mir is talking about these threats, why he did not confess, or investigate though the proper channels that he was getting threats from such people who claim to be from the ISI. Only confiding with your immediate family is not something prudent when the situation is so serious. It really doesn't make sense, he is changing his statements very frequently, and this is something quiet dubious.

Justice
Apr 27, 2014 03:15am

Who cares Hamid Mir,ISI has much bigger things to worry about than you,I guess as always he is trying to exploit the situation in his favour to raise the rating of his program.

Amir Mahmood
Apr 27, 2014 03:29am

This sounds like the Bourne movie, where some members of law enforcement agencies were corrupt and they want to kill Jason Bourne. Hamid Mir disclosed some ISI officials would be involved in his attempted murder and he is not saying the entire ISI is corrupt. No body is above the law, let the judicial system play its part.

Ahmed
Apr 27, 2014 03:30am

He is working on to be a politician and join his brothers.

Ali Yusuf
Apr 27, 2014 03:51am

ISI should atleast spare it's own people. Sad part is anchors from other tv companies are not supporting this brave man. They are harming themselves. Don't find much difference between Taliban and ISI.

Shahid Khan
Apr 27, 2014 04:02am

I am from Pak military background. My family thinks this way "we are the only true patriotic, smartest people of Pakistan. Civilians can not run this country. " This sort of mentality is destroying Pakistan slowly and steadily.

Shahid Khan
Apr 27, 2014 04:05am

Bottom line is that there should be accountability of military establishment. Please build a system of checks and balance to make Pakistan a developed country!

Anwar Amjad
Apr 27, 2014 04:28am

Nobody is blind enough to see how strongly people have reacted against Hamid Mir. Knowing that he has no future in Pakistan, he is trying to find excuses to leave the country with some dignity – a futile exercise!

Nizamuddin Ahmmad Aali
Apr 27, 2014 04:38am

This is very serious folks. The very same agency is supposed to protect the basic rights of Mr. Mir is threatening him to harm again. I believe Mr. Mir. I have heard similar stories from anchors on air on other network. The ISI has gone too far. Surprisingly some so called fair minded journalists are openly beating the drum for army which disturbs lot of Pakistan. I pray for Mr.. Hamid that God Almighty give him courage to fight for his and my motherland. Pakistan Zindabad..

Shahpur
Apr 27, 2014 05:04am

Turkish Parliament has just passed the law and it has come into effect givining its Intelligence Agencies Immunity and Power to prosecute news media for leaks and so on. Similar law should come into effect in Pakistan, giving Pakistani Intelligence Immunity and power to prosecute News Media for leaks and so on. Pakistan is at war at home and on its borders and that is enough reason to enforce such a law.

NHM
Apr 27, 2014 05:19am

"ISI within ISI" another useless angle created by a cornered Hamid Mir. Unfortunately for him, his brother's utterances spoiled his chance of exploiting his own injuries ,now he is trying to create some sort of sensationalism to give a life support to his career.

Fazal
Apr 27, 2014 05:22am

Journalist community should support and stand by with Hamid Mir for the cause of freedom. He is an honest and loyalist to country. No one should be above the law, including head of intelligence agencies. Those behind the attack on Hamid Mir must be exposed and punished, though it is very unlikely in country like Pakistan.

Anwar Amjad
Apr 27, 2014 05:36am

Apparently Hamid Mir is trying to change his allegation. He is now putting the blame on a group within ISI instead of the agency itself. He should not be allowed to wriggle out and must be subjected to the full force of the law. This will be a lesson to other journalists who indulge in loose talk in the media.

Baba
Apr 27, 2014 05:38am

Bring ISI under civilian government and legal system. Right now they are threatening democracy.

Shyam
Apr 27, 2014 05:56am

When Citizens fear their own military democracy is dead. All powerful protector inside is more dangerous than enemy outside.

Syed Ahmed
Apr 27, 2014 05:57am

All allegations are bogus. He is following some agenda. Regarding details of his flight, timings of his arrival at Karachi airport and the route the rental care shall take to Geo’s office are best known to the Geo high ups and the driver. Most importantly, why the car was not handed over to the police, and taken away for a wash. Why the driver of the car and the security guard was also whisked away. Who took the last two actions and on whose orders? ISI, the worlds top security agency doesn’t do such petty things and has much more important job to do.

Tommy
Apr 27, 2014 06:02am

What a mess.

M. Saeed Awan
Apr 27, 2014 06:13am

Only ISI issue licence that who is patriotic and can stay in Pakistan. This is really worrisome report that still he is being threatened rather approaching to moderate policy. Both can sit together and formulate future policy of 'right' 'wrong'. It simply means that freedom of speech is gone away. Imran Khan really disappointed as before. He still needs years to be matured [politician.

omer adhia
Apr 27, 2014 06:17am

It seems like there is a lot of weight to what Hamid Mir is saying. Knowing the past, you can't rule anything out.

