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LONDON: A pilot believed to be working for Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has been arrested at a British airport on suspicion of being drunk in charge of a plane, police said on Thursday.
Officers were called on Wednesday evening to the airport serving the northern English cities of Leeds and Bradford where they arrested a 54-year-old man from Pakistan, a statement from West Yorkshire Police said.
The exact circumstances of the arrest were not entirely clear, although the pilot was not thought to be flying at the time.
“At about 10pm last night police were called to Leeds Bradford International Airport where they arrested an airline pilot on suspicion of carrying out an activity ancillary to an aviation function while impaired by drink,” police said.
“The 54-year-old man, from Pakistan, is currently in custody.”
PIA has immediately grounded and suspended one of its pilots upon violation of rules, a PIA Spokesperson said.
In a statement issued, he said the pilot was the captain of PK-776 from Leeds-Bradford to Islamabad.
"Due to unavailability of any alternate, the captain of the flight had to make a night stop at Leeds. Later, the flight departed with a delay of 15 hours."
He said the pilot is still in custody of British Police for further investigation.
Referring to another incident of indecent behavior by three flight stewards in Manchester, the spokesperson said that the management has also suspended them.
They were taken into custody by Manchester Police on complaint made by a British lady. The investigation is still in process.
The spokesperson said that PIA is not responsible for violation of rules or code of conduct committed by its employees.
"PIA will never provide legal or any kind of assistance nor support for individual's act of violation.
"Upon receipt of final report the violators will face further severe action according to rules of corporation," he concluded.
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif announced plans earlier this month to sell off a 26 per cent stake in the ailing national carrier, one of the poorest performing state-run companies in the country.
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Sep 19, 2013 07:30pm
As such PIA is operating with broken planes and now this drunken pilot. Only Allah can save people who travel by PIA.
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Sep 19, 2013 07:31pm
Is he a Muslim? Shame on him! Incharge of ther plane and hundreds of innocent lives!
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Sep 19, 2013 07:41pm
Tomorrow Nawaz Sharif will start selling stake in the country itself which too is ailing!
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Sep 19, 2013 07:42pm
Very surprising that a Pakistani is caught drinking. I thought Muslims don't drink alcohol.
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Sep 19, 2013 07:47pm
The PIA is out if control.,the staff is irresponsible , corrupand incompetent.
Responsible for the devastating situation of the national carrier.
I appeal Mia nawaz sharif to 100 percent ptivitasiation of PIA to correct the intubation urgently
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Sep 19, 2013 07:59pm
Fake..
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Sep 19, 2013 08:07pm
a lesson on how not to run an airline !
We were one of the best and taught others how to fly; We set up airlines for others and flew their best planes for them.
We've been to top and now we must descent. But please can we descent gracefully?
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Sep 19, 2013 08:04pm
No Wonder if he could be drunk when he headed for UK.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:11pm
Is the dawn croup happy now? You have achieved you goal of making Pakistan a secular country.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:18pm
really, if its true.
He should be fined and fired.
Should be penalized by shariah law as well, he did not wrong himself alone, he put lives all the passengers in danger too.
Strict action not a bizzare, OSD.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:21pm
Since he was going to be high in the Sky anyway, what is the difference in being high on the Ground? The man is consistent in his lifestyle!
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Sep 19, 2013 08:24pm
These are the REAL HEROES who keep building the reputation of our country.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:28pm
What a fool this pilot was! I wonder what he was thinking? You cannot get away with something as serious as drink driving or even drug driving in the UK...There goes his career and pilots licence!
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Sep 19, 2013 08:32pm
See the whole PIA, Privatise it 100%, the hell with these unions.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:42pm
We need to know the name of such individuals who bring shame to our country so that they can be shamed as well for the rest of their lives...comeon Dawn...do you journalistic duty and publish his name !!
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Sep 19, 2013 08:39pm
Typical trait of quota system products. When merit is superseded by quota, inefficiency due to incompetence flourish.
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Sep 19, 2013 09:06pm
Alhamdullilah! Subhanallah!
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Sep 19, 2013 09:11pm
I always thought Pakistanis do not drink.
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Sep 19, 2013 09:09pm
Sell the 90% shares of this airline to some foreign enterprise. they will run it efficiently.
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Sep 19, 2013 09:18pm
Why are we always scared of Naming these culprits who let down the country?
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Sep 19, 2013 09:45pm
This is exactly why I say we should close down the airline completely and give a chance to private airlines to compete with each other. What we should also do is not to allow any politicians (present or past) or for that matter anyone who had a senior position in the government to start an airline. These people with connections always win the contracts and we know exactly what happens when they do. We don't need an airline to carry the falg of the nation and bring disrepute to the whole nation, like this pilot did.
