Dear Mr Singh,

I have never before addressed a person of your stature so do forgive me for my casual style of speech. Firstly, I would like to express my gratitude to you and your government for considering over 900 Pakistani Hindu citizens eligible for Indian nationality. It is a great gesture indeed for the Hindus who once lived in Pakistan, however, you must also realise that Christians, and even Muslims are not exactly ‘at peace’ in this country either.

I understand that Hindus remain your government’s first priority because many in your government identify with them; however, I still want to direct your attention towards the hundreds of Hazaras who are executed every day in broad daylight on the streets of Pakistan. I wanted to ask if you could lend a helping hand to the countless Christians who live in fear of being arrested or murdered for committing blasphemy in the country. The scores of civilian dying in the north-western side of Pakistan because of militancy and drone strikes could also avail your assistance, that is, if you plan to offer any.

You and a few representatives of the Indian government must also have a rendezvous with Ahmadis to understand how they face religious persecution in every aspect of their lives. I insist you meet with Pakistanis who are desperate to bring about a positive change in the society and see how they are threatened and harassed in ways that are unfathomable by many.

I am sure you would know all the details about political asylum but will reiterate that it is not easy for all Pakistanis to seek asylum in countries such as United Kingdom, United States, Canada and Australia as many of them do not have the resources to do the same. India remains the only hope for many people who can reach the country via Attari with minimum resources.

The level of desperation felt by some Pakistanis can evidently be gauged by the fact that some of them are even ready to migrate to Afghanistan — a country whose many inhabitants migrated to Pakistan in search of ‘refuge’ after the US invaded their country.

Mr Singh, we all do appreciate your humanitarian policies and would urge you to expedite the citizenship process of Pakistani Hindus, however, I find it my duty to inform you that people who profess other religions in Pakistan are equally deprived of peace and should be given an opportunity to seek asylum in India. Why is this move focused towards Hindus? Don’t you think that the Indian government, while at it, should chalk out a strategic plan to cater to Pakistanis — irrespective of caste and religion — whose lives are threatened within the boundaries of Pakistan?

Various members of the Indian government are corresponding with you on the status of Hindus who migrated to India to seek shelter. One of them is Laxmikanta Chawla who, amongst many other points, stated that, “Since the Pakistani government has failed to protect its minorities from frequent atrocities so the Indian government needs to look after them.”

Going by what Chawla said I must request you to not be so harsh on our government which is currently embroiled in a conflict with the superior judiciary and has other important tasks at hand rather than safeguarding the interest of the very people for which it was elected. It is important that you understand that the government of Pakistan is not only unable to look after its minorities but is also incapable of catering to the heavy majority and ensuring their safety.

Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality. The reason behind our desire to move is extremely simple. It is because India since 1947 has grown as a nation, an economy and a country. Despite of the poverty and other related issues, we all see India as a progressive society and in a very positive light. We all want to live in a country which is ruled by secular politicians where fascist elements are given minimum representation in the parliament; a country where people can coexist or at least consider this ideology a welcoming thought.

You caught your Kasab but what about the numerous Kasabs who are ready to wipe out the entire population of Pakistan by flagging them as infidels, anti-Islam, pro-India, US puppets and just plain secular? What about us who continue to strive for a change, however, feel helpless at the hands of the radical elements freely roaming around in Pakistan? Is there any solace for us?

Mr Singh, this might not be news to you but every life which is snubbed out in a militant or violent attack in Pakistan pushes the progress made by the handful of Pakistanis who believe in mutual respect for peace, life and religious diversity, a hundred steps back.

It is indeed with a heavy heart that I leave Pakistan today in search of a safer country — a place where I can express myself freely without being threatened and flagged as a heretic.

En route to a strange country, crossing the all too familiar roads of Karachi, I saw a poster featuring Jinnah with a small line stating “Pakistan needs you”. Mr Singh, never before did I feel such fierce emotion. The words struck me and for the first time in my life, made me realise that we all have failed Jinnah and the Pakistan he envisioned.

Like many others before and after me, I am running for safer pastures where my life will be valued and respected, leaving my fellow countrymen behind to fight with the demons that dictate the order of the day in Pakistan, my home.

I don’t know what would I have done if was given an option to move to India. Perhaps, I would have moved but this is a question that will remain unanswered unless your government starts treating dejected Pakistanis on equal footing as Hindus.

Sincerely, One amongst many Pakistanis striving for a progressive change.


