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LAHORE: General Secretary of Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Liaquat Baloch on Monday said the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) had issued a political press release which was unbecoming of a military force, DawnNews reported.
Speaking to media representatives after a meeting of the party’s Majlis-i-Shura (Advisory Council), Baloch said the army had no right to interfere in matters of politics.
On Sunday, JI chief Syed Munawar Hasan’s recent controversial statements of giving the certificate of martyrdom to Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Hakeemullah Mehsud and deriding military personnel who have rendered sacrifices in the war against terrorists, drew strong ire of the army which asked the JI chief to tender an unconditional apology.
Earlier today, the JI chief said he was standing by his statement in which he termed Mehsud a ‘martyr’, as his party’s Majlis-i-Shura (Advisory Council) met today to discuss the issues of local body elections, drone attacks and the controversy caused by the ‘martyr’ remark.
During the Majlis-i-Shura meeting, Baloch said the country would have to get out of the drone war in order to establish sustainable peace.
Speaking to DawnNews prior to the meeting, Baloch had said that Hasan did not attack the reputation of the army therefore no questions should be aimed at his statements.
He further said that martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by “none other than Allah”.
On Nov 1, Hakimullah Mehsud, chief of the TTP, was killed in a US drone strike in the North Waziristan tribal region and was labelled by Fazlur Rehman and Munawar Hasan — the chiefs of Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam - Fazl and JI — a ‘martyr’.
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Nov 11, 2013 02:38pm
Munawar Hussain cannot take back his words as that might upset TTP and he can be killed. Army after all is not going to imprison him or kill him
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Nov 11, 2013 02:48pm
Complete hypocrisy. Not even ashamed of all their doing still talking tall. The calamities that these Mullahs has brought on us are never ending.
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Nov 11, 2013 02:42pm
Pakistan takes fund to support NATO in Afghanistan. Isn't it true?
The army helps entire operation including drones, isn't it true?
How come soldiers be maryr for supporting NATO. They belong to them.
I don't know about Taliban but for sure Pakistani soldiers are not as long as they are supporting Nato forces.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:05pm
The Mullah should read the Book of Allah (Quran) to comprehend the definition of Martyrdom.
Mullah Fazlur Rahman should do the same. Americans don't kill dogs in an inhumane ways as militant Taliban's target peace loving people. They cherish them as pets and crime detectors As such no dog could achieve the martyrdom as comprehended by the Mullah
Mullah is defined as a learned person. The lot of them have no knowledge of Quran (book of Allah)
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Nov 11, 2013 02:59pm
Do Not Humiliate our "Shaheed" !
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Nov 11, 2013 03:23pm
The entire leadership of JI should apologize to the nation.
The terrorists who kill & maim innocent Pakistanis and the members of Armed Forces of Pakistan can never be called "Shaheed".
The whole nation stands by the Armed Forces of Pakistan.
I request the sensible members of JI to come out and denounce their leadership for making malicious statements one after another.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:34pm
Everybody in his chair,a chair for everybody.Problems always arise where people do not occupy their defined position.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:35pm
The mulla military nexus is history. The JI Shora instead of defending the statement from their chief are attacking......good strategy.....but trust me the vote bank will decrease to 0.2% from 2%. So now one can undestand why it is so difficult to fight this terror war. Parties like JI, JUP and PTI are political representatives of TTP in the masses.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:48pm
'General Secretary of Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Liaquat Baloch on Monday said the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) had issued a political press release which was unbecoming of a military force, DawnNews reported. '
I just have one thing to say here... 'Khiyaani Billi Khamba Nochay'
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Nov 11, 2013 03:44pm
These so called learned Mullahs have destroyed the unity of Pakistan and now these fatwas against the Army is un-called for.
May Allah Grant them some wisdom
Unfortunately Nawaz Sharif is a weak ruler and has no sympathy with the masses.
Let these Mullahs not destroy our fatherland
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Nov 11, 2013 03:48pm
What a non-sense statement. Military has all the right to defend its soldiers who have give their life for the country. Likewise one can say that a political party should not interfere in religious affairs but this party considers itself owner of the religion. it supported a military dictator who was supporting the American but this party wanted to get into the government since they have never been able to win elections.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:57pm
JI needs no enemy. Their chief is enough to their certain political death.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:58pm
What about Maulana Shb dragging religion into politics..
