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FO chides UN for equating AJK with held Valley

Published Aug 19, 2016 07:04am

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ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office said on Thursday it would welcome any UN mission intending to visit Azad Jammu and Kashmir, but took strong exception to equating AJK with India-held Valley.

“While welcoming any UN team that the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights may wish to send to AJK, we cannot accept equating the rampant human rights violations in IOK (India-Occupied Kashmir) with the situation in AJK. In fact, today the contrast between grim reality in IOK and the peaceful situation in AJK could not be more stark. It is, therefore, essential that the UN fact-finding team must visit IOK,” the FO said in a statement.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein had in a statement on Wednesday asked for access to both India-held Kashmir and Azad Jammu and Kashmir for probing the allegations of human rights violations.


Indian response to talks initiative being examined


AJK, the FO said, is open to everyone and is frequented by foreign tourists and members of the diplomatic community in Pakistan, including representatives of the United Nations.

The FO spokesman pointed out that access to the UN Human Rights mission had been denied by India to held Kashmir. Pakistan, he reminded the world body, had never prevented UN officials from travelling to Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

Meanwhile, Pakistani officials on Thursday were tight-lipped about the Indian response to Islamabad’s offer for dialogue on Kashmir as the Foreign Office started evaluating the reply.

“We are examining the Indian response and would respond later,” Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz told journalists.

A Pakistani official told Dawn that the FO was still reflecting on the Indian response and no decision had been taken as yet.

India while responding to the Pakistani suggestion for dialogue on Kashmir dispute in view of the latest uprising in the Valley had said that it was willing to send Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar to Islamabad for the talks, but conditioned the trip to discussions on “cross-border terrorism” only.

According to Pakistani diplomats aware of the contents of the Indian response, India is not willing to talk about the dispute.

FO spokesman Nafees Zakaria had earlier in the day avoided commenting on the Indian response.

He, however, explained that the talks invitation was “in keeping with our principled position on the issue of Kashmir and in view of the gross human rights violations committed by Indian forces in India-Occupied Kashmir”.

“The foreign secretary extended an invitation to his Indian counterpart to visit Pakistan for talks on Jammu and Kashmir dispute, particularly owing to the ongoing grave violations of human rights situation in India-Occupied Kashmir,” he added.

Mr Zakaria emphasised that resolution of the Kashmir issue in accordance with the UN Security Council resolutions was imperative for lasting peace and stability in the region.

Responding to a question, he said that lethal force being used by the Indian forces against unarmed civilians and peaceful protesters in the Valley was not acceptable.

Disapproving sedition charges against Amnesty International India for hosting an event on abuses by security forces in held Kashmir, the spokesman at his briefing said that India wouldn’t be able to hide the killings and brutalities in Kashmir by suppressing the voices of human rights organisations.

Published in Dawn, August 19th, 2016

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Javed Aug 19, 2016 07:45am

Now it's our turn to chide UN if they don't go with our wishes!!.

Shivam Aug 19, 2016 07:49am

Why so fuss about UN. Every one knows they don't have much power left.

Talha Aug 19, 2016 07:50am

India should allow UN to visit IOK if it has nothing to hide. But India won't allow UN because it has caused great violence in IOK and a UN visit would badly expose India.

Mian Nazir Aug 19, 2016 07:55am

Counter attack! Let Kashmiris don't suffer any more; Right to determination is inevitable right of Kashmiris!!

SKChadha Aug 19, 2016 07:58am

UN has clarified that its role in Kashmir is redundant when India and Pakistan have agreed to settle it bilaterally under 'Simla Agreement'? There is no support for Pakistan in UN on this issue.

Pakistan Aug 19, 2016 08:01am

This is your incompetence Mr Foreign Minister.

Sarfaraz, Aligarh, India Aug 19, 2016 08:05am

Thank you. Lip service is no more required .Indians should not waste their valuable & precious time on these fruitless discussion.

Rakesh Jain Aug 19, 2016 08:08am

“We are examining the Indian response and would respond later,” ??? ..its very straight i think- India would discuss “cross-border terrorism” only.

Aftab Aug 19, 2016 08:09am

Why we have not implemented the first clause of UN resolution?

Akil Akhtar Aug 19, 2016 08:10am

They link the two together to please india......