Faiza Mirza
The writer is a Reporter at

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September 10, 2012 8:11 pm
You are welcome but you might be disillusioned.Don't be defeatist. Your country has problems unique to your country and my country has problem unique to mine. Educate your people. Tell them to love themselves and their neighbor. By the way a lot of Bangladeshis came to India and have taken up jobs of daily wagers in India. I don't know why they left their land. But I would suggest if you want to leave leave for Canada because it is probably the most multicultural western society. You can try China too given that it is a great friend of Pakistan. In India you would be disappointed. It is not as bad as some Pakistani gentlemen here have pointed out but it is not as good as Canada or China either. So if you are leaving leave for the better pastures. Frankly I would suggest you to stay and educate your people on loving themselves and their neighbors. The land of Baba Bulle Shah can't be all doom and gloom. All we should try to be good and get out of this hate which seems creeping in Pakistan. Everyone is hating someone. Pakistan should start loving and start that home. A lot of blame on government in Pakistan . Indian government is no great saint either but given the entrepreneurship spirit we see in everyday survival, try and bypass the government.
Ahsan Iftikhar (@Ahsan_Iftikhar)
September 10, 2012 11:01 am
Greatly stated out of proportion by my brother, who wrote the letter. I think the Government of Pakistan should identify the list of all such people and help them in seeking asylum to whichever country they desire to go. You have to stay steadfast on your ground amidst difficult times and through the thick and thin. If you are not willing to put in that effort then, you should be relieved of all the expectations. In my beloved country it is not the matter of religion, it is because of the global phenomenon (terrorism), in which Pakistan has been the worst victim (for War on Terror). Had it been religiously motivated, then you would have seen it for the minorities only. But you see excesses against all people irrespective of religion or sect.(Muslims(Sunni & Shia), Christians, Hindus, Ahmedis etc,) And frankly, how many of us had listened to this paramount excesses against Shia, Hindus, Misuse of Blasphemy laws, and many other problems that emerged since 9/11. The basic issue is bad Governance and complete inability of our leaders, establishment and nation (who vote for dumbsters again and again) in dealing with key issues at the right time. Anyhow, coming back to the point. Anybody who wishes to get off the boat because they can't sustain the storms should be allowed to get off the boat, in-fact, they should be helped to the safely of the shore which they perceive. I say it without any ill feeling for my Hindu brother who wrote this letter and wishes him best of luck.
September 12, 2012 1:31 am
The partition was a bloody amputation.Gandhi called it the 'vivisection of India' I think the partition saved India ,,otherwise it would have be torn apart with a huge Muslim population bent on arcane and esoteric "religious" experiments plunging India into chaos. Thank God for a life-saving amputation...the gangrenous part has putrefied!
September 11, 2012 6:13 pm
WOW!!!! You are one clear eyed, brave man.
September 12, 2012 2:52 am
Good thing, at least one Pakistani awakened by Faiza Mirza's journalism. Dont blame her, accept facts and awaken society, be brave and stop crying.
Garib Manus
September 11, 2012 5:29 pm
Dear Mirza, There is no Hindustan; it is India or Bharat. By constitution, we are secular, and most Indians want it that way--India belongs to all of its citizens.
September 11, 2012 4:05 pm
Dear Faiza Mirza, My honest advise to you and people interested in migrating to India. Do not wait for something to happen as a policy of country, which might take long time to conceive and enforce. But for immediate need, just apply for visit visa to India and after landing let the officials know that you intend to stay and sure things will adjust as per your desire (though it may take time to obtain citizenship). India is a secular country and can not deny right to livelihood to anyone based on religion, which is against Indian constitution.
September 11, 2012 7:03 pm
Ms. Mirza, if your objective to write this was to get audience and sympathies from across the border, then I must congratulate you that you have been successful. But if your intention was to demoralize Pakistanis then you would be utterly disappointed that u have failed in that. Pakistan will be much better off without a parasite like you. Green grass that you are seeing from across the border is not that green once u are there.
September 11, 2012 7:51 pm
You really have freedom of expression in Pak? I doubt it...Wondering why FATWA wasn't issued yet!!!
September 12, 2012 8:51 am
Very well said
September 11, 2012 5:55 pm
I would certainly second this.
September 10, 2012 11:06 am
There is no Hindu rule in India dear,the capable and elected rule here.Enemy is your perception.Can't you read/see the shining Muslim names here? One of the richest is Azim Premji. No body will dare to ask his religion here.Lacs of people are working under him in Wipro. Like that entire film world so on. Capable do things here.
Ali Hassan Ayub
September 10, 2012 8:02 pm
you are a traitor. Go move to india
September 11, 2012 8:05 pm
Great article Faiza.. except the part where you write: "The words struck me and for the first time in my life, made me realise that we all have failed Jinnah and the Pakistan he envisioned." Really? Have you heard of Direct Action Day? Your country was formed after spilling the blood of countless innocent Indians by your so-called founding fathers and to that extent, you stay true to their original message. Any country being run on the basis of rules laid down by some 1400 year old barbarian is destined to be a failure. You cannot have your cake and eat it too -- You cannot be liberal and simultaneously subscribe to a religion which brands everybody who deviates from its narrow fundamentalist world view as 'Kafirs'. 'Moderate' muslims may rationalize all they want, but the so-called fundamentalists are simply obeying the commands of their beloved prophet. All the best trying to hammer sense into them!
September 10, 2012 10:36 am
Dear Fazia, I am myself trying to get citizenship of Italy. Madam has promised. Manmohan Singh
September 11, 2012 8:44 pm
Dude she ain't going anywhere!! Keep her there
Ghani Khan
September 12, 2012 9:05 pm
Dr.Waheed , add to your observations, an Australian Christian missionary was burnt alive in one of the southern Indian states. 2000 muslims massacred in Gujarat while state chief minister, Modi quietly watched. Massacre of Sikhs & attack on Darbar Sahib Amritsar after the assassination of Indra Gandhi. A country where Hindu religion sanctions caste system,I was wondering what would be the status of Ms. Mirza if her wish comes true ..
September 11, 2012 5:51 pm
Good for you Zaheer. I have also met many Indian muslims in the USA and Europe, they tell a different story about India though. If India was all that good I don't understand why so many Indians (mostly Hindus) still want to move to other countries?
A Pakistani
September 12, 2012 4:48 am
I am totally disappointed by the writer's thoughts and vision he or she have in her mind. I just wanna ask the writer " What if your loved ones are in trouble? Do you leave them there or try to pull them out of the crisis? ". This country has given everything to you and me. We exist because our beloved country exist. Think for a while, what have we given back to this country except talking rubbish about our own country. Why cant we try together to eliminate few black sheep's who are responsible for bringing bad name to Pakistan. I am sure our country suffers because we don't take care. I love my country, I love my Pakistan. I would request all Pakistani's to respect our motherland. If we are unable to do any thing good for our country, at least don't project bad picture to the world.
September 11, 2012 7:16 pm
Would it have made a difference if she wrote about poor governance? Has it ever? Many write and many die trying, but nothing changes. Where is the Pakistan Spring? Have been waiting for it for a while now?
September 11, 2012 10:40 pm
