No breakthrough expected on bilateral dialogue with India: Sartaj Aziz
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan does not expect any breakthrough on resumption of bilateral dialogue with India while the Modi-administration is in-charge of affairs, Adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz said Tuesday.
Aziz was speaking to reporters after inaugurating the annual conference of the Pakistan Institute of Development Economics in Islamabad.
"India has suspended [the] dialogue process and now it's their responsibility to resume it," he said.
Earlier in August, India had called off foreign secretary-level bilateral talks with Pakistan following criticism of Pakistani High Commissioner Abdul Basit's meeting with Hurriyat leader Shabir Shah.
Read: India calls off foreign secretary level talks with Pakistan
News agencies had quoted the Indian External Affairs as saying: "Pakistan High Commissioner's meeting with the 'so-called' separatist leaders undermines the constructive diplomatic engagement initiated by Indian premier Narendra Modi on his very first day in office."
Aziz also lamented the attitude of the Indian government towards the Kashmir dispute and said that the neighbouring country wanted to link Kashmir with terrorism to divert the world's attention.
"Over the last forty years bilateral-ism has failed on Kashmir and that's why Pakistan wanted to engage international community on the matter," he remarked.
Read: Sharif invites India to resolve Kashmir dispute through dialogue
Aziz said that friendship with India could only be possible without compromising on our self-respect, honour and equality.
In December last year, Pakistan and India had pledged to uphold the 2003 LoC ceasefire accord which had been left in tatters by repeated violations that year. The truce breaches had put the nascent bilateral peace dialogue on hold.
The Himalayan territory of Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan by the UN-monitored de facto border of LoC but is claimed in full by both the countries.
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Dec 02, 2014 01:56pm
How do u even expected that India will talk about Kashmir without the terrorism issue that is supported whole heartedely from your country. You cannot dictate terms while your people plan to kill us.
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Dec 02, 2014 01:58pm
Who wants your friendship buddy??and for which reason??
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Dec 02, 2014 02:07pm
we need to show cold shoulder to India, lets how long Modi can keep starched attitude, usual Indian govt attitude... doesnt matter if it is congress of BJp both are equally useless...lets take Kashmir by force.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:08pm
On foreign affairs, this Government is working excellent in so many years.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:12pm
Alas it took us so many decades to realize this, while it was always written on the wall!
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Dec 02, 2014 02:12pm
this shadow FM cannot say like that all by himself .... someone has injected these words in his mouth. a good thing but too little and way too late for Indian aggression on our borders. it took them 11 years to understand Modi cannot be our friend. wow, staggering and immortally painful for us to see our so called leaders are so numb and cold feet when we talk about India.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:14pm
Modi government is expected to remain in power for at least ten years or may be fifteen years and if Pakistan says it's India's responsibility to resume dialogue process. So it looks like there will be no dialogue between India and Pakistan for ten to fifteen years.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:14pm
Lets stop cross border terrorism infusion from both sides for a period of times, the guns will be silenced and than there will be enough peace for dialogues to happen between the 2 countries and not two fractions.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:16pm
dont worry guys, everything will alright, just forget india for a while and keep eye on internal affairs.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:22pm
Aziz said that friendship with India could only be possible without compromising on our "self-respect, honour and equality".
I agree with the "self-respect and honour". But in which field are we equal with India?
Neither Economy, Size, Clout, Military, GDP growth, Soft-power,Population, Image, Diaspora, Education, Health facilities, Infrastructure etc.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:23pm
I dont think the current Pak govt has the blessings of the army to improve relations with India which is why there is a sudden back-tracking on discussions with India and placing the onus on India..
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Dec 02, 2014 02:36pm
"Neighbouring country wanted to link Kashmir with terrorism to divert the world's attention." .............
Mumbai terror attack is enough to counter Pakistan on Kashmir. World communities are not blind, they know what is going on. No one including arab countries support pakistan on kashmir.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:38pm
How Mr. Sartaz Aziz can expect improve relation with India, where you publicly favour militants those are not inimical to Pakistan but working against other countries including to India. Firstly sincerity is required to take forward bilateral talks. You always gripped on outdated UN resolution on Kashmir which expired after Shimla Agreement. Be sincere and truthful then only problem can be resolved.