Syed Husain
Apr 27, 2014 06:30am

Just a few words for Hamid Mir - proof it

Najma Rafique Ansar
Apr 27, 2014 06:32am

Oh Allah which kind of lair is this man. Now it is ISI within ISI. Now really waiting what next.

Nasser KN
Apr 27, 2014 06:41am

Capture the attackers if you want to prove that his accusation is false.

Khurram
Apr 27, 2014 07:21am

People are commenting that Hamid needs to prove it - why? If you are shot by some gunmen, is it your duty to prove who did it? Police and ISI simply needs to get hold of people who attacked Hamid and prove him wrong. If such senior journalist can't get support of Police then who stands a chance in this country. At least, people must stop their silly comments and urge the authority to bring the culprits out and get the truth.

Amjad Wyne
Apr 27, 2014 07:28am

@Nasser KN No system in the world works in the manner you are proposing. Accused has no responsibility to prove its innocence until the accuser has proven its side. Hamid Mir must stop this non-sense. His account in this article sounds as if he is hallucinating.

Sid
Apr 27, 2014 07:38am

They killed Bangalis,they are killing Sindhi and Baluch and if some one raise voice for those victims, the accused Intelligent service kill him too. Hamid Mir is brave guy. Salute to him. Wish him good health soon.

ahmer
Apr 27, 2014 07:39am

Salute to hamid mir bravery. After iftikhar ch. He is standibg upto the isi. He has openly said what everyone knows

ST
Apr 27, 2014 07:40am

No one buys this anymore - The media group is trying to project him as great and equal to the topmost leaders of our beloved country - just stop playing in the hands of the enemy of Pakistan.

Shaukat
Apr 27, 2014 08:02am

If Hamid Mir accuses ISI, there must be some fact which everyone is denying. Why ISI should not bring forward the named persons in Hamid's statement. If that is found true strict action against the individual of ISI be taken as he might be angry and doing it as a lone action. Why is this not possible? Individuals might act alone not in line with ISI policy, Why are they making huge cry. It is childish to not believe at all and just deny all allegations. If Hamid has got such threats, it should be inquired and fixed.

event horizon
Apr 27, 2014 08:17am

This is a deep mess. Journalists cross their professional boundaries every day. They are paid by secret hands (domestic and foreign). Journalists become part of the power maze. In that power game, there are dangers. When attacked, they try to hide behind freedom of expression. Hamid Mir apparently did just that. He exposed a secret service agency when he was threatened (if he was). For years and years, journalists work for the hidden forces (domestic and foreign). As long as the money is coming in, they are happy and continue propaganda in favor of those that pay them. When things go sour for some reason, then this hue and cry. If this journalist was true professional, he would not be attacked. No secret service agency kills people for holding different opinions. It is a sad situation where everyone transgresses their professional limits. Some take name of national interest and some of journalistic freedom. Both lie.

Javed Ashraf
Apr 27, 2014 08:24am

A bit too glib an accusation. The whole nation sympathizes with the Baloch missing persons and Hamid Mir's coverage was certainly not enough to incite a murderous attack! What about him and his Taliban friends/contacts? They too obtain complete details about their targets before they attack.

If the ISI is as good as everybody (India, America, Hamid Mir) claims they are, would they really botch up such an attempt?

Khalid
Apr 27, 2014 08:30am

Playing with words. "ISI within ISI, and the ISI within is Jihadi Groups". Absurd in short. Geo Group has gone mad.

andor
Apr 27, 2014 08:30am

Wow! We were always saying that the taliban is like a Pakistan inside Pakistan .. Now this guy comes and says, there is another layer of mystery. An ISI inside the ISI.

siddharth
Apr 27, 2014 08:36am

ISI a champion at this. Mir is right , and hope the judges don't investigate like they investigated in case of hafis sayeed.

Riaz
Apr 27, 2014 08:41am

If ISI did this it may never prove,no one will get punishment.ISI needs to understand the meaning of patriotism.Every pakistani loves pakistan.I mean to say every civilian love army and mother land but they need respect our opinion.We live in civilized world technologies made the world global village hiding to many thing is not possible.Army needs to update their minds.

ashfaq
Apr 27, 2014 08:45am

ISI is well organized only to put an umbrella under their hit-man. They are never aware of the true enemies of Pakistan.

Mansoor Sajid
Apr 27, 2014 09:02am

What an irresponsible statement on the part of H. Mir made on BBC. It is the same BBC, wich played a major part during 1971 war blaming squarely Pakistan Army for situation in the then East Pakistan. It's high time that Government should abandon its dual stand and come out clearly to safeguard and support the respect and honor of Pakistan Army

Amjad Wyne
Apr 27, 2014 09:09am

@Shyam Pakistani citizens love Pakistan's military. It should be obvious to you from the number of favorable comments and the number of recommends across Dawn's news and reports. No need to pour oil on Pakistan's internal debate. In this particular case, the government and the army are pursuing constitutional option available to them. A three judge commission is set up to get to the bottom of it. Not perfect by any stretch of imagination but nothing shabby when compared to India.