Fact that she wants to"start living in your worst neighbours house for life" just demonstrates the state of her own house which she is desperate to leave due to no other choice.Besides the writer has written sarcastically to make a point to those who who live in denial.
Anwar Amjad
September 12, 2012 12:15 am
So-called journalist Ms Faiza Mirza moves to India - what a great news for all Pakistanis. Please fulfil your dream Faiza. Pakistan will be a much better country without people like you.
p kumar
September 11, 2012 7:33 pm
my name is not parveen kumar and i wasn't being personal.i agree with you that it doesn't matter to anybody in pakistan if remaining 1% hindus go away.However,i was just stating what interior minister did and was widely reported in pakistani may google it and look for yourself.
Noble Lucifer
September 12, 2012 12:32 am
So, a typical Pakistani, Mr. Amjad, tell Faiza that his country will be better-off with out her. I guess many like you are already telling the same to Pakistani Shias, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Balochis etc. Further, had this letter been to Mr Obama, you would have gone saying 'Me too'.
September 12, 2012 7:52 am
Mr. Tirmizi Thanks for being so clear! Many Pakistanis are leaving the country but this lady has surpassed 'Rationale' to sound utterly absurd, idiotic and a laughing material. Her words n info seems to be naive, she might not herself be. Because the world knows, if few thousand Muslims are prosperous in India, then million others are living miserably. I cannot accept how 'Dawn' has allowed an article, which is not even reasonable. Dear Faiza, Pakistanis are definitely leaving the country but no one dreams to go to India, except for people like Veena Malik, so you would have sounded more wise, selecting any other country for your article. It just seems to be written for another purpose n not just expressing her demotivation.
Ganesh (India)
September 11, 2012 5:50 pm
50000 illegal Indian immigrants in Karachi!!... Perhaps they might be are staying there since partition in 1947 !!!!
September 11, 2012 4:56 pm
Yes we have issues in Pakistan but all our medi do is highlight negativity only .... Who knows if the parents of writers were in india she might be among eight million female foetuses may have been aborted in the past decade............. Just read the link. :)
September 10, 2012 9:38 am
Awesome Faiza, I always felt that India has a moral responsibility of accommodating Pakistani hindus seeking political asylum..But I was amazed by your questioning that when asylum per se is a moral subject then why discriminate on the basis of religion..I agree with you that giving asylum should be based on humanitarian grounds rather than religious grounds..
Digvijay Singh
September 11, 2012 5:27 pm
You do not need to apply for asylum to India. You can sneak in via the porous borders by paying Sonia's election fund officers. You will be given a election voters card and a ration card - remember to vote for Congress.
September 11, 2012 11:17 pm
Easy to say when you are not the one being killed. You call all Pakistanis family when it suits your convinience.
Indian Reader
September 12, 2012 4:15 am
So many Ahmediyas have also applied for Indian citizenship. Christians are also welcomed. About Muslims, Mr Jinnah created Pakistan for a better land for Muslims and so many Muslims in pakistan claimed they are happy in Pakistan.
September 12, 2012 6:00 am
Its sad to see such an article. Instead of being a proud Pakistani, and working for the betterment of the homeland, the writer wishes to move to india, which is responsible for half of our troubles. Please don't be ashamed of being a Pakistani, no matter how tough our country is going through. After all, all the rest of the proud Pakistanis are still living and surviving in this country.
September 12, 2012 6:41 am
Please do not be upset or get sentimental from the article. This sarcastic article raises questions as why someone is leaving the country even a HINDU who have equal rights (unfortunately on papers) as any other 'Muslim Citizen'. Clearly, as you all know, protecting Pakistani Citizen's life is nowhere in Governments agenda. Accept the on ground reality my fellow countrymen...
September 12, 2012 4:00 am
Sorry boss...we do not want any of you to migrate in our just to close your eyes and escape is not a solution at all. Waise bhi apni aabadi kya kam dusro ke bojh bhi uthayenge ;)
Rakesh Kotti
September 11, 2012 3:15 pm
...for the same reason that the whole world came to India over the centuries....And people of Indian origin have become legislators, governors, and even PMs of other countries!
September 11, 2012 10:51 pm
Whatever he still has a point by the way what is yours?
September 11, 2012 10:32 pm
I wish we had never, never, never became Pakistan
Who Dunit
September 11, 2012 5:52 pm
Wow..things must be really bad in Pakistan for this article to be written and then published. I have not lived in Pakistan for over a decade, but I can say that even then it was the law of the jungle that prevailed. Two things that have destroyed a country with immense potential are corruption and religious extremism. If we can only remember that we must be good humans who readily tolerate and even help other humans then we have a chance. Alas it is a tall order.
September 11, 2012 6:17 pm
Just to remind you Faisal that Turkey has been under military rule for several decades in the past and is also home to US / NATO forces. Is India even close to Turkey in human development and quality of life? As for the drone attacks, the average Pakistani is not the intended target of these and has nothing to fear from them. So your arguments are a bit thin.
September 11, 2012 5:21 pm
raqibwyne, you will write good satire....
Mervyn Hosein
September 12, 2012 6:22 am
The sickening realization, some years ago that the country I and my children were born in was no more the 'haven' Jinnah or any other sane person had visualized made me ensure that my children should not be captive in the deep pit of inequality and hatred that we have created and allowed to be created.I am glad Faiza has managed to make the move that most good Pakistanis will be increasingly deprived of. With dedication, work ethos and a modicum of luck she will get to move beyond, 'second class citizens in somefirst class country" to just 'equal citizen'! Sadly, that she would never achieve here.
September 12, 2012 8:27 am
Ab Pakistani ko Paki nahi bolna hua to kya bolna hey. Why 'Paki' is considered a slang ? Pakistan means land of pure and paki means pure. What is slang in it. When people love someone too much they call him by his shortened name. Why you feel offensive in it ? Can you explain me ? Just imagine, whole world loves so much to you Pakistanis that they have started calling you by shortened name. Being an Indian, I am feeling jealous.
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:07 am
kamal kar diya tariq sahab..koi to mila
September 11, 2012 5:06 pm
Nah you came back because you were called a Paki
Belal Malik
September 12, 2012 8:17 am
Miss Faiza. Your frustration speaks for the doubt about that part. But is this the solution to all this which has hurt you so much. Running away from will be termed as a very cowardly act. I also live in this mess you have pointed out at and raising 3 kids. every now and then it comes acrsoss my mind...what are we going to leave for our kids. So i try even harder. Instead of writing this letter to the Honorable PM of India, it would have been much better if you channted this letter standing at a busy crossing in Karachi. That would have moved some people and maybe sparked courage in few. that is what our society needs right now. The educated community of our society to come forward, instead of crying on these issues on their laptops and lounges. Has ever any mother disowned a rude, misbahving or disobedient child.....Never heard about it in my life time. Every society has its own problems, even indiain society has huge problems BUT THEY ARE FACING THEM WITH COURAGE......NOT LIKE YOU......Atleast now we know there are some mothers who will disown their child. You are one of them.
September 11, 2012 6:45 pm
very difficult choice between veena & faiza. Ham se aya na gaya, unse bulaya na gaya
September 10, 2012 9:40 am
Welcome to India, My sister
September 11, 2012 8:14 pm