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Sep 19, 2013 09:49pm
If such a pilot would fly a plane you know then what will happen.
This pilot should be immediately fired from his services due to putting others life in danger.
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Sep 19, 2013 10:27pm
They only caught one? Did the rest 'fly away'?
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Sep 19, 2013 10:24pm
Not Great But Now GREATEST people to Fly with , what a news mamamia
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Sep 19, 2013 10:43pm
"The spokesperson said that PIA is not responsible for violation of rules or code of conduct committed by its employees" - I'm sure British Govt is responsible for their conduct :) Own up your employees PIA!
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Sep 19, 2013 10:51pm
Why PIA is not responsible for violation of rules and code of conduct committed by its employees? PIA is doomed because it has been overloaded with undeserving individuals. The staff level of PIA should be drastically reduced and must match with the operational requirements. The main problem of Pakistan steel and PIA is corruption and staff levels disproportionate to the requirements. Political parties must be stopped from destroying national institutions for petty political gains.
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Sep 19, 2013 10:52pm
Reminds me Amitabh dialogue from a movie "I leave Angraze behind"
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Sep 19, 2013 11:00pm
Drinking should never be stopped legally anywhere. It always finds a way that much more dangerous. Besides. when you close all sides, a little window must be kept open, otherwise people go crazy on a very very large scale and in a dangerous way. That's why it is open to drink in the west. If you see the history you will find that drinking was declared illegal at almost everyplace many times before it was considered wiser to keep it open. Pakistan is still experimenting. So far we have seen two results, the dangerous spread of heroin, and now the alcoholism.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:23pm
The problem with Pakistan people is does not know when and how to drink.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:28pm
PIA staff are quite well known to police in Manchester and London. They are famous for stealing stuff from shops and superstores. Privatisation is the only solution but again the whole society needs to be privatised and sanitised anyway.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:25pm
Pakistan Zindabad ,after the humiliation of Hockey ,cricket and all the depts now it is PIA .Wow one needs to standup and salute the nation .Incredible
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Sep 19, 2013 11:31pm
Why not garbage this plague for good and get rid of it
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Sep 19, 2013 11:34pm
""""Drunk Pakistan pilot arrested at British airport""""----- A REALLY VERY HIGH FOR THE PIA TOWARDS PRIVATIZATION BY THE PRESENT GOVERMENT. YOU FLY VERY HIGH WHEN THE PILOT IS HIGH.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:34pm
hmm another sad news for Pakistan....., hope they will get strict punishments and should be fired from PIA, We do need these pilots who is taking people's life on Risk.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:48pm
Quote from PIA " PIA is not responsible for violation of rules or code of conduct committed by its employees."
Someone needs to inform the idiots in charge of affairs at the corrupt and bankrupt pathetic excuse of an airline that employee conduct on job makes the company liable for all damages. If this man had been allowed to fly in a drunken state and crashed,PIA would have been held responsible regardless of weather PIA condones the behavior or not.
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Sep 20, 2013 12:01am
Yes! Stringent measures need to be enforced against the erring staff of this prestigious organisation (PIA is a national carrier serving major cities all around the world for the last 6 decades or so), and exemplary punitive action must be forthcoming without a second thought so as to deter any future violators in all aspects of public administration in Pakistan. This is a matter of national honour.....period!
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Sep 20, 2013 12:43am
I am not surprised. I was flying from Karachi to Lahore June last year with my wife. I noticed one of the flight attendant was drunk. I asked another employee, probably who was first officer before take of. His response was, " He is not the pilot ", meaning every one knew he was drunk. His movement was like a drunk person and I could smell alcohol in his breath. I do not drink being a Muslim, But i am pretty good judge. I have been traveling on international routes and do business with Arabs. I know when a person is drunk.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:19am
This is just game to make sure the PIA is sold in hurry and at very cheaper price
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Sep 20, 2013 01:32am
No wonder the name of the airline is "Pe Aiye Ayy" not PIA
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Sep 20, 2013 01:28am
Another incident Pakistan can be proud of.
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Sep 20, 2013 02:15am
Great people to fly with
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Sep 20, 2013 02:14am
Great drunk people to fly with!
Keep up the great work - happy landings!
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Sep 20, 2013 02:58am
He was unlucky to get caught but he is not alone--more than 50 percent of PIA pilots drink whilst on stopover in UK during the evening and night before the flight. The drinks are usually supplied to them by local based friends. The quid pro quo is that these friends are upgraded to business class.
