Civilians suffer as firing continues along Indo-Pak border
Agencies Published October 8, 2014
Indian and Pakistani troops traded heavy fire in the disputed Kashmir region, worsening tensions between the long-time rivals, officials on both sides said Wednesday.
The fire exchanges, which had been termed as the worst violation of a 2003 cease-fire, claimed lives of more than 20 civilians on both sides.
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Oct 08, 2014 07:38pm
nice unbiased article by dawn,i am sure they are well aware who is responsible for initiating this violence too.
Jatinder Paul Singh
Oct 08, 2014 07:39pm
Surprise surprise!!! No fireworks exchanged here!! Where are the hardcore patriots!! Congratulations Dawn!! For publishing the images of both sides. Suffering looks similar, people look similar, what the dash even the mortar shells shown by both sides are same!! Who is it bombing us!! Us or they!! Grow up India Grow up Pakistan !! Dawn please do publish this!! JP Singj
Oct 08, 2014 07:47pm
congrats Dawn for publishing pics from indian side too..
Oct 08, 2014 07:51pm
There must be immediate cease fire along both sides to avoid any further losses regardless of violations blames from both sides as the false propaganda will continue and no body will know the real fact.
Oct 08, 2014 07:57pm
I salute you Dawn ...for your impartial journalism . Keep up the good work and make rulers of both countries open their eyes. Coz war will only bring pain and despair
Oct 08, 2014 08:04pm
Bravo Dawn, for publishing unbiased article.
Oct 08, 2014 08:06pm
The army on both sides is escalating issues to undermine attempts at peace. The more peace there is the less budget the army gets and the less their need. This reduces their influence and reach. This reduction in influence strengthens people as they realize the other side isn't evil but also human, trying to live and let live. We need more trading, more people to people contact, and reduction of this power struggle. It can only happen by opening up trading, easing border and visa restrictions and simply letting people be. They'll automatically start seeing who the real culprits are when they start meeting each other. @UnshacklePak
Oct 08, 2014 08:07pm
These photos vividly describe the plight of those affected by tit-for-tat fire exchanges by armies of both sides. One fails to understand what they gain by inflicting such cruelties on innocent civilians. It is time for sensible people on both sides to wake up and act.
Oct 08, 2014 08:07pm
sad sad sad
Oct 08, 2014 08:12pm
Let our leaders know on both sides no one wants this...loss is same innocent lives on both sides ...let's not learn the hard way.
Oct 08, 2014 08:32pm
A truely unbiased article by the Pakistani newspaper......
Oct 08, 2014 08:43pm
salute to dawn for showing both sides of the story.
Oct 08, 2014 08:46pm
Congratulations Dawn for publishing unbiased pictures from both side.
Oct 08, 2014 08:55pm
Appreciate this fair reporting
Oct 08, 2014 09:11pm
This is the right and best way to report. Just get the facts from both sides of the border and publish them for the knowledge of everyone. After that people can make their own judgments on right and wrong. I can only say one thing - it is shameful that civilians who don't even have sticks to guard themselves, most of whom are not even strong to stand on their own for an hour, are bearing the brunt!
Oct 08, 2014 09:15pm
To both sides----- this is no way of celebrating Eid and Dasehra.
Oct 08, 2014 09:22pm
its a great example of journalism...
Oct 08, 2014 09:22pm
The sad part was that I had to look at the description if it was Pak or India. What a shame!
Oct 08, 2014 09:25pm
Oct 08, 2014 09:28pm
Good to see the pictures of both sides and it's very good on Dawn's journalism!! To all Indians, this is how journalism is done and just before visiting dawn I visited TOI and found only one sided point of view with lots of hate. Pl learn from Dawn which indeed is a pakistani news paper.
Oct 08, 2014 09:34pm
its a great gesture of Dawn by showing our peoples suffering on both sides of borders
Oct 08, 2014 09:34pm
We salute you DAWN. keep showing the reality. Let common man understand who is instigating. Sufferings are same on both sides!!!
Oct 08, 2014 09:37pm
Both sides need to stop!! This is futile!! Innocent lives lost on both sides
Oct 08, 2014 09:39pm
We need to work together to stop these incidents. The lives of common people are being destroyed.
