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How 26/11 changed us


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“I still recall the unfortunate day. The entire country was revving up for a cricket series between England and India. Nobody could have prepared for how drastically their lives were about to change, forever,”said Aarika Sinha who hails from Mumbai and was visiting her grandparents in India during November of 2008.

The catastrophe which was aptly described as the 9/11 of India by Pakistan’s former minister of foreign affairs, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, altered the lives of many Indians. Many believe that the synchronised audacious attacks — that paralysed the financial hub of India — changed the lifestyles and behavior of many if not all.

“I lost one of my dearest friends in the 2008 Mumbai attacks. He was waiting for the train at Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST). The attackers fired a bullet that tore through his neck. If you ask me whether the execution of Kasab has healed all the wounds then I would certainly say no. More than a hundred Indians lost their lives without any reason whatsoever because of fundamentalists who believe that our mere existence is against the principles of their religious and national ideology. They killed indiscriminately without any mercy or empathy towards the inevitable misery faced by the families and friends left behind,” a Mumbaikar recounted his memories of the attacks on condition of anonymity.

The tragic incidents that unfolded on 26/11 claimed the lives of husbands, wives, children and parents. Socially and politically it affected the already tense relationship between many Indians and Pakistanis who were left to bear the repercussions and carry the resentments of the atrocious attacks.

“I have always been an optimist and believe in peaceful coexistence. Since I live in the United States I get the opportunity to meet people from different religious backgrounds, cultures and traditions. I have many friends who are originally from Pakistan, especially Karachi, and a part of me shattered when it was established that many attackers were from Pakistan. A part of me became cynical. I started questioning whether the friendliness of the Pakistanis I know is genuine or are they hiding behind this façade of camaraderie with Indians just because we live outside India and Pakistan. The incident actually estranged my relation with Pakistanis although none of what happened was their fault. In retrospect, if I had to admit whether I blame Pakistanis for the deadly attacks I would have to say no but I do blame the security regime and the state for their involvement and failure to protect innocent Indian lives,” Sinha added.

Although, I know for a fact that a major chunk of Pakistanis do not intend any harm to Indians, I was still appalled to find that Pakistanis were behind the attacks — an attack which paralysed Mumbai for 60 hours. I truly felt ashamed, knowing that a group of my fellow countrymen were responsible for an act of such massive destruction with complete disregard to precious human lives. Never had I felt such emotions of disgust and embarrassment. Primarily because some of the militants hailed from Pakistan, however, I must assure you that they did not represent the sentiments of true Pakistanis who bear no ill-will against Indians, Americans or innocent citizens of any other country.

Although every killing is equally deplorable and heart wrenching, the brutal murder of the Jewish couple that owned the Chabad or Nariman House, was especially painful. The infant son of the couple, two years of age, survived the ordeal but was left an orphan. I will never be able to forget the picture of his tear smeared face on the day of his parents’ funeral — screaming “Ima, Ima” meaning “Mama, Mama” in Hebrew — as long as I live.

Ajmal Kasab — the only surviving attacker — was executed in India last week. For many, his execution brought closure, whereas for some his “speedy” trial and rejection for clemency raised questions about the Indian judiciary.

On the other side of the spectrum, organisations which indoctrinate young minds took his execution as a reason for launching attacks in retaliation. Lashkar-e-Taiba — a banned militant outfit alleged for perpetrating the dastardly attacks — recently issued a statement claiming that Kasab will be remembered as a hero and “will inspire more attacks”. At the same time Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) was shocked at his execution and “vowed to avenge his death” by targeting Indians.

It is a fact that militant factions recruit and brainwash impressionable minds and then use them as pawns to kill innocent people. Most people are shown golden dreams of being granted a palatial mansion in heaven for persecuting Indians, Jews, Christians, Muslim minorities and other non-Muslims. What remains unfathomable is how can manslaughter of innocent men, women and children help anyone to achieve a heights of piety? God created life to be appreciated. Most of us know that such fundamentalist groups only serve one God called “money and power” and I truly feel sorry for the youth that falls for their devious traps as they hail from poor backgrounds and do not have enough awareness.

Today marks the 4th anniversary of the deadly Mumbai attacks and although nothing I say or do would be able to placate the survivors or compensate the loss of innocent blood, I would still like to take this as an opportunity to apologise to the relatives and families of all the Indians, Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Israelis and other victims who lost their lives in this tragic act of terrorism.

I hope that nothing of the sort ever happens again and pray that we all learn to value human lives. I yearn to see a day in which religions are taken as a basis for embracing unity, humanity and treasuring life. Our only chance of survival as a human race lies in living and letting live.


Faiza Mirza
The writer is a Reporter at

The views expressed by this writer and commenters below do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