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Nov 11, 2013 03:59pm
Hehehe
Martyrdom is a political issue........
Thank you JI for increasing our KNOWLEDGE
On top of it JI says:
...martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by
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Nov 11, 2013 03:59pm
How can a killer of innocent people be declared as martyred?
If this practice continued, then all criminals would be declared as martyrs after their encounter with law enforcement agency or battle with their cronies.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:03pm
Mullah should also not interfere in politics, specially JI chief. Army should play its role regarding its deteriorating image in this Hakeem ullah mehsood episode. The statements by these mullahs have confused a great number of people.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:18pm
Just as Mr. Munawar a simple question. The ARMY and civilians killed by those Terrorist are Martyr. If yes then how come a Martyr is killing another Martyr and if no, then he needs to openly present himself as a friend of Taliban and enemy of our state.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:11pm
I had lot of respect for JI in the days prior to Qazi Hussain's leadership. Since then I'm not a big fan of this party and think it has negative role in Pakistan's society , both at religious and political front. I want a political death of this party now and there in no better person to do the job other than Munawwar Hasan. Let him lead the party for little longer and whatever remaining educated and patriotic people, and there were a huge numbers at one time, will leave the party. I pray for long life and health for Munawwar Hasan, to complete the job.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:36pm
It is no surprise to see the reports coming from the JI and other like minded originations that the constitution of Pakistan, even after serious butchering job by the zia- ul- Haque, is not acceptable to them.
I would never sign up for Army rule but never denigrade the unquestionably brave soldiers of Pakistan. They are the personification of our notion's best.
All those who want to see the killers of our soldier's and our fellow citizens applauded and glorified have a different agenda like they had when they sided with the Congress in the movement for Pakistan.
People like those mentioned abovementioned in the report are the last, who I would choose to represent Islam or Pakistan.They are not worthy , otherwise the people of Pakistan would have put them in power. They always get to positions of influe nce through back doors.
Shafiq
Shafiq
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Nov 11, 2013 04:36pm
Moron, after decades of fighting these so called torch bearers of Islam decide who is a martyr and who is not. This is not the intellect which Prophet P.B.U.H told his people to show. I am ashamed of these sort of people who speak without brains.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:40pm
He further said that martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by
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Nov 11, 2013 04:41pm
It is a great loss to our faith, Jamat e Islami must be banned as their stance is totally not acceptable. our soldiers are our heroes and we have firm belief that they are martyr and will go to paradise! where as people who were involved in killing of innocent are not praised one. no one can compare a true solder with a terrorist...
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Nov 11, 2013 04:41pm
Dear Sir
Can Jamaat I Islami and Syed Munawar Hassan also confirm the status of all shaeeds of Pakistan, including Shaheed Motarama Benazir Bhutto the champion of democracy in Pakistan, who was murdered by terrorist being glorified by Jamaat I Islami stalwarts.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:43pm
the JI leadership should be arrested and charged with aiding and providing comfort to the enemy. They have always opposed the creation of Pakistan. Pakistan needs to remind them of their place.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:49pm
I have some respect for JI but now they stand in line with TTP & other terrorists not because they criticized PAK Army but they glorified, endorsed & propagated the agenda of terrorists & killers of thousands innocents.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:18pm
The contradiction in what these people say kills me! On the one hand the JI chief claims Hakimullah to be a martyr, let's not forget the same Hakimullah who has killed hundreds of innocent Pakistanis. Then he goes on to stand by his comments after their "Majlis-i-Shura"
Out of the same "Majlis-i-Shura" Liaquat Baloch the General Secretary of JI comes out and announces 'that martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by
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Nov 11, 2013 05:16pm
With these sort of people around, calling a criminal and a murderer a 'martyr', army has every right to issue a statement that sets the things right!
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Nov 11, 2013 05:35pm
" If martyrdom was a dignified rank which can only be conferred by none other than Allah swt ", as mr Baluch says....then how could mr hasan of JI conferred " martyrdom " on mr hakimullah ? Is this not a contradictory statement ? confused mullahs.....fooling the masses as usual.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:58pm
Glad to see he has dug himself a hole.