Oct 08, 2014 09:43pm
now maybe india's journalism needs to act in an unbiased and humanistic fashion and bring the plight of innocent people to the masses so they can eliminate this political driven hatred ... politicians that don't agree on issues shouldn't be given the free hand to create more misunderstandings ... indian media is wholly biased and even if Indians do not agree with me than just take a moment to review some of the NDTV anchors and their outtake on many controversial subjects involving the enemy PAKISTAN. India will never ever see Pakistan as their friend even if Pakistani's try so hard to live in peace with them because to an Indian they only see the extremist Pakistani which the Pakistani's themselves are a victim of all over. I have a lot of indian friends and I truly have never let politics ever come in the middle of our friendship but I have heard comments here and there I find to be very political and it does not bother me to a degree at which I would dissolve a friendship but I do hope that there are more people that open their minds to the possibility that this old age conflict is all about money and job security for the politicians and soldiers and the military equipment manufacturers ..
Oct 08, 2014 09:44pm
Two nations from one of the oldest civilization heaping brutalities on each other's civilians. One has to be provocator and the other provoked. The eye for eye and tooth for.tooth is getting too far. Hope it doesn't go out of control.
Oct 08, 2014 09:48pm
Full compliments to Dawn. It is a balanced Newspaper and an epitome of journalism.. please take in Arnab Goswami under your wings for some time and train him :)
Oct 08, 2014 09:49pm
Its the Dawn of the Modi era!
Oct 08, 2014 09:53pm
@ Acho Billa.. your comment should really show us the mirror... both sides the villages and villagers look the same.. they are far away from the affluence of Mumbai and Karachi and the power centers of Delhi and Islambad/Rawalpindi- however they become the pawns in these games. If you did not have the description you could not make out who is who.. and I I wonder how much their lives have really changed in their respective promised lands since 1947!
Oct 08, 2014 09:54pm
Salute to Dawn for true journlism and publishing sufferings on both sides of the sad border ... I hope those responsible on both sides, for this suffering of innocent, poor, helpless public, wake up their conscious, take a pause and realize that their policies and actions are inflicting pain and suffering, they are wasting resources and energies that these very people desperately need to build their lives, communities and bright future on both sides of the border. One country can not move to a different location to chages its neighbours and one can not buy peace through violance ... People, lives, dreams are same on both sides. So called leaders, please grow up and serve your public for what you were elected for by hook or crook.
Oct 08, 2014 09:59pm
Wish it becomes mandatory for such images to be published each time we see such violence. I had to actually scroll down to determine if the photo was Indian or Pakistani. Perhaps we should withhold the caption and purely see the human suffering...
Oct 08, 2014 10:02pm
Congrats Dawn for maintaining the ethics in journalism.
Oct 08, 2014 10:02pm
@Moiz Omar ,,Yes, it is really greatness on the part of Dawn, they are showing stories from both sides. I have copied the URL and going to paste on comments on biased sites, indian or Pakistani.
Oct 08, 2014 10:02pm
Well I never thought I would say this but there is one thing where India can learn a lesson from Pakistan. And that is unbiased and ethical reporting. Thank you Dawn. PCI can learn a lot from you.
Oct 08, 2014 10:07pm
Dawn is one of the respected newspapers, no doubt of it! Its indeed a sad game played in the name of religion as well J&K that many lives has lost, many lives has devastated and damages made. Stop day dreaming and take ground realities in this modern world for betterment of all human life of both sides of the nation which has a shared history and heritage! Give peace a chance!
Oct 08, 2014 10:18pm
I can't understand why this is happenings! Feel sad for the familys on both side. Poor people get hurt for no reason.
Oct 08, 2014 10:19pm
Though I'm an Indian & regularly read Dawn online.I must admit quality of journalism of Dawn is quite high compared to most of Indian print media. I congratulate their team, in India The Hindu was known to maintain high standards but sorry to say they are becoming narrow minded day by day. Coming to this firing along Indo-Pak border incident I don't know where & when this will end. Economy of India was showing signs of recovery after 7-8 years, incidents like this are going to drain our budget & indirect burden will be borne by the common man. Lets get mature and move on with life. Countries who are into arms trade will benefit from this; both of us are going to loose because both of us import most of our defense equipment from the same country.