AKA
Apr 27, 2014 09:35am

@Nasser KN Who attacked General Mushtaq ? Who attacked prade lane ? If they were terrorists then that means in your country terrorists have sources to be knowing where the target is and what are his timings. Now Hamid Mir should prove charges and if not a case should be initiated against him for defaming Pakistanis wround the world. My truth is what I know and your truth is what you know, and our both truth will be from our good intentions but it is not necessary that we both match in our thoughts. So what is the common ground that we both must protect ? For me it is national interest because people like Hamid Mir again are like us, with limited resources or with resources of one mind set so they don't have the right to be dictating their point of view to us.

Minuit
Apr 27, 2014 09:49am

Why Mr. Hamid Mir car were not fitted with video camera to capture the faces of the attackers and live video. He is in show business for a long time.. No common sense in Pakistan.. Just like Mr. Imran Khan -- were not prepared for a medical emergency, no first aid, not stretcher, no standby ambulance.

Zak
Apr 27, 2014 09:49am

He should give solid proof of his accusation against ISI but also proof that he is not working for RAW and CIA, the common perception in the country.

Zak
Apr 27, 2014 09:52am

@Shyam you mean like Kashmir, Assam and chatisgarh.

khanm
Apr 27, 2014 09:59am

what is the truth only heavens knows.. Pakistan has become the dirty battle field for every one, for terrorist, for politicians, for agencies, for media, for general public... folks When one person makes an accusation, check to be sure he himself is not the guilty one. Sometimes it is those whose case is weak who make the most clamour.

khanm
Apr 27, 2014 10:00am

@Ahmed Ahmed my dear Guilt has very quick ears to an accusation.

Mrs.rizwan khan
Apr 27, 2014 10:00am

Some journalist cry wolf wolf just to get western media attention, others malign their own country for same reason plus other benefits. Most journalists in Pakistan never care to get their facts straight and try to indulge in yellow journalism, the reason for all this is that most of them have not got mass communication degree and have come to name and fame by printing malicious stories on one or two famous people which has been their stepping stone to success and thus it becomes their basic pattern and for some editors these stories sell ,and so does paper this vicious circle thus gave birth to many such journalists unfortunately in Pakistan. The information ministry has failed to check on this , it became a pawn in this game playing one against the other, rewarding some such papers via dishing out advertisement and thus the game goes on with governments changing hands. There are some very good analysts, reporters in Pakistan undoubtedly, and they have often played the role of bridge between Government and people, but Hamid Mir is certainly not one of them , he enjoyed playing people versus government and in my opinion fanning flames of dissension.Mrs.Rizwan khan, retired, principal information officer and director general information ministry.

khanm
Apr 27, 2014 10:07am

@Syed Husain Well that's true, and what is actually happening now is that there are accusations that none of those records contain conspiratorial information and if it does it should not be concealed from the people and that is a dangerous situation that just cannot be tolerated. people has the right now but not in Pakistan.

AKA
Apr 27, 2014 10:07am

Initially the blame was that cameras were off at the time of incident and how it is possible that cameras were off. Now when that issue has been settled that cameras were off because of Loadshedding and they only had 15 mins backup, the new blame is who can choose the perfect corner where there was no camera near by.

khanm
Apr 27, 2014 10:10am

@Nasser KN it is just a media trial. they have the power to mold our brain in to any thing....A trial without witnesses, when it involves a criminal accusation, a criminal matter, is not a true trial.

Khan
Apr 27, 2014 10:24am

it's too much and needs to be stopped without delay

mohsin
Apr 27, 2014 10:26am

So when is Hamid Mir, his brother and most of all Geo apologize to DG ISI ?

Ahmad
Apr 27, 2014 10:36am

So Hamid Mir within Hamid Mir can blame within a blame any organization within an organization doesn't make make much sense in a sense.

Ravi Dallas TX
Apr 27, 2014 10:43am

Someone criticizes Islam, kill him with blasphemy law. Someone raises voice against ISI, then kill him stamping him as anti national. But Terrorists are great , their killing of thousands of innocents is great and justified. Great logic!.

anony
Apr 27, 2014 11:24am

Pak army zindabad. ISI zindabad.

liz
Apr 27, 2014 11:28am

@Syed Husain

You are forgetting we are living in a country where nothing can be proved about these people.

Khangul
Apr 27, 2014 11:34am

@Khurram "Police and ISI simply needs to get hold of people who attacked Hamid and prove him wrong".Why ISI?