If only an investigative journalist looked into this......but vain hope.
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Sep 20, 2013 03:09am
Why am I not surprised?
It is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Sep 20, 2013 04:07am
busted airlines ... drunken pilots, there's a title for you.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:08am
Another shameful act by Pakistanis.....god forbid if he was flying the plane also ????
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Sep 20, 2013 05:06am
And yet some people will say, drinking is personal issue.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:33am
PIA needs to be privatized at the earliest. The delays of PIA flights have become routine.
The staff wants to destroy the country's economy while forcing poor peasants and laborers to subsidize their salaries . This subsidy is gross injustice to the average Pakistani citizen when the money which should be spent on their children's education and health is being given to the staff of this most incompetent staff who want to blackmail the nation.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:44am
Some human beings just want to get intoxicated. You can't help it. If the alcoholic drink is available within their own country, and even if they drink everyday, they can, and do control themselves, but if they have to get the drink only while abroad, they drink heavily, firstly because they are so thirsty, and secondly because the chance to drink is so rare and temporary.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:41am
Some human beings just want to get intoxicated. You can't help it. If the alcoholic drink is available within their own country, and even if they drink everyday, they can, and do control themselves, but if they have to get the drink only while abroad, they drink heavily, firstly because they are so thirsty, and secondly because the chance to drink is so rare and temporary.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:47am
"The spokesperson said that PIA is not responsible for violation of rules or code of conduct committed by its employees".
If Employer is not responsible for Violation of Rules or Code of Conduct of its Employees then who is? If there are Rules and Code of Conduct then there must be its Aims and Objectives?
"PIA will never provide legal or any kind of assistance nor support for individual's act of violation.
Agreed, but then person or persons directly or indirectly affected by such violations are entitled to just and fair treatment within the purview of Moral, Legal and Social justice, will the PIA extend its assistance and support to its clients under the circumstances?
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Sep 20, 2013 06:50am
I am so glad, someone had to do this. Most of these pilots are drunk any way. If Pakistan is not going to do anything about this, someone else is going to do. I hope he stays in jail for some time. These people have no respect for their country.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:54am
Pakistan and Pakistanis are always in the news for "wrong reasons". What a shame and what a pity .
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Sep 20, 2013 07:22am
I'm sure there is a simple reason. The pilot probably thought he is in Lahore and could get away with drinking some tharrah!
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Sep 20, 2013 07:31am
Please do not bother MNS on this petty issue as he is already too busy in other affairs of the govt nor disturb the top ranked officials of PIA headed by the brother of Tariq Azeem. Drinking in UK is not a problem probably the pilot was tired & wanted to cool down.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:02am
I feel sorry for the Pilot. He was 54, probably have a family in Pakistan. Before heading to the dreamland (Pakistan), just wanted to have a drink and some fun, at the Airport. I wish him good luck. When he gets sober, I hope he thinks, that things in life happens, sometime for something better and good. Look it that way.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:04am
I totally agree with PIA's policy of not providing legal assistance for such acts. Let him rot in prison for all I care. Pakistan has had enough of bad press all over the world. Its time we put our house in order by getting rid of such rotten scoundrels. If PALPA has any sense of honour they too will refuse to support the drunk.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:35am
May be he should be handed over to Taliban, so that he can be punished properly according to Sharia laws.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:57am
The pilot who brought shame for the country need explenary punishment.Just supension from service is not enough.PIA needs thorough cleansing operation.Sooner our goverment start this operation better it is for the country.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:17am
I wonder what are rules of the corporation and how such violators were hired when they had character flaws?? Perhaps if PIA did not hire such "Great People to Fly With" but just normal decent citizens who could not arrange a phone call to the MD as a favor, the airline would not be in this mess.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:18am
It is good decision to hand over management of PIA to the private owners. This will at least leave the government from embarrassment of nefarious acts bringing disrepute to the country. Further, it will save the government from pouring tax payers money into the failed enterprise who lavishly squandering the money.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:54am
*We have no idea, how many are flying from Pakistan are drunk, no such tests are taken place in Pakistan*
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Sep 20, 2013 10:15am
If he is really convicted, he should be terminated immediately, and should be put case against on this serious matter
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Sep 20, 2013 10:15am
And I always take the direct PIA flight fromp Frankfurt to Islambad.
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Sep 20, 2013 11:01am
In Pakistan people jokingly refer to PIA standing for Perhaps I arrive ? With pilots like these it seems that this is no more a joke !