Comments (311) Closed

surya Nov 26, 2012 12:36pm
I hope this article, like the others you write, touches the hearts of any extreme right wing individuals who have been blinded by hate from both countries. It addresses the right points, and ends in a poignant manner relating to a sense of humanity that we must all possess in order to move forward. Through thousands of years of history, we were one people, one race and just 60 years of separation has unfortunately brought about so much animosity that we have events like 26/11. To combat that, we continue to need writers like yourself who propagate peace, and dispel the myths that have been reasons for hate. Organised religion has been made as a political tool by many, and only when each of us understands that faith in God is only a very individual matter, we can minimise the number of incidences like 26/11.
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 01:18pm
First of all let me make my stance clear on this mindless killing of innocent lives or human lives in general. It needs and should be condemned at the highest level. And coming to the above point that nobody can understand the traumatic and painful experience that the Mumbaikars have gone through because of 26/11. I solemnly pray for the departed souls. But my question to my native indians is where is this sympathy when it comes to killing innocent people , children and infants in Srinagar, Kashmir? Where are all these people who chant about the killings of people in Mumbai when it comes to discuss the same about people killed in Kashmir? Just for the record, more than 200 people got killed in the summer of 2010 in kashmir with the between the age group of 7 and 25. We have been having these 26/11 for the last 20 years and i have never seen any Indian highlighting this or have seen any Kashmiri anti Hindu because of it. Why these double standards? As goes the old saying
John Vicks Nov 27, 2012 01:36pm
Mate, every action has a reaction which may or may not be equal !!
sdsd Nov 26, 2012 01:18pm
u r a typical paki. doubting indian judicial system. it was a priority case and rarest of the rare.
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 02:13pm
@Kashmiri, Unfortunately our liberal and knowledgeable Indians here are suffering from selective deafness and blindness.. They can only feel the emotions and hurt of HINDUS than of all people especially we Kashmiris..
rahul Nov 26, 2012 11:51am
whatever you have written is what any human being who has a basic degree of humanity will feel and write...sadly this itself has become rare in a country hypnotized by religious supremacy and hatred...those who died will take rebirth and come back but those who live in hate are breathing but are dead inside...even here the victims who are dead are better off...
Rakesh Nov 27, 2012 07:00am
She certainly supports the "good" in your country...else why would she write such articles despite the risks of being unpopular amongst her own country men and women? She's advocating a more humane society in's a pity that you see her as a threat to Pakistan! Wishing you and your country all the very best. May you find peace soon! :-) :-) :-)
Kashmiri Nov 26, 2012 03:32pm
@P Shailendra . That is what I am saying to you. Whether it is Kashmiri Pundit, Kashmiri muslim, Mumbaiker, Palestinean, Christean , Jew or any other person.. everyones life is importnat. You Indian brother know the importnat of life after 26/11 and there is hue and cry in Media what about Kashmiri muslims who have lost their one generation in 20 years. I am saying you have give reason/ration why one form of killing is justified and another is seen attack against innocents. You have remove this sort double standards in the society. Tell everyone knows Modi is biggest terrorist who killed innocent muslims during Gujrat riots even Sepreme court of India knows. Have you ever tried this barbaric man, but instead you project him as PM of India. Can you imagine such things happen in so civilized societies.
India Nov 26, 2012 01:19pm
Faiza, wonderful way to express the truthfulness of Pakistanis' feelings...A writer like you can definately bring change in society..However I sincerely hope that such articles need to get in publish in local languages so that it should touch more and more hearts rather than of the people who only understand English and having priveldge to be being on net......!!!
Atif Nov 26, 2012 06:15pm
@Kashmiri.. Kis ko keh rahe ho bhai.. Yeh Kabhi ghalat naheen hote. ho hi naheen sakte. :)
Bharat Nov 26, 2012 12:19pm
Your apology is a reflection of the humane in you, Faiza. You will never know exactly how 26/11 changed us. I, who had until then, not catered in any manner to any anti-Muslim thought, began to wonder. Today I have studied the life of Mohammed and know now that the attack on Mumbai is in keeping with his teachings, actions and preachings. This makes my very existence anti-Islam, by Islam's definition. It was 26/11 which made me look deeper into the reasons for the continuation of violence in Islam.
Atif Nov 26, 2012 02:15pm
"And please keep in mind that kashmir is our internal issue you don
Rashid Sultan Nov 26, 2012 02:13pm
So young Muslims lot is better & happier in Muslim ruled states such as Syria, Egypt, etc, is it?
Silajit Nov 27, 2012 04:08pm
Pakistan has not moved a finger against the LeT bosses (or allowed India access to them or even their voiceprints - which is why India did not allow access to the 26/11 witnesses.) This foot dragging is done by Pakistani politicians, the judiciary that lets them go, the police force that will not stack up evidence to keep them locked up, by the establishment - ALL in the name of the "aawaam" that they are claiming to protect. The author is part of the "aawaam" and she can see through the charade. Hence the apology. And before you say Samjhauta Express, you should know that India has shut down the low life's who did that.
India Nov 26, 2012 01:06pm
By the way, not wishing well for "most pakistanis" is not good. You should try to introspect why you hate someone without any reasons.
V. C. Bhutani Nov 26, 2012 01:06pm
Nobly said, Madam. I couldn
mohan Nov 26, 2012 03:59pm
After 26/11 attacks..India waked up.How to handle the terrorists.during 2008-12 not much human loses in India. But in pakistan more than 6,000 were killed by terrorists.So my kind advise to editor is write a story about how pakistan people killed by terrorists day by day
wasim Nov 26, 2012 08:03pm
To Junaid Hashmat, I am wasim akram, born & raised in in shrinagar, jammu Kashmir, India & Now in US. I real feel pity on a person like you who comment on Kashmir without knowing the real picture of it. 26/11 or any terrorist attack in any part of the world & killing innocent people is very very bad & god (nature) never forgive for that. I see many pakistanis have wrong concept about kashmir & India. My dear friend let me tell you all the information you have is not all right, because from the begining pak. govt is giving wrong info. on kashmir. India & Pakistan, both got independence on same day, they both got the same indian people (hindu,muslim,sikh,christians) who jointly fought against British Rule & both got the same British Army, as army of India & Pakistan. Now see today, where India is standing & where pakistan is standing. Though there are corruption & other similiar issues in both the contries, but Inspite of all that India is shining & Pakitan is failed state. Because from the begining India was looking towards progress & pakistan was looking only "kashmir & war against India" If you ask any ordinary kashmiri, whether the Indian occupied kashmir or Pak Occ. Kasmir,, every kashimiri will say they want peace & only peace, it doesn't matter for a common man to be in india or pakistan or seprate nation as Kasmir. Every common man needs Roti, Kapda & Makan & also a secured life for his family. Now due to pak. supported terrorism (mujahiddins), there is so much of blood shed from 1989, kashmir economy, tourism, industy every things collapsed. School & colleges are closed for 4-6 months, theaters & masjids are bombed. Now to control the situation india has deployed so much of army persons in kashmir. But again Pak. spreads false news that India has 5,00,000 army in Kashmir (may be true) & killing kashmiri people. Why India is keeping army in kashmir that fact is never revealed by pakistan. If you see the terrorists like Kasab, they are very innocent, poor & unemployed, they don't know what is "Jehad" but for the poverty they take arms in hands due to brain washing by Dadhiwalas in Pak. Pak. should stop spreading false agianst india & should learn from india to walk on the path of progrees & leave the path of hatred, terrorism & blaming others for own unsuccess. Pak. should concentrate on economic growth so, that problem of unemployment get solved & bann those dadhiwalals who split venom/poison in their speech & misguide people.
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 11:19pm
Akil Akhtar, swallow your pride! It all about right and wrong, not about giving false praise.
Vgp Nov 26, 2012 03:18pm
When will you Pakistanis ever learn to accept the truth especially when Kasab himself admitted that he was a Pakistani sent by the Laskar and even identified his parents and home town. Grow up man and learn to face the real world there is much more than only Islam in this world
Derek Nov 27, 2012 01:10am
Aaria Sinha and yourself should be acting naieve to be "SHATTERED" and "APPALLED" to find out pakistanis to be behind this attack. When somebody's religion comes in front of basic human values and the local culture they are born into; these are the expected things to happen. Things seem to be slowly boiling and heading towards a final confrontation when truth alone will triumph, but it will leave a trail of destruction and sorrow which will have to be suffered even by the innocents.
abhinav Nov 27, 2012 05:18am
well said bro
Mandeep Nov 26, 2012 07:21pm
When and where the Supreme court of India let you know that it knows Modi killed innocent people? The Supreme Court appointed independent commission did not find Modi guilty of killing anyone. Those who were found guilty by enquiry have been chargesheeted are on jail and several have been convicted and sent to jail. When it comes to Kashmir, it is you who need to do introspection. Why there were no such killings before 1988-89 ? Because there was no violent jehad or proxywar lauched in Kashmir. Casualities occur as collateral damage while state tries to protect itself. Who doesn't know how Kashmiri youth is brainwashed in mosques and exhorted to rise against India ? In what way Pakistan will offer them a better life than what they have in India ? and Why people like you think that Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri Mulsims only ? If you can not think of Kashmiri Pandits, Budhists and other non-muslim Kashmiris, why should be anyone sympathetic to you ? Also, Mumbai terror attacks have nothing to do with Kashmir.
Krs Nov 26, 2012 06:15pm
If we do not worry about you , you do not like it. For a change we are worrying about you ! You don't like that either ?
Kongposh Nov 26, 2012 07:42pm
Well said.. Mr. Taj..Only a true kashmiri can know this..
Neo Dec 04, 2012 11:05am
hahahaha.. mate you made my day..
Neo Dec 04, 2012 11:08am
truth...;) as in your version right...
Virkaul Nov 30, 2012 04:53pm
Akil, you seem to be in your early twenties. In today's world there are no secrets. Please read KK Aziz's Murder of history.
rahul Nov 29, 2012 07:00pm
dear writer feel like hugging and kissing you for your true feelings.Hope a day would come when people like you bring a revolution and we would be united by bring down the berlin wall.
Zimbo_Indian Nov 29, 2012 03:06pm
I don't think a society can produce terror at such a scale if only 2-3% of it's members are sick minded. If that was really so, then the other 97% would have been able to keep them in control. Look at India. We have our share of Hindu Taliban. But they are not numerous enough to hold India to ransom. Case in point is the arrest of two college girls for writing a comment on facebook which was uncomplimentary to Bal Thackrey and Shiv Sena. The arrest was made under pressure from Shiv Sena group. Within a week three senior policemen (including the SP) and the judge who accepted the case rather than throwing it out immediately have been suspended and the case has been closed. If a similar thing had happened in Pakistan, the girls would either have been rotting in prison or lynched by a mob of momins.
Silajit Nov 27, 2012 04:30am
Impressed by your bravery to write this, Faiza. I do believe that ordinary Pakistanis thought 26/11 was wrong.
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 10:40pm
"I do believe that if you are kind to others sooner or later they will be kind to you, why dont we try this practice now." Hows' that working for you?
akil akhtar Nov 27, 2012 04:56am
terrorist have a religion only when they are muslims. Timothy McVeah otr the one in Norway wa never called a christian terrorist. The western media was even reluctant in calling them a terrorist. Finally they said they were mental.
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:26am
faiza ... kabas's hanging raised questions of indian judiciary because it rejected clemency ?you must be a real fool to even imagine clemency ..INDIA unlike pakistan is not a banana republic ... it has in fact sent shudders in the spine of taliban n Let n its likes and hence they have started barking .... it was indian maturity that it dint launch an attack on pakistan n avoided killing 100s ...but eventually pakistan is paying for it in terms of daily deaths in karachi n .elsewhere in suicide bombings ...pakistan is paying the ultimate price for its behavior
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:37pm
Please take her we need people who love this country not hate it.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:29pm
No one in india asks why Kasab sounded like an indian rather tahn an URDU speaking Pakistani and why his mercy letter to Indian PM was in Hindi.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:33pm
So Mukti bahini cross border terrorism was a fair war in your view. how do you argue with people who have one rule for themselves and another for....Tehy are learning from US and Israel, do as we say not as we do. I think we need to break all ties with the indians until they say sorry for bangladesh which was a thousand times greater tragedy than 26/11.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:35pm
Bangladesh should not be forgotten....
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:36pm
Indian attitude can only come from arrogance as if they think Pakistan is their colony or something...
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 10:30pm