Imran
Apr 27, 2014 12:46pm

An attack on a journalist is an attack on the freedom of the people of Pakistan and their right of access to the truth. The ISI has a mandate to provide border and internal security, nothing more. It has no legal authority to tap, intimidate or "interview" law abiding journalists - these crimes must stop. Threatening harm to people is a crime, criminals must be prosecuted.

omar
Apr 27, 2014 12:52pm

Jang Group has crushed the ethics of journalism and Mir is no more right to stay in this part of world. His each and every sentence is anti Pak and full of frustration. Hate him from core of heart..

Iqbal
Apr 27, 2014 12:57pm

Prediction: Hamid Mir will either leave the country before the end of this year (possibly summers) or will be dead already. The people he has messed with are determined.

Besides that, those who ask of proof are correct but they don't understand one thing about threats. Going public with such the name of the suspected party responsible is considered one of the best ways to survive. Now if Hamid Mir dies, everyone will strongly suspect ISI, everyone sensible that is.

Last but not least, when our Intelligence Agencies want something hidden, it stays hidden in this country. So go ahead, keep asking for proofs like a naive person while the agencies use this "rational argument" to wreak havoc. He'll never find definitive proof incriminating elements of ISI but the "real culprits" will also never be found. I bet my life on that. That acceptance of TT-Punjab was also a lame and a bit too late attempt to cover.

azhar
Apr 27, 2014 12:59pm

@Nasser KN As a rule, the one who accuses, proves his accusations. Tomorrow i will accuse America of the economic mess in the country and tell them to clear themselves of the accusation ...

ali
Apr 27, 2014 01:01pm

hamid mir is not journalist, he is a anchor man, who puts his words in his guest mouth and jamat islami leaser had to resign, he does not report the news, he wants to create sensation news. Missing person case has been started long ago, but why he is threat now, All i know is what ever comes out from his mouth is lie.

jahanbaig
Apr 27, 2014 01:06pm

I just red a few comment from my countryfellows about Hamid mir incedent.i must say that those comments has make my beleave more firm that our society lost its balanced way of thinking as a whole.in our every action and reaction extremeism and unbalance approch is very much obvious.everybody know that in pakistan a weak person can never prove a strong person guilty.and let me say one more thing when someone get hert or killed on the hands of unknowns its states lawinforcmentagencies duty to bring the culprit to justice.A victim of crime can and have legal right to point towards his or her expected enemy.so the alleged enemy has right to prove that allegations were false or wrong.Bottom line is justice mustbe served to the victim of crime .Its the law of the civilised nations.And human society can only servive by following the rules of the law.Not with passionate comments or unbalaced and unlogical views.

Jehanzeb Idrees
Apr 27, 2014 01:08pm

@omer adhia

What past sir? Can you cite a single authentic or established proof to prove your statement?

It's a sheer tragedy, that people of his calibre and standard are today the leading anchor persons, which in itself speaks volumes of media in Pakistan. Hamid Mir had and has always been an opportunistic wannabe, he plays safely between the religious and liberal lines in this country by appeasing both. At first during the 90s, he propelled himself as a religious-conservative-fundo while at the helm of Daily Ausaaf (and precisely why Alqaida invited him in to interview UBL) and later joined the liberal bandwagon during Musharraf and later Zardari days. It's the height of intellectual (if any) criminality that people like you come out to support a self-seeker like him, someone who completely embodies yellow-journalism in all it's manifestations in this poor country.

Ahmer
Apr 27, 2014 01:09pm

I am no fan of either Hamid Mir or our army or ISI however this is getting to a point of retardedness. First of all, these agencies are not that "incompetent". If they want to take out someone, that someone stays OUT. Now for Hamid Mir, first he and his cohorts went full throttle against the army and then because of public backlash they kind of retreated their statement and now again but a bit different words with the same tune are being sung again. He is another screen saver.

Ahmer
Apr 27, 2014 01:13pm

Also all those who are ranting against those who are asking for proof from Hamid Mir, are forgetting something important. Let's say when you are shot, it is the duty of the police to find the culprits. If you have doubt on someone you tell it to the police and they do their investigation. In Mr. Mir's case he is blatantly and openly accusing army. He is not doubtful. He is in fact sure and full of confidence that army did it. Since he is beyond doubt then he needs to PROVE it. If he was simply "thinking aloud" then you'll leave it to investigation.

excalibur
Apr 27, 2014 01:20pm

@Khurram when you name a person and accuse him the burden of proving that is on you i. e Hamid mir

Alam
Apr 27, 2014 01:22pm

Freedom of expression: establishment dictionary do not contain this word.

excalibur
Apr 27, 2014 01:23pm

@Fazal why ??? the same person always shouted that Musharraf is an individual not the Army so Hamid is also an individual and must face investigation why should the media or the journalist community protect him unfairly Rule of Law must prevail

Ravi Dallas TX
Apr 27, 2014 01:24pm

The guy was just shot and recovering, give the guy benefit of doubt. Too much hatred here just becashe he does not agree with you?