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Sep 20, 2013 11:02am
The snapshot of the aircraft is not correct. PIA is operating 777's on these routes, and this aircraft is not 777.
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Sep 20, 2013 11:29am
Seriously, PIA is not responsible. Firstly they hire employees totally on References. and what can you expect from referencial recruits. perhaps Public of Pakistan is responsible for this incident. who pay hafty taxes to support these drunk Government Officials
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Sep 20, 2013 11:48am
Drunk people to fly with.
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Sep 20, 2013 11:55am
@Syedrizvi:
Privatization is not the solution. To privatize something means you lose control of it and by control I mean income from it. PIA and Railways are the back bone of our country they generate income on which our country runs if we put them on sell and privatize them then we will not have any company that will pay for the expense our government will do and we will have to take loans for running the country. and once its sold then its hard to get it back and our leader will make commission on selling it , that is what the main plan is to earn from the dead elephant instead of getting it fixed .
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Sep 20, 2013 12:18pm
Privatization of PIA is the only solution, all those who oppose Privatization are enemies of the country and are only concerned with their stomachs and free rides, they cannot be considered as Patriots, but they deserve to be called Traitors.
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Sep 20, 2013 12:21pm
@ Nancy - YES. A muslim DOES NOT drink IF he is a true muslim.
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Sep 20, 2013 12:39pm
He is a disgrace to himself but specially to his country Pakistan i.e. if he is a pakistani. He should be named and shamed in the media once charges confirmed. He considered drink to be an improtant part of his life then the lives of innocent passengers. SHAME on him.
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Sep 20, 2013 12:56pm
Who cares about these things in Pakistan. Now they definitely land in the British Jail. Their laws are very strict. They cannot dodge British laws how powerful connection they have in Pakistan. PIA requires operation clean up.
Nazir Ahmed.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:01pm
@Striver:
We have already done that and with a shame !
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Sep 20, 2013 01:05pm
Jail him!
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Sep 20, 2013 01:02pm
Captain Irfan Faiz was involved in a similar incident a couple of years back when he tried to operate an ATR plane while intoxicated.........
.phone calls worked and he was not removed....this time phone call will not work.......no suo moto...risking the life of crews and passengers...
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Sep 20, 2013 01:09pm
@Khurram Butt:
How true. We should publish his pictures in every newspaper and on every TV station. How dare he brings such disrepute to the whole nation. Let alone the 100s lives he would have put in danger, had he flown that plane.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:10pm
@Ali:
His name is Pilot Irfan Faiz. BBC News.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:20pm
For all the wrong reasons, our country's image keeps on suffering at the hands of primates who somehow learned to walk, but failed to reason and become responsible individuals. Pakistan and the nation's image is once again tarnished in the absence of merit and accountability.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:25pm
How unlucky is this pilot. In Pakistan he would not have been caught. Most probably he has been doing it regularly and in the company of his incompetent bosses who run PIA.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:25pm
@shoukat sheikh:
This has been done by a Pilot of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, not the secular Pakistan.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:37pm
@john:
Pakistan had bars and clubs until the 70s and we had no trouble, violence and religious intolerence. Now we can not buy alcohol but haroin and other drugs are sold at every street corner. This is the kind of 2-faced nation we are in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan
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Sep 20, 2013 02:01pm
@Nancy:
no surprise for me - muslims consume more alcohol than any other communities in pakistan - watch them outside the liquor shops
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Sep 20, 2013 03:27pm
If this pilot was off duty and not due to fly for at least 8 hrs. , he was not committing any crime. So why the arrest? However whether guilty or not he has earned the airline a bad name.The only people willing to risk flying with PIA will be Pakistanis only.
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Sep 20, 2013 03:36pm
@Ali:
The names are very much mentioned in daily Dawn on page 14, but does that change the seriousness of the of fence committed, it certainly doesn't. I fear nothing will happen, some visible and invisible forces will come into play and the Tamasha will continue as before. Ruthlessness and unbiased tackling of such unpardonable offences should be order of the day. I shudder to think of disastrous consequences of such laxity.
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Sep 20, 2013 03:54pm
@Nancy:
Muslims are prohibited from drinking, but this doesn't mean some don't drink. I know Muslims who drink alcohol and know its against their religion but still do. Don't judge all Muslims. It's like the same with why some Muslim women wear headscarf and others don't. We're not all perfect. I do not drink alcohol, but I know people in my family who do. I am quite religious but I can't stop them from doing it. Anyways how do you know the pilot is a Muslim? He may be a Christian? And if he is Muslim, the upper class Pakistanis tend to drink and believe it or not alcohol consumption is popular in Pakistan in secret. This guy just got caught. Shame on him for putting other people's lives in danger. Hopefully he rots in prison.