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Nov 11, 2013 06:05pm
JI should be banned in Pakistan and Munawar Hassan should be thrown in the prison for 30 years at least
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Nov 11, 2013 06:12pm
It is now clear that JI is doing politics on the dead bodies
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Nov 11, 2013 06:19pm
This man's statement calls in to question his & his party's loyalty. In my opinion this party's root lay against Pakistan when country got its independent & it is therefore should be banned from politics.
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Nov 11, 2013 06:21pm
Declaring Killers and terrorists Martyr is no politics, JI chief's statement is insulting and humiliating for the families of Pak soldiers and common people who have been killed by gang of ruthless murderers.
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Nov 11, 2013 06:54pm
JI should move it's headoffice from Mansora to Miranshah. They should not be allowed to operate in the country anymore.
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Nov 11, 2013 07:22pm
Military has the right to speak up about its fallen soldiers. JI is committing treason by siding with enemies and murderers of Pakistani people and also of foreign hikers who were guests in Pakistan.
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Nov 11, 2013 07:21pm
It is only very seldom that J.I. leaders say something I find myself agreeing with. But I agree with them this one time that Pakistan's military has no business in politics and ISPR must not take on itself the authority to determine the parameters of who can be called a shaheed. The military is not The State and should not behave like one, even though it has always tried to do so. It is only a tiny part of the state but unfortunately has already encroached more space in body politic than it deserves. This statement by the ISPR, at a time when change of guard is taking place in the army, is actually a brazen effort to undermine the power of the elected government and to demonstrate that military is the real power in Pakistan. Syed Munawwar Hussan and J.I. must stand up to the bullying of the military and every fair minded Pakistani, religious or secular, should support them to protect and safeguard the democracy and freedom of speech in Pakistan. Who has given the right to ISPR to issue statements to demand apologies from Pakistani politicians for saying something the military does not like?
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Nov 11, 2013 07:40pm
These religious parties have to be banned from politics and should be sidelined in all affairs if this country. They have brought nothing but divisions and sectarianism among the people of Pakistan. Its time to get rid of the mullah culture and clean up the confusion they instill in the gullible public.
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Nov 11, 2013 08:18pm
DO we have ISPR political wing to give such a statement.
This is only in Pakistan where every one poke his nose any where.
Dear the personal of ISPR keep to your job only and remember that you are paid by the tax payers money stop.
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Nov 11, 2013 08:18pm
This is no business of ISPR to comment on any political statement or ask for the apology from the chief of a political party.
This is in the best interest of Pakistan that every should take of his own business. ----------
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Nov 11, 2013 08:22pm
the mullas have nothing to do with the affairs of the state.stay home or in your worship place
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Nov 11, 2013 08:36pm
I am proud of Liaquat Baloch, at least is standing by his word. I wish JI will take a stand and openly support Taliban instead of fearing public rejection. Be bold and fear no one but Allah. WE TRULY SUPPORT TALIBAN!
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Nov 11, 2013 08:30pm
HAHAHA. He said that martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by
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Nov 11, 2013 09:05pm
'Mischief thou art afoot.Take what course thou wilt.'
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Nov 11, 2013 09:21pm
Well i hope all these "political mullahs" get "martyred" soon by drones. "khas kam, jahan pak"
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Nov 11, 2013 09:44pm
ISPR press release is not political. Army is rightfully claiming back the respect and honour of those who gave their lifes for the country. In democratic countries too, leaders and public always honour their martyrs. Religous leader making such an unwanted statement not only hurt the popular feeling but open a new door of doubts about religiion and national security. Best recourse for JI to appologies and move forward
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Nov 11, 2013 09:48pm
Army shouldn't be in politics, just like mullahs shouldn't be in politics.
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Nov 11, 2013 09:57pm
Hand them over to bangladesh
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Nov 11, 2013 09:55pm
JI has been the black mark on Pakistan & Bangladesh (East Pakistan) politics. A very thin line differentiates them from Taliban. Should they be called white collared Taliban?
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Nov 11, 2013 10:43pm
Calling this savage a martyr is an insult to humanity. Wake up Pakistan and eliminate this "Thakedars" of Islam. Taliban, LeT, and LJ along with JI and JUI should be banned and eliminated along with other extremist.