excalibur
Apr 27, 2014 01:25pm

@@expat what justice ? maligning the Army and the Judiciary is a violation of the Constitution. Period Media and politicians are public property and the Constitutuion does not give them the same privilege and rightly so

bilawal ali
Apr 27, 2014 01:26pm

people says that he is a senior journalist and a shrewd person.But the way he is making statements neither he is helping himself nor the masses of this country. He is just adding to the confusion of an ordinary man nothing else.

excalibur
Apr 27, 2014 01:31pm

@omer adhia Please give facts and refarin from armchair speculation

Hamza E
Apr 27, 2014 02:09pm

He is wrong. It is actually "ISI within ISI within ISI".

ahmed_456@yahoo.com
Apr 27, 2014 02:12pm

@Syed Husain he is not a detective, the burden of proof stays on the agencies

Akram
Apr 27, 2014 03:00pm

@Mansoor Sajid If you read the report of the Hamoodur Rehman Commission, you will find even the Pakistani Judiciary blamed the army for 1971! The BBC did not kill all those people, why blame the media for reporting what is happening? Its their job to tell us what he happening behind the scenes, hidden from view. It is after all your tax money that is going into the salaries of all these army people.

basharat
Apr 27, 2014 03:32pm

The attack on Hamid Mir has been profusely discussed on electronic as well as print media, surprisingly enough, non of his friends, relatives and any other well wisher came forward to lodge formal FIR so that the investigation could promptly be set in motion. After waiting many days, the FIR has been lodged by a police official against unknown assailants. T V panels, acting like courts of law had lavishly discussed pros and cons of the crime which may be helpful increase the T V ratings and fame of some individuals nevertheless, it is of little benefit towards the investigation. If some one thinks that General Zaheerul Islam will be arrested or proceeded against, merely on bases of verbal statement on media should know, such miracles do not occur any where, it requires some credible evidence which has not come forth so far.

fb
Apr 27, 2014 03:40pm

@Khurram for that to happen mir has to stop making silly accusations. There are tooooo many holes in this story. Get some sense, a guy gets shot six times and a week later he is back giving interviews. Looks like a indian movie. Why was the FIR field after 4 days, why were there so many discrepancies in the FIR, why are the driver n guard not being handed over to police, why did my the guard shot bk, do you need more mr. Khurram

imran
Apr 27, 2014 03:50pm

How can he blame army, isi etc etc. They are angles with guns and power. They are the only patriotic pakistanis. They have a a completely flawless past.......Everyone will have to recite this poem if they want to live in Pakistan.

Harmony
Apr 27, 2014 04:01pm

@Khurram

“If you are shot by some gunmen, is it your duty to prove who did it?” True!

Going by the same logic then what right does Mir have to accuse our elite ISI – no.1 of the top 10 in the world? If a “responsible” journalist does that then the burden of proof falls on the journalist. Ever heard of investigative journalism!!!

S Chaudhury
Apr 27, 2014 04:29pm

He is an enemy agent & paid by the them Geo TV source of funding must be investigated & dealt with immediately

Rose
Apr 27, 2014 04:58pm

@Baba They cannot even run government, how can that ISI can be under them. Hang these traitors who are against Pakistan and Pak Army.

shahzad
Apr 27, 2014 05:30pm

@Shahid Khan Bravo for your truthful statement

Syed Husain
Apr 27, 2014 05:32pm

@Javed Ashraf Hats off for Javed Ashraf's comment. I wish rest of us were as enlightened and worldly wise as Mr. Ashraf.

Nasser KN
Apr 27, 2014 06:01pm

@Amjad Wyne it is the duty of the state to bring the perpetrators of crime to the court, then ask the plaintiff to present witness or any other proof against the accused.

FATIMA
Apr 27, 2014 06:16pm

dont act SO INNOCENT mr.MIR!!!!!.....if you keep pocking your finger into secret matters of the country then consequences are not good and it's also not good for your own country!!!!....so you really want to dif the truth!!! then try to rveal all the world wide assessts of shareef family and zaradri and all the BUSINESS MINDED families who dont pay taxes and try to rule this country so that they can modify the laws for their own use!!!!!..... DONT TRY TO FOOL YOURSELF OR THE PEOPLE!!! THEU ARE MUCH AWARE NOW AS COMPARED TO TEN YEARS BACK!!!

FATIMA
Apr 27, 2014 06:17pm

@I. Ahmed ...TRUE MR.AHMED!!!!

vinit
Apr 27, 2014 06:28pm

Even though this is a tragic incident, its good that he survived and the ongoing investigations will be beneficial to pakistani democracy and people on the whole.

MW
Apr 27, 2014 07:10pm

It is encouraging to see evolution of Media in Pakistan during the last twenty years. Media businesses do have partisan views and it is okay to belong to the military haters camp- let's now kid ourselves, Media after all, is a business and as such requires to exercise due care when expressing its views. Decide on the currency you want to use – sling mud and you will be slung with Mud… and whatever other stuff people may choose to throw at you. Tyranny of media is just as bad as tyranny of military. What Mr. Mir is experiencing are results of irresponsible and unbridled use of media. Let's not set back the progress of Media in Pakistan by letting your hubris get in the way of responsible business. It is not the Govt. or the military, journalist are every bit as responsible for continued freedom and growth of media. Lets not equate Freedom with Free-for-All. Mr. Mir you should consider listening to your friends more carefully.

