At Imran's US jalsa, only the containers were missing

A few times I was left thinking that maybe now I understood the allure of cult leaders.
Updated 03 Dec, 2019 12:19pm
Imran Khan at the Capital One Arena. — PTI
Imran Khan at the Capital One Arena. — PTI

On a sweltering Sunday in Washington DC with temperatures hovering in the mid-40s, tens of thousands of Pakistanis began lining up outside the Capital One Arena.

The excitement was palpable in the air as groups of friends, young and old couples and families (some three generations deep) waited patiently to see the prime minister from a country 7,000 miles away.

“This is the magic of Imran Khan,” one attendee, who has never lived in Pakistan, told me. “Imran Khan is the only Pakistani leader who has truly engaged with overseas Pakistanis. He understands that just because we live elsewhere doesn’t mean we don’t care for the well-being of our motherland. That’s why I lined up four hours before. I didn’t want to risk missing a chance to see history in the making.”

This chance to witness a slice of history is why I dragged my American-born Indian husband out early on a Sunday morning.

Here's how Prime Minister Imran Khan’s first ever American jalsa went.

1pm: As we wait outside the arena on F Street, less than a mile from the theatre where Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, chants of “Takbeer, Allahu Akbar!” and “Pakistan Zindabad!” periodically rise up in the air. Yard signs decorated with the prime minister's face or quotes of his bob throughout the crowd.

Children holding up the Pakistan flag sit perched on their fathers’ shoulders, while aunties in oversized sunglasses and lawn kurtas fan themselves all over the place.

People passing by, including a bus of Asian tourists, throw curious glances our way. Everywhere there are cops.

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Even though world leaders regularly visit the nation’s capital, it’s clear that this particular visit by Pakistan’s relatively new head of government is unprecedented for more reasons than one.

First, it comes at a time when United States-Pakistan relations are particularly strained. Second, it’s been almost four years since a Pakistani prime minister has paid America a visit. Third — and perhaps most importantly — this is the first time in recent history that a Pakistani leader has made such a monumental effort to connect with overseas Pakistanis who, despite distance and time away from their homeland, frequently follow and contribute financially to the country.

2pm: Two hours before the event, doors open. There’s a bottleneck as people rush into the arena where, just four days ago, a JLo concert was held. Because the US Secret Service is charged with protecting visiting world leaders, even the most overzealous of supporters are quickly subdued into forming an organised line in order to be cleared by metal detectors.

2:30pm: Inside the venue it feels like a concert, with concession stands hawking deep-fried goodies and people posing with life-sized posters of Imran Khan in his signature black waistcoat. A friend wonders out loud if Pakistani actress Reema is here (she lives in the neighbouring state, Virginia). I whisper to my husband that all that is missing is a Farhan Saeed performance and some containers.

I choose to skip the restful reclusivity of the press section so I could connect with the motley group of desis that has suddenly been drawn together in common cause. We find seats in the middle of the arena. The stage is simple — a Pakistan and an American flag behind a podium. Above hangs another, massive Pakistan flag as a last-ditch effort to conceal that the venue is usually a basketball court.

At this point, the stadium which seats 20,000 is still empty, but for the next two hours we sit and watch awe-struck as it fills to capacity.

4:30pm: What they don’t tell you about political rallies is the amount of time that is spent waiting for the main event. For hours we listen to the ramblings of a Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) hypeman. The same soundtrack that plays at all of Imran Khan’s Pakistan jalsas is on a tiresome loop.

A couple of times Junoon’s Salman Ahmed takes to the stage for an absolutely terrible, lip-synced rendition of classic Vital Signs and Junoon tracks. A lot of (male) attendees periodically get up to dance. When a Pashto track comes on, things get especially lit.

5:30-ish-pm: By now, I’ve lost track of time. Or maybe time simply stands still when Imran Khan (finally, finally!) takes to the stage. It’s a spectacular sight. The entire arena is on its feet. We can’t stop clapping and making noise.

At this point, it’s probably prudent to share a little bit about me: I’ve come to this rally mostly out of journalistic curiosity and also because it’s a 15-minute drive from my house. And, while I feel that Imran Khan was Pakistan’s best choice in these past elections, I am not a diehard PTI/Imran Khan supporter. Still, on that Sunday, I find myself caught up in the wave of patriotism.