Oct 08, 2014 10:23pm
The article is really touching.
Oct 08, 2014 10:25pm
Thanks dawn for looking at both sides of the coin. Unbiased reporting by dawn is highly commendable. Only the poor on both the sides suffer, the real culprits escape. have you seen a kid who asks for a chocolate and promises he wont ask again. here chocolate is kashmir. Both the sides are claiming entire kashmir is theirs. Ironically Both the sides are killing the innocent kashmiris. What common man will gain if Kashmir becomes part of India or kashmir becomes part of pakistan, absolutely nothing. We should cooperate with each other start living like good neighbours and like brothers as we lived when we were in a single country.
Oct 08, 2014 10:26pm
Good that Dawn has published photos from both sides. The sad part is still no solution for this problem. Need to punish the people who started this ceasefire violation.
AMRENDRA KUMAR SINGH
Oct 08, 2014 10:40pm
Unbiased journalism Dawn!!! It is unfortunate that common people are suffering along the both sides of border. Political authority ,and not army, in both countries should find solution to end this.
Oct 08, 2014 10:53pm
Kudos dawn. . Appropriating job done!
Oct 08, 2014 11:00pm
Nice Article Dawn
Oct 08, 2014 11:23pm
@Zee .... Indians have their own way to show appreciation.......notice how many Indians are openly saluting Dawn, the Pakistani news paper?
Oct 08, 2014 11:42pm
Wow...unbiased article from pakistani newspaper...Kudos to them!
Oct 08, 2014 11:53pm
What do we get by killing each other ??? Think about all those family members who lost their dear ones in this firing. Both shd imm stop firing at each other
Oct 09, 2014 12:40am
Nice article. India pak should sort it out before anyone uses the condition for their purpose
Oct 09, 2014 01:27am
When two bulls fights, only the small animal suffers.
Oct 09, 2014 01:50am
So apparently no one was injured in Pakistan?
Oct 09, 2014 01:55am
garib insaan ka bahut looksan hota hai... is ko dekh kar dukh hota hai...
Oct 09, 2014 02:34am
I m surprised too this is absolute impartial example of journalism. The firworks must be stopped immediately
Oct 09, 2014 03:34am
Congrats Dawn for unbiased reporting. I read at various media outlets. So far Dawn one of the best in terms of independent and objective reporting. I hope it will help to remove ignorance.
Shamsher Singh Bajwa
Oct 09, 2014 03:52am
And thats why i have so much love for you DAWN!! Thank you for your unbiased reporting!
Oct 09, 2014 04:04am
Dawn's another report says that there have been civilian causalities in Pakistan. However the photo round up above gives the impression that only Indians have been injured. I do not disagree with covering both sides of the conflict, but this should be done in a balanced way. I do not know why my earlier comment was not posted, it was simply a question about civilian casualties on Pakistani side of the border.
Oct 09, 2014 04:22am
I wish Indian media starts reporting like dawn. Instead, it has gone bollywood with fictional stories.
Oct 09, 2014 04:33am
Thanks for the unbiased article. These articles will help people view the real scenario in ground and support human values keeping aside politics.
Oct 09, 2014 04:38am
Alas if our leaders could learn in this no win game. Only the poor and helpless suffer.
Oct 09, 2014 04:53am
These are the poorest of the poor. What insanity targeting civilians. Why don't engage in a nuclear exchange next?
Oct 09, 2014 04:57am
@Zee Not all Pakistani newspapers are dawn, not all Indian newspapers are ToI. If you want more biased coverage, listen to Arnab but not every Indian thinks like Arnab does for Pak policy.
Oct 09, 2014 05:12am
let senses should prevail on India and Pakistan to avoid blood shed.Two nations can not afford another war
Oct 09, 2014 05:43am
First, as an Indian I want to say how impressed I am with Dawn. It is heartening to see sensibility displayed by Dawns in this mad conflict. The blame goes for both sides. If you want to display your manliness, I say eradicate poverty. Provide cleaning drinking water. Eliminate corruption. Instead, political class from both sides, who have nothing to loose, are indulging in this foolish exercise. It pains and hurts to see common folks suffering on both sides. When i look at the pictures on pakistani side, i see my mom, dad, brothers, sisters and friends. I see the same on Indian side. When are we ever going to treat each other with respect. We are the poorest of the poor people and we are shelling each other with expensive military hardware. What madness
Oct 09, 2014 06:00am
Excellent reporting by Dawn. Quite balanced with vivid pictures.