Vijay : Thanks, that is what rest of us would like to suggest. Ms. Mirza get a visa, go to India & claim political asylum & live in that enchanted land .A dream come true for you.Leave your troubles behind for us - Most of us love Pakistan, no matter how difficult life is, we will endure.
September 12, 2012 2:42 am
I suggest you the same, you should try to help your nation by building a society and kids study based on co-existence and tolerance. Nation will definitely see better development after that.
September 11, 2012 8:11 pm
So, when are you moving to India, Faiza Mirza? Further, when are you posting this letter and please don't include my name while you may ask other Pakistanis before you become Messiah for them. Lasst but not least, do tell us your feelings after you have spent some time living in India. Since your I, you fellow Pakistani, may not be able to say good bye to you when you cross Atari, lemme say it now, Khuda Hafiz!
September 11, 2012 6:10 pm
Great Sentimental ideal and I would be all for it. But you have not seriously considered the inclusion of over 100 Million+ hard core religious fanatics who would bring the poison of hatred with them. And what about th ehate preaching illiterate Mullahas? India has it's own haters, Thank God too few to tear the fabric of the Republic but troublesome none the less. Why would you take a chance. More over, you can NEVER turn back the clock of History.
September 11, 2012 5:58 pm
No wonder why muslims and christians get attacked and killed in India from time to time. You mentality also proves how secular India is.
September 11, 2012 6:59 pm
you mean asylum seeker's culture journalism ?
Adeel Abbas
September 10, 2012 8:25 am
Spot on! Since i heard that Hindu minorities are being given assylum in India for their religious percecution, I realized that I would be eligible for the assylum on the same ground to the "SECULAR" India. As our former PM says "who is stopping them", I realized that my green passport was stopping me and even after that Rehman Malik was stopping us on the fear of migrating to India. Our "bad"- Luck is stopping us. Pakistan was not made for these religious extremists, and had it been made as per them, as today, I am against this two nation theory.
September 11, 2012 7:15 pm
An article representing the feeling of hopeless minorities of pakistan.
September 11, 2012 8:34 pm
i loved the article , wish the partition had never happened in the first place , i was , i am and i will always be for a unified india
September 11, 2012 4:58 pm
The government of the day has failed Pakistan, no doubt, but. if the writer thinks she will have a better life in a problematic country like India then a quicker way to get in is by bribing somebody at the lower level and not bother the Indian PM. She will be in India in no time but she has to make sure that she travels on a one way ticket.
Alam K
September 12, 2012 12:01 pm
Why can't you Indians mind your own business, read your Daily Papers, evidently not worth reading.If you are so concerned, sign a petition & ask Manmohan Singh to issue a visa to Ms.Mirza, you can have her.She has earned enough notoriety in Pakistan.
September 12, 2012 12:01 pm
really awesome
September 12, 2012 12:51 pm
Absolutly this is why pakistan is different from other nation.
September 10, 2012 8:20 pm
Ms.Mirza, I share your sentiments and appreciate what you have said about India. Radicals in Pakistan have done a great harm to your country and it will be an uphill task for the people of Pakistan to turn the tide. I am sure you that better than us. India on its part has its own challenges but it is definitely changing for are always welcome!! I hope with relaxed visa norms more people from Pakistan would be able to travel to India and vice versa and I am sure it will help build the bridges again.
September 11, 2012 5:54 am
Sheer exaggeration of issues at hand. Muslim masses do not want to expell minorities from Pakistan. No matter what happens, we will never leave our homeland. May Allah give us all the strength to make it a better place for all.
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 5:52 am
very well said.....great observation....
September 10, 2012 8:22 pm
What a shame that you did not understand the gist of the article and what a shame that you did not even give your name. As a Pakistani who has lived in England for 25 years, I would still love to return to Pakistan as I miss my birth city of Karachi so very much but can't for obvious reasons. Unless we admit what is wrong with Pakistan, we will never improve...
September 10, 2012 8:19 pm
And where do you read that? Please let us know what your reliable sources. I hope Zaid Hamid's talk shows are not one of the sources.
Laeeq, NY
September 10, 2012 7:54 pm
Poverty is acceptable but fear of ones life, property, forced conversion of religion and kidnapping is not acceptable. On top of Government's indifference to minorities is the worse which insecure them many folds than the regular Citizens of Pakistan.
Aslam Naseem
September 12, 2012 1:09 pm
A childish, amateurish blog - Pay no mind , forgive her for she does not know better.Send her a stamp to post the letter.
September 12, 2012 12:59 pm
Jinnah, jai ho from all indian for creating pakiland, the greatest achievement by a man in History
September 10, 2012 7:43 pm
I would take Indian nationality or even a residency before one can say, 'Zinda Bhaag'
Gary Sahi
September 10, 2012 7:45 pm
It takes courage to say what you've said, Faiza. I don't know how many people would realize that. May God bless you.
Azhar uddin (Lahore, Pak).
September 10, 2012 7:45 pm
Faiza M. - Good try, your piece is a self serving stunt. I am sure across the border, in India you will find plenty of buyers, not here in Pakistan. Already Indian press is busy spewing venom against Pakistan,your column gives them further encouragement. Under the freedom of expression, your employer DAWN knowingly gave you a forum to undermine our national sentiments.
Dr. M Baig
September 10, 2012 11:20 pm
I cannot believe Dawn published this article, it scorns the very roots of this country. Now that Pakistan is suffering under a hail of conspiracies and destabilised by countries in the region including India this woman wants to immigrate there. I still cannot believe Dawn has published this article. This is not freedom of the press.
September 10, 2012 11:17 pm
The Times used to be a stately newspaper of the caliber of the New York Times. It's degenerated to trash in the last decade.
September 10, 2012 11:16 pm
Faiza your point well taken. This article is nothing but a back hand slap on the face of Religious fundamentalist elements of Pakistan who in their retarded brains think they are doing a favor to Pakistan or Pakistanis. Food for though for my Pakistani religious group, 'You are nothing but a total embarrassment for Pakistan and Muslims around the world'.
September 10, 2012 11:14 pm
As an Indian, I'd welcome you and all Pakistanis with open arms to my homeland. You're a brother nation, and logistics aside, I agree that India should welcome your countrymen. However, I'd warn you that the grass is always greener on the other side... We've got our own lunatics roaming our streets and our own flavor of ineffective morons in power. Be well, be safe, wherever you go!
September 10, 2012 6:14 pm
The Author only knows about the Bollywood :)
Komal S
September 10, 2012 6:14 pm
So the establishment goes to their place of worship uninvited and knocks down a few things that they feel they should not use, they go to the graves of dead people and paint over their graves to hide so called islamic verses because they have no right as per your law. If you could systematically use legal and police forces to go after their way of worship, you are surprised that they feel discriminated and ill-treated. I am kind of surprised an average pakistani does not see this as going against the spirit of freedom to practice their faith.
taranveer singh
September 10, 2012 6:08 pm
Muslim rule of India was cruelest part of human history. except rule of akbar the great. it was rule when kazi ordered to burried alive 9 and 7 year old zoravar Singh and fateh Singh. Hindus were in extremely miserable condition in their own homeland
Akil Akhtar
September 10, 2012 11:53 pm
What kind of elite are we producing. the biggest problem with pakistan is not the Taliban but the elite who are utterly insincere with this country and question its existence all the time. Shameful..... These elite have done nothing for this country but criticise it...The biggest difference in india is their elite are the most nationalist and all the rest follow.