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Dec 02, 2014 02:50pm
This is man needs to retire. Nobody is overtly optimistic but you cant be this negative before you start. The whole government needs retiring.......to " Retire Wind" of Shareefs.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:09pm
India is a democratic setup while pak is a security state run by army. both can not be friends untill army comes under civil rule.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:14pm
Keep dreaming
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Dec 02, 2014 03:15pm
People! We have had enough of unnecessary confrontation, bitterness and animosity over the last seven decades. It has gotten us nowhere. We need to move on towards a better future together. Youngsters on both sides have much at stake in ensuring a peaceful and friendly region. Let us work towards it.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:16pm
"No breakthrough expected on bilateral dialogue with India"
Any kid can tell you that. Pakistan wants Kashmir in the limelight while India wants Kashmir to be forgotten and off the table. India wants complete capitulation and for Pakistan to accept Indian hegemony in South East Asia, Pakistan will never accept it.
Can anyone please enlighten me how the two countries can sit together for an honest bilateral dialogue?
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Dec 02, 2014 03:19pm
india spend almost 64 years without pakistan friendship or support & still ahead of all pakistan in every field they can spend more 150 or 500 years without pakistan & make the develop india but can pakistan survive & develop without indian support & indian friendship ?
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Dec 02, 2014 03:23pm
@sap india what about releasing the prisoners, what are ur comments? Donot be hypocrite, I want you to write true reaction. Otherwise no need for you to comment any news thanks
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Dec 02, 2014 03:24pm
Try breakthrough peace with TTP, if you can, then success will come through.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:29pm
Read the comments across the border and the government statements coming from India. I agree with Sartaj, the time is not ripe for discussion, what ever the reason. People like me believing in aman ki asha should take a break on this side of the border and concentrate on our internal issues rather than India and Modi for the next 10 years. We have already too much on our plate terrorism, economy, health, education, balochistan, internal religious tolerance and harmony. Lets leave the talks with India in the refrigerator for the next 10 years. Will be good for both sides.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:29pm
It is good...India & Pakistan need some silent period and let your people who usually shout and make noise, will cool down. In fact for at least 2 years India & Pakistan should not talk to each other and when you are calm & respect the value of talks and silence the terrorist & their camp...the talks can resume.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:29pm
OK, beg for international support and make us talk. INDIA is a responsible country. So nobody dares to dictate terms to us. LOL...
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Dec 02, 2014 03:30pm
your problem is that you have no credibility , and 80% of your budget is spent on your army and debt reduction.
As clint Eastwood said ' Go ahead punk - make my day'
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Dec 02, 2014 03:30pm
@Taimur Keep that thoughts in your dreams buddy.... its never going to happen... We all know who is powerful
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Dec 02, 2014 03:31pm
@Blister
Here PTI goes again.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:36pm
Pak flexible position on Kashmir over the past decade made Indian Leaders arrogant. Pak should stick to her position to initiate dialogue without ignoring Kashmires leadership.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:39pm
Dear Adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif!! Please go home and take rest. You did nothing for overseas Pakistanis.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:46pm
Sartaz Aziz, could your government make any breakthrough peace with Taliban? NO
Could your government make any breakthrough peace with Imran Khan and Qadri? NO
Sorry, for having failed miserably. Please bring peace in Pakistan first.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:46pm
Give POK back to India and we can live happily there after!
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Dec 02, 2014 03:48pm
Forget these discussions or dialogues. For 5 years both countries can forget each other and focus in developing their own economies.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:51pm
Thank you sir for your understanding on this. Now you have understood, what is the point in bringing this topic again and again and yet again.
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Dec 02, 2014 03:52pm
It better for you Mr. Sartaj to keep silent and avail whatever benefits comes across being adviser
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Dec 02, 2014 03:54pm
@Laddoo No need to get enlightened. We anyways are going back to stone ages, so what's the point in you being enlightened?