Not everyone in the arena is a satisfied customer, however. Seconds into the prime minister's entry, one section of the arena gets real loud. Pretty soon, a group of people have started pushing each other. Turns out, there have been protesters inside all along. But, their protest is cut short when, within minutes, security kicks them out. I’m momentarily left discomfited by this squashing of dissent.

But almost right away, it’s back to business as we, including the prime minister, settle in to watch a high quality, propaganda-esque highlight reel of the kaptaan’s life: the ‘92 World Cup, the opening of Shaukat Khanum, the opening of the university in Mianwali, his historic election win. It’s all there.

For a brief moment, I am reminded of the videos I watched in high school of political rallies in Nazi Germany. I wonder: must all political leaders rely on bombast, sentimentality and an aggrieved view of history to be memorable, effective leaders?

But before I can dwell too hard on this thought, I’m pulled back into the sound and fury of it all as the prime minister begins his much-awaited address.

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Imran Khan’s speech is not very different from previous stump speeches. (Even though PTI’s hypeman tells us repeatedly we are not a PTI event but a Pakistan event, the whole thing still feels like a pre-election style jalsa).

Without any talking points before him, the whole thing feels like a mish-mash; equal parts rant combined with a history of the Islamic world with a lot of unnecessary, surface-level references to the fallen empires of the Ottomans and the Mughals.

I had come hoping for a nuanced discussion of what is happening on the ground in Pakistan because overseas Pakistanis care about that. We cling to news from back home and a chance to hear from the prime minister directly is too big an opportunity.

Plus, all of us in attendance have listened to the prime minister, many times, promise Pakistanis a 'naya Pakistan'; one where democracy and accountability thrive, elitism and nepotism are done away with, jobs are created, foreign investors are welcomed and the rich pay taxes, while the rest enjoy a welfare state not unlike the Medina of early Islam.

And while it is exciting to hear the prime minister speak of Pakistan’s future as a meritocratic state, a dissatisfaction still lingers because of his failure to answer the heavy questions that are on all our minds: How exactly do we increase accountability? How exactly do we attract foreign investment? How exactly do we eradicate corruption?

6:15-ish-pm: Imran Khan is preaching to the choir instead of expanding the church. But, the attendees couldn't care less. To be in the company of their rock star cum prodigal son is enough.

Anytime he names rival politicians, there is a thunderous applause and laughter at their expense. Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s name is met with chants of “Diesel”.

That his speech is light on actual solutions and substance is inconsequential.

One attendee tells me later that “after suffering through years of corrupt, incompetent and neglectful leaders, it is refreshing to have a leader who won’t bow down under pressure or sell his morals.”

7pm: Generally, rallies are a genius tool to turn a politician’s messages into soundbite-sized mantras. And, no one knows this better than our superstar-turned-politician Imran Khan. To watch the prime minister interact with his audience is a lesson in charisma, confidence and raw emotional connection.

After all, to maintain the appearance that something is happening when, in fact, not much is happening because not much has really changed, is an art. And, the prime minister has mastered this art.

A few times I’m left thinking that maybe now I understand the allure of cult leaders.

In Politics and the English Language, George Orwell describes political speech as the “defense of the indefensible,” a type of language consisting “largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness.”

In his address, the prime minister embodies all these things.

But because he's flown commercial not private, because he has chosen to dignify us with an in-person address and because he’s come to America not to plead Pakistan’s case before the powers that be but to, finally, garner respect for us in a world that has lost respect for us a long time ago, we are all happy to overlook his mostly hollow rhetoric and unnecessary political and verbal jousting.

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Maria Kari is a freelance journalist and lawyer. Her work has appeared in a variety of publications including The Nation, NPR, and The Express Tribune.

She tweets @mariakari1414.