Abid Virk
September 10, 2012 6:03 pm
I have seen several headings in this news paper that concerned me about the loyalties of this News paper to Pakistan. Now after reading this article I am very concerned. Has any news paper in India ever allowed such article from Indian Muslims, especially Muslims from Jammu Kashmir to be published? Our nation is facing an international conspiracy and multiple groups in Pakistan are working on external agendas. We should work together to expose and fight those agents and elements instead of cutting the very roots of our country by such articles and headings.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 6:04 pm
I imagine she has gone to have a look around. Pakistanis hate any country with 'too much' freedom.They make the peasant slaves want to run off to Hollywood, Bollywood, Las Vegas and Piccadilly Circus.
September 10, 2012 11:41 pm
you must be jealous and fuming?? a typical pakistani attitude towards India, not surprized!
September 10, 2012 11:39 pm
I think the author is more smarter and knowledable than you and knows more than you about India! forget about human, even a dog will love to move from Pakistan to India,
Komal S
September 10, 2012 6:04 pm
Looks like you have forgotten Abdus Salam. Highly qualified to get nobel but left the country for the way the system treated the whole Ahmadi community.
Satish Sharma
September 10, 2012 11:36 pm
I have heard this from MANY Pakistani's on radio/tv talk shows. Ms. Mirza is the only one who has the guts to put her name to it; I am sure she will be last to avail the opportunity, but she is pointing out a real problem of Pakistan -- no one is secure. India has her faults .. and some people love to point out Gujrat -- but they should ask is there an FIR field for the murder of nearly 200 people in Karachi when Benazir landed? and the list very very very long.
September 10, 2012 11:36 pm
Faiza, we love you across your Eastern border, anytime you come to India be my guest, if 50% Pakistanis were like you, it would have been a differnt story altogether, hope sanity prevails with your fellow countrymen and women! the sooner they get rid of India obsession and jealousy the better it is for pakistan.
September 10, 2012 6:07 pm
COMEDY OF MILLANIUM... all indian muslims are standing in que in wagah border for thier turn to cross into pakistan... .
September 10, 2012 8:30 pm
@shakeel khan, do you Kashmir was last(during independence) ruled by a Hindu king??? do you know what happened to scores of Kashmiri Pundits and their families??? I agree that India do have few lunatics but less and countable when compared to what you have in Pakistan.
abdul qadir
September 10, 2012 5:56 pm
i agree with her... as a shia i must say this nation has become totally unsafe is a failed state
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 6:15 pm
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." -- Mark Twain
Zulfiqar Ali Syed
September 10, 2012 6:16 pm
Amazing, such people manage to get a place to hurt the sentiments of Pakistani citizens, Yes we have problems, yes we have issues, yes, we have failures, but yes we have courage to fight it, and we will make our country safe and progressing, like rat, many can chose to run away, and those who have guts will sacrifies and put things right. I am in for fight, like any other pakistani, question is whether you are
September 10, 2012 11:06 pm
I hope Ms. Mirza was speaking tongue in cheek. Ms. Mirza is well advised to visit India first to see first hand. Here in north America I have lived both in Canada and USA. The people here share the same race, language, religion, food, dress, culture, economic system, yet no two people are more different than each other. Canadians like Law and Order Democracy, where American prefer individual Freedom and Republic. In fact these are the very two things that divide Indians and Pakistanis. India is civilized, democratic, but a class society that seeks law and order. But Pakistanis love freedom and hate government. India is a Democracy, like UK and Canada, while Pakistan is a Republic as are all Muslim countries, France, PRC and USA. Jinnah recognized that Muslims could not live under the system that Nehru preferred. We in Canada have fought many wars with the US - in fact we burned down the White House in 1812. But today we have the most porous border in the world. India and Pakistan, while recognizing to be different in psyche should attempt to do the same. Running away across the fence is not the answer for the grass is never greener on the other side.
taranveer singh
September 10, 2012 6:20 pm
it is Pakistan who is getting financial support from other countries not India. it gets billions of dollars frm USA and ksa . India is a big aid provider to other countries like African nations or Bangladesh. India provides big money to IMF. search and correct yourself
Jiten Maurya
September 10, 2012 6:21 pm
Why do u always compare yourselves with India? Compare with USA, France , .. who are more successful not only in prosparity but also in humanity.
September 10, 2012 6:22 pm
I am all for reflection and constructive self-criticism, however I Believe Pakistani Liberal’s need to gain some perspective. Religious fundamentalism, ethnic strife, weak and corrupt central governments are not unique to Pakistan. They exist in most developing, post colonial states including India. The ‘progressive’ India which Faiza describes is a fictional entity which exists only in the idealised ramblings of Gandhi and ‘India shining’ campaigns. India’s secular traditions are skin dep. They have evolved, been damaged by communal riots are under attack by the surge of Hindutva. Nehruvian socialism is dead and poverty stark. Perhaps we should we send Pakistani Christian’s to Odissa, Ahmadis back to Qadian? Shiv Sena would surely welcome a surge of Pakistani Muslim’s to Mumbai. Hindu nationalist are already worried about Muslim population growth. They would gladly accept us if we all converted to Hinduism. Now that is tolerance, the Hindutva way. My family like millions migrated to Pakistan and we would never go back to India. We have a duty to loyalty and struggle to improve condition not to run opportunistically to a hostile and unwelcoming nation.
September 10, 2012 6:22 pm
Mrs Mirza you can leave pakistan, we want to get rid of people like you, Pakistan doesnt need you. People like you give bad name to Pakistan, the only difference between you and a terrorist is that they use gun and you use a Pen (or a keyboard)
September 10, 2012 10:56 pm
This is truly sad Faiza. I hope you are going to a country more welcoming. With all its faults, what is great about India is its pluralism. No single Group holds all the cards and hence, the only way forward is by 'live and let live'. There is very little doubt that hundreds of Shias being blown up daily in Pakistan do not face a similar fate in India. It is impossible to create a nation through enforced commanality and pakistan is a case in point. Simply creating a nation by being an Islamic State, immediately precludes non-muslims and further,non-Sunnis. In India, a Tamil Muslim President, who speaks fluent Sanskrit became the head of the Space Organization. This can only happen because of the secular nature of India, which has served the country well. Twenty years ago nobody would have said that India's GDP would reach 1.8 Trillion. I am sure Dr. Singh has read your plea Faiza and India will welcome you there
September 10, 2012 6:28 pm
I can afford to give oneway ticket to India to any one living in Pakistan, author is not exempt. The problem with Pakistanis, they do not understand their rights. Freedom and rights are not free anywhere, you have to fight for.
September 10, 2012 10:55 pm
I think everyone is missing the point. It is a rhetorical piece of work and that is how it should be seen. All those crticising the poor girl should just answer this one question: Why would anyone want to live in a country where they can be pulled of a bus, or stopped on the road and shot to death because of their name or religious belief. What motivation would anyone have to live in a country where it is an every day affair for mobs to beat people to death and nothing is done about it? And why would anyone want to be a part of a socient where murderes proclaim in front of the highest court, of killing hundreds of innocent people and are let go. Faiza's article should have provoked thought instead of a reflex reaction from every one. Please accept it that Pakistan is not only a failed country but also a failed society!!!!