Paramjeet Singh Ahluwalia Aug 19, 2016 08:12am

"Peaceful" does not mean occupation becomes legal.

Raaz Aug 19, 2016 08:17am

Let some nutral observers see the situation in kashmir. How kashmiri's are being brutalised it is open secret now.

Shaukat Ali Khan Aug 19, 2016 08:29am

Our FO must understand that the UN has not eyes, ears, or brain of its own. It is merely a tool to serve some.

Pak patriot Aug 19, 2016 08:29am

Impotency of our foreign office that they are in this situation now

Shaukat Ali Khan Aug 19, 2016 08:32am

@Shivam

Sorry, I beg to differ with you. UN is extremely powerful where it is needed to be so by the west.

Ayub Aug 19, 2016 08:39am

There is a confusion in the understanding of Indian response. In fact, there are two parts of Kashmir: one under India's control and the other under Pakistan's control. Therefore, first of all, it should be clarified which part of the Kashmir, the Indians have agreed to talk on.

Gerry D'Cunha Aug 19, 2016 08:38am

Kashmir issue was deliberately left open to create tension between the two countries for decades to come. This issue was the master mind of the then establishment in London not to keep both countries at ease.

Realist Aug 19, 2016 08:49am

Surely Sir, it's a peaceful silence of a cemetery.

Akil Akhtar Aug 19, 2016 08:58am

A long as we keep looking towards the west we will keep getting disappointed as they only work in their own interest.....how many times are we going to be stabbed in the back by them before we realise we have to stand on our won feet.

Hitesh Aug 19, 2016 09:06am

India has successfully diverted the attention!!

point of view Aug 19, 2016 09:24am

@Akil Akhtar, good point, every country work for their interest and the fact is that their interest is with India at the moment so please make yourself relevant to the west before raising serious issues with India and seeking help from the UN and the west...The truth is the UN was/is being controlled by the west... This is a harsh truth...

Maryam Aug 19, 2016 09:26am

As Pakistan has welcomed UN so any questions, regarding HR situation in AJK are right away answered and died. Whereas, for India, somebody's saying nothing to hide?,,They have alot to hide so much so that its spilling and its evident that there are worst HR violations of the day today, in IOK.

Maryam Aug 19, 2016 09:29am

@Paramjeet Singh Ahluwalia O it does mean its legal! if people are willing to live with us, are happy and there's peace what else indicates if its legal or not?

Whereas occupation is on Indian side where people demand freedom LOUD and CLEAR!

onlooker Aug 19, 2016 09:36am

Pakistan is slowly getting trapped into its own moves! Diplomatic minnow-ism is at its peak.

K2aa Aug 19, 2016 09:41am

Kashmir is a good issue to keep public engaged away from the failures in Quetta and ofcource Panama Papers

Desi Dimag Aug 19, 2016 09:47am

This is the first Government in India after independence who took the right step regarding Kashmir. Keep watching the developments ahead.

splash Aug 19, 2016 09:51am

@Talha india should make UN visit to the kashmiri pandits refugee camps.

Desi Dimag Aug 19, 2016 09:53am

We Indians are vowed to give at least on more term to Modi to solve Kashmir Issue.

Krana Aug 19, 2016 09:57am

Go UN again haha LOL

zak Aug 19, 2016 09:58am

@Sarfaraz, Aligarh, India that's one excuse for running away from reality and indians living in self denial. Anymore ?

PANT Aug 19, 2016 09:58am

UN is a waste paper basket. What has UN done for the world disputes after its inception

zak Aug 19, 2016 09:59am

@Gerry D ok, but now india should mature up and resolve according to UN resolution. After all india took it to the UN and signed on the acceptance of plebiscite.

ANT Aug 19, 2016 10:00am

This happens when you go running to the UN!!

Ahmed bin Babar Aug 19, 2016 10:00am

UN High Commission for Human Rights should have a permanent monitoring system and mandate to look after the status of Human Rights in the occupied Kashmir...

rama Aug 19, 2016 10:03am

Let start with the development index including the literacy rate, GDP , health care ?