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Sep 20, 2013 04:13pm
@Javed:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/irfan-faiz-pakistan-international-airlines-2285434
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Sep 20, 2013 04:27pm
@Abdul Sheikh:
It's same all over the world, You should come and look on the street of London.
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Sep 20, 2013 04:53pm
What does Pakistan Air Line Pilots
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Sep 20, 2013 04:53pm
@Muhammad Ahmed Mufti:
Couldn't agree more. That is the BIGGEST problem. Quota allows a student with 80% marks to be rejected and someone who manages 40% to study medicine and engineering in the best schools. Just in case you didn't know, one of the first thing PMLN did was to extend to quota system for another 20 years. These are the people who encourage quota system and reject merit. Why are we then surprised to produce MBAs, doctors and engineers who can not put two sentences together. At the same time, I have meny Indian friends who are sending their children back to India (from the UK) to have a better education!!.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:01pm
@Harry:
One thing you forgot is that PIA staff were arested at an airport in the UK for stealing stuff from the hotels they were staying at. In fact, some hotels have refused to do business with PIA for the same reason. These people were never named and shamed and I bet they are still working for PIA.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:00pm
@H L :
Please don't bring Sharia law into this. Otherwise, he will find someone who is willing to take some money and forgive him for his sins. A murderer recently was allowed to go scot free.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:08pm
One of my colleagues worked as a doctor in IGI Airport in Delhi and he told me that over 50% pilots of Indian Airlines would fail their breath tests when they came on duty. He was pressurized to let them fly otherwise none of the planes would take off. Things are not much different in India.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:15pm
@Nizamuddin Ali Ahmad:
I do not drink being a Muslim --- Are mere bhai, neend se kab ootho ge, sandas bhi jaate ho kyaa ki oodhar bhi sochte ho !!!
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Sep 20, 2013 05:17pm
hic!..give the man a break....hic....he did land the plane, didn't he?......thodi se jo pee li hai..hic!
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Sep 20, 2013 05:20pm
@Agha Ata:
Mr Ata, you should come and see the streets of the west, and you would find countless number of drunks at all time of the day. This is not the first incidence that a pilot has been caught drunk, there have been drunk pilots prosecuted and jailed from European and American airlines.
Don't think negatively of your country.
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Sep 20, 2013 05:21pm
@Mak:
That sounds like a good idea. But you do realize that a private company will only keep the routes that are profitable. They will cut services to almost 40% of domestic airports leaving the people with on other alternative but to ride trains or use roads.
When you cut 40% services it means that people working at those locations will lose their jobs too. It has a an across the board impact on the economy.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:10pm
Fools here that believe that this drinking incident is a matter of being Pakistani, Muslim, nationalization/privatization or a private/public issue.
It has nothing to do with either. Drinking amongst pilots is known to occur throughout the world. It is not something isolated to private/public airlines or any one religion or so-called nation.
It is, however, something that is regulated and accounted for in most countries as it clearly does pose a significant danger. Pakistan, has no such accountability or actual regulation. That, is simply it.
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Sep 20, 2013 06:07pm
@muzammil ullah khan:
It's time for Youuuu to start thinking positive.....Malala and Sharmeen Obaid are just two of the recent examples of positive news..
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Sep 20, 2013 06:13pm
1st officer (Capt) Faiz Chisti has been caught for the 2nd time in this drunk state trying to fly off. The incidence by 3 stewards recently is also shameful. All these are 'sifarshee' appointees and someone will come to there rescue so you may hear anther news another day.
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Sep 20, 2013 07:13pm
@Ali:
Great one, Ali!
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Sep 20, 2013 07:38pm
@Khalid:
I don't think there is any need for such excitement. Events like this are no such big deals in big cities. What about the big fish who have eaten up the whole of PIA, Railway, Pak Steel, most of SSGC, PPL, PSO so on and so forth. My dear countrymen, don't wait for the ailing judiciary to take suo mottos, things will never improve if you don't get hold of reins yourself.
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Sep 20, 2013 07:46pm
@Shahpur:
You feel sorry for someone who almost got 180 people killed because he wanted to "have a quick drink" ? I would suggest you go with him alone next time while he is drunk driving his car.
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Sep 20, 2013 07:48pm
He drinks, that is fine, believe me 94% of pilots do, BUT NOT WHILE HE IS IN THE COCKPIT. Now if the hiring authority had a clause that specifically said NO ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AT ALL, and if he broke that rule, then he is guilty. So terminate him.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:07pm
@Anees:
Yes that is only criteria to judge a muslim these days. Muslim can do nikahs for one night, lie, kill but as soon as he/she drinks they are not true anymore. What a joke we have become as a nation as muslims.