An Indian in Delhi
September 10, 2012 6:28 pm
1) Despite what you read in the papers, Pakistani Hindus are not welcome in India. They only serve their purpose for political point scoring. Good for India, hopefully good for the prosecuted Hindus, not good for Pakistan as a nation. 2) Good news is that your application will not be rejected due to your religion. Instead, it will be rejected due to your nationality(without other redeeming qualities that is). 3) To other Pakistani friends, who are angry at poor Ms. Faiza for being a quitter. You fools, that letter is not really addressed to Manmohan Singh. She knows that it is not going to be read by him. Guess who it is intended for. Hint: Check the readership of the newspaper it is published in.
Ram Krishan Sharma
September 10, 2012 6:29 pm
Well said Mr. Feroz . Totally agree with you that once we were one and the same people. Faiza is most welcomed in India like any other Pakistani Hindu .
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 10:52 pm
To dream the impossible dream To fight the unbeatable foe To bear with unbearable sorrow To run where the brave dare not go. To right the unrightable wrong To be better far than you are To try when your arms are too weary To reach the unreachable star This is my quest, to follow that star, No matter how hopeless, no matter how far To be willing to give when there’s no more to give To be willing to die so that honor and justice may live And I know if I’ll only be true to this glorious quest That my heart will lie peaceful and calm when I’m laid to my rest
Madhu Shanmughan
September 10, 2012 6:31 pm
Atif, I agree with you. Each one of us should try to improve the situation in our own country - be it India, Pakistan or any other country in the world. And it makes it much easier to succeed if people of India and Pakistan cooperate more as citizens of two independent countries with a common heritage.
September 10, 2012 6:34 pm
why not spell out the community? Indian ruling elite (left over of East India Company - Divide and Rule) is allowing Muslims to have more say than secular Indian civilizational ethos (read Hindu). Author who is trying to run away from pure Islam or Arab culture may find it in many places of India. You will be able to enjoy your freedom if you are in majority Hindu areas, but you might not have that freedom if you are in Kashmir valley, MallamPuram, Kerala or some districts of Assam.
Ali Niazi
September 10, 2012 10:46 pm
During the elections this time around, leave your home along with your family and vote. Also if the elections are not fair then stand up for it, get out on the streets and do whatever it takes to get rid of the corrupt leadership. After all Egypt did it. It can be done.
Shaukat USA
September 10, 2012 10:45 pm
Excellent analysis by you. A very well written article.
p kumar
September 10, 2012 6:36 pm
i have written in dawn's readers responses before and i write again that shia are welcome in india.india are the second largest shia nation after iran and also have friendly ties with iran.pakistan is a homeland for subcontinent's muslims.saudi arabia is a second home for them as per king of saudi arabia.muslims anywhere in the world have dozens of countries who will accept them but where do hindus go if not to india.
Syed Kazmi
September 10, 2012 10:42 pm
I am sure Faiza you got the attention you wanted by your article. Shows our collective frustration. I do not agree to your approach, but I am glad Dawn publishes the view of all. People migrate to US, Canada, Australia, and so many places in the world. Why write a letter to Indian PM only? I know things are not that great in Pakistan, and it frustrating for many of us, but as Quaid said - "Musalmaan museebat mey ghabraya nahi kartay"- and listen to Asad Muhammed Khan's poetry sang by Shahnaz begum - "Mauj bharhe ya aandhi aye - diya jalaye rakhna hai - Ghar ki khatir 100 dukh jhele, ghar to aakhir apna hai". Think of those Palestinians who do not have a land to call their own or the Rohinga's in Burma, or the East Pakistanis in camps who have lived all their life waiting to get to Pakistan since 1971.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 10:35 pm
"I fear you have put your life in danger by writing this article." It is OK. She doesn't mind.
September 10, 2012 6:39 pm
Even after partition on religious grounds,millions of muslims opted for & remained in India. So even though most Indians recognise a souverin Pakistan,i feel that the process of partition never finished. So from the bottom of our hearts,pakistan is our own land as is India. No nation could b dearer to us than Pakistan but for the policy drafters.India as the mainland should do watever possible to give the citizens (residents of Pakistan)a better life. Bcoz no matter hindus or muslims,had they opted for India in 1947,they would have been Indian citizens now. But any exodus of migration should b scrutinized to stop radicals .
September 10, 2012 10:32 pm
give me one example person moved from India to pakistan
September 10, 2012 10:34 pm
so u mean to say there are opportunities in India?
p kumar
September 10, 2012 6:40 pm
gujrat and maharashtra are not all of india.lucknow and hyderabad are large centres of shia culture and shia are completely safe in india.
Ess Aar
September 10, 2012 6:40 pm
I had the misfortune of reading the entire article, hoping there would be some sort of a cynical "payoff" at the end. As there wasn't one so my first reaction is "What the bloody hell!" I had to say this twice: once at the temerity of this writer and her misplaced sense of national propriety and secondly, at the gall of this newspaper to publish such gibberish. Granted there are problems that presently seem unsurmountable but just about every nation worth its salt has gone through some sort of a national upheaval at one or many points throughout their history and Pakistan is certainly no exception. I believe this "Aman Ki Aasha," while certainly a good thing, is being pushed a bit too far and only one-sidedly. It has unfortunately clouded the judgement and fortitude of many a Pakistani.
September 10, 2012 6:39 pm
Great article. Good to see at least some people have courage to speak about the facts instead of being blinded by so called 'patriotism'
Komal S
September 10, 2012 6:44 pm
Please note Islam came to India through traders even before the moghuls. Parsis came to India before the moghuls came to India. Similarly christianity came long before Moghuls and British came. India has embraced people of different faith. Last i checked Kashmir is a Shia majority state, you may want to check where they would feel safer. By the way, Kashmir was ruled by a Hindu Maharajah during independence.
p kumar
September 10, 2012 6:44 pm
really? when harassed hindus were leaving a month ago,your interior minister stopped them until they gave a written declaration they will return.would you let people come for will you not be concerned about loss of face
Ali Niazi
September 10, 2012 10:21 pm
Well said brother
p kumar
September 10, 2012 6:45 pm
no india isn't but pakistan was supposed to be a safe heaven for all muslims
September 10, 2012 10:20 pm
This is bizzarre! She simply needed to be in Gujarat, her dream place of safety and civilization. during Modi progrom and neither Pakistan nor India would probably not been worring about her any more. If this is not self hating, what else is? Ask those minority Muslims of Gujarat about the safety they enjoyed and they will tell you what safety is all about. Ghosh! If Pakistan is a hell, India is no heaven either - it is just the degree of difference! It is strange to compare India with Pakistan. Pakistan started from the scratch while India strated with an India with all infrastructure and treasury. Nation building is not an easy job and Pakistan is still in transition - much as many African nations are who started with no established state mechanism.
September 10, 2012 12:46 pm
Dreaming!!!!!Here you finished everything.........
September 10, 2012 10:14 pm
Well.. this proves that apart from Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias.... there is another community trembling in its pants.. the moderates!!