The views expressed by this writer and commenters below do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

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Ashraf Jehangir Qazi
Jul 24, 2019 03:28pm
the difference between a "developed" and "developing" state is that in the former it was considered (until recently) politically hazardous for political leaders to insult the intelligence of their audiences, whereas in the latter nothing else is expected. A leader who fails to make the essential distinction doesn't get very far. However, Trump and Boris are challenging the validity of this view. Imran Khan seems to be suspending his judgment which could be wise indecision.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:28pm
come to America not to plead Pakistan’s case before the powers that be but to, finally, garner respect for us in a world that has lost respect for us a long time ago.. This is the hope- that a true leader like IK can get us Pakistanis the respect that we have lost over the years.. A very honest article!
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Jul 24, 2019 03:39pm
The title couldn't be better than that. Being an overseas Pakistani, I felt so proud to see how good PMIK did in his first trip to US as a Prime Minister. Pakistan needed Leader like him to represent us in front of the World for a long time, good times ahead. A very well written article Maria :)
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Kunal, Gurgaon
Jul 24, 2019 03:40pm
A very good read.
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Shahpar Ali
Jul 24, 2019 03:41pm
Great Article - covered it well. Speech is never perfect, either it is totally non-existent (Nawaz, Zardari, Gilani never made one while on a visit to any foreign country in their entire life), or totally basic stuff without any substance, or it is too much. The basic fact that a leader felt the need to connect with a diaspora and wasn't afraid to achieve that is just beautiful. We have Seen Indians do that quite often but for Pakistan, this was the first.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:43pm
I dont know where to start exactly, this article seems to me like the voice of the mass public here in Pakistan who doesnot want to accept that things dont get on track overnight but it take decades to erradicate things like corruption from the system. We should back the government as atleast they are showing the commitment to make things better, steps have been taken in almost all the departments to regularise the proceedings. Yes the general public has to suffer, it wont be easy but atleast foundations have been placed for a better and prosperous Pakistan. We have the example of Malaysia in front of our eyes how Mahatir Muhammad turned it upside and down. We hope the same for Pakistan with Imran Khan playing Mahatir Muhammad.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:48pm
The thing is some of the overseas Pakistani we are simply happy that we no longer feel embarrassed when the Pm of the country pulls out a chit and reads like a school boy.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:56pm
Yeah, and yet these Yellow Journalists cry about freedom of speech, Dawn Included? I will write the same at other forums.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:00pm
This article is a bitter reality for PTI supporters but not many are ready to face it yet. Lot of them are falling blindly in love of IK
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Jul 24, 2019 04:00pm
These are just personal views of someone that fail to undermine the huge positive impact of PMIK's US visit.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:04pm
Whether you like it or not Khan is a real leader of Pakistan.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:05pm
Dear Ms Kari, I have to concede that while I prefer to only leave constructive criticism in your journalistic efforts here, I do want to point out the blasé attitude in your writing. I am afraid it bothers me even, because it is reminiscent to me of exactly the kind entitlement found in any of the so called 'elite' private schools of our country. Furthermore, since we are lucky enough that you went "to this rally mostly out of journalistic curiosity and also because it’s a 15-minute drive from (your) house", I have to say that expecting answers from the PM to every single problem you mentioned above was a long-shot. No diplomatic event anywhere has ever promised the crowd with technically worded concrete solutions to all our precious problems. Lastly, the comparison to Nazi era speeches....I am a Pakistani-German and it saddens me to see someone as educated as you compare the two. Nazi speeches ordained subservience to the superiority of white identity, is that what you see here too?
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Khan Kashkol
Jul 24, 2019 04:05pm
Few questions arise, was it the Pak taxpayer who hired the stadium? If yes, then is it right to further PTI agenda on that dollar? Other question is how does one fit 30K people in a max 19k capacity stadium?
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Jul 24, 2019 04:10pm
Do we need some self respect and esteem to be brought back in the eye of the world?Or interested in knowing why he acted as a PTI Chairman and not as the Prime Minister at the Arena? For me he is the best thing happened to Pakistan in the last 40 years.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:11pm
Great to see a leader like him representing Pakistan, way to go PM Imran Khan !