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Sep 20, 2013 08:05pm
@Atif :
Do you know what you are talking about? PIA and Pakistan Railways are doing huge losses for last several years now. PIA alone is facing Rs 100 million loss every day.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:04pm
@naseem Ahmad:
And that makes everything OK?. In the West most people don't tell lies. Most people don't chaet. Women can walk alone late at nights without any fear of being harassed. In our Islamic republic of Pakistan, what can we proudly present to the West as our culture?. Please don't compare what happens in Pakistan to the West.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:12pm
In his Jail Cell, he is probably singing to Ghulam Ali; It is all his fault.
HUNGAMA HAI KYUUUN BARPA - AAAA
THOREE SEE EE EE JOE PEELEEY EE HAY EA EA EA
DAAAKAA TOA NAHEE EEEE DALLAA HAY EEY EEY EYE
CHORI TOA NAHEE EEEEE KEE EE EE HAAAAY
I hate Ghulam Ali, Like a one Trick Pony - he is a One Sur Pony!
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Sep 20, 2013 09:10pm
@Zobia Khan:
I don't know what business school you went to!. The only impact on the economy (in relation to PIA) is that we are pouring 100s of millions of US Dollars in this company. Also, keeping people in the jobs for the sake of creating jobs sounds like a bad idea to me. I hope you are not running a company.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:15pm
nothing new this happen at Dubai station
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Sep 20, 2013 09:12pm
nothing news this happen in Dubai to
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Sep 20, 2013 09:12pm
@naseem Ahmad:
And you think it is OK to compare Pakistani streets with the streets of London?. Shame that you didn't learn anything living in London.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:13pm
the captain brought a bad name to pakistan, but it is given a more media hype otherwise it happens in the streets of london, very common in the indian airline.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:21pm
@Nancy:
@John:
Both of you have raised a very good point.
Living in the U.S. for the last 29 years, I have realized that western people perceive us
all muslims as one monolithic and homogeneous community. It's far from being such. That's on all aspect of faith and practices.
In case of alcoholic drinks, theologically, it's true that manufacturing, selling, and consuming liquor is prohibited.
But, when it comes to practice, there's a wide spectrum of practices in the entire muslim world. However, the majority
refrain from the use of alcohol.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:28pm
Great!! Must be the product of Quota System!
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Sep 20, 2013 09:37pm
@Zobia Khan: Wrong, other smaller carriers will spring up along with other modes of transportation to serve the routes. Actually it may create more jobs and regional economical boost. With the help of technology most workers can perform more efficiently from virtual offices instead of being on the site. Don't spread fear to support & encourage inefficiencies. Embrace the change.
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Sep 20, 2013 09:57pm
Kindly
Breathalysers for all pilots and staff boarding and flying planes
DUI is a crime
All references and credentials of all employes should be re-assessed along with psych evaluation of pilots
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Sep 20, 2013 09:59pm
@Shahpur:
I hope that someday this guy is flying the plane that you are on .
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Sep 20, 2013 11:40pm
Big deal! In 1971, Yahya was found utterly drunk even while addressing the nation on TV. He was drunk while leading the nation in the prior months before defeat. On many official occasions even Bhutto was found to be drunk. Jinah was also heavy drinker. In fact the elite boasted their identity based on the brand of alcoholic drink they consume. If whole Pakistan was in good hands of drunkards what is so bad about drunk pilot who was not supposed to fly the plane.
Moreover Pakistani Quome is drunk on Bedouin extremist ideology. So no need to make a big deal of drunk pilot.
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Sep 20, 2013 11:45pm
Thodi si jo pi li hay chori to nahi ki hay.
Oh wait , other news says '' pia staff caught shop lifting''
oye chhad yaar, thodi si jo pi li hai chori bhi to ki hai.
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Sep 20, 2013 11:52pm
@muzammil ullah khan:
I' m sorry to say but its a '' Sazish '' to defame Pakistan.
Theres 1000 other good things in Pakistan, did you ever see it on CNN?
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Sep 21, 2013 12:55am
@Vijay K:
I know pilots at private carriers like Indigo etc.. these breathe tests are serious and have serious consequences if they fail them. I do not know about Air India but in my opinion even they go through similar rigor these days. Given that you still calling them Indian Airlines you are probably out of India for a long time and talking about stuff from some time back.