Oct 09, 2014 06:13am
Xlent presentation of the facts, unbiased.
Oct 09, 2014 08:27am
I Salute Dawn for this unbiased article ... we need more journalists like you... Dawn feels better than Times of India today......
The true Indian
Oct 09, 2014 09:02am
@Unshackle Pakistan And allowing Terrorists to come and bomb...so funny man.
Shailendra Kumar Singh
Oct 09, 2014 09:04am
Impartial unbiased! This is the true spirit of journalism. I solute Dawn for showing reality from both sides. Great .............
Oct 09, 2014 09:16am
So much is being done in the world... Other countries are progressing...Scientists are inventing new stuffs for mankind winning Nobel...Have these countries people won Nobel for the time immemorial...holding knives against each other since their inception...when will this end...may parents and grand parents did not see this end...I do not foresee a solution in my lifetime...Fighting for a piece of land I see these two great countries reduced to foolish brothers fighting for their claims on a piece of ancestral land....
Oct 09, 2014 10:37am
Pakistanis are suffering too.
Oct 09, 2014 11:37am
A great example of journalism, portraying pain of both sides. See TOI news. India is attacking solders, Pakistan is attacking civilians!!!
Oct 09, 2014 01:19pm
I hate this Pakistani obsession with fairness. I can assure you in Indian new reports you will not see many pictures of injuries on Pakistani side. In fact, they would create lies just to show us in evil light. Who cares whats happening on the other side when my own people are getting killed. Please, develop a sense of self worth.
Oct 09, 2014 02:21pm
Proud moment ...keep this spirit alive DAWN u have history of the unbiased reporting. Gratitude.
Kalyan Ali Mondal
Oct 09, 2014 02:28pm
First, Thank you DAWN for unbiased reporting. Each and every minutes we, the peace loving people, are being killed. Violence, war, hatred never helps... Urging for sensible people on both sides to wake up and act.
Oct 09, 2014 02:50pm
India believes in peace, in last 1000 years India has never raised sword against anyone to attack, but not at the cost of mortality of its civilians & its freedom, we do not want peace if our neighbours do not want to maintain it on border. Ball is in your court now..
Oct 09, 2014 03:49pm
Sad to see innocent die, In Kargil also, it was a pseudo war by PAK army and PAK army General boasted his victory in Indian territory. what was the result back to LOC.
Oct 09, 2014 04:07pm
Appreciate your way of Journalism...some times I am ashamed of ours! Specialy Arnav Goswamy...Invite Pakistani Guest and don't alow them to speak whatever their opinion and hatered against India...We must respect and listen to their opinion for which the debate is called for... Well done
Oct 09, 2014 04:37pm
@Zee a small correction, its the papers that need to learn unbiased journalism, we indians look for news from both sides. Many indians commenting here is an example of it. The reason why Indian media does not show Pak side is because, it wants to show that BSF has not responded
Oct 09, 2014 05:51pm
It is difficult to differentiate between the two sides Military :: who is more macho sadistic & fools ( both) People:: who have suffered less ( neither) Shame:: to both sides
Oct 09, 2014 10:27pm
Good journalism. One cant tell one people apart from the other until one reads the caption. Yet, both suffer. Sorry to see people of one region, one culture suffering death and injury for no fault of theirs. There have to be an understanding between the opposing sides that under no circumstances will civilian areas will come under fire.
Oct 10, 2014 01:30am
Great job Dawn.
Oct 10, 2014 04:25am
Pakistan and India. Look at who is dying here. Press the ALL STOP button right now.
Oct 10, 2014 08:28am
@being human who are "THEY", my dear fellow citizen of the Earth?