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Dec 02, 2014 03:59pm
with 73% voting kashmir is already off the table!! we should talk border issues now
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Dec 02, 2014 04:00pm
@taimoor: I totally agree. I recommended your comment. Plz do or at least try to do this wat you say.
On the other note, isn't this the same person who said they're attacking bad terrorist only sparing good ones.
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Dec 02, 2014 04:05pm
So, answer me honestly Mr. FM,
Is the Kashmir issue not linked with terrorism?
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Dec 02, 2014 04:11pm
@Taimur : by force? ha ha you seems so funny
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Dec 02, 2014 04:12pm
@Taimur Read about your history of waging wars before you make such comments
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Dec 02, 2014 04:25pm
@Akbaruddin no fruitful talks in last 67 years and what difference it makes if another 10-15 years?
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Dec 02, 2014 04:31pm
this Century, the Boundaries will not be redrawn, everyone knows, than where is the question of Talk.
if talk is to done, than it is for the POK to be handed over to India
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Dec 02, 2014 04:33pm
Heheeee.....stating the obvious? You want to say something, Mr. Aziz?
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Dec 02, 2014 04:42pm
Mr Sartaj Aziz, you do not represent the will of the people. Pakistanis care two hoots about friendship with India, but the reason you are doing it, is because the Americans are pushing you and you are working to their agenda. Pakistan is too strong and proud nation for you to shame us with words like ' friendship with self respect, honour and equality'. You don't ask for it, it is there already, don't demean our nation. You should be saying, 'India needs to show sincerity on Resolving Kashmir,if it wants friendship'.
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Dec 02, 2014 04:50pm
@Alam Yes I agree. Talks will be useless. Let us stay silent and concentrate on our internal matters.
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Dec 02, 2014 04:56pm
Why are you not conducting new meetings with Hurriyat?
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Dec 02, 2014 04:56pm
If India can develop itself without friendship of Pakistan and Pakistan can develop with its own pace what it is doing now , why would India need friendship of Pakistan. Let other neighbours take advantage of India growth story, who cares !
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Dec 02, 2014 04:56pm
@Taimur Yep... Like that hasn't been tried before... You've failed in all such endeavors... Might you not direct your energies to more productive ventures??
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Dec 02, 2014 05:02pm
@Ali-Indian Who are these 73% and what are they voting for?
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Dec 02, 2014 05:02pm
These talks are a waste of time. Both sides talking to the wrong people. Pakistan talks to un-elected Kashmirs and India talks to elected government with no power.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:07pm
These talks are a waste of time. Both sides talking to the wrong people. Pakistan talks to un-elected Kashmirs and India talks to elected government with no power.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:16pm
@BOB same to you, keep dreaming that Pakistan will give up its stance on Kashmir
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Dec 02, 2014 05:21pm
@Kranti yes and keep crying for all the freedom fighters who is fighting against your army and beating them like anything, don't cry and come to Pakistan with your complains lol .... who said we need your friendship, we can and will survive just worry about yourself
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Dec 02, 2014 05:28pm
As per Pakistan,solving Kashmir issue means India handing it over to them on a platter. This is not going to happen in the short term or medium term. No Indian government will agree for another partition.
As for the long term,who knows. Any thing could happen. Spain has been demanding Gibraltar from Britain for 400 years and so has Argentina been demanding Falklands for 300 years. So Pakistan has to show patience and wait. And in the interim solve other “unimportant” issues like polio,water scarcity, power outages, inter provincial disputes on dams, sectarianism etc. And of course the elephant in the room Terrorism.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:30pm
Sir, you need to retire. These are not your words, but words forcibly put into your mouth by your army. India cares 3 hoots about friendship with Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:31pm
India does not give two hoots on what we want. I do not know why we run around begging them to talk to us!!