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Sep 21, 2013 01:15am
The West has always had the superiority complex;the HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE!!! It started with Rudyard Kipling,the author of The Jungle Book;he came up with the expression'White Man's Burden',implying that we were inferior as a people than the British,and it was their buden (read duty) to reform & educate us for our own good.
The real purpose was to create an 'army' of clerks to do the menial work in their 'Raaj'.
I live in L.A. & will be happy to show Desi Brother the 'Skid Row',where thousands of homeless families live by the side of the road.They are chased by the Police for selling drugs,drinking & creating a ruckus.
No American T.V. crew goes there.It would show the ugly face of America and their ally England!!!!! They show the palm trees,the beach & luxurious mansions,it keeps the ignoramuses here in a trance.
"PROPHET (England) HEAL THYSELF"...
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Sep 21, 2013 02:08am
pure british lagacy .. :):)
Here i want to convey my thoughts to all young minds....
we should follow industrial societies like US.. where drinking is far more strictly prohibited in work place.. we should stop follwing the British ..and their stupid alcoholic social norms.
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Sep 21, 2013 02:14am
@Tnemeganam:
The aircraft he was supposed to fly was A310 (Airbus).
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Sep 21, 2013 03:29am
Why propels are arguing PIA means drink before you come:(
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Sep 21, 2013 03:32am
What's the big deal!
PIA- pee kar aye yeah.
Drinking is very common in Islamic republic of Pakistan, and everyone knows that.
Kiya khoob kaha hai.......
"Kal jo pee thee aji aai us ka Nasha hai tumhari qasam aai pee Nahi"
Does anyone know when Pakistan will be available for sale?... If you know what I mean......
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Sep 21, 2013 03:35am
Let him enjoy
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Sep 21, 2013 04:34am
@dr vimal raina:
you are a doctor
So what the heck is hlc?
Come on, you arent riff raff so dont talk like one
again - HLC?
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Sep 21, 2013 05:42am
***Sad incident.....
Lets look it as an Individual Case of violating Professional Code of Conduct....
Lets not bring religion or country in between...
He should not have done that riskin so many lives if he was about to fly....
But not sure why is he arrested and put behind bars....he could have been kept in a room for questioning...
Anyways hope things settles fine and others learn a lesson from it...
Take care...
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Sep 21, 2013 11:35am
Thank God he was caught before take-off !!
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Sep 21, 2013 12:01pm
Drinking or being drunk is no big deal. I recall an ex-president & prime minister of Pakistan were both fond of drinking & were often drunk. No questions were ever asked. Why punish a poor pilot.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:43pm
Poor guy is only a fan of Danzel Washington
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Sep 21, 2013 01:50pm
PIA Captain: "Janu, please pass me a sick bag. I think we are having a mid-flight turbulence".
Stewardess: "But sir, the plane hasn't taken off yet".
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Sep 21, 2013 03:23pm
Drinking is not a crime. So what if he was drunk?, just go to any British pub, they are all drunk in there, do they get arrested? No, so why arrest a drunk Pakistani?
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Sep 21, 2013 05:27pm
This is the by-product of Islamophobia that is raging in the West. What else can be the reason?
Rao - Brazil
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Sep 21, 2013 08:27pm
I think there is an international conspiracy behind it to defame the pious staff of our muslim airline
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Sep 21, 2013 08:31pm
Who the hell is Bristish to tell us when we should drink? We will drink when we want and where we want, the Bristish and their democracy can go to hell. Europe, America and Australia is full of drunk people, they should first lock up all their people before making any comments against Pakistanis.
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Sep 21, 2013 10:21pm
@Nazakat Ali:
Yes, his name is Irfan Faiz S/O Gen.(retd) Faiz Ali Chishti! Isn't it impressive?
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Sep 21, 2013 10:59pm
@Khalid:
As you are no better after partition,would you like to join back in a federation.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:15pm
Judge: Sir, you are being charged with being drunk on duty. How do you plead?
PIA Pilot: Mujhko yaaron maaf karna, main nashe mein hoon....
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Sep 21, 2013 11:32pm
@Nancy:
Muslims do a lot of things which they are not supposed to do.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:37pm
Your country men never cease to amaze me, when you think they have done the lowest of lowly acts, they will prove you wrong and do something even worst. I love the airlines statement that the crew can go to hell and they will not stand by them. Amazing.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:38pm
@Vijay K:
same source of origin both of you folks.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:45pm
@Nazakat Ali:
not wise why do you want to be the one to spoil the pilots name. You have sinned by not keeping a secret that many of us still did not know - his name and probably were not interested in finding out.