Bhaskar, if the average Pakistanis' blood boils as yours does, maybe you should stop waiting for the government or military to do something about the extremists in your country, and stand up and do something your selves! I don't care if you have to start throwing rocks at these cowards or the extremists, at least you'd be a true patriot! Organize the like minded in your country and force change for the better! You are being bullied. Fight back!
Venkat Nov 27, 2012 04:47am
How many people did Sarabjeet kill?
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:25pm
He killed 10,000 in a war conquering another country you killed 2000 in Gujrat who were your own citizens. US has killed a Million innocent muslims since sep 11.
GoodCop Nov 27, 2012 03:58pm
Dear Kashmiri I am extremely sorry for your loss but couple of things I would like to point out: 1. Among 166 people many were muslims. So hanging Kasab gave them justice too!! Although I know Kasab was just a pawn in this whole "game". 2. Nobody talks about Kashmiri Hindu Pundits when everybody says how Indian army has killed thousands of muslims in Kashmir. Thousands of pundits are killed or had to leave everything behind and flee. What about them? Have you pondered about these facts?
Rakesh Nov 27, 2012 12:51pm
She's given it in the hyperlinks.... :-) :-) :-)
vvd Nov 29, 2012 01:24pm
Unless the Pak Govt spends money on universal education where they are taught authentic history & geography ,& not some fictional happenings ,unless secularism in public life is established ,unless all Pakistanis are treated equally in the eyes of the law,no change for the better can be foreseen.Things are actually going from bad to worse.Hence any change in its outlook towards India appears to be dim.
Raj Dec 04, 2012 04:18pm
That implies Purest Muslim kills Innocent people irrespective of their faith including Muslim if they do not agree with their virson of religion.
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 09:41pm
It should not have been stated in this article.
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 09:36pm
I agree 100%. That is a totally ignorant statement by FAIZA!
Rao Nov 27, 2012 04:52am
Only Zaid Hamid speaks truth...Right Mr. Beg
rekindia Nov 29, 2012 05:13am
You appear to have been brain washed by the anti India propaganda.What you write is contrary to the truth. Always verify the facts from international and neutral media.
AHA Nov 27, 2012 02:28am
Facts. Like the 1965 Indo Pak war started on Sept 6, 1965. It is facts like these that have made Pakistan the great country that it is today.
Vijay Nov 26, 2012 09:36pm
Timur from Central Asia invaded Delhi in 1398. Timur himself recorded the invasions in his memoirs, collectively known as Tuzk-i-Timuri.[21][21][25][27][28] In them, he vividly described the massacre at Delhi: " In a short space of time all the people in the [New Delhi] fort were put to the sword, and in the course of one hour the heads of 10,000 infidels were cut off. The sword of Islam was washed in the blood of the infidels, and all the goods and effects, the treasure and the grain which for many a long year had been stored in the fort became the spoil of my soldiers. They set fire to the houses and reduced them to ashes, and they razed the buildings and the fort to the ground....All these infidel Hindus were slain, their women and children, and their property and goods became the spoil of the victors. I proclaimed throughout the camp that every man who had infidel prisoners should put them to death, and whoever neglected to do so should himself be executed and his property given to the informer. When this order became known to the ghazis of Islam, they drew their swords and put their prisoners to death. One hundred thousand infidels, impious idolaters, were on that day slain. Maulana Nasiruddin Umar, a counselor and man of learning, who, in all his life, had never killed a sparrow, now, in execution of my order, slew with his sword fifteen idolatrous Hindus, who were his captives....on the great day of battle these 100,000 prisoners could not be left with the baggage, and that it would be entirely opposed to the rules of war to set these idolaters and enemies of Islam at other course remained but that of making them all food for the sword."
Joe Nov 26, 2012 09:37pm
Poverty and illiteracy has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism. Case in point: Osama bin Laden, David Headly, Major Tawaffur Rana, Times Square bomber and so on. The only common thread uniting poor uneducated youths like Ajmal Kasab and educated upper middle class terrorists like the Times Square bomber is Islam. You cannot throw the truth under the rug forever.
Ghaznavi Nov 27, 2012 07:05am
Indians conveniently forget that the likes of Surjeet Singh and Sarabjit singhs, who were arrested, put on trial and sentenced, for bomb attacks which have killed scores of innocent Pakistani civilians in Lahore, Karachi, Pindi etc. The blood spilled by Indians by arming, financing and infiltrating Mukti Bahini in East Pakistan resulted in killings of thousands of civilians. Why do Indians cry when they get a taste of their own medicine? The pain and agony of violent death is the same whether it is in Bombay, Srinagar, Dhakka or Karachi. Indian RAW's hand has been behind major activities of subversion and violence in the last 65 years.
Tushar Joshi Nov 27, 2012 07:06am
Sarbajeet Killed 166 peole?
Wicked Makri Nov 27, 2012 07:17am
" for some his
Rao Nov 27, 2012 02:08am
Keep loving Pakistan and hide all its problems under Kashmiri Rugs till it becomes so bad that its existence is at stake.
Khan Nov 27, 2012 02:12am
The same happened with sarbAjeet Singh then why you Indians insist he is innocent?
Sukhbir Nov 27, 2012 02:12am
Writer misses the most glaring fact of 26/11. The act was perpituatedf by NON-GOVERNMENT PLAYERS who ARE PAKISTANIS. KASB is not the LAST, there are, and EVERY GOVERNMENT PLAYER in Pakistan knows who they are. Their identities are known, they live within the Pakistani People who like the author have deliberately closed their Eyes and Ears and their Minds. As long as this willful denial goes on 26/11 s will happen again both in India and as is xlear within Pakistan. I am no sooth sayer but if this continues and other 26/11s or 12s happen again, there will be a mother of all skirmishes between India and Pakistan. (All the others that took place earlier were skirmishes not War).
Brian Nov 27, 2012 12:22am
Mr. Juniad this is the problem with the Pakistanis, brain washed from your childhood, myopic mentality and never have the guts to face reality, remain fanatic forever and as world progresses you regress.
Pman Nov 27, 2012 03:28am
We have every right to insist he is innocent. Did you catch him trying to shoot someone? You on the other hand have every right to execute him. I fail to understand how anyone can defend Kasab.
pidtis Nov 27, 2012 03:30am
Unfortunately people like you use these silly thinks to justify terrorist actions! Look at what is happening in Pakistan. By your logic Pakistan has committed sins that are much worse!!!
AHA Nov 27, 2012 02:17pm
Another Pakistani PhD.
Neo Nov 27, 2012 09:33am
dont thank but act on it.. will be good for you, your people and your country.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:47pm
the feeling is the same on this side since 1971
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:44pm
DAWN is doing a very good service for the people of India...
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:46pm
Who cares what you think. Once you stop being narrow mided and self centred in all your views then maybe we could talk...
Joe Nov 26, 2012 11:44pm
Here is where the religion comes in. India has poorer people than Pakistan. So has Africa. But you do not find African and Indian poor roaming around in foreign countries shooting people on the streets in the name of Islam. Besides, was Osama bin Laden poor? Was David Headley poor? Was the Times Square bomber poor?
kart Nov 26, 2012 09:13pm
well now u know wat happens when u rear snakes as pets...
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:39pm
Finally you admit your own hatred and the reason for this media blitz against Pakistan. 26/11 has given you a good license to kill and vent your own hatred harboured for years. there are many unanswered questions about 26/11 which indians are nto willing to ask fearing the outcome.
Joe Nov 26, 2012 11:40pm
9/11 was not state-controlled. 26/11 was state controlled. Intelligence officers were involved in planning and execution of the plan.
Joe Nov 26, 2012 11:41pm
Who said 30% were Muslims? It is the victims that do not have a religion. The terrorists did have a religion. It is called Islam.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:42pm
Really so you do not know of any kashmiris killed by your own army, says a lot about indian media and its utter bias and brainwashing of indian public.
Indian Nov 27, 2012 03:54am
Then why are you not hanging him? Hang him if you find him guilty. Why the hesitation. We were clear that Kasab was a remorseless killer ( may be brain washed). If you are so sure then go ahead and hang Sarbjeet. Indians dont shelter killers.
Cherian (Melbourne) Nov 29, 2012 11:00am
Dear Sister, Your genuine expression of remorse is greatly appreciated. Let there be no more such incidents.
Jagga Nov 27, 2012 05:39am
I agree with you Mr. Khan...but Sarabjeet was a spy while Kasab was a terrorist...Sarabjeet never killed innocent people.
AHA Nov 26, 2012 09:17pm
But Taliban claim that they are the purest Muslims, and many Muslims agreewith them.
AHA Nov 27, 2012 12:17am
Not only against. We also applauded and celebrated the murder of Salman Taseer. We applaud all act of inhumanity as long as these are done in the name of our religion.
John F Nov 26, 2012 09:08pm
I agree. 99% Pakistanis are bringing a bad name to the remaining 1%
AHA Nov 27, 2012 12:19am
So unfortunate, but so true.
Beg Nov 27, 2012 12:21am
So what is your point.that is history but why taimur wrong doings are considered to be islam related,infact he did things which islam forbade. Taimur was not a Islamic scholar or a prophet. Don't lump two together. Since crimes of Richard cannot be labeled as christian and crimes of Israel are not related to moses or crimes of Sikhs are not due to gurunanak teachings so understand the difference
Imran Nov 28, 2012 08:30pm
All unproven assumptions
Feroz Nov 27, 2012 05:43am
Jawwad, the wants may be material but to get a human being to kill for any reason needs heavy motivation. When the motivation is based on the glory of one religion over others it is called indoctrination. Pakistan finds itself in this bottomless pit because every section of the population indulged itself in wonton, violent and criminal acts --- using the umbrella of religion to glorify those criminal acts.
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:52am
sad to say that urs is still an empty pot ..
asim Nov 27, 2012 01:52am
@Ahmed. it is that simple to learn. You reap what you sow. India got what she is doing with his neighbour whether it is Kashmir,Nepal or Sekam. Things are at the logical ends but India does not seems to have lesson of living with his smaller neighbour. Unfortunately this is a vicious cycle.
kart Nov 26, 2012 09:22pm
Good... I like your spirit... now where was this outpouring when kashmiri pandits were driven out by terrorists??... You sir, are a hypocrite... did the kashmiri muslims do anything to prevent the forced exodus, rapes, murders etc. of their hindu neighbors??.. It is plausible that excesses may have been committed by the army... and it is also plausible that kashmiris assisted and took part in terrorist activities in the valley... whilst i feel sorry for your loss, i feel just as sorry for the many 1000s who had to abandon their homes forever and become refugees in their own country!...
ABDUL Dec 05, 2012 08:29am
I do feel the emotions of indians regarding 26/11, but one thing i don't understand is that everyone of them associate terrisim with Islam, and everybody close his/her eyes when a non muslim killed innocent people, like one who killed 80-90 people in Norway, or Mr. Tomthy in USA. or even an on job indian col. who plan and fired Samjotha Express killed so many inocent muslim passengers. Even writer do not feel tears in her eyes when indian hindoos killed more than 2,000/- muslims in Ahmedabad or killing daily basis at Kashmir. There are lots of orphan babies both in indian held Kashmir or even in Sakim. I am not defending Terrisim or Terrist but one should differentiate Terrisim from Religion. Terrist don't have religion, they are simply Terrist without religion or origion.
Vijay Nov 26, 2012 09:33pm
Modi is not a terrorist although all the muslims are portaiting him that way. The root cause of the Gujarat riots is killing of 65 Hindus by burning train compartment in Godhra, who were returning from the pilgirimage. This has been done by Muslim fundamentalists. Then consequence followed. Dear Kashmiri...ponder why majority of the problems in the world has involvement of Muslims. Something fundamentally wrong. Read the Subcontinet history of the past 1000 years(freely available in internet - eg: and see how the non muslims were treated, you will understand the reason.
Jeet Nov 27, 2012 08:12am
The writer has claimed two statements which most Indians will not agree to. A) A major chunk of Pakistanis do not intend any harm to Indians B) sentiments of true Pakistanis who bear no ill-will against Indians, Americans or innocent citizens of any other country Fact, of the matter is that Pakistan has become a hub of global terrorism and such extremist organizations could not have survived in Pakistan without the tacit support of the population/Govt. and so Pakistanis have to live with the fact the the entire world is pointing fingers at them.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:23pm
Please provide eviedence of the hatred in our text books. BTW if you want to see hatred just look at your own media.
Sikander Abbas Nov 26, 2012 08:18pm
Well said Junaid. But these indians wont agree, they are too much occupied in playing double standards.
Saad ur Rehman Nov 26, 2012 08:31pm
Indians please stop crying , if you believe we are idiots who will destroy ourselves please leave this site and read articles by your indian so called superior media.
John F Nov 26, 2012 08:35pm
I think the negative voters missed your satire. :-)
Mohan Nov 26, 2012 08:35pm
Most of them are killed or thrown out. But that does not count. Its onlly Kashmiri Muslims that count because. If India even gives Kashmir to India to solve issue ,just like Bengali Muslims did not count Pakistani Kashmiri Muslim will be killed by miilions.
AHA Nov 27, 2012 12:06pm
Vijay says:"The root cause of the Gujarat riots is killing of 65 Hindus by burning train compartment in Godhra, who were returning from the pilgirimage. This has been done by Muslim fundamentalists. Then consequence followed." "Then consequence followed". And what exactly was the consequence: Innocent Muslims were killed. Isn
Junaid Hashmat Nov 27, 2012 10:14am