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Nov 11, 2013 10:44pm
Munawar Hassan or Mulannna F. has no power to decide who is "Martyr" and who is not. It's Allah Almighty who has to decide it.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:15pm
@ishrat salim:
The first thought that came to my mind as well. I hope that Mr. Baloch has not started treating JI chief as God.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:08pm
JI should be banned from politics till they apologize the nation.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:21pm
@Agha Asad Raza:
Well, two wrongs can not make one right. I fully agree with you that Hakeemullah Mehsud cann not be called a martyr, considering the atrocities he committed. However, that fact does not entitle the army to issue political statements and/or get involved in political controversies. Don't you think that Pakistan has suffered enough already.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:22pm
Those who fight and lay down their lives for Pakistan are martyrs. Pakistan Army has joined American war on terror. Pakistani soldiers who die fighting American war are surely not martyrs by any definition.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:31pm
@SHAFIQ KHAN:
Those who fight and lay down their lives for Pakistan are martyrs. Pakistan Army has joined American war on terror. Pakistani soldiers who die fighting American war are surely not martyrs by any definition.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:32pm
@Arshad:
Those who fight and lay down their lives for Pakistan are martyrs. Pakistan Army has joined American war on terror. Pakistani soldiers who die fighting American war are surely not martyrs by any definition.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:36pm
Now everyone knows who is who; if terrorism is allowed in the country, then other political wings of other militant groups should be allowed to support their wings. or Ban Jamat-e-Islami and JUI or whoever support killers of innocent Pakistani and Pakistan Army personnel. If Policy makers will not take a logical decision now it will be too late to control the terrorist activities in the country.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:31pm
people of pakistan should now know what this jammat so called islami is stand for.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:33pm
munawar should not b called moulana anymore as it is a respectable post and charged with treason
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Nov 11, 2013 11:50pm
the highest court of pakistan should charge the leaders of JI in anti terrorist court for abiding and glorifying the terrorism.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:57pm
One Mullah says even 'Dog' is Martyr if killed by US and the other Mullah says 'Terrorist' who has killed thousands of innocent Muslims is Martyr. What kind of Mullahs are these? I would say let's load them all on a boat and ....
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Nov 12, 2013 12:10am
There is no role of religion in politics. I am glad that Bangladesh has learned the lesson and moving in the right direction. I wish we can learn that lesson soon to avoid our collective demise.
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Nov 12, 2013 12:31am
I would say Army and Mullah both shouldn't interfere in politics?
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Nov 12, 2013 01:12am
Jamat e Islami never had problems taking money from the ISI/Army to form IJI against PPP. now its a problem.
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Nov 12, 2013 01:58am
@vigilant:
criticizing the Army as an institution would not be a problem, but JI has nullified all the sacrifices of our valiant forces and all those innocent people who are the victims of these terrorist organisation...this is very sad, who are they to confer shahadat on people ?
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Nov 12, 2013 02:41am
Says the guy who supported Musharraf and whose party supported Zia-ul-Haq while he was an active member and I am sure at that time he supported Zia too.
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Nov 12, 2013 02:59am
@Syed:
This is democracy. He can say what he think, you can write what you think. You do not like him, choose the party you like and vote next time.
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Nov 12, 2013 04:11am
I have one statement and 2 questions for the Army.
1) Stay out of politics- You have harmed the country more than any other institution
2) You are a million strong. ISI has 10, 000 agents and is the largest intelligence agency in the world. Are you so inept that you cannot identify and capture the few hundred leaders of the militants, mullahs etc and put them behind bars for life.
3) AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL. Why not a single attempt has been made to down the incoming drones with all the ammunition and Air Force at hand. Seems to me you all are now businessmen, running LNG stations and god knows what else, that you have gone soft in the head and fat in the belly.
Half of one dozen and six of the other. The militants harm the people with illegal guns, the Army throughout our history has harmed the nation with legal guns. You tell me who is worse.
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Nov 12, 2013 04:22am
Let me ask you this Mr. Munawar Hassan and JI: You said that who ever takes part in the this war against TTP and dies is not deemed to be a martyr. Considering TTP does not accept the constitution of Pakistan or any laws then JI including Munawar Hassan should also be abetting in this war since they are part of the current Govt too, right? Would you still call TTP folks martyrs if they kill someone from JI?