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Sep 22, 2013 12:44am
@naseem Ahmad:
Just because there are drunk drivers/pilots, etc. does not make it right for a Pakistani - a Muslim, claiming to have high morals to be caught drunk. I don't think it makes sense, when a crime is committed, we justify it by saying that others are committing it too! - forgetting the fact, that a crime is a crime and one needs to be held accountable. All Muslim countries take pride in our religion and how It guides us to be morally superior - and then, we see someone from a professional career being caught Drunk! That is a shame!
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Sep 22, 2013 01:43am
My comments have not been published as there seems to be a censor in Place in Dawn?
what is the fun of printing what you want to or agree with rather than letting the opinion and comments of the common man be read. How can you claim to be an independent media if you yourself practice censorship? Shame on you! If there are some requirements I am to fulfill please do let me know you have my email address.
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Sep 22, 2013 02:57am
When are we gonna stop blaming foreign elements for conspiring to defame Pakistan and its people. Its not like some British lads held the homeboy at gun point and poured shots of Whiskey down his throat.
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Sep 22, 2013 03:28am
@Mohammed Malik:
Because he was going to be flying a jetliner/plane for the next 7-8 hours, carrying with him at least 200 people (men, women and children) and their luggage to a different location at at least 30,000 feet above the earth. This was a huge risk to the people who are counting on a safe journey. That is why he was arrested.
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Sep 22, 2013 03:49am
A friend of mine travelled from Frankfurt to New York in 1996 by PIA and said it was one of the best trips in his life. But now one can only think PIA as "Please Inform ALLAH" or "Perhaps I Arrive".
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Sep 22, 2013 04:38am
@independentthinker:
Muslims and morally superior - what an oxymoron. Look around you before you open you mouth
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Sep 22, 2013 06:02am
@naeem Syed:
they do it all the time to me. dawn is a sham on the name of free media. day is just a joke.
khan
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Sep 22, 2013 08:28am
@independentthinker:
Absolutely correct. Those who reply by saying that others are guilty of drunk driving just reveal how shallow their understanding of morality is. When they defend illegal and unethical behavior as somehow justified by the similar actions of others, it becomes obvious that they don't themselves believe in what they preach.
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Sep 22, 2013 08:34am
@naseem Ahmad: Being drunk in the street is very different than being drunk when flying a plane. At least get your analogies correct.
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Sep 22, 2013 09:21am
I think this pilot was only following the good traditions of Yahya Khan & Bhutto. He is innocent in my view.
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Sep 22, 2013 09:25am
@naeem Syed:
Naeem unfortunately this is the case all over the world. Newspapers are after all a business. They are really not there for us, but for themselves to make money.
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Sep 22, 2013 09:45am
Thats why i am not traveling with PIA for last five years......because they are "Dangerous people to fly with"
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Sep 22, 2013 10:50am
late maulana niazi (religious minister) of PPP in bhutto regime was nick named as 'whisky niazi'
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Sep 22, 2013 11:04am
@Mohammed Malik:
He was arrested for being in charge of a plane whilst drunk. If he was off duty, there would be no issue.
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Sep 22, 2013 11:05am
@Pervez Khan:
because he was on duty and could have killed a plane load of passengers.
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Sep 22, 2013 11:03am
For all those defending this pilot, are you telling me you would have no issue flying on a plane with a drunk pilot in control???
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Sep 22, 2013 11:15am
@MAKhan:
Most airline rules say no alcohol for a certain period (usually 8 hrs) before coming on duty, and also not to have a blood alcohol level of more than a certain amount whilst on duty.
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Sep 22, 2013 11:12am
@independentthinker:
How do you know that the pilot was a muslim? Did he carry a certificate confirming his religion?
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Sep 22, 2013 11:23am
All Pakistanis are now in drunken state now-a-days some way or other. Country desperately need some lemon to get out of this hangover.
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Sep 22, 2013 12:33pm
@Ahmad Ali: Haha u made me laugh
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Sep 22, 2013 01:22pm
Nothing wrong in it. The pilot was merely following Airline's policy P I A (i.e drink then come)
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Sep 22, 2013 01:54pm
Folks.... It's useless to hold a person to anything he says while he's in love, drunk, or running for office. We should know this by now... May be he is an intelligent man working for stupid airline ...An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools.
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Sep 22, 2013 03:18pm
@illawarrior:
How would anyone know if the pilot is drunk? Only if he makes an error.
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Sep 22, 2013 03:20pm
@Mujtaba:
Those who claim to be muslims take the high moral ground & happy to issue fatwa against others.
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