Thanks for feeling pity for me. Brother you are totally getting the wrong picture of the whole comment. Let me make it simple for you Mr.Waseem that it takes two hands to clap. And i havn't advocated the killing of innocents my dear, whoever they may be. You must read my comment once again.
Anup Nov 27, 2012 10:09am
All these are very much your problems too.. in addition to terrorism..
Junaid Hashmat Nov 27, 2012 10:06am
The dislike tells me the story of Indian mind who don't think rationally. Just do like to comment to win the debate. You cannot hide the sun with one finger.
Junaid Hashmat Nov 27, 2012 09:56am
My naive ahmed Kashmir is a disputed area among two states where as this is not the case of Karachi and Balochistan. If so then why India is not letting UN in gujrat.
Sam Nov 26, 2012 07:02pm
buddy she tried to be sarcastic on it.. noticed 'the double inverted commas" .... try to read between the lines.
Jack Nov 26, 2012 06:54pm
You did not add the million Pandits driven away from the Kashmir valley under the hatred of religion. If right to form a country because everyone believes it is their religious right, India will be 300 nations and 30000 states!! You do not eradicate the pandits and then ask for freedom as you think it is your birth right? I do not have to remind you that culture is supremely more powerful than religion. Yesterdays west Pakistan is an example to reflect.
skeptic Nov 26, 2012 06:47pm
then why are you trolling on Pakistani websites. stay home and cry for bal thackrey
Rahmat Nov 26, 2012 11:20pm
Please get a grip on yourself. You are losing it man. There is nothing wrong with introspection, It is the first step in rooting the evil out.
Zimbo_Indian Nov 27, 2012 04:22pm
Count me out. I don't consider Pakistanis as "our people". However, I don't like the idea of erasing Pakistan from the world map because then we will lose people like Fazia and NFP and DAWN.
Beg Nov 27, 2012 12:32am
If things are good. In Kashmir and there is no 500thousand Indian army there then why you don't allow UN and human rights organization to go to Kashmir.what are you hiding
Sikander Abbas Nov 26, 2012 08:03pm
Thats the point. Both India and Pakistan have done so much atrocites than 26/11 or other 11 since 1947. Sad but true.
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:43am
ummm why dont u allow UN n human rights workers to go to baluchistan gilgit baltistan n lyari in Karachi n SWAT ...??? maybe after that then can make a stopover in kashmir ...
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:35am
you are killing your own coreligionists in karachi , gilgit baltistan . swat n hazaras .. u r condemned indeed
AHA Nov 27, 2012 02:06am
Akil - A million Muslims may have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, but a vast majority of them were killed by the militant Muslims. Please stop making a fool of yourself and of other Muslims.
BRR Nov 27, 2012 02:06am
Unlike in Pakistan, agencies do not run the country in India, US etc. Thus people need to educate themselves, support proper policies, make sure their voices are heard, and make sure govt. works for them. Thus individuals have a responsibility to learn, to educate themselves of issues, etc, but you don't see to know about it or care. Besides, I don't need your permission to read dawn online, nor anyone like you.
akil akhtar Nov 27, 2012 05:12am
Really when, do you have any details....
Joe Nov 26, 2012 11:53pm
You are simply proving my point that terrorism has nothing to do with illiteracy and poverty. This is especially true for Islamic terrorism, which is terrorism in the name of Islam, nothing more, nothing less.
Pradip Nov 26, 2012 10:20pm
I do have to state this and I am not sure how many here will agree with me. I would have liked this young man who was party to a lot of damage, to be alive. It would have shown a human face and the guilty young man would have a much worse outcome by re-living his wretched work. Killing him even in the name of justice has deprived India to walk the moral high road.
Ahmed Sultan (Mumbai) Nov 27, 2012 04:26am
You dont know facts then
Pradip Nov 26, 2012 10:16pm
Perhaps I am wrong but I thought people like Arundhati Ray openly SPOKE IN DEFENSE OF KASHMIRIS! I personally think, she is one gutsy person and I am certain many in India do not agree with her at all. However, point is that in a country like India, there is the possibility that an ordinary person can go and speak against the Government - something that is unthinkable in many societies. The plight of Kashmiris (all communities) has been due to this long and unfortunate event of proxy war and collateral damage and I apologize for your personal loss but let us not go beyond that....Muslim young men are treated poorly in most Muslim countries - enough said.
MAS Nov 26, 2012 10:14pm
Dear Honest Man, what is the source of your claim that 95% of Pakistan still believes that 26/11 was as inside job(it must be credible not internet). If you do not, then change your name from "Honest Man" to some thing that represents you better
Dr S Hussain Nov 26, 2012 10:06pm
Faiza, you have a big heart. What a magnanimous gesture from a pakistani journalist totally unconnected with the tragedy. Hope this helps in building the bridges between us. Many thanks.
Girish Nov 27, 2012 04:15am
maybe we in India also read that former prime minister Nawaz Sharif confirmed that Kasab is a Pakistani, and also later confirmed by National Security Advisor of Pakistan Mahmud Ali Durrani. The fact that Kasab is a Pakistani was accepted by the Prime Minister of Pakistan and President of Pakistan. Even Kasab's father, a Pakistani citizen confirmed that Kasab was his son. Now if Kasab sent his letter in Hindi, maybe we in India kept him alive for too long... sorry for that. We made sure that he will no longer send the letters to our President.
vjjjjjjjjjj Nov 27, 2012 01:44pm
ok then tell me why you guys hate india. The answer is,- From the days of initial coups in pak, for military to rule Pakistan, a enemy is required and that was India. The truth behind China friendship. Since Pakistan had not status to treat China as enemy (although in principle there should have been a war between Pak and China over parts of Kashmir, which Pak ceded to China) it was natural for army to consider China as friend and dance to its tunes. "Enemy Indian and friendly China" is the mindset created by rulers to facilitate their wishe to rile pak. And during those days their narratives were final and media didnt question their narratives.The worst they did and continue to do is distort history in school books If there is another coup, even your kid will be like you.
AHA Nov 26, 2012 09:24pm
Turkey as a model Islam State. Was = Yes Is = Don't know Will be = Definitely not.
Saad ur Rehman Nov 26, 2012 11:39pm
so your telling me your agencies cant keep an eye on us, so you guys are using dawn .
Silajit Nov 27, 2012 04:36am
You have apologized which is as much as you as an ordinary citizen can do. You have written things that could put your life in danger. I salute you!!
kart Nov 26, 2012 09:06pm
Sorry to disagree with you Faiza... commendable though ur article is... the facts have changed... it is not only those from impoverished backgrounds who have fallen prey to this "brainwashing"... recent trends indicate that even the educated rn't immune to such hogwash... now this poses a real problem to those who believe that education is the way out of this mess for the many millions ready to lay down their pathetic lives for a pathetic cause...
Atif Nov 26, 2012 08:57pm
With all your respect. US couldn't wiped out Afghanistan. You are not US we are not Afghanistan.
Honest Man Nov 26, 2012 08:52pm
95% of Pakistan still believes that 9/11 or 26/11 was an inside job done by US/Israeli and Indian Govt to give bad name to peaceful Islam and Muslims. Even Pakistani intellectuals (so called) also says the same. Same is the reason of continuous failure and fall of Pakistan because of its weak civil society.
Does not matter Nov 27, 2012 04:42am
No one said Kasab wrote the mercy plea with his own hands. Can he even write a letter?
Rahmat Nov 26, 2012 11:27pm
Syed, what planet do you live on. Watch the CNN documentary "Terror in Mumbai" narrated by Fareed Zakaria.
Rao Nov 27, 2012 03:20am
Kasab is a "anguta chaap" . His mercy petition was written by the lawyer, appointed by the Govt. of India to represent him.
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:33am
your nation was born out of hatred . n will perish through it is happening already ..while islam is thriving in india even after 60 years
ahmed Nov 27, 2012 01:30am
india has not taken morality contract to claim anything like the pure islamic republic of pakistan ...i would have like to see many innocent pakistanis who were hanged for no reason ... or that condemned Bhutto ..stop preaching others of morality n change urself as u r scared of what will happen to you for your allegiance to so called religious moral police .....
Kongposh Nov 26, 2012 08:06pm
As said by Mr. Taj.. It is political dispute between India and Pakistan for which they need to sit and sort it out. And let kashmiris decide what they want instead of suppressing them and calming that Kashmir is a part of India or Pakistan without taking view of natives "Pandits+Muslims" in to consideration..Kashmiri pandits are integral part of Kashmir and will always remain but because of this dirty political games played by Pakistan and India has left kashmir bleed..Bleeding Paradise..
Ahsen Wali Mohammad Nov 27, 2012 12:46am
No, they actually do not. Have you read any textbooks from Pakistan that contain hatred for India? If so, please specify. I have been educated in Pakistan and have only read facts.
Beg Nov 27, 2012 12:47am
You said it fareed zakaria and CNN and you know how truthful they're and how much bias they have against pakistan and Islam and muslims
Beg Nov 27, 2012 12:57am
Imran you have shown mirror to Indians.rising India with rising number of slums,aids patients, corruption etc
Pradeep Sharma Nov 26, 2012 11:14pm
Ajmal Kasab's trial was done in Disctrict Court, then in High Court and then in Supreme Court with complete legal support to Ajmal. There is no basis when its said 'whereas for some his
Vinu Nov 27, 2012 01:14am
Why only 65 years .. lets talk about .. gaznavi, ghauri, babar, aurangjeb all those muslim and peace loving butcher of peaceful Islam loving followers? Can yo Justify 26/11 now? This will never end .. what a shame on educated pakistanis.. Talk to malala and humid mir.. they may explain to you. In 65 years if you have not understood then now is the time... Kashmir is India .. no matter how many 26/11 happens.. and more it happens .. Indian resolve will be more stronger...
Rao Nov 28, 2012 02:19am
Buddha preached non-violence, but unfortunately most of the Buddhist majority countries tend to be dictatorships / military ruled Thailand - democracy now, but ruled for years by military Cambodia - Dictator Hun Sen Srilanka - Megalomaniac Mahinda Rajapaksa Vietnam - Communist ruled Laos - Dictator ruled Myanmar - Long ruled by military China - Communist ruled North Korea - Dictator In most of these countries their own nationals were massacred by these dictators.
Rao Nov 28, 2012 02:08am
WOW Fantastic Komal.....What an imagination and logical thinking....You should be heading Pakistani or indian intelligence agency depending on your nationality
Riju Nov 26, 2012 07:35pm
Vineeth Nov 26, 2012 07:36pm
Kashmiri Muslims, let me tell you this without any bias. No amount of stone throwing or strikes can convince the Indian government to hold a plebiscite in the valley, and with good reason. The vast majority of Indians strongly believes that Kashmir has to remain as an integral part of India. In their minds, this was their land before the arrival of Islam. They would vehemently oppose any steps taken by the government that could potentially result in full fledged independence for the valley. Any government to take such a step will fall and the party will prove so unpopular with people that they can write off any remote chances of them returning to power for the forseeable future. Even most Muslims residing in other parts of India will not support Kashmir's demand for independence. Jinnah's 'Two nation theory' has already given good reason for many Hindus to believe that Muslims are incapable of living in peace with another religious community, and that they will demand independence if they are allowed to become majority in an area. Secession of Kashmir will only make this worse and even if major riots are miraculously averted in India on its occurance, the Indian Muslim will still be looked upon with even deeper suspicion as a fledging secessionist. If the Kashmiri Muslims still feel that independence has to achieved at all costs, there is only one way. Start a full fledged armed struggle. Take to the streets en masse. Attack the Army barracks. Fight against the Indian military with tooth and nail. Kashmir will burn, and tens of thousands will be killed. But that is the only way. Only then will the Indian people start to wonder what use it is to hold on to a land whose inhabitants hate them with such passion. Be ready to undergo untold sufferings and sacrifices. You cannot break free from India without shedding a lot of blood. Believe me, Indians do not wish to see their country divided again based on religion. And by the way, I have addressed only Kashmiri Muslims here. Hindus from Jammu or Buddhists from Ladakh will have to be certified lunatics if they wish to secede from India and live under the Muslim majority rule of the valley. Jammu and Ladakh has already demanded separation from Kashmir to a Union territory status. However, the Indian govt has not approved such a trifurcation as it could make the demand the for an independent Kashmir valley even stronger.
Kashmiri Nov 26, 2012 01:48pm
Well, nice article which shows sympathy with the the victims of 26/11. Well, I agree with the author in every aspect. But, I have some questions to Indian fellows and to the author. Why media is crying so much when a hindu, Jew or Christen dies and when muslims are massacred no one writes such articles. What happened to you so called Liberal Indians when young kids (school going kids) were killed by ruthlessly by Indian army when they protested against Indian occupation. I am asking you Liberal Indians and author, have you ever thought about 80000 Kashmiris who were massacred by Indian troops. have you ever tried Mr. Jagmohan who was involved in these atrocities. I have lost 6 members of my family when army resorted to indiscriminate firing in 1993. You are crying for 160 people died in Mumbai. Have you every cried for other people who face same fate in different form terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism whether it is by Ajmal Qasab in Mumbai or Indian forces under organised manner in Kashmir. I am asking question to author. If she claims to be the champion of human rights why she is did not wrote same article when 155 Palestineans were killed by Israels. Where they not same innocent people like Mumbai people. Don't not mix terrorist activities with any religion. There are causes of terrorism. Young muslim sees descimination at the hands of world powers as is seen in Palestine , Kashmir and Afganistan, They don't find justice in the present demcotratic set up. If there would have been any rule of law then issues like Palestine and Kashmir would have solved. You have solve the problems which are root cause of terrorism. You can't justify killing of Kashmiri generation as they are against Indian nationalism and advocate stern action agaisnt terrorsist when common hindu is being killed . I think you so called liberals should ask yourself why one person killed by muslim terrorsist is being treated as innocent and when subjugated muslim is killed for his just cause is not treated as innocent................................................Just ponder on this......................... Terrorism will be wiped out.....................