Agha Ata
Apr 27, 2014 07:19pm

The term of "ISI within the ISI" is a great term. It explains a lot to a common man like me. It certainly stretches our imagination. Who knows if there is an ISI within ISI within the ISI.

ijaz
Apr 27, 2014 07:32pm

@Shahid Khan By all means you are not from a military family, or there is some serious fault in you or your family. No one thinks like that in the Army........

Nizauddin Ahmad Aali
Apr 27, 2014 08:30pm

@Shahpur You are blinded. Turkey is no Pakistan. Turkey has increased its GDP 17 % per year for the last 17 years, which is unheard of. People are happy with the civilian government. There is transparency in the system. This happened after the current government killed or jailed all the Kamali generals. Generals in Pakistan are kings even after retirement although they deserve nothing.

Taimoor Khan
Apr 27, 2014 08:51pm

I do not recall anyone in past who after being on receiving end and on wrong side of event, instead of getting sympathy, is being loathed and rubbished. This overall behavior of Pakistani nation in general cannot and should not be ignored and clearly shows with whom their collective support lies.

Ravi Dallas TX
Apr 27, 2014 08:57pm

Looking at comments, Pakistanis hate to death anyone who opposes ISI or army. May be Pakistan deserves its current state with this attitude.

Sardar Khan
Apr 27, 2014 08:59pm

Day by day Mr.Hamid Mir is proving that his backers have lost all the plot and showing him a very confused man. Can he prove his claims against the people who are supposed to be his friends but in reality are from ISI with in ISI.What a confused person he is? Why he is talking to BBC?Is a prelude to ask for asylum in UK.? Jung & Geo group have lost the plot and must apologise to the Army and People of the country for creating this mess.

Azmat Khan
Apr 27, 2014 09:29pm

Hamid Mir is a very brave journalist.His father, Waris Mir was also a brave journalist and writer.He fought Zia ul Haq very bravely and never bent.

Masood Haider
Apr 27, 2014 09:35pm

Pakistani journalists in US are with Hamid Mir on the issue of ISI and its role.

Azmat Shah
Apr 27, 2014 10:35pm

DG ISI is supposed to be the strongest man in the ISI not an "ISI within the ISI? His brother implicated him directly by name and Hamid Mir has backed his brother's earlier statement. Also, TTP's Shahidullah Shahid's first reaction after the incident was in favour of hamid Mir where he was praised as a brave journalist who was standing up to the establishment. So all this he saying now doesnt add up somehow.

Shams
Apr 27, 2014 10:42pm

@Sher , Talk to the family of Saleem Shehzad killed. He was killed while being tortured by ......... Talk to the family of missing political activist who are missing and are still missing.

Wachucha
Apr 28, 2014 01:22am

@Azmat Khan and what about ancestors Mir Jaafer and Mir Sadiq?

Safar Shah
Apr 28, 2014 01:34am

@I. Ahmed , Has independent inquiry ever produced anything in Pakistan? Saleem Shahzad was murdered but the inquiry got blocked with ISI was asked to give information.

Rex Minor
Apr 28, 2014 02:29am

Fear me and no one else, is what the God almighty commands. Those who ventured to harm Hamid Mir are fools and committed a blunder ... this jounalist has the blessing of the almighty... no one can harm such people! Now they must face the consequences . This is what the scriptures say and will transpire.

Rex Minor

Bkh
Apr 28, 2014 03:49am

“Major Wajahat” called him during a live show and despite giving the authorities all the details nothing has been done as yet." (Dawn)

any person could call and say that he is Major X or Y. Why he would be called when on the show? except to add to his publicity. The journalist should have disconnected the Call, take the number, call back that would have disclosed the Callers correct verifiable number.

I am of the view that Journalist Meer should seek counselling for his problem.

Iqbal
Apr 28, 2014 04:07am

Careless and irresponsible actions of network Geo and it's correspondent Hamid Mir have not only dented the progress of free media speech in a Country that strived this progress for decades but have also left themselves open to libel action from PEMRA and ISI itself. The third repercussion of these actions are on the foreign and domestic affairs. Hamid Mir and GEO have displayed no professionalism and integrity in the recent developments. Govt on the other hand is playing the devils advocate by appointing a judicial commission. A JC will have no oversight or investigatory power to come up with a solid conclusion. A police along with forensic investigation is essential for getting to the truth of these allegations. Hamid mir has contradicted himself by airing supposed threats that him and no one else knows about. Neither the Govt or any law enforcement agencies are aware of these threats beforehand. Hamid mir is tracking back from calling the Head of ISI the responsible party to 'ISI within ISI' being responsible. Only if he could hear himself as he sounds more and more like a conspiracy theorist without any substantial evidence aiming for cheap publicity. Govt inaction and failure of GEO to issue a full-on apology will open doors to another martial law. Men and women of the Armed forces do not belong to a foriegn corporation. They define Pakistan by it's very existence. They do not deserve to be treated in this despicable manner as such.