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Jul 24, 2019 04:13pm
70 years of corruption, nepotism, discrimination and you want it to end with just a swing of a stick. You want a leader who can make no mistake, or always does the right thing. I mean every leader/ politician/ have critics and its easy to identify what is wrong especially if you are sitting 1000 of miles away, enjoying the perks of being in a well administered society where everyone follows the law or may be nearly everyone, but when you talk about countries like Pakistan, where every single sole is accustomed to corruption in their own way, no body follows the law it feels like a breeze of fresh air if someone else sits on the throne even for a little while. Change in our part of the world is not easy. Please look into what he has achieved in this visit rather than what he hasn't and also kindly let me know who else was able to do it before him.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:19pm
When IK speaks, whether it is in a jalsa or in front of Congress members, there is a lot of "I". But that is IK, you either take him or leave him! What other option does Pakistan have?
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Jul 24, 2019 04:37pm
Who says that ? The corrupt politicians (PPP and PMLN fake leadership) and their beneficiary? I do not care what these fake leaders say, PM IK did an excellent job. We Love you IK. Since PM IK past in politics is spotless, hence, he got an utmost respect from the President of USA. If it were Nwaz shrif or Zardari, he would not have given them this much respect only because he would have known that these people are corrupt and have no moral backbone/spine.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:50pm
Beautifully written and very much appreciated, your observation is precise and I hear the writers despair. We Pakistanis are so gullible it seems regardless of where we are, USA or UK or Lahore, we fall for it Time and time again. Why can't we see through all the jargon and BS. Wake up Pakistanis we are in reverse at present 1 step forward and now continuously in reverse for the last 10months at least,
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Bilal Mustafa
Jul 24, 2019 04:52pm
The crowds were about nine and a half thousands , protestors protesting against media restrictions were harassed . Videos are on the Internet .
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Jul 24, 2019 05:04pm
Nice article.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:14pm
Leader of the decade. Period.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:20pm
Thanks for an excellent article which covered almost everything. I watched from the seclusion of my home. It was no different speech than the one which are his hallmark. Frankly, I got bored after a while. Every word was predictable, every vibe was familiar. Stage secretary employed all the tactics to prolong himself and to excite the crowds. While, I liked many parts of the speech, I hated the “chor, chor” part of the speech. I think, it was more of a political rally type than a nation building speech where our PM especially targetted his political foes of taking their TV, home cooked food of qeema naan, it was the not worth the salt of PM to announce in world forum which taking away the prerogatives of a jail warden. Like the writer, I too practice law and have no political affiliations. The crowd was very spirited because they gathered to express their love for Pakistan and not towards any political philosophy, individual or creed.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:20pm
All of Ik’s supporters are in denial and don’t realise they have been fooled. Just like Trump’s supporters are never going to see the Wall down south, Pakistan is not going to get even a dime back from Swiss accounts and foreign banks. Meanwhile the IMF loan is going have serious detrimental consequences in the short and long term. Wake up people!!!
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Jul 24, 2019 05:26pm
Really disconcerting and unnecessary comparison to Nazi Germnay when there is nothing to be compared here. I'm happy that he's trying to bring about a positive change as sincerely as he is able to given all the roadblocks he's surrounded by. Pakistan Zindabad.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:41pm
I was in that Jalsa and cannot explain the love and emotions thatvI saw for Pakistan and Imran Khan. There was AC family sitting behind us. When ever IK say about making Pakistan a prosperous and great country I hear from the back "inshallah". IK is a HOPE of seeing Pakistan a great country.
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Sami Khan
Jul 24, 2019 05:46pm
It was not worth for Dawn to publish is article. The author is merely ignorant and I cannot understand as why she is comparting IK event with that of Nazi Germany.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:55pm
Bravo! The Captain has bowled them all out, No other former PM or President of Pakistan has garnered such admiration, such a large crowd of overseas Pakistanis and international audience anywhere - much less in the US Capital, of all places! IK has earned that respect and deserves our full support to change Pakistan for the better.
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Qamar Raja
Jul 24, 2019 06:06pm
@FellowOverseasPakistani, well said.
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Jul 24, 2019 06:12pm