BK Aug 19, 2016 10:06am

What UN can do ? Both countries wants UN take decision as per their views. UN is an independent body, if they consider AJK and IHK situation alike, how can any country to advise them to change the views ? Morevoer, as per UN resolution Pakistan to withdraw all security forces from AJK, and India to deploy minimum required security forces for law and order. Nobody is going to accept UN conditions, then how can we expect solution through UN ?

ravian Aug 19, 2016 10:10am

Good response from FO !

Rahul Aug 19, 2016 10:13am

This is a joke going on between two nations, while civilians are dying. Both countries run to UN with their own versions and when anything contrary comes out of the approach they start cursing the UN. They pick friend and foes based on who is supporting whose version. There is no concept of "freedom for Kashmir" supported by either Pakistan or India. Let this be the starting point of the discussion between the two countries and everything will fall in place. The root cause of the problem is HYPOCRISY

pakistani Aug 19, 2016 10:16am

Indians dont need any third party interference in its domestic matters whether its UN or pakistan or US or China or any other super power

pakistani Aug 19, 2016 10:20am

@Gerry D right.. correctly said. but dont worry we will very soon get rid of this.

SACHIN Aug 19, 2016 10:21am

We are heading towards decisive times on Kashmir.

RAVI Aug 19, 2016 10:28am

@Sarfaraz, Aligarh, India Agreed, let's not waste our energy on useless propaganda ! Today, let's collectively pray to almighty for P V Sindhu's Olympic Gold Medal.

Paul Anderson Aug 19, 2016 10:40am

The protesters were hurling rocks at the security forces. Do you call that a peaceful prestest?

Eskaybee Aug 19, 2016 10:46am

Kashmir has become a ping pong table for both the nations. They and ksahmiris know that there can't any other feasible solution other than the status quo. They will keep playing ping pong till all the energies and resources are exhausted. In the process, common people living in both the parts will keep suffering. Sad.

Ahmed bin Babar Aug 19, 2016 10:49am

@Paul Anderson Have you ever read the rights of the liberation movements under the international law..?

Ahmed bin Babar Aug 19, 2016 10:51am

@pakistani Disputed not domestic matter...

Angry Pitbull Aug 19, 2016 10:54am

This is what happens when pakistan keep on knocking others door for help rather than solving problems by talkin directly to the opponent.

RUCHIMAH Aug 19, 2016 11:05am

@Javed Rightly said.

Ahmed bin Babar Aug 19, 2016 11:07am

@Angry Pitbull Who is reluctant to talks over Kashmir..?

Sajj Aug 19, 2016 11:11am

The UN, that waste of space

AK Aug 19, 2016 11:14am

It is cross border terrorism in J&K.Kashmiri Pandits are forcibly thrown out.The Kashmiri Pandits are the original inhabitants of Kashmir valley. The whole of J&K is a territory of india.

Fazal Ahmed Aug 19, 2016 11:15am

It is astonishing that UN would need to visit IOK to determine whether there is violation of freedom and human rights in the Indian held territory. As if more than six decades history is not enough to convince the international community. Furthermore, visiting Azad Kashmir is beyond my comprehension. It is "Azad" valley, with its own independent government! It is nothing but just a pretence to put off any practical measures which are long due. After brutal killings of more than fifty and hue and cry for more than a month, this is mere lullaby to sooth the ailing Kashmiries.

RUCHIMAH Aug 19, 2016 11:15am

@Ahmed bin Babar As you know the rights of liberation please also shed light on rights of security forces getting pelted and getting injured.

SLIDER Aug 19, 2016 11:22am

There is no hope of any useful dialogue as alongside the invitation for talks , both sides are slinging mud against each other . Talks if any even if scheduled would be cosmetic with each side not compromising on their respective positions.

SKS Aug 19, 2016 11:35am

@zak - India took it to the UN and withdraw it. Case became infructuous. So no case is pending in Court (UN) for adjudication.

S Karani Aug 19, 2016 11:39am

If India wants to talk on terrorism and trade first, what is the problem for Pakistan ? Isn't that an economically viable situation ? Pakistan's stubbornness on talking about Kashmir and Kashmir alone is not benefitting the actual people of Pakistan or Kashmir. Only politicians seem to benefit

Kashmir@ Aug 19, 2016 11:46am

@Paul Anderson How long we r waiting for the world to wake up.??? And now U can see our stones but cant see their bullets.