September 10, 2012 6:51 pm
Faiza Mirza, leave Pakistan immediately and go to India. People like you are not needed in Pakistan. India commits atrocities against Muslims especially in Kashmir. India also commits atrocities against Christians, Dalits and other Minority People like the tribal people. If that India is good for you than Get Out from Pakistan right now. The problems of Pakistan regarding harassing and torturing Christians, Shias and Hindus are unacceptable, but that do not say India is better country in terms of minority treatment. India's minority treatment is the worst in the world. The best way you could have loved your country by writing to scrap the Blasphemy law, abolishing the Feudal system in your country which would improve the Pakistan's Economy, strong punishment for corruption and ways to end corruption, emphasizing Economic growth of Pakistan, protection of Shias, Christians, Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan and lastly taking out arms from regular people, tribal people and Balochi people so those can not be used to kill regular Pakistani citizens. I am sure Faiza Mirza is a product of Feudal system who does not know any thing about patriotism and how a country should work for the betterment of all the people irrespective of their religion. I am from Bangladesh and I hope my Pakistani friends will show Faiza Mirza the door so she can leave Pakistan instead of giving a very bad color to Pakistan to please the RSS of India. Hasan Bangladesh
September 10, 2012 6:59 pm
So, you mean to say, only muslims are "People of Pakistan"? There are so many variables in your "Genuinely talented, hardworking and good muslims" that I am loosing my mind trying to figure out all the permutations and combinations to define a pakistani...
September 10, 2012 7:00 pm
it's a good idea on paper, but what's the guarantee that the migrated souls would not turn India into another Manchester or Bradfor.
Imran B.
September 10, 2012 7:00 pm
What Faiza has written is the truth. Most Pakistanis who belong to the middle class and poor working classes would love to leave at the first opportunity given. Once abroad, we can be very patriotic for Pakistan (Just like our ruling class families). Good Luck Faiza. Imran B. Texas,USA
Malik Assani
September 10, 2012 9:56 pm
Almost all indians are readily and instantly welcoming any Pakistanis who defect with open arms...only because of their utmost hatred & opposition for Pakistan. Now, Has anyone of you the permission of Vishva Hindu Parisad, Mr. Advani or his BJP or that moron Bal Thackrey to do so. Thackrey went so far as to re-paint a train station which was painted green, as if green colour only represents muslims. LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
September 10, 2012 7:05 pm
What a joke. As an Indian, let me assure you: We have enough problems of our own and our priority is the safety and well being of our 1.2 billion citizens. We couldn't care less about your problems, in light the fact that we can barely take care of our own.
September 10, 2012 9:52 pm
I am really sad the way writer show her frustration being Pakistani, Instead of fighting for progressive Pakistan she is running away what a shame. At least if you cant show the courage to fight for 180 million Pakistani inhabited in this land please dont write on the behalf of us. We will fight and we will progress and the day will come you will feel regret for writing this article.
September 10, 2012 9:52 pm
Look at the picture of the Pakistani passport. "Islamic Republic of Pakistan". They gave more importance to religion than the state and reaping the fruits of it. When Pakistan becomes "Republic of Pakistan" and the religion becomes a private affair, all these issues will be resolved. Till then it will be "Banana republic of Pakistan"
September 10, 2012 9:49 pm
You mean one less person to persecute
Rashid M
September 10, 2012 7:09 pm
I will stop reading Dawn from today as my mark of protest against a deliberate attempt to malign Pakistan based on a false premise and presenting it as truth.
Ali Z.
September 11, 2012 1:00 pm
I think Faiza will be the first one to move to India.... This is ax excerpt from another article about 9/11 memories from Please read on....India will always be arch enemy (and probably vice versa).... Excerpt: But the decision makers of the country were concerned specifically over the (intelligence) reports when “we were given information that India has offered free access to its bases to Americans for hitting Pakistan.” “We (Pakistanis) were being declared by the Indians as the real problem behind every terror attack taking place across the globe” he continued. “Later we had to put all our forces — Army, Navy and the Air Force, on high-alert after perceiving a threat from India,” Gen Rashid maintained.
September 11, 2012 5:05 pm
Yes , you are indeed right Faisal. Looking inwards is telling us that there is now time for Sindhudesh and Baluchistan republic. Punjab and NWFP can still exist as one country if we wish to
September 10, 2012 7:12 pm
As a rule I tend to like this columnist's work but this is going too far! Ms. Mirza, if you want to leave, then for heaven's sake, leave!!
September 10, 2012 7:12 pm
To those Pakistanis caught up in their righteous fury: LOL. Yeah, we have problems, but at least our people know about them. You keep secret the body bags coming out of Balochistan. In addition, while communal discord is widespread in India, I can thankfully say that we don't have a LAW (i.e. one passed by our democratically elected legislature) that actively discriminates against minorities such as your so-called Blasphemy Law. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that the Government and society of India (messed up though they are) don't actively persecute 14 year old girls suffering from Down's Syndrome merely because of their religious beliefs.
aditya kaushik
September 10, 2012 7:13 pm
we the indians which have a population of 125 crs......will welcome u mam......u have a respect for the indians on the basis of facts.......ya i agree by many people that india have some problems but one thing more ....the people of india(hindu,muslim,shikh,cristian) is living the most peaceful life in the world(exceptions r every very). & india is the country were .......president-->>>pranab mukhrji (hindu), vice-president--->>>hamid ansari (muslim) minister---->>>manmohan singh (sikha).......defence minister----->>>> a.k antony(cristian)......india have given voice to all the the minority(many are cabinet ministers) in parliament......we respect pakistan & want a developed & litterrate pakistan ...........we believe in positivity & peace
September 10, 2012 9:32 pm
Inspite of the patriotic comments by many Pakistanis, the embassies are mobbed by the visa seekers to leave the rocking boat! Just an observation.
September 10, 2012 7:16 pm
haha which people want to leave India, your misguided my friend. If that was the case there would be a long Q after all the riots. Indians are Indians they will stay put and fight.
September 10, 2012 9:32 pm
I am not sure from where Mr. Rao got his impressions from about Christians in Kerala. I live in Kerala and a Christian but I haven't met anyone who wants to leave Kerala because of crime, or because they don't like India. There are many who leaves Kerala to look for Jobs. And you know what they do: They send a lot of money back home to India which helps others in India. In that sense the Indian Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc. are on the same boat as the Hindus. You really need some reality check.
September 10, 2012 7:19 pm
Yes, Pakistan is wolld's GREATEST Nation. May be then that all the Muslims of India and Bangladesh should migrate to Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 7:20 pm
It may look nice to present balanced thought, but it is not true. Millions in India want to leave for Pakistan -really ? Yes, there are economic migrants everywhere in the world. But the situation identified in the article is different. Faiza is expressing a deeper anguish and it is not that she wants to really leave , which you have failed to grasp. You have a valid point, but it is so easy to profess idealism from the sidelines.
September 10, 2012 9:27 pm