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Dec 02, 2014 05:39pm
Despite the fact that India and Pakistan have a very delicate and complex relation, both the countries should understand the reality of our relationship. it is difficult to make a cordial relations but still we have some hope from people of the both side to create the atmosphere for trust, not animosity. i am very much sure, when common people will pressurize their governments, political leaders and bureaucrats to create a friendly culture between both the countries, things will be fine. I don't think army and terrorist forceses will give us any opportunity, we have to create it through people to people contact.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:40pm
India should remain positive with pakistan as their internal security threats are already looming.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:41pm
@Abbas releasing poor innocent prisoners does not need any high profile bilateral meeting and deep friendship
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Dec 02, 2014 05:54pm
Remember May 11, 1998 when India tested Nuclear 5 bombs and their tone was very aggressive and threatened to take Azad Kashmir as well. That rhetoric continued until Pakistan tested 7 bombs two weeks later. India became very calm thereafter.
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Dec 02, 2014 05:56pm
@Pc, Remember old saying, one people's freedom fight is terrorism to oppressor..
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Dec 02, 2014 06:01pm
@Ahmed Khan Well said Sir. If there are even 10 % ppl like you in Pakistan, then Pakistan will surely get out of current mess and will develop.
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Dec 02, 2014 06:28pm
Talks should only resume once India quits hegemonic attitude. No need for Pakistan to show weakness. If India is not interested in talks then we least pushed about it.
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Dec 02, 2014 06:42pm
Lets also close our embassies and call back our diplomats. Why to maintain them and wast people's money, the same money can be used in other fields.
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Dec 02, 2014 06:45pm
@Akbaruddin
That sounds fine to me. There is nothing to be achieved by talking as nothing has ever been achieved in the past. Both countries should accept that there is another nation on the other side of border with whom we can not get on and therefore it is better to ignore the other and concentrate on their own country. There is no harm in doing that and may be after another 100 years things might change.
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Dec 02, 2014 07:24pm
BJP need some skilled people to run foreign affair business. This chest thumping attitude is damaging more India then Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2014 07:52pm
@Zak Friendship is unconditional, rest is farce dear.
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Dec 02, 2014 07:59pm
@Omar You're right. You are surviving, neither evolving nor developing. You make me recollect the school time physics chapter on the inertia...!!!
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Dec 02, 2014 08:20pm
If you are not expecting any results then why waste tax payers money..?
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Dec 02, 2014 09:01pm
Aziz said that friendship with India could only be possible without compromising on our self-respect, honour and equality.
Mr. Aziz where does Pakistan stand in it's friendships with US & China? How much equal footing we get with them or for that matter any other country in the world?
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Dec 02, 2014 09:03pm
@haider
Really? I think Pakistan needs to bury the emotions and start thinking with self interest in mind.
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Dec 02, 2014 09:04pm
This is what all neutral, independent, unbiased and third party scholars, academics, experts and professionals in field of international business and global relations have already analyzed since the annexation of Jammu and Kashmir in the 1950s by the so-called biggest (sham) democracy in the world under the watch of its founding father and first Prime Minister.
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Dec 02, 2014 09:09pm
@haider
worry about yr own country
bjp can take care of itself
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Dec 02, 2014 09:20pm
@Taimur - Buddy it pays to be practical and realistic.
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Dec 02, 2014 09:43pm
@Akbaruddin And, Cong-I is not coming to power any time soon for the next 50 years !!!
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Dec 02, 2014 11:49pm
@haider Pl send capable and skilled foreign policy advisors like Mr. Aziz to train Indian foreign affairs office...
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Dec 03, 2014 12:56am
So much difference in Indian and Pakistani perspective, which proves we have nothing in common, I fact have more differences than with any other nation. We have commonality with Afghanistan, Iran and Middle East, even Central Asia, but not India.
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Dec 03, 2014 05:34am
@Ahmed Khan Self respect and honour for Pakistan,how about the samefor India?
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Dec 03, 2014 06:30am
Modi government has too many responsibilities it cant waste time and money on talks with non entities such as civilian govt of Pakistan and Pakistan army which is in reality rules Pakistan doesnt want to solve Kashmir issue, because if it is resolved then it will not ge5 major share of budget.
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