Sam Nov 26, 2012 07:40pm
:) yes it is... and so is Baluchistan and Sindhudesh...
Shankar Nov 26, 2012 05:18pm
If Pakistan wasn't such a electricity deficit country I would have recommended electric shock therapy for all you guys as a last effort to get your brains sorted out. But with so little electricity to go around it will be a sheer waste.There is not a single useful contribution that muslims make in the entire world except terrorism qand mindless violence and then trying to cover it up by playing the victim.
Mansoor Nov 28, 2012 01:42am
It is high time that Pakistani civil and millitary establishment fully cooperate with India to bring to justice those resposible for 26/11. I am a Pakistani who loves this country but does not believe in using terrorism as a tool of foreign policy. I do believe that if you are kind to others sooner or later they will be kind to you, why dont we try this practice now.
Rakesh Nov 27, 2012 04:59pm
@ Komal ... Hahahah Good one ;-) If I can add to that...the Indian government knew that it was during the time of a muslim it expected many muslims to be at the railway station so that maximum damage can be done to them! But what I fail to understand is...what was Osama Bin Laden doing in Pakistan, if he was complicit with the Americans...
Jack Nov 26, 2012 07:43pm
AHA Nov 27, 2012 06:13pm
Faiza is a Pakistani, and so am I and so are the many, many very sane and normal people around me. I suugest you have some ice-chilled Thumbs-Up immediately. It will do wonders!
Syed Nov 26, 2012 05:18pm
The article is just frivolous. RAW planted Kassab and his group were employed to create a 9/11 type of scene in India. Indian Hindus wanted to gain international sympathies and an international reaction on the line, as Americans reacted against Afghanistan taking the plea of Trade Tower blast. Further they wanted to cover up the massacre of Kashmiris by Indian Army by implicating Pakistan Army in this drama.
Sikander Abbas Nov 26, 2012 07:59pm
Agree. But you cannot blame the whole Pakistan for only 2-3% of sick minded people who are not just killing indians only but more of muslims. And Faiza shouldnt be apologizing on behalf of those sickos
Tarun Arora Nov 26, 2012 03:50pm
Partition was a really great thing for Hindus.Without partition,26/11s would had happened on daily basis all over India.
taranveer Singh kafir Nov 27, 2012 08:31am
sweet faiza
Zimbo_Indian Nov 26, 2012 04:38pm
I think you are referring to Kashmiri Muslims and not to Kashmiris. Because Kashmiri Hindus have already been ethnically cleansed from the valley by peace loving Kashmiri Muslims who have the moral and material support of peace loving Pakistanis.
Sikander Abbas Nov 26, 2012 07:50pm
do you really think we pakistanis care about your hatred comments in a pakistani newspapers with all thumbs up and stuff? NO and stop playing double standards for YOUR god's sake. You can keep Faiza, we really dont want her in our land
zain Nov 27, 2012 09:22pm
Pakistan is the epicentre of terrorism.
Beg Nov 28, 2012 03:48am
Mansoor,Pakistan has been lending friendly hand towards India by giving so many concessions such as making India most favorite nation,promoting business on many occasion unilaterally, releasing prisoners including spies involved in bomb blast and friendly gestures from Pakistan goes on and on with little or muted response from India and on the other hand India is making dams on pakistani waters, assisting militants in baluchistan through afghanistan and trying to tarnish pakistan in every the way why you are implicating pakistan so decisively in Bombay attacks when there is no definitive evidence of that. Things can only better if pakistan is treated equally by India.
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 02:28pm
@raika, Elections, free of Indian interference are held in your state.Why do the people vote for a government that is India friendly? Come to Kashmir and see the ground reality.... NC is not the voice of Kashmiris but other way round .. It is the voice of New Delhi to Kashmiris... @ Shiv, That Kashmiris know the danger they are facing when coming out on streets... YES WE DO... But what do you call the acts of Indian forces when they kill 7 year olds ? Chivalry... I GUESS..
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 02:40pm
@MalayDeb, I really appreciate that you have read the complete post. What you have mentioned about the discussions and panelists is TRUE. But Sir, Those are drawing room politicians most of whom have never ever been to kashmir on ground but base their discussions / opinions on media converage which unfortunately in Kashmir's case is biased. The coverage is 70/30 with 30 being the doctored truth and 70 being ballant lies. I invite all my indian brothers to come to kashmir and see the ground reality but on the condition that they come with empty and unbiased mindset. As rightly said by someone, Its only the empty pot that gets filled with the nectar of knowledge.....
syam Nov 28, 2012 04:39am
My brother Ghaznavi can your government and people of the Pakistan provide the evidence against Sarabjit singh or on RAW the way the indian govt provided for 26/11 or for any other matter
Ravi Nov 26, 2012 11:19pm
You may be aware of the saying - "keep your friend close, but keep your enemies closer."
zain Nov 27, 2012 09:25pm
WORLD wud destroy pakistan.
Rakesh Nov 27, 2012 01:07pm
Dawn is doing great service to truth and humanity! As well as Pakistan...
raika45 Nov 26, 2012 02:18pm
So what are you crying about? That you are a muslim and you want your own land?How many of your Kashmir's people agree with you? Elections, free of Indian interference are held in your state.Why do the people vote for a government that is India friendly?Your one voice want's to control the state? If the majority of the people want their view ,who are you to object..NO body is stopping you to leave and find your preferred domicile.Stop the interference from outsiders that create trouble and peace will return to your state.
reji Nov 26, 2012 05:51pm
If pakistan as a nation needs any respect in the international community of nations then its citizens should stand up against the religious blood thirsty fundamentalist and stop tolerating their hate mongering activities in your local streets. Then the pakistani society can hope to achieve the support and appreciation that the pakistani girl malala enjoys today.
Vikas Nov 26, 2012 05:25pm
Kasab was hanged quickly because the president of India did not show any mercy towards him. Do we need to tell any more?
Nina Nov 26, 2012 10:37pm
Taliban can claim what they want. That doesn't mean they are the purest of Muslims.
Azaad Nov 26, 2012 11:38am
Thank you,
BRR Nov 26, 2012 10:45pm
Feel good sentiments mean nothing, when the same powers that be let the goons walk freely around and make more threats, when the perpetrators will never be arrested or prosecuted, when most people just don't give a damn to mayhem caused by pakistani muslims on non-muslims just because they deem those others less than human.
vjjjjjjjjjjj Nov 26, 2012 06:00pm
If India wants to destabilize Pakistan it is only a matter of few days to a week, given the situation and divide in Pakistan. At the outset India doesnt want a Taliban neighbor !!!
hdhd Nov 26, 2012 03:13pm
Even if it survives Hindus, it will not survive Muslims rage against each other. Goodluck
Jawwad Nov 26, 2012 04:53pm
Guy asks his father for new clothes at Eid. Guy gets slapped by his father. Guy runs away from home, finds a labor work in nearby big town. Sees people around him with flashy cars and objects. Decides to rob people to get those flashy things for himself. Decides to get a hand gun in order to do his robbing. Meets a local guy and inquires weapon. Is sent off to this camps and is being given huge monies to spend and use weapons. Now is addicted to the money and is then tasked with killing innocent people next country and happily accepts the offer. I may be an idiot but tell me where is the religion in all this? Capitalism, commercialism, materialism is simply playing havoc with the minds of people. Let's not equate every senseless act with religion.
vivek Nov 26, 2012 12:47pm
Pakistanis have leaned this(above) language after being at the receiving end of the terror. I appreciate it though.
vjjjjjjjjj Nov 26, 2012 02:14pm
All Pakistanis like you should be given free psychiatric treatment to keep the world safe
Rajan Nov 26, 2012 04:21pm
On 11 September 1893, Swamy Vivekananda said - "Sectarianism, bigotry, and its horrible descendant, fanaticism, have long possessed this beautiful earth. They have filled the earth with violence, drenched it often and often with human blood, destroyed civilization, and sent whole nations to despair. Had it not been for these horrible demons, human society would be far more advanced than it is now". When this will change? When we will educate ourselves?
N Nov 28, 2012 02:51am
My friend, I live in a Pakistani city called Lahore and i tell you, no one here is in favor of terrorism. And you know the funny thing is, i have a beard too and i wear a Topi as well, which is to say that i am a practising Muslim. However, sadly you are just another unquestioning adherent of the most powerful tool that is employed to shape opinions in our societies called the Media, and you are lame enough to have been bought by it in such a 'fundamentalist' way, and yes, i am implying that at the level of ideology, your view of things is just as rigid as is the view of those brain washing snakes. Good luck making unsubstantiated claims about places you have never seen in your entire life and you probably, out of your sheer presumed disgusting superiority and know-it-all moronic attitude, if it persists, never will, while you live thousands of miles away. In fact, i am amazed lame people like you still exist. Seriously. But you know what, all i recommend you to do is keep yourself a little humble and question your own faithfulness to the little you know and your unconscious and uncontrolled desire to generalize towards the perverted extreme.
Zimbo_Indian Nov 26, 2012 04:54pm
After 65 years of atricities by Indian Army in Kashmir, hardly any Muslims migrated to Pakistan. But ALL Kashmiri Hindus have been ethnically cleansed by poor, oppressed, peace loving Kashmiri Muslims. These Kashmiri Hindus have become refugees in Jammu and Delhi, in their country.
Akhlesh Nov 26, 2012 02:32pm
Many Muslims were also victimized four years ago in Mumbai by Kasab et al.
Imran Nov 26, 2012 10:49pm
And what group do you belong to, "Jack" ?
AHA Nov 27, 2012 06:19pm
What makes you think that I would ever want to talk with you.
Arun Nov 26, 2012 04:13pm
Good to see Dawn and Faiza Mirza recognizing the tragedy at the hands of Pakistani terrorists. However, what is not brought out is the complete inaction by the Pakistan Govt in prosecuting terrorists who took part in the Mumbai attacks from the safety of Pakistan. At every step of the way, Pakistanis were goading Kasab and the other 9 terrorists - go ahead and shoot, keep the cell phone on, I want to hear the shot, they would say. The main focus of 26/11 should now be on these terrorists - their arrest and their prosecution. The leader of the LeT, Hafiz Saeed roams free to train more Kasabs and Pakistan acts like he is an asset. These people have only brought shame to Pakistan.
Komal S Nov 27, 2012 07:02am
Actually Syed is true. I did my own research and concluded the same. 30% of the victims in Mumbai were Muslims.when India has only 15% muslims how come 30% of the victims were muslims. These Hindus targetted as many muslims as possible. They also killed Hemant Kharkare because he was pro-muslim. Also Taj Hotel is owned by a parsi, Leopold cafe is owned by Non Hindu and also they targetted the Jewish place to create more mis-understanding between israel and Pakistan. As you can see none of these places are Hindu places. Of course i am being cynical. It just took me 2 minutes to come up with this and now we know how conspiracy theory works.
AHA Nov 27, 2012 06:23pm
Do you mean
Beg Nov 28, 2012 04:17am
Rao,if you are truth searcher and truth lover then you know fareed zakaria and zaid hamid are both liers and hired people to undermine truth
Imran Nov 26, 2012 10:45pm
Erase Pakistan? Please erase some of your millions of slums first so that your starving people can thank you. Then you can continue with your daydreams.
reji Nov 26, 2012 05:45pm
Indian army did in kashmir what pakistan army is doing in balochistan.
Jeet Nov 27, 2012 08:28am
mukesh Nov 26, 2012 05:44pm
u hate modernity. you want to take the whole world back to the 7th century. indian judiciary is at fault. it took 4 years to hang pakistani muslim terrorist kasab.
Murthy Nov 26, 2012 04:13pm
Well said! But nothing is going to change so long as anti-Indian terrorist groups roam freely in Pakistan spreading hatred and spewing venom. I don't know how long these rabid groups of men will remain 'assets' to Pakistan.
Zimbo_Indian Nov 28, 2012 03:51pm
Dear abc, I am surprised so many negative voters failed to catch the sarcasm in your comment.
dkg Nov 26, 2012 05:39pm