I don't understand the criticism of the PM for speaking in front of the Pakistani American community without a prepared speech. He also spoke without any prepared speech at the Capitol Hill and at the US Institute of Peace and did an excellent job.
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Jul 24, 2019 06:23pm
Every day inflation going higher and higher and we feeling proud of our PM jalsa
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Jul 24, 2019 06:27pm
"I’m momentarily left discomfited by this squashing of dissent." Instead of shouting to disrupt the gathering, the protesters should have used placards to convey their sentiments. "For a brief moment, I am reminded of the videos I watched in high school of political rallies in Nazi Germany." A really bad comparison.
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Ali A
Jul 24, 2019 06:27pm
Sounds exactly like how things happen in a Trump rally..
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Jul 24, 2019 06:45pm
I had the honor to attend the Jalsa!!! so Proud.
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Safir A. Siddiqui
Jul 24, 2019 07:01pm
@Maliki , you got bored because Imran Khan only spoke the truth.Were you easy with the looters and plunderers of our nation’s wealth like Zardari and Nawaz Sharif.Imran Khan is a born leader like Nelson Mandela and Dr.Martin Luther King junior of “I have a dream”fame.The most precious and sterling quality of Imran Khan is that he is scrupulously clean and Honest to the core.Secondly he is selfless person.His achievements speak for themselves.World Cup,Shaukat Khanam& Namal University and now his charm offensive and Diplomacy of highest quality with President Donald Trump.The list is long,you have to see them through the prism of a PAKISTANI.
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Jul 24, 2019 07:13pm
I am glad he is keeping the fires of accountability alive while making progress on many issues left by the previous government
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Jul 24, 2019 07:28pm
Don't you see he is copying Modi's political approach reaching out to Overseas citizens?
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Jul 24, 2019 07:59pm
That is free democratic. Now containers should be missing in Pakistan as well
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Khurshid Qazi
Jul 24, 2019 08:30pm
True container was missing !!! The speech was contrary to that of a statesman !!
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Just Saying
Jul 24, 2019 08:40pm
The great think about being a Pakistani expatriate and attending an Imran Khan Jalsa is that you can enjoy the show but you don't have to suffer his misgovernance.
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Jul 24, 2019 08:48pm
Going to a foreign country and pretend you are still talking to your own constituency shows how immature IK is, he never once behave in his speech that he is no longer a leader of PTI, but he is representing Pakistan.
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Shakeel Khan
Jul 24, 2019 09:17pm
Shame on you Dawn News. You have be against IK from very beginning and till now. May be part of the "Chore Party". I live in Indiana and I had many friends attending the event. In my 30 years in the US, this is the first time Pakistan got respect. Rest of your Chores were Perchi people. Shame on you for putting it this way. You may be the part of problem. Dare you to put as I submitted it.
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Jul 24, 2019 09:31pm
Niazi targeting opposition
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St Mercury
Jul 24, 2019 09:32pm
I am glad that I did not waste my time going there.
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Rana Talukdar, fact finder
Jul 24, 2019 10:11pm
@Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, dear sir, are you the man whom we know and love? But sir, believe it, no Trump no Boris can outwit the masses for long. They r just killing the "privileged" time they have.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:23pm
The attempt at humor comes off as condescension. I think you misunderstand the point of the "jalsa," It was supposed to be festive and fun instead of a policy conference. And why do all neoliberasl fawn over the concept of meritocracy? A concept that is exclusive and marginalizes a large part of the populace.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:31pm
@Ayesha, "Wake up people!!!" Wake up and do what? Bring the golden age of Sharifs and Zardari back?
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Jul 24, 2019 10:34pm
Addressing a Pakistani gathering, how big or small, is not important ! Did he meet and/or address any US trade and economic delegation and or businessmen ???? 'Jalsas' he can do even in Pakistan, for which he must not have visited USA! Normally for any high profile overseas visit, advance level delegations homework is done and MOUs are prepared in advance for signature. Further high level trade and economic delegation level meetings and negotiations are held for economic growth of the country. Since PTI government failed to manage any such thing, he ended up again standing over a container and doing 'Jalsa' even in Washington.
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Dr. Asad Sadick
Jul 24, 2019 11:08pm
Objections to Imran Khans Container-like speeches are welcome. We love them. Thats how he started his campaign and that's how he will continue. He is one leader who has no inhibitions to call a spade a spade.
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Abraham Isaac
Jul 25, 2019 12:26am
@Abdullah, You have put it so elequently.