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Nov 12, 2013 04:15am
Where is Imran Khan? Shouldn't PTI say something about this too since JI is their partner in KPK.
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Nov 12, 2013 04:16am
Where is Imran Khan? Shouldn't PTI say something about this too since JI is their partner in KPK.
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Nov 12, 2013 04:17am
@aamir:
Do you have proof of what you are talking about? Army does not take any fund and does not support Nato. If they would have supported nato then that strike of nato would not have killed our army officers and soldiers. Think before you accuse someone.
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Nov 12, 2013 06:15am
@Goga Nalaik:
Don't do this,they will think that they are very important.Who cares what they say.Why we are giving them so importance.I think it's a political move by army to make them popular party,who is taking a stand against army.Who calls it a party.Its a small group of opportunist Mullahs with no standing in people.Its a nuisance,and has always been used by army.But most unpopular in people.They are again trying to give it importance,and show that it's THE PARTY OF FUTURE.
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Nov 12, 2013 06:49am
True color of democracy. Everyone have right to express himself . People have choice to accept or reject there point of view. That is why JI never won in elections and this shows most of Pakistani voters are sensible.
JI and Imran PTI learn one more lesson if anything goes yours agenda don't go to street and don't burn the Pakistan , consider as a part of democratic system.
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Nov 12, 2013 09:04am
mullahs should not interfere with affairs of state
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Nov 12, 2013 08:56am
@Goga Nalaik:
well said
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Nov 13, 2013 12:38am
Mullahs are playing politics on dead bodies!
Army should throw JI chief in Mach jail for atleast 30 years for insulting Martyrs who lost their lives in securing their motherland.
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Nov 13, 2013 01:05am
@tariq:
excellent example of bangladesh.no religious party or leader allowed in politics as per there contitution
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Nov 13, 2013 03:02am
Pakistan should do itself a favor and prosecute these traitors (JI leaders) and other religion based party leaders like in Bangladesh. Turkey did it during Ataturk's rule. Egypt is starting to clean up house too.
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Nov 13, 2013 03:02am
few questions for clarification 1.bhutto shaheed 2.army general zia-ul-haq shaheed 3.bugti shaheed 4. army officers killed in fight with bugti,shaheed 5.taliban in afghanistan killed by american shaheed 6.women and children killed by pakistan army gunships shaheed 7.people killed in collateral damage by drone attack shaheed 8. army men at salala shaheed 9.villagers at pakistan border killed by india shaheed 10.kashmiris shaheed 11.shia shaheed 12. sunni shaheed 13 christian died in attack on church shaheed 14. BLA fighters shaheed 15.muqti bahni killed by pak army in east pakistan shaheed 16.people killed in political rally in pakistan shaheed. this nation is indulged in a futile discussion,only Allah knows who is shaheed so everybody stay quite!
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Nov 13, 2013 04:40am
Religious fanatics are people who believe in some mythical books written in history by some magnificent writers,these people are same as a kid who believes in all the character of story told by grandma.
They just need to grow up.
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Nov 13, 2013 06:40am
@Raja:
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Nov 13, 2013 04:58pm
in fact the 'mullaha's' are the confused people in the pakistani society because they have been rejected by the mass majority of people of pakistan since 1947 - only zia-ul-haq lifted them in 1980s
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Nov 13, 2013 08:30pm
"He further said that martyrdom was a dignified rank which could only be conferred by
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Nov 13, 2013 08:26pm
JI was always against partition. Send all JI followers back to Bihar.
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Nov 13, 2013 11:41pm
Killing innocent human beings is a great sin and prohibited in Quran. Anyone who condones terrorists and sympathizes with them should be treated as terrorists sympathizer and jailed so they are unable to mislead the masses. Imam Kabaa has clearly stated that terrorists have no place in Islam i.e they are Kafirs and followers of Shaitan.
All of us should judge based on the teachings of Quran & Sunnah not based on what Jamiyat-e-Islami says or what Taliban say.
A positive change in this world can only be brought by kindness, speaking the truth and by being honest. Only then, your slogans of Islam and Muslim will benefit you and others in this life and hereafter. May Allah give Muslim ummah the willingness to understand and practice Islam with sincerity. Ameen
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Nov 13, 2013 11:35pm
@Amir:
Get over it!
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