zafarov
Apr 28, 2014 05:01am

@Shahpur The Turkish Parliament has passed that law because an audio recording of a meeting of Turkish diplomats and intelligence officials, including the Foreign Minister and the head of Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization was leaked and posted on YouTube. In a devastating exposure of the criminality of the US-led proxy war in Syria, Turkish officials have been caught planning an attack on their own forces to manufacture a pretext to attack Syria. In other words a false flag operation. Now they're shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

Najamuddin
Apr 28, 2014 05:59am

There been only a few power ambitious generals or senior officers because of who Pakistan suffered the evils of 4 Martial laws and fall of half the Country during the rule of an army dictatorship. The rest half of Pakistan has been surrendered by the last army dictator at the hands of terrorists and secessionists, religious militants, extortionists and deadly marauders of peace, humanity and the Nation so much so that I have read in newspapers that there may be not a single industrialists, business man and commercial people who are left without extortion notice 90% of whom do not report because of fear of live and security of them and family? Is this the Pakistan for which great Quaid-e-Azam, the founder members of Pakistan Movement and millions of Indian Muslims had given unprecedented sacrifices? Except a handful officers overwhelming majority of the generals, officers and 100 % of the soldiers are always the most honest and truly patriotic soldiers and sons of Pakistan and entire Nation has always loved, respected and supported them by heart and soul. When the ordinary citizens lodged their reports with allegation against two Muslim Khalifae Rashid and Heads of the Islamic Caliphate of the time both of them submitting to the superiority of the laws of land, presented themselves in front of the Court Qazi (Judge). Is any Muslim King, Ruler or general is superior than those great Khulfae Rashedoons? This is in the best interest of Pakistan, freedom of journalism and democracy that all the 3 parties, Geo, Govt and Armed forces in stead of personal ego should please, give top priority to the superiority of laws and justice, peace and prosperity of the Nation. I never been a supporter of late Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto nor of PPP or of any religious or political party, but when after long Army Rule half of Pakistan was surrendered and about 90000 armed and security personnel handed over their weapons at the hands of Indian army, Bhutto had said in his first statement that, " the oppressed people of Pakistan have been humiliated so much and for so long by the mighty elements that now this collective humiliation of the oppressors and the oppressed equally, was but according to the laws of nature". These words of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto will keep on haunting me till memory is alive.

ahmed hasan
Apr 28, 2014 06:06am

Mir Mir, may you recover soon. However, it's not ISI. If it was ISI, they would have blown your car with a bomb and it would have been the end

Suresh Nayak
Apr 28, 2014 07:23am

@Shahpur Be very careful what you ask for bro, tomorrow they will land at your place, just imagine if you brother or sisters have different ideas than you and they are victim of these so called forces then you are in deep deep trouble. Never ever wish for this as we know what happened when Indira Gandhi declared emergency in India, the police can come and pick up anyone at anytime, and you dont have any control over it. I wish sane mind will prevail.

Suresh Nayak
Apr 28, 2014 07:30am

@Javed Ashraf You answered your own question Javed, if the ISI is as good as others?? If they were good they would have known where Bin Laden was, or were they???????

Shahzad
Apr 28, 2014 11:08am

Civilian government is not competent enough to run this country. Look the credential of any federeal minister they are not worth their salt. They cannot talk intellectually yeah they can talk loosly against any one who reason. All the day night they advocate democracy. People want employment, security, electricity, gas low inflation and the list goes on.

Shahzad Ahmed
Apr 28, 2014 01:00pm

@Suresh Nayak Who knows if Bin Laden actually lived there. who saw the dead body. still remains mystery

Syed Nasir Mehdi
Apr 28, 2014 01:18pm

Pak Army needs us and we support it.

sadia
Apr 28, 2014 02:23pm

@Ayesha very true... @ 1st GEO & Mir's brother directly blamed ISI chief & some other ppl in ISI, then whole ISI, and now ISI within ISI ..... hamid mir seems suspicious !

Muhammad Arshad
Apr 28, 2014 02:37pm

Mr Hamid Mir, the whole country is stand still because of the confusions and lies that you are spreading. Why dont you simply name those who are culprits instead of giving confusing messages. Have mercy on us.