Again a thoughtful article by you Faiza. thanks and good luck for future. I will like to try to explain why many people hate muslims/ islam and pakistan. It is not that they are anti-muslims/ islam/ pakistan for no reason but for the majority, this hate stems from the simple logic. As the saying goes "terrorism has no religion, community, country", it simply means that any act of terrorism MUST be condemned/ denounced openly and with all its might by the very community/ country to whom the terrorist belongs. otherwise a silent message goes to the world that this community/ country support the terrorist morally, ethically, socially, culturally and may be financially. If you look around the history, the opposition/ condemnation of terrorism/ terrorist attack by muslim/ islamic community/ countries is very very less, covert, ambiguous and almost absent. The continuous involvement of muslims in terrorism indirectly tells the world that there is something wrong with the muslim/ islamic community/ society throughout the world and people logically or illogically relate this problem to islam. that is why when some muslim condemn the terrorism, it is termed as "shedding crocodile tears" as it does not reflect the position/ will of muslim society as a whole on ground level. Those who are mentioning there comments on kashmir, pelastine etc, i would simply say that this article is not about that and although every act of violence against innocent, women, children is highly condemnable under any circumstance and culprits must be punished but one cannot relate each type of violence with the same yardstick. to those estranged kashmiri people against the so-called killing of about 80000 kashmiris in last 20-30 yrs and so-called atrocities everyday by indian army, i would like to say that the figures are highly inflated, many of them were not innocent and were militants. There had been killing of innocents in this war against terrorism in kashmir by some of the black sheep of indian army but that does not reflect the stance of indian army and indians as a whole. We whole heartedly condemn the killing of innocents and that too by branding them as terrorists and feel shame for that. The cases are on-going and in others, they are yet to be registered and proceeded. the whole process is undoubtly painfully slow. The offenders must be brought to justice as soon as possible. besides this, i would also like to tell kashmiris that as you yourself have accepted that the violence erupted in 1980s, before that there was no such problem. the problem that started in 80s in the valley was political. In the eye of storm was NC ruled by muslims. why kashmiri pundits were persecuted for that, nobody knows and kashmiri muslims never raised their voice and never stand against the persecution of fellow kashmiri just because they were of different religion. why religion was involved in the political problem and issues, can you (kashmiris) please explain? handling of a protest especially a violent one can be debated but shooting the protesters, leave aside killing them, is never the first option and only the last resort. if one starts blaming killing (although un-intentional) of innocent people during violent protest by security forces in trying to maintain law and order, that would be unfair with security forces. Till muslim community/ society continue to misuse/ abuse religion in all their problems- political, social, national or otherwise, there problems will never be solved.
raika45 Nov 26, 2012 12:52pm
One cannot blame the common Pakistani for what happened.The problem lies in a certain group of "morons" where their Islamic thought is embedded in their minds and all else does not matter.Unfortunately those who teach them or lead them to enact horror in the name of their Islam still walk free.Therein lies the weakness of your administration.The doings of a small group is giving Pakistani's a bad name.
raja hindustani Nov 27, 2012 06:30pm
Nice & Bold article faiza. Lets hope Pakistan now show the same determination to punish the masterminds of 26/11 and punish them accordingly.
Krs Nov 26, 2012 05:54pm
A raw mind obsessed with RAW posing raw questions . If a country does have the economic , military or other strengths why should others be green with envy ? May be it is because they are from the land of the green flag!
Rehman Nov 27, 2012 06:01am
There are video and photographic proofs to punish Kasab. Is there any witness in the case of Sarbjeet singh??
vjjjjjjjjj Nov 26, 2012 02:38pm
Probably you guys are from a group of people which whipped out Pandits from Kashmir. Real Kashmirs dont differentiate between life of a Hindu or Muslim. Please let them live in a peace.
Dudenator Nov 27, 2012 06:08am
Dude, hear your own media and eminent journalists like Marvi Simred and Najam Sethi. There are plenty of videos on Youtube showing how you guys spread hatered against Indian and non muslims. However good or bad our media may be, we do not preach hatered against any community.
Rao Nov 26, 2012 12:52pm
Ayesha Siddiqa wrote that when she asked university students in Lahore, Karachi & Islamabad what they thought about handing over Hafiz Saeed & other conspirators of Mumbai attack to India to improve relations; the students response was that they want improved relations with India, but didn't want the conspirators to be handed over They will be next generation of leaders & administrators in Pakistan and look at their attitude..It doesn't augur well for a change in Pakistan's attitude towards its neighbours
Human Nov 26, 2012 03:37pm
Pakistan should start handing over PhD in Conspiracy theories & UnImaginable Reasoning. Good muslims destroyed Hilton hotel because Allah ordered its serving wine more than any other place, We killed Hazaras becuase they are not muslims at all as only Sunnat defines mulsims. Kashimiris are good muslims & baloch killed by our army are bad muslims..actually disguised hindus sometimes born as Muslims like Nawab Bugti & that lady raped by Good muslims in PAkistan Army...Grow up "Good Muslims" of IRP
Tarun Arora Nov 26, 2012 03:47pm
Yes,love pakistan,and hate all others forever.Thank you,sir.
Nina Nov 26, 2012 10:39pm
Thank you for your advice.
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 01:48pm
Mr Shantanu, It is unfortunate that you keep on playing the internal issue harp... It is a matter of human lives that we are talking about. For you record i don't need any outer source of information as I myself am a Kashmiri who survived there during that period. Again I am discussing here about the political conflict. It is unfortunate that 90 % of Indians don't actually know about the realities of Kashmir but still consider themselves an authority over it. and just the tip of the ice berg for your information visit wiki page given below: Again even this wiki page does not do justice to what we have gone through. Please don't think that i am against India or Indian people. I condemn all killings be it Mumbai, Orissa, Gujarat or Kashmir. It is time for us , the new generation for not to be blinded by the hatred bred into our by politions but see the reality... Satyamay Vijaytay--ONLY TRUTH SHALL PRIVAIL...
Vgp Nov 26, 2012 03:21pm
Nobody in this world has to do anything except sit and watch the fun for free. Pakistanis are the ones who will them selfs destroy pakistan one day
Tarun Arora Nov 26, 2012 03:42pm
How many Kashmiri Pandits were killed/massacerred/driven out of your so called beautiful kashmir?Any counting,sir?
Vishal Nov 26, 2012 03:20pm
The pakistanis have committed these horrendous crimes against Indians and there own people till this date and that's why Pakistan as a nation continues to suffer: the cycle of Karma guys. And shame on the guys who actually are encouraging these murders over Kashmir, get a life!!
Devil Nov 26, 2012 02:43pm
Nopes, please do not compare your establishment with ours ! And believe me, we do not like "Pakistanis" at all, call it generalizing or anything. Do not visit us ! Please !!!! No Cricketing ties ! no Aman ki aasha!
Imran Nov 26, 2012 06:15pm
I have some advice for the likes of Faiza. Please don't go overboard in your apologetic attitude to Indians. The average Pakistani had no control over the events that led to 26/11, just like the average Saudi had no control over the events that led to 9/11. Dont forget that all the 9/11 bombers were Saudis. Do you hear any Saudi apologising to the US? Of couse we do not support the terrorists in any form. But your apology implies that somehow you facilitated or condoned these events. Terrorism is a global phenomena. If 166 Indians have died, we are very sad about that. But 35000 Pakistanis have also died apart from thousands of other nationalities. I'm afraid thats the reality of the harsh world we live in.
Geromoni Nov 26, 2012 04:07pm
The writer should remember How USA did a trial in case of terrorist Laden. After that If you 4 years of trails for a mass murder was a speedy trial , then what can I say ?
AHA Nov 27, 2012 06:02pm
Absolutely true. And this is amply proved by history as well.
P Shailendra Nov 26, 2012 02:35pm
What about killing of Kashmiri Pandit's and driving them out of the valley? Can you mention that please. The Politicians in Kashmir are Kashmiri people, your state is protected by debaring outsider to settle in Kashmir, on other hand you can go and settle in any part of India. To rest of the Indian's the issue is due to terror attacks started via Proxy war waged by Pakistan - and its fall out because of which the civilians are suffering. As far as the plebiscite, the condition was that Pakistan will withdraw from the captured territory only after which the plebiscite will be conducted. When rest of the muslims are happy with India what makes you Kashmiri's special that you want independence from India? Can't you give peace a chance, give the Govt of India to start development process for Kashmir? Its easy to blame India for everything, tell me what you are doing to stop the killings? If you continue the protests and unrest how do you expects any body will be interested to start businesses in the valley and give employment to the youth, which can use their energy in development of the state rather than the destruction?
Devil Nov 26, 2012 03:54pm
@ Taj, @Kashmiri, When the center issue of everything becomes religion then a society produces narrow-minded people like you. We may talk about the atrocities in Kashmir, but before that, tell me a singular event in your country where the voice of a Hindu/Christian or any other minority was heard on the forced conversion? Is Pakistan ever headed by a person belonging to Minority ? Has Pakistan ever thought of appointing a person from minority as a head of missile or nuclear program ? Well, you might cry wolf on Kashmir, but upon introspection you might find the filthy truths about your own ! Do not try to preach something to us which you yourself fail to implement rather lag far behind us !!!! We are a true liberal society with a few problem of our own. you fix your shanty first before pointing towards a broken window in our Villa !!!! Cheers !!
Rakesh Nov 28, 2012 05:25am
@Mansoor May your ilk grow all over the world and remain blessed! Peace :-) :-) :-)
Beg Nov 26, 2012 02:46pm
This is a biased writing against pakistan without any mention to Indian involvement in baluchistan and atrocities against kashmiris. If kassab was the main culprit why so much haste and why pakistani lawyers were not given access to kassab. I think this event was orchestrated same as nine eleven and WMDs for furthering hegemonous designs of us and Indian collaboration
Sandip Nov 26, 2012 01:44pm
One question always lingers in my head. If Pakistani Security apparatus were really serious about cross border terrorism should not they have crack down on them? Guess people in Uniform either have no interest or are stopped from doing there work for greater strategic depth. Wonder if this depth will put Pakistan in the deep trenches of religious exterimism and put other countries on receiving end.
Khurram Nov 26, 2012 01:59pm
Thank you sir that was excellent :). Love Pakistan forever.
Dhanus Nov 26, 2012 11:46am
The appologies looks like taqiya, the art of being like the enemy to deceive him. Nice try.......
Silajit Nov 26, 2012 01:50pm
Justification for 26/11 and the killing? Stop the jehadi fight, roll back LeT, JeM and others and the army will have no need to be in Kashmir. Should I get started about Bangladesh, Balochistan, atrocities committed by the Pashtuns when invading Kashmir in 1947, 26/11 itself, support for Khalistan and a laundry list of other terrorist attacks that originate in Pakistan and use them to justify a batch of crazy Indians doing the same thing to Pakistan in the future?
Rajput Nov 26, 2012 06:03pm
Now since you have justifiably listed so many crimes of Indians , its time for you to get motivated to kill some innocent lives and feel good about it . Go ahead and do it . There is something really wrong with people like you . Always remain troubled over something or the other .
reji Nov 26, 2012 06:04pm
I am an Indian but the life of kashmirees in kashmir is indeed stressful and tensed. They have no freedom and the military indulges in the high handedness and intimidating behavior with the public. I wish the people of kashmir could lead normal lives with freedom to do what ever they liked like the rest of the country. But I do understand the role of the army there as they have a job to do there. But I dont see any future for kashmir with pakistan and I dont think anyone has the appetite for a new country in the subcontinent.
Atif Nov 26, 2012 06:04pm
We failed to resolve it peacefully.
layman Nov 27, 2012 07:20pm
Well said. Why the pakistanis are still hiding the truth. No organization in India could carry out such an attack in Pakistan since there will not be any support for that. Thats the difference between India and Pakistan
Ammar Nov 26, 2012 06:04pm
8 up & 63 down - Rating Moral: Indians just hate it when some one talks truth about Kashmir
Imran Nov 26, 2012 06:05pm
And your web-name is "Human"? Very sad. Let me assure you, Faiza doesn't speak for the majority of us. A lot of us despise you tremendously.
layman Nov 27, 2012 07:35pm
"whereas for some his
reji Nov 26, 2012 05:54pm
''9/11s and 26/11s are PROVED to be created by the respective countries and blamed on innocent Pakistanis to malaign the name of Islam.''...........Lolzzzzzz
Zimbo_Indian Nov 26, 2012 04:48pm
Hate is a dangerous emotion. When you hate some one, you become a little bit like him. So beware.
Junaid Hashmat Nov 26, 2012 03:31pm
Killing of innocent people is not justified any where in the world, not in any religion. But who will tel about to the everyday 26/11 of Kashmir. If you seek equity, you must come with clean hands. Don't you know what India is doing in Kashmir ? Don't you know what RAW is doing in Balochistan ? Don't you know what RAW did in Srilanka by supporting Jafna tamils ? Don't you know what India is doing with Indus Treaty ? Don't you know what damage India is causing to BD by making Farrakha Barage on Ganges river ? Did you forget the unequal trade treaty imposed by India on Nepal ? Pakistan is being blamed for everything in the world but what RAW is doing in the whole region, no one has guts to accept that. It was India who took the matter of kashmir to UN yet she herself repudiates the resolution of UN.The only reason for failure of SAARC is the hegemonic attitude of India in the region.Although this doesn't prove the killing of Innocents on 26/11 yet no one has answer to the hegemonic attitude of India in the region and barbarities in Kashmir.
Ashok Nov 27, 2012 09:48am