Apoo Aug 19, 2016 11:53am

India has clearly stated "no talks on Kashmir, talks will be on terror"

Abdulkarim Aug 19, 2016 12:11pm

@Paramjeet Singh Ahluwalia Yes your occupation of IOK is illegal.

Anonymous Aug 19, 2016 12:13pm

Whether Kashmir stays as it is or becomes independent may not be of importance to the rest of the world. The whole world is now affected by recession and Syria and ISIS are attracting all the attention of major powers. Also it is not clear why Pakistan wants independence of Kashmir. Independent Kashmir may not be economically viable and it will not be able to survive the security threats.

Akram Aug 19, 2016 12:19pm

Unnecessary statement by FO. UN should be allowed to freely visit both parts of Kashmir and then make up their own impression. In Azad Kashmir they will not find thousands of occupying troops or youth blinded by pellets.

Zealot Aug 19, 2016 12:36pm

UN fact finding team will fail to find so called violence or even Heavy military deployment in AJK.UN you are most welcome to find fact in entire Pakistan not just AJK.

Ahmed bin Babar Aug 19, 2016 12:37pm

@Anonymous Misleading, Kashmiris are the real, ever going, power of Kashmir...

Farhan Ali Aug 19, 2016 12:42pm

UN becomes poodle and puppet of US. America always intrigues and fires from others shoulder against those which form close relations with China. US knows that booming China is an alarm bell for their survival as a veto.

Modi Aug 19, 2016 12:59pm

@Farhan Ali ... So? Didn't you knew this earlier?

Umer Aug 19, 2016 01:04pm

Armed Resistance is the only solution.

Salil Chowdhury Aug 19, 2016 01:26pm

"resolution of the Kashmir issue in accordance with the UN Security Council resolutions was imperative" - where is and what is UN resolution? it died long back.

Zealot Aug 19, 2016 01:37pm

It could be fake minded,propodandist,antipakistani, clever,fradulant,manipulative, treachereous,lier India's attempt to prompt UN to do so.Guess what,Both will failed miserably this time

john Aug 19, 2016 01:38pm

@Umer keep it up

Ashraf Aug 19, 2016 01:42pm

Gross human rights violations committed by Indian forces in Kashmir should be investigated. India is agreeing just to visit Pakistan for talk but it will be lip services to show to the world that we have spoken to Pakistan. No result will come from this talk. Third party shall be involved like UN as Judge as least to hear the arguments. I hope UN send the team to investigate both Kashmirs, Indian and Pakistani. Reality will be, India will deny the UN High commission to investigate because India has to hide lot of brutalities and Pakistan will allow to investigate because it has nothing to hide.

M.Saeed Aug 19, 2016 02:10pm

Just see what Dr. Karan Singh, the member of India Council of States (Upper House) and son of (late) Maharajah Hari Singh of Kashmir, very clearly stated in the House yesterday. He said, his father was forced by Nehru and Mountbatten to sign the letter of allegiance. Still he insisted and ensured inclusion of article 370 in the Indian constitution that makes a special condition of autonomy for the state. It is unfortunate that, non of our leaders so far has been able to realize what is the truth of the matter. It was high time our leaders picked up the statement and launched our renewed campaign on the basis of statement of Dr. Karan Singh.

Zealot Aug 19, 2016 02:30pm

@M.Saeed our politican's carelessness=indian fradulance

timetostopthis Aug 19, 2016 02:33pm

@zak Your ignorance on the plebiscite is obvious. Please go and read up before commenting here

timetostopthis Aug 19, 2016 02:39pm

@pakistani You are absolutely right. Pakistan needs to understand this very basic fact. No one can dictate to India.

Sohail Khan Wazir Aug 19, 2016 03:45pm

Absolutely right. There is no equation between AJK and IOK. The world knows.

Houlbelat Aug 19, 2016 04:21pm

@Hitesh: Self-patting is no success.

Shakiel Ahmed Aug 20, 2016 03:34am

@Shaukat Ali Khan

@Shivam

Sorry, I beg to differ with you. UN is extremely powerful where it is needed to be so by the west.

Unfortunately, Pakistan is in south Asia, not west.