Khalid
Apr 28, 2014 04:54pm

Please try to understand,,, the strings are being pulled of Mir from somewhere else,,, I am sure that the sting close to Amam Bari shrine are the one instigating and hatching such conspiracies,,,, to get absolute power,,, he is one of mora for them,,, but he and they did not release that they will face such a reaction,,,, Allah help them as they cannot help themselves,, Whosoever tried to played with our motherland and it's institutions see his/her fate,,, revenge from Allah,,,

Wachucha
Apr 28, 2014 05:43pm

@Shahid Khan yes, I was field marshal. Any one can claim anything without proof these days especially on media.

Ahmer
Apr 28, 2014 07:09pm

Everyone knows who tried to kill Hamid Mir and everyone also knows that the Judicial Commission will say. So, why waste public money and not just close the case as untraceable, something that is going to happen in any case after millions have been spent on the Judicial Commission.

Zak
Apr 29, 2014 12:27am

@Ravi Dallas TX only a Pakistani knows why he supports and stands by the Army, ISI and the armed forces. Other nations will not understand. That is why those who perpetrated this crisis have misjudged poorly and it has failed.

W.Shaikh
Apr 29, 2014 02:34am

@@expat

I appreciate your comments and it is important that all citizens raise their voices against the injustice. An attempt was made on Hamid Mir's life and it should be investigated. Any one found guilty must be punished to the fullest extent of law. No one is above the law.

Peaceful Protestor
Apr 29, 2014 08:33am

ISI is a great institution. It has achieved remarkable feats in the past. It has successfully defeated KGB, and even today is at war with not one but many top of the line spy agencies of the world, which have formed their nexus in Afghanistan and are doing every possible efforts with unlimited amount of resources to defeat ISI. Even today, all the neutral experts and analysts of spy agencies rate ISI as the best in the world.

However, there are certain sections in our society, which are wary of ISI involvement in country's politics. There is no denying the fact that ISI has been involved in such activities largely at the behest of army chiefs who ruled the country and used ISI as their instrument to manipulate country's political dynamics.

Today, ISI is paying the price of this involvement. This great institution is now under attack by its very own people. Hamid Mir episode has brought this issue to the limelight. The way media group Hamid Mir belongs to mishandled the matter. There is no doubt about the fact that, ISI, in no way, should get itself engaged in local politics. They should strictly remain within their domain. They have served the country very well on international front and that's their real job. I believe that Army Chief who is thorough gentleman and a professional soldier will look into it and go through every possible detail to protect ISI from unnecessary criticism and if found any weakness in it, will take action accordingly.

I would like to conclude my comments with my utmost desire to see this great institution of Pakistan, the ISI, free from all blames. I believe ISI will serve Pakistan effectively in future as well.

Magic
Apr 29, 2014 10:58am

Fair and unbiased media is essential for democracy to thrive. People calling for restriction of media should realize they are calling for restriction against their own freedom. What if Mr. Mir was right? Any claim, true or false, must be investigated, else there is no point in having a democratic government.

parvez
Apr 29, 2014 12:45pm

I feel sorry for him but he is paranoid. If I go and see him, I will also ask him to leave for sometime. Would that make a messenger of ISI? I think his paranoia about ISI has been used by some other groups to target him. This has driven a wedge between Govt and Army. Was that the purpose of targeting Mir?

zafr
Apr 29, 2014 02:23pm

@Khurram Hamid Mir has done plenty to damage the country. I wonder why you cannot read between the lines of his reporting. Let events unfold we will know if he is telling the truth or otherwise. Why does he change statements on daily basis - please ponder on that and many other issues connected with the incident viz: Driver and the guard have still not recorded their statements. The car was washed and any forensic evidence was destroyed. On whose behest??? ISI ??? Eyewitness accounts state that their was hardly a few blood stains on the seats. Six bullets fired and no BLOOD. Give me a break !!!

zafr
Apr 29, 2014 02:25pm

@Shaukat He did not name anyone in the FIR ..please get your facts right. Thank you

zafr
Apr 29, 2014 02:31pm

@Ahmad hahahahah....very nicely put !!

A Pakistani
Apr 29, 2014 04:11pm

I wish Hamid Mir a fast and complete recovery. He is a brave and truthful journalist. Some power centers in our country are not ready to tolerate truth about their unlawful deeds, and go to any extent to punish those who don't talk in their favor. We have to go a long way before our country becomes a civilized society where powerful people and institutes don't take law into their own hands and tolerate the difference of opinion.

Salman Ahmad
Apr 29, 2014 05:06pm

I find it absurd that a person is attacked, almost losses his life for freedom of speech, and the reaction is to blame him and ask him for proof? It is no doubt that only the state or Taliban Would have the capacity to track and stage such opperation. It is the responsibility of the state to protect its citizens and find the assassins.

It is time to hold ISI accountable and bring it under control of civilian govt, as exist in all mature democracies with stability.

those who are pretending to be Pakistani patriots are tied to the army, or are paid to stir public opinion again media. We have seen the same happen against NGOs under Musharraf.

We can respect them, but we have to hold the police, army and ISI accountable. No one can be above the constitution.