@wasim, Lovely. i applaud brother for your reply. you have gone to the root cause... the last para is the real cause for any issues. only economic growth, employment can get solve this kind of issues. i love all the articles by dawn. dont know why??? even i rarely read any indian news paper. lovely news paper. lovely articles. here even i found more indians than pakistanis. may be we like our neighbors brothers. guys, if we go past no use. lets talk good and feel good.. i am sure, after few years every thing will alright. a real human being cant hate another. a single educated employed person can educate/support a poor kid to get educated in inida or pakistan.. lets make our citizen educated and employed. then there wont be any kasab or may not be hatred article or comments here. since few days, i am watching a Pakistan program Jalpari. its nice one.... love you guys...
Krs Nov 26, 2012 06:08pm
A few os us would and do empathize with your lot and wish we do not have such a repeat ! However , please note that very few of you came out in support of theKashmiri Pandits when they were slaughtered in the dead of the night. And what happened to your reactions when Kashmir was being infiltrated by stooges from across the border hell bent on creating more bloodshed . The major difference between the Mumbai massacre and the Kashmiri deaths is that while one was an outright case of state sponsored terrorism , the other was a case of lateral damage in India's fight against the infiltrators .
Zimbo_Indian Nov 27, 2012 04:26pm
No country based on religion can be a model. Even countries where the majority practices Budhhism (which is probably the most peaceful religion) are not beyond sectarian violence (Sri Lanka, Burma, etc)
G.A. Nov 26, 2012 06:09pm
The attack was indeed abhorrent and shameful. But to say that somehow India has changed because of this attack is an overstatement. India has a billion people. It has faced massive earth quakes and floods. More people die there due to hunger and disease than a one of attack that killed 130 people. It is NOT India's 9/11 On the contrary, Pakistan, with a war next door for last 30 years and the relentless bombing campaign has definitely changed this country for the worst.
AHA Nov 26, 2012 06:10pm
I thank you for your positive statement. Unfortunately for us, though, it is not anymore a
S Jafri Nov 26, 2012 10:46pm
Joe what about other acts of terrorism across the world? What drives the Israeli Army to commit the acts that it does against the dangerous people from Palestine (with their stones and pellets).. what about Timothy McVeigh? What about the shooting incident at Virginia Tech? What about the shooting incident in Colorado. What about the incidents in Myanmar. Please do not associate religion as an underlying factor with this. it is a tool that is harvested for the purpose and objective of those organizations. Remember that people make emotional and not rational decisions, religion is used as a tool to connect to people emotionally. If I kill someone, I am to blame..not the gun and most certainly not the man who molded the metal into a gun.. similarly if I am to provide a thirsty man a glass of water, the reward is mine.. not that of the man who made the glass. You must educate yourself about Islam before you can speak on it publicly, as anyone should about any topic.
Nina Nov 26, 2012 06:38pm
Only In India it is possible that Minority community brunt people alive (Hindu Pilgrims 67) that is why Gujarat massacre happened to TEACH them a lesson. Only in India the % of Muslim than at the time of partition.
guest Nov 26, 2012 02:37pm
You are welcome to migrate to Pakistan or Kashmir held by Pakistan. When Kashmiri Pandits, the original inhabitants of Jammu and Kashmir are ethnic-cleansed by muslims (who are converts) and paid mujahideens, do you suggest Indian armed forces should wait and watch than defend the nation? How about rehabilitating the Kashmiri pandits in their native homeland. How naive of you to think Kashmiri Hindus and Kashmiri Buddhists would want an independent Kashmir or Kashmir joining Pakistan? In sanskrit texts and slokas dating back to over 4000 years, 'Sri Nagar' is mentioned by the same name - and why do you think it got that name? Again, no one will stop you from migrating to POK or Pakistan - remember to take you family along. So you want Kashmir to become another Afghanistan is it? For Kashmir's own sake, India will not let that happen.
akil akhtar Nov 27, 2012 05:03am
Hit the nail on the head.
Khurram Nov 26, 2012 02:07pm
Pakistan will survive InshALLAH don't worry about the more loss to Pakistan.
Saurabh Nov 26, 2012 06:40pm
It is same like when Muslim killed by Muslims like syria and other Muslim countries is like just tragedy or routine,but when muslims killed by drone is terrorist act.
Jack Nov 26, 2012 06:45pm
You forgot to mention to mention the target killings of shias and ahmadis on a daily basis. Is RAW also responsible for this? Shall we count the number of Shias killed in the last two years and can you explain the logic behind this? You seem to have an answer for everything.
Shareiq Nov 26, 2012 06:53pm
No killing more than a million plus bengali muslims is chivalry. No killing Nawab Bugti is chivalry. No killing Ahmedis who are by constitution proclaimed to me non-muslims is chivalry. No wiping more than 15 % of hindu and other religious minorities from the face of Pakistan is chivalry. No killing of Harazas is chivalry. No keeping the flag of polio alive is chivalry. Wakeup dude, smell the coffee, the WORLD dislikes (put mildly) Pakistan.
Mandeep Nov 26, 2012 06:59pm
Has your Govt provided any evidence of RAW's alleged involvement in terror activities anywhere in Pakistan ? You had gone to International court in case of Baglihar Dam accusing India of violating Indus-Water treaty. Do you know the outcome ? Have you in the last 20 years read any statement from head of state or government from any of India's neigbhour, except Pakistan, of India being hagemonic ? You should know the difference between being hagemonic and being big. India is only defending itself in Kashmir against a proxywar launched from inside Pakistan and has right to do so. On the other hand all neigbhours of Pakistan have blamed it for being host to terror groups which are targetting their people. Pakistan's most prominent ally, USA, has repeatedly accused Pakistan of insincerity in war against terror. So try to understand what the author is trying to say and dont balme others for sake of it.
anand Nov 26, 2012 06:35pm
You surely represent the kind of mindset Jihadis have, always blaming others for their cruel acts. Your rhetoric will keep you away from knowing the true answers to geo-political issues you raised. Someday,take a deep breath & revisit the issues. Know your facts. Anyways are they justification for killings of 26/11, if India has issues with neighbours. Answer me-Why on earth Pakistan is a pariah state for the entire world & India & Indians are welcome across the globe. What about Pakistani extremists caught in terror attack in London Bus/Train bombings & other parts of Europe & recently again in US(Faisal Shazad).Give me some reasons for that too.You have a fertile mind.
monty Nov 26, 2012 06:32pm
you pakistanis killed thousands of hidus in pakistan till now and u cry for those mere 80000 muslims .same on you.
aks_USA Nov 26, 2012 07:12pm
well unfortunately the main accused are roaming freely in your country --which is known worldwide for only one type of export...u guys should understand that these guys whom u are supporting are killing people in your backyard
Jack Nov 26, 2012 07:12pm
The author needs to be congratulated for raising this issue. As one can read the comments, the narrow minded confusion and zeal of religious identity strikes out from those who think they are muslims first. Seriously, this fight and the fights over the last decade between India and Pakistan are not the truly between the countries. These fights are between Pakistanis who want Pakistan first and those Pakistanis who want "Pure Islam" before Pakistan's well being. The many like this author can be assured that those seek Pakistan's well being before islam will get unconditional support not just from Indians but the whole world. If my statement is false, see the comments of those who talk of atrocities againts muslims. These folks are least bothered about what matters to Pakistan and they seem to think holding islam flag will make them better Pakistanis. 26/11 is one of the many terrorist acts that has resulted due to this confusion of nationhood versus religion. Faiza belongs to the group who want Pakistan first-no wonder she had guts to write this!!!
chakraborty Nov 26, 2012 01:55pm
166 People Killed, Enraged around 1 Billion Hindus, May have radicalised millions of Hindu youth against pakistan and Islam. Also Image of Pakistan and Islam got tarnished due to the incident. It did and will in future cause more loss to Pakistan than India.
Devil Nov 26, 2012 02:31pm
Well, I can just sympathize that you do not know the difference between a war (civil-war ?) or deaths due to terrorism. Your comment is a reflection to the extremist thought prevailing in your society. You are loosing precious human lives and your image is getting dented daily and still you support terrorism. Only a mentally sick person can justify 26/11. If you want to take a revenge, come on a level playing field and fight on the border, but you know that it needs lot of guts to do that, which you extremely lack and the easiest way is to walk-in quietly and then kill unarmed innocent man/woman and children. Believe it or not, but curses never go unanswered. All of us pay to ours sins, sooner or later! If one doubts, visit Pakistan and have look, you will start believing in it !!
Palak Nov 26, 2012 06:25pm
take care of karachi, then think kashmir
Vikas Nov 26, 2012 05:26pm
I know what India is doing to you. Driving you crazy. :-)
Syed Nov 27, 2012 05:43pm
By hanging Kassab you cannot justify the killing of Kashmiri or muslims in Gujrat. Otherwise Kassab was also RAW installed terrorist. There are no clan or tribe or cast with the name Kassab, in Pakistan. He was definitely imported from elsewhere.
Nina Nov 26, 2012 06:21pm
I do not agree with you, Infact Pakistan is after the killing of inocent people in Kashmir, Remeber one thing it is very easy for India to ERASE Pakistan from the world map but India will never do it since we beleive Pakistanis are our own people..
Sameera Nov 26, 2012 01:51pm
So you also wanted India to execute 70k captured paki soldiers ?
AHA Nov 26, 2012 06:02pm
None, except maybe in Utopia.
Ahmed sultan (mumbai) Nov 28, 2012 03:27am
@saad. I hope you only read about their arrest. You didn't read about two police officers getting suspended by the home ministry and one officer belong issued a warrant. And fyi no fatwa was issued. Now get a life and be safe from target killings
Mohan Menon Nov 27, 2012 07:33pm
Keep remembering about Bagladesh and dont let it to be forgotten.Blame India for your misery and soon Pakistan will be forgotten only to be found in history.
Devil Nov 26, 2012 03:36pm
Yes, we know that Pakistan will survive another Partition, but you might think of re-naming it to "West Punjab", will be more appropriate I guess ;-)
AHZ Nov 27, 2012 06:32am
For "SOME" it raised question about the indian judiciary speedy trial, can author explain that who these some are as in my opinion kasab should have been executed long before.
krishnan Nov 26, 2012 02:26pm
Agree with you. Fazia's article is beautiful and let us leave it at that.
Ravi Nov 26, 2012 11:16pm
Difference is most Islamic countries deem this kind of behavior is acceptable. Didn't most of Pakistan approved and applauded terrorism against India? Don't the textbooks in Pakistan promote hatred against Hindus and India?
Rahmat Nov 26, 2012 11:21pm
Nina have you ever lost a dear one in the same brutal manner as those killed on 9/11 or 11/26?
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:21pm
it would be magnanimous if the writer ever supported her own country on anything..
Vinu Nov 27, 2012 01:18am
Ask to any Bangladeshi.. they will have better answer.. And watch out many more bangladesh will be created... Balochistan.. Pakhtunistan... Northistan.. Westithstan.. Finally karachistan... Your Islamabad will remain pakistan.. Good luck to you and like minded pakistanis.. May allah wish your wishes
Bill Nov 26, 2012 07:35pm
Kashmir and Indias hegemony had nothing to do with killing the jews in bombay. Or the children of a foreign missionary. Or the murder of a citizen of singapore. Or the Germans. These wanton killings have nothing to do with anything but religious hate. Sovereignty of Pakistan is no excuse to threaten others in the name of Jihad. Pakistanis have to clean up their societies. Arrest Hafeez Syed and his gang of murderers. Or expect more drones and bin-ladin type raids.
Tamilselvan Nov 26, 2012 02:32pm
Kashmiri, What about the Pandits you have kicked them out of Kashmir? Look at history of Pakistan and Bangladesh where 50 yrs back they had a sizable minorities and now they are marginalized. You want the same to happen to Kashmir but a secular nation is responsible for all its citizens. On the positive side people in the valley are fed up of terrorists, IED, killing of innocents with the support of so called liberators. When will it stop. Law and order must be maintained. No muslim is subjugated in India. Look at IT industry, Bollywood and other institutions. Can Pakistan claim at least a tenth of it. Please ponder, yes we too have lost lives due to terrorism by radicals muslims. Can you help prevent it? Please grow up and you seem to be narrow minded when you discrimate people by religion. A human life is the same whether it is hindu, muslim (shia, Ahmaduia, Aga Khani or sunni), jew, sikh, buddist or a christian
RAJA Nov 26, 2012 12:55pm
26/11 should not be forgotten , just like Holocaust, , SO that we do not repeat any part of subcontinent .Also like Germany respect the fact Pakistan should also express symbolic respect on this day . than Indian people will believe that Pakistan is also serious ELSE CROCODILE TEARS
AHA Nov 27, 2012 11:38am
Faiza is correct. A major chunk of Pakistanis do not intend any harm to Indians. And you are correct too, almost . Pakistan has become a hub of global terrorism and such extremist organizations could not have survived in Pakistan without the tacit support of the certain powerful institutions.
BRR Nov 26, 2012 10:41pm
Sorry, but for my own survival, and of that of my family, we need to keep on eye on developments in pakistan, and on fanatics who will kill for going to heaven. Yes indeed, being ignorant of such fanatics will not make us safe in the US, in India or anywhere. Thus, whether we like it or not, we have to keep an eye on Pakistan for our own survival, and safety. Not for the pleasure of reading about people blowing each other up.
Nulla Nov 26, 2012 03:00pm
you said Pakistan will survive .. from whom ? who kill each other on every day name of religion
Mohan Menon Nov 27, 2012 08:05pm