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Jul 25, 2019 01:19am
Truth is no Messiah can safe Pakistan. But yes, democracy in it's true essence can. But the question is can be democracy be strengthen in Pakistan?
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Jul 25, 2019 02:20am
Pakistanis living abroad cheering as if they are going to come back! what do they care what happens in Pakistan? Its really fun to share opinion on internet from abroad. If this PM is such a great leader why dont you guys come back and support his deranged policies.
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Jawad Lahori
Jul 25, 2019 03:17am
Was there at Capital one arena and i had the time of my life seeing Imran Khan in person.
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Nawazish Kayani
Jul 25, 2019 04:15am
@Omar, I believe he pleaded his case very well where it was needed. Please do remember recovery is not that easy after once fall, He is a slow and smooth mover and waits for the right moment to hit the nail in the head,You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.
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Jul 25, 2019 04:35am
You're trying too hard with this article. It's amazing you went into the event expecting the PM to provide overnight solutions for problems that could take years if not decades to resolve. And the nazi germany comparison is really gross and disgusting.
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Jul 25, 2019 04:52am
@AHAQ, I can name one achievement; the Metro Bus in Peshawar. This is the only mega project began by PTI and finished by Imran . If you want glamour without brains, you have got it friend.
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Jatinder Kumar
Jul 25, 2019 05:05am
IK is a good, honest, kind and genuine person; hope he shows the courage to resolve Pakistan's problems.
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Jul 25, 2019 07:05am
"After all, to maintain the appearance that something is happening when, in fact, not much is happening because not much has really changed, is an art. And, the prime minister has mastered this art." -- Maria Kari How does this journalist make such a claim by just going to a rally? According to Lindsay Gram: Great meeting with the PM of Pakistan, Imran Khan. @ImranKhanPTI In my opinion he and his government represent the best opportunity in decades to have a beneficial strategic relationship the US. This will help us secure Afghanistan and the region long-term.
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Jul 25, 2019 07:07am
Ik will need this when soon Pakistan is done with this man
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A Khan
Jul 25, 2019 07:51am
What a ridiculous article. Author is out of touch with reality. Shame on you and shame on Dawn for publishing this nonsense. Dare u to post my comment.
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Sheikh Sa'adi
Jul 25, 2019 08:45am
Using Taxpayer's money to propagate PTI. How honest is that?
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Jul 25, 2019 08:52am
@PatriotPakiBrit, you see this kind of comment often from member of the Pakistani diaspora overseas. “Finally a leader who looks and talks the part” “Finally somebody who can represent us on the world stage” It’s almost as if their main concern is not so much how the country is getting better but how it looks to everyone on the outside. Also I’m sorry if you think that anybody outside of pakistan can discern even the slightest difference between our rotating carousel of leaders. But it’s nice to see that overseas Pakistanis are a little less embarrassed of their country even it comes at they expense of people who actually live there :)
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Jul 25, 2019 09:10am
On an international stage you need to raise the bar. I do not think that happened in this case. Container style shouting in a foreign country wasn't that dignified.
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Smart Observer
Jul 25, 2019 09:47am
@Abdullah, Well said. The nation needs patience.
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Smart Observer
Jul 25, 2019 09:49am
@FellowOverseasPakistani, Well said.
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Smart Observer
Jul 25, 2019 09:52am
@Mobin, Excellent reply to an article from a person who obviously comes from the elite class in Pakistan
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Jul 25, 2019 10:02am
@Moin, You should know that the Pakistani cacus which Lindsay heads is paid to promote Pakistan interest and will only give favourable news, otherwise payments will stop. Learn to hear and accept news from other sources as well.
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Jul 25, 2019 10:09am
@Safir A. Siddiqui, what about the scam about his bunglow, unauthorized use of helicopter for local travel and various allegations by his former wifes and mistresses. Wow a scrupulously clean PM.
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Jul 25, 2019 10:16am
@FellowOverseasPakistani, yes my dear, she is absolutely correct when she compares it with Nazism. IK has all the faschist tendencies because he only loves himself...
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Tushar Verma
Jul 25, 2019 11:35am
Imran is a sincere politician, the road ahead is tough but people should support him.
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Dec 03, 2019 09:07pm
good piece what is pakistan?...
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