Oct 10, 2014 11:42am
a ceasefire must be implemented soon by both side
Oct 10, 2014 07:19pm
My question is that why poor people are suffered by fighting of two countries . The government of India and Pakistan don't feel to the suffering of the people by this fighting What they want to achieve . The both countries should create friendly , brotherhood among the people of both nations . In our countries there are poverty ,hunger, unemployment , lack of Education Health , Housing problem The duty of both countries is to concentrate to solve the problem of the people , not to fight . The country is spoiled by sentimental talk Kashmir is our and Kashmir is our This sentiment can't give us food and to remove the poverty .. Whatever we have energy , resources to use for the development of the people ____Subodh Sinha
Oct 10, 2014 08:42pm
We are of same descent. Right from vedic period the people are being taxed of minimum 12 per cent regardless of type of Government. Ultimately common man is the victim. Please dont kill Him. Let Him live. DONT FIRE.
Oct 10, 2014 10:36pm
Kudos to dawn for ceasefire , joking , but where has indian media shown bitterness and why ? We indians have really exhausted in justifying pak actions and immediately upon one more pseudo handshake nd we forget all injuries to sing hussaanah
Oct 11, 2014 12:30am
Good balanced journalism from the fourth estate across the border. I wish times now and that punk Goswami reads it
Oct 11, 2014 12:59pm
It's unbiased reporting,congratulation for this.We don't know what happened on the ground and its very difficult to actually get the info.Whoever has first fired had not done a good thing but as well we should look at what was by the responder,this certainly should be curtailed.I would really propose a solution to the head of both the nation as when the incidence of first firing occurs the suffering country should immediately take to the highest level to put a check and if the highest authority is unable to curtail then there is no other option left for the suffering country to protect its country and then only the firing should start on the both side. But there should be penalty also imposed on the first country and that need to be agreed between both these nation.Such ceasefire violation would certainly incur huge cost on both the countries.One is in the present form like of bullets and other ammunition and other in form of anticipation of such occurrence in the future. Both the countries should also need to build a forum which should have enough of powers to take decision against the ceasefire violaters of their country. Both the countries need to remember the words of Father of the nation of India,Mahatma Gandhi,an eye for an eye make the world blind.It is not in interest of both these countries as they need to buy ammunition and third country will only be benefitted.The benefiting country from such purchases would really not want peace in this region as it would impact their economy.Its upto the government of both these nation to take a call on whom they want to benefit, to their people or to the people of other country.
Oct 11, 2014 03:17pm
Full marks to Dawn for showing the courage to show both sides of the pictures. Hope we all can open our eyes.
Oct 12, 2014 10:14am
great news paper . unbiased and true . god bless u
Oct 12, 2014 11:07pm
Oct 13, 2014 06:01am
Can't believe one can read such an impartial and a rational newspaper in Pak. Dawn deserves a big round of applaud. The facts and the conclusions shown are unanimously correct and needs a high level of courage in Pak's locality.
Oct 13, 2014 10:53am
Kudos to dawn. Unbiased journalism is the fresh air that breathes new life and new thinking in the citizenry. My congratulations to the author and the editorial staff.
Oct 13, 2014 10:05pm
@Unshackle Pakistan good
Oct 13, 2014 10:05pm
@Unshackle Pakistan good
Oct 13, 2014 10:41pm
Indian violation of LOC is direct result of weak leadership of Nawaz Shareef. India does not understand voice of peace. China gave India the beating of their life. Despite frequent violation of border India don't dare to respond. India keep on interfering in Blochistan and Pakistan turned their back on Kasmir support. Prime Minister Nawaz Shareef and his brother Shebaz Shareef just interested in promoting their own business and failed to build political consensus among various political parties. Pakistan needs a strong leadership to deal affectively with India. The deteriorating of law and order situation within Pakistan encouraging external forces to intervene. Time to say audio to Shareef brothers.
Oct 14, 2014 10:54pm
Good Journalism,Both sides should understand "NAFRAT KO SIRF PYAR MAR SAKTA HAI"
Oct 15, 2014 03:38am
Among all pakistani newspapers, Dawn probably is more unbiased. enjoyed reading about Shahbaz Qalandar. and pictures were very nice. I wish both countries will realise the importance of peace. Only a dream I guess as long Alqaida and ISIS and Talibans are around.
Oct 15, 2014 11:06am
@Zee Dont read TOI. It is a hopeless news paper. I still agree that none of the Indian news papers have un-biased civilian report.