I must say that i am wonderstruck by your comments and i bow down to your your honesty.I truly believe that publishing this letter in urdu in Pakistan can prevent the innocents being brain washed,expose the terror masterminds and probably solve the civil war like situation there.So far i knew only one Wasim Akram,the great fast bowler but let me tell you are nothing short of that...bravo!!
sri1ram Nov 26, 2012 12:54pm
Religion teaches us to love and understand one another. The life of Mohammad does have a lot of inspirational teachings - please keep those actions and preachings into focus rather than the wars, blood-letting and violence common to all mono-theistic religions. If one completely denies the positive points of a faith, that is the end-point of all understanding.
Cynical Nov 26, 2012 12:14pm
Thumbs up! To Faiza and DAWN.
Zimbo_Indian Nov 26, 2012 12:13pm
The apology is accepted with all humility. But there is really no reason for the well meaning Pakistani to apologise. The best Pakistani response would be to create public opinion in favour of liberal thought and discourage parochial attitudes which emanate from sectarian teachings in madarsas.
Shiv Nov 26, 2012 02:12pm
You have to see this in context. The Kashmiris know when they come out on the streets that they face danger, and they take that risk. While any loss of life is indeed saddening, it is worse when humans backed by a largely sympathetic country kills innocent and importantly unsuspecting public. Pakistan attacked India 4 times militarily, but we Indians never cribbed about it. It was a military confrontation which every army should be prepared for. Mumbai was a very barbaric, animalistic and uncivilized conduct as for the first time you attacked unarmed and unsuspecting civilians, which is also I would say, cowardly.
AHA Nov 27, 2012 06:08pm
Excellent observation.
abc Nov 26, 2012 03:35pm
Absolutely true. All the tenssions in Pakistan are created by the India-Israil-USA lobby and the 9/11s and 26/11s are proved to be created by the respective countries and blamed on innocent Pakistanis to malaign the name of Islam. Islam is the most peaceful regigion in the world and it will rule the world very soon. aameen.
bmurray Nov 28, 2012 10:56pm
Bhaskar, Mr. Ahmed has every right to speak his mind. It's not about being respectful to the writer. He is exercising his freedom of speech after Faiza wrongly included the clemency topic.
An Indian Nov 26, 2012 11:54am
God bless you Faiza
Ravi Nov 26, 2012 11:54am
This one episode brought back relations back to brink. This happened even after commitments from highest person in Pakistan. Indian public at large still feels betrayed and opinion has formed that, Pakistan says one thing and does things exactly opposite.
Saad Nov 27, 2012 09:04pm
and two girls got detained for posting an opinion on facebook in india. get a life!? talk practicality and realism.
123xyz Nov 26, 2012 06:03pm
Terrorist have no religion........ out of 166 killed,30% were muslims... Even, in pakistan many innocent muslims were killed by these terrorist groups .... Pakistan need 1000s of Malala... Only proper education can bring peace in the region
Muhammad Nov 26, 2012 03:22pm
Is Pakistan a model Islamic state?If not which are the countries in this world that are model Islamic state?
smaniq Nov 27, 2012 09:06pm
yes and two girls got detained in india for posting an opinion on facebook... get a life!.
Sunil Nair Nov 27, 2012 08:36am
Love has the power to comfort heal and redeem. Man chooses his way to love or hate.Those who choose the path of hatred, reaches hell and those who choose to love heaven follows them.
Nina Nov 26, 2012 10:34pm
Well said Saad. They just need to get over 26/11 and move on. Or at least stop stalking us.
kausik Nov 27, 2012 05:03am
Excellent analysis by wasim on the touching article by Faiz Mirza.
Khan Nov 26, 2012 12:27pm
It is sad that 25 years old wasted his life for hate that was infested in his brain. The question is, how we can stop this madness. Who is behind it? It has to be analyzed subjectively and objectively. Truth will not be revealed for many years to come
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shriyansh Nov 26, 2012 05:27pm
Everyday 26/11 of Kashmir by Pakistan Trained Terrorist you are talking about that???? I accept there is some problem related to administration and over AFSPA, but we can solve our problem you better focus on solving Target killing in Karachi, Baluchistan problem and daily explosion in every part of your country.Terrorism sponsored state is far worse than faulty policy of India that why people of world don't listen to you. Every nation has right to use natural resources for betterment of its citizen.You raising this because u also want betterment of your people. Making a dam or barrage is not a crime, if there is problem to some nation they can go to International Court of justice.
AHA Nov 26, 2012 06:03pm
Great idea. We will soon have the most PhDs in the world.
human Nov 26, 2012 12:24pm
Faiza, my dear, if you wish to settle in India, you are most welcome. You can also bring some of your fellow journalists in Dawn. But for most Pakistanis, we do not want them even to visit India. We do not like Pakistanis, end of story.
malaydeb Nov 26, 2012 12:16pm
Thumbs up! To Faiza and to DAWN.
roger Nov 26, 2012 12:24pm
wwwoooooowwwwwwwwwww well written!!!!!!!
Rahmat Nov 26, 2012 07:59pm
It would sound futile to argue Kashmir to an audiance that has been fed a line over years that India grabbed Kashmir. Yes india went to UN to seek help in having Pakistan vacate its aggression. The UNSC under influence of the British and the USA came up with reolutions that stipulated Pakistan to vacate its nationals (which by the way includes army) from the areas which they had occupied (read 'Azad Kashmi'). That has still not happened, and not only that but Pakistan has also ceded 20 % of the territory to China. Now who has violated the terms Mr. Hashmat
shriyansh Nov 26, 2012 03:26pm
Speedy Trail???? It take in total 4 year for justice. If this is speedy one than, according to you, how much it take for normal trial???
Bhaskar Nov 27, 2012 05:00am
mr ahmed sir, please be respectful to the writer. whatever she has written, she did it so with honesty and compassion. my blood boils when i think that the pakistani establishment is shying away from the responsibilities of providing justice and blame all their incompetency to "non governmental players"..... but we must thank the average pakistani who is compassionate with the average indian in these bad times. we mustnt forget the same lame paki govt is unable to guard their own citizens from terrorist attacks. what do u expect from an average pakistani ???? start throwing shoes at their politicians and generals???? they are as helpless as us. lastly thank you miss mirza, at least for ur kindness
Sam Nov 26, 2012 07:39pm
Mr Taj - i think you better rest your case here.. I am myself a kasmiri and its no point harping on the kashmir issue to justify 26/11.. you conveniently forgot all the people who have migrated from kashmir and are only thinking in terms of your own existence there... all perspective need to be analyzed and taken into consideration.... your theory on this is naive and doesn't hold water... unless the cross border 'help' stops, there is no way indian army would be reducing its presence from there.. they have every right to defend every inch of the motherland... there could be collateral damages in this process which needs to be prevented on all account... there is a difference between terrorism and defending what you consider your own... if you comparing the two then i would say your understanding on this is full of biased thinking... we know we lost many souls however we are the one who are responsible for a better future... i would say, lets protest against the cross border terrorism, the jihadi camps and we should see our kashmir transforming into a heaven which it always was.
Sam Nov 26, 2012 07:03pm
heard bot TURKEY.. :)
andy fr dc Nov 27, 2012 05:09pm
What nonsense. Pakistan is the world's epicenter of terror, supported and protected by the intelligence and forces ( OBL, Remember ? ) .If the author actually believes that most Paks are against Terror she is clearly deluded.Facts are clearly otherwise. There is a reason Paks are wanted NO WHERE. To be a Pak in the world today is to be a Pariah. Some Muslim nations will not even let you in the country. Perhaps you should ask why ?
r Vijay Nov 27, 2012 07:25pm
Every democratic governments will have 3 branch to have checks and balances. The three branches are the Judiciary, the executive and the legislature. In Pakistan there are several governments, the civilian government, the army, the intelligence service and the last but not the least, the retired army/intelligence officers who have too much time to spend in the madarasas. There are no checks and balances here, just chaos, mass murder only.
akil akhtar Nov 26, 2012 11:20pm
Can you please explain the mayhem caused on non muslims if it is more than that caused on Muslims by teh terrorists.
Shehryar Bilal Nov 26, 2012 01:29pm
Passing a blanket statement like
DS Nov 26, 2012 07:57pm
India and Pakistan got the indepence at the same time. Pakistan instead of prospering above or equal to India, now it is at the comparative state of Afghanistan. Who is to blame? India? You guys have been crying over Kashmir, but can not handle your own population. Minority are not safe. Even minorities take pride in being a Pakistan citizen, they always fear Sunni attrocities. Forget about Hindu, Christian and sikhs, sunni's does not even let Shia's or Ahmedi's live peacefully. Why? Introspect in the teaching of islam. You blame India for everything, still at present the Indian democracy can live in harmony with Hindu's, Muslim, sikhs, parsis, jews, jains so on and so forth. Islam and pakistan people have to be open minded and stop acting like a 2 year old baby. Furthur the originators of Islam (Saudi Arabia) does not even give a damn about you. They still treat you all as third class citizen (inspite Islam calls for equaiity). For every single problem, you blame either India or West. Yorur leaders only started depending upon all the aid from the western countries. Whenever I read the newspapaper, there is atleast one headline about some people got killed in Pakistan because of bomb. Now with Muharam, the tension is so high. Even a person can not go to a mosque and peacefully pray. Come out of this narrow mentality and try to prosper else future does not look good for Pakistani people.
Dr. Yahya Khan Nov 26, 2012 01:33pm
But what about the atrocities the Indian Army is committing for the last 65 or so years in Kashmir. What about the fact that it was Mr. Nehru who brought the Kashmir issue to the UN but did he himself or any Indian government bothered to honor their words. And what about the internal problem of Pakistan in 1970 when people of ''Mukti Bahni'' were trained and sent to East Pakistan / Bangladesh to kill thousands of West Pakistani civilians who were in the other part of Pakistan. And after all that when at last the ''Shimla'' agreement came into force, the Indians did not stop but in 1984 opened a new front on Siachin. The international community is on your side as India is a large country / market. So what do you expect that when one can find no justice in a peaceful manner.
Sam Nov 26, 2012 07:22pm
your counter comment is full of naive observations and conclusions.. grow up dude.. bottom line - once the cross border institutions, camps and proxy war is stopped, you can expect normalcy to return in kashmir and the indian army to remove its existence from there... and as a citizen you have the fundamental right to protest against these proxy war from across border and help build the government structure.. if you one of those few who support the cross border 'help' then be prepared to face the wrath of army and don't complain... they have every right to protect every inch of their motherland.
AHA Nov 26, 2012 01:16pm
So you know the word (taqiya).
TAJ Nov 26, 2012 01:16pm
First of all let me make my stance clear on this mindless killing of innocent lives or human lives in general. And coming to the above point that nobody can understand the traumatic and painful experience that the Mumbaikars have gone through because of 26/11. I solemnly pray for the departed souls. But my question to my native indians is where is this sympathy when it comes to killing innocent people , children and infants in Srinagar, Kashmir? Where are all these people who chant about the killings of people in Mumbai when it comes to discuss the same about people killed in Kashmir? Just for the record, more than 200 people got killed in the summer of 2010 in kashmir with the between the age group of 7 and 25. We have been having these 26/11 for the last 20 years and i have never seen any Indian highlighting this or have seen any Kashmiri anti Hindu because of it. Why these double standards? As goes the old saying "JO TAN LAGEY SO TAN JAANAY"
shantanu Nov 26, 2012 01:36pm
Mr Taj Where did you get this information of Kashmiri getting killed.Please forward we a believable source. And please keep in mind that kashmir is our internal issue you don't have to do anything in this matter.
Sandip Nov 26, 2012 01:40pm
Not sure if there is any way for Pakistan to make U Turn from going to extrimism. Same things for Indians too. It has become a catch 22 situation. Where extrimism in one country feeds equally extrimist response from another country which again feeds into extrimisn in first country. Secondly not sure why there where questions on speedy juistice? It took 4 years to hang someone who clearly comitted this deeds as per available and acceptable proofs. If hanging someone is a right thing to do or not is a different issue. Maximum prescribed punishment as per IPC was sentenced and executed. Nothing was done outside the permissible law.
Vinu Nov 27, 2012 01:24am
If you pakistanis DO NOT know. India is for Hindus and only hindus as Pakistan is for ONLY muslims.. Bangladesh for only Muslims... So why we have muslims in india? Why not take them .. India is taking many hindus from pakistan and ready to give them place... why not a single mulism leaves India???
Sameera Nov 26, 2012 01:40pm
@Faiza Mirza: You are right .Fundamentalists believe that our mere existence is against the principles of their religious and national ideology.Fortunately or unfortunately you don't have enough capable intellectuals in your society to stand up against it and unfortunately our liberals close their eyes despite tons of instance through out the world.These fundamentalist think they are superior and rights to kill others , but the fact is completely different and they lag in all the fields.
shantanu Nov 26, 2012 01:25pm
@Faiza Mirza: Your views are commendable.And tnx Dawn for running this article. You have seen that even after so much negativity there's a big chunk of humans leaving across the border.
Krishna Nov 26, 2012 12:37pm
Fauzia through you writing you have shown the humane side of common Pakistanis, which are a majority..
Devil Nov 26, 2012 03:13pm