christians of kerala wanting to leave? Please check your facts Mr. rao, wherever you are from- they are one of the most communities in india, highly respected and well represented in the highest levels in indian politics, civil and army services.. And do you think the shias of kashmir will be happy in pakistan, going by pakistans track record of treatment of shias my sunnis??
September 10, 2012 7:20 pm
I would certainly never glorify bunch of terrorists proclaiming to be Muslims and inflicting misery to among others fellow Muslims in name of their holy war, at the same time I will never endorse this ideology of progressiveness advocated by a bunch of do-haves controlling Pakistani media and spewing the corrupt western ideologies. Terrorists are enemies one can easily identify but these progressive elements are a bigger danger to the Islamic ideology and very existence of Pakistan, unless you want Pakistan to be another satellite state of the west.
September 10, 2012 7:25 pm
Shakeel, you are so wrong. There are many hundred thousands of Muslims in the higher echelons in India. Just for a openers, India has had 4 Muslim Presidents. How many Shias, Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis have reached the top pinnacles of Pakistan society? I challenge you to do a little bit of research before making sweeping statements.
September 10, 2012 7:26 pm
At least Pakistan is ahead of India in some sense, other than producing more terrorists. Pakistan Zindabad.Long live Zia Ideoligy fathered generation.
p kumar
September 10, 2012 8:17 pm
why do they have to leave.many pakistanis have dual citizenship.can they not live in pakistan with an overseas citizenship of india(OCI)
September 10, 2012 7:52 pm
Dont forget that India is only looking better by default, nothing else.
Prashant Soni (@sonicreation)
September 11, 2012 11:20 am
A great Ironic article,I am speechless as having so intense love for her nation but expressed a common people's pain so strongly. This is Great,I am amazed while reading this article my eyes got wet.Now,I read many articles written by greatest writer whom,i came across you are really a person send by God the way feel poor and common people's issues are just greatest way one could. "May GOD bless you more courage and strength to achieve greater height in your future life"but I have a fear also that in our society (It may be in where in the globe).Good people face problems as they speaks against please do take care. God bless whole world peace,love, prosperity !! Love to all, One common people.
September 10, 2012 7:27 pm
Wow, very perceptive, especially the line, "in Pakistan the State is the aggressor and the citizen the victim, in India the citizens are the aggressors and the State the victim". It is unfortunate that so few rationalize and are enlightened about the actual situation in Pakistan as compared to a young writer like Faiza. Whatever the situation, the Pakistani ego will accept moving to anywhere except to India. We can easily see hordes of people here likening the minority situation in India to Pakistan, without referring to unbiased, International media about the same..
September 10, 2012 9:18 pm
I think if i had to leave my country (which i dont want to because i want to make my home (Pakistan) a better place) i would atleast try for a non 3rd world country and where people dont get slaughtered for their religion or ethnicity, the list can go on. I would only like to say people who want to leave should, as they dont consider Pakistan as their home and would be doing all of us Pakistanis a huge favour
September 11, 2012 11:20 am
Two thumbs up. Pakistan deteriorated into a failed state a long time ago. Everyone who can, should migrate - this is no way of life.
September 10, 2012 7:30 pm
September 10, 2012 7:31 pm
Dear Rameez, Atleast the author of this blog is pointing towards the problem (although in a very sarcastic way). After reading many comments it seems that majority of us dont recognize the problem. This blog reminds us of one urdu shair: Jis khet se dehqan ko mayassar na ho rozi ..... os khet ke har kho sha e gandam ko jalado. Please try to understand the sarcasm in the blog and atleast accept the problem.
September 10, 2012 7:31 pm
I see a lot of comments about the Gujarat riots here, not just in response to this article but in response to every article that mentions India's secularism. To all those people around the world who are convinced that the Gujarat riots were a pogrom and not a series of clashes between two religious groups in a highly charged environment (charged because a bunch of Muslim fanatics burnt a train coach carrying what they thought were a bunch of Hindu fanatics) I have this to say- Go through the two links below, they have some statistics The first one is a BBC write up about the death toll in the riots, the second one is the wikipedia article about Gujarat's demographics. Please read them and corroborate. Why don't you compare the ratio of perpetrator to victims from both communities and see who was more violent?? India is, was and always will be a secular nation, of course there will be strife, both ethnic and religious, that is unavoidable in any geographical region inhabited by more than one ethnic/religious group. Every multicultural society has faced such problems, be it the former Soviet republics or the Balkans or even the west, where race relations are still a very real and grave issue. A nations secular credentials come to the fore with how it deals with such conflicts, the speed with which the affected populace is brought back to the main stream. The legislation that offers its vulnerable classes the option of legal recourse and above all the willingness of the people to compromise and get on with their lives. Given this context people must decide for themselves what they want to believe in, then try and justify their views with data and statistics. This whole (predominantly Pakistani) game of one-upmanship is a little passe now. Strive to work hard, pay taxes, follow traffic rules and keep your faith to yourself, thats what we all need to strive for irrespective of our faith and nationality. Besides given the context of Ms Mirza's article we shouldn't even be bad mouthing each other in the first place. Introspect people and then act responsibly. Much love from India. God bless us all.
September 10, 2012 7:32 pm
Great writing,you deserve for accolade .
September 10, 2012 7:33 pm
Dear Pakistani friends, The critics of Faiza have failed to notice the spirit behind her article. she is certainly not going to migrate to India, but wants to expose, in a different way, her country's plight to her own citizens & provoke them to think differently. if her article has provoked you & dusted up your hatred for those who want to desert your country at this critical juncture, she, as a mature journalist & a patriotic Pakistani, has succeeded in her efforts. kudos to Faiza.
September 10, 2012 9:14 pm
Really ! I think govt is not bothered about any one ! How does anyone minus one would matter ! Be it India or Pakistan govt ! But I am sure there is considerable amount of leniency in Indian society then Pakistani one .You can accept or leave it in denial :)
September 11, 2012 5:04 pm
I don't agree with Singh's Pakistani Hindu appeasement policy. We already have enough trouble giving shelters to refugees from Bangladesh, Sril Lanka etc. I am sure Pakistanis are the worst kinds as has been proved countless number of times. We are happy with our own people, Hindus, Muslims and many others.
September 10, 2012 9:12 pm
I don't think that India can remain unified as one country in future!
September 12, 2012 12:56 pm
why not widen our boundaries to make way for new people?or make a new state and settle every one over there.
N. Mohan
September 10, 2012 1:15 pm
The problem is that nobody is marketing "Progressive" aggressively in Pakistan....even among muslim countries Pakistan is (or is it already was) more progressive. But whereas other muslim nations appeared to be changing direction to the positive side, Pakistan has been forced (engineered by the agencies) to move in the opposite direction. There are signs that things are turning for the better. All the best is critical that your security agencies realize that they are playing with the future of about 180 million people whose futures are severely being compromised.
Asad Hyder, Ph.D.
September 10, 2012 11:25 pm
Mr. Ali, You must not have read today's Dawn either. The car bomb that killed ten people and injured over forty. Their only fault was that they were Shias. This is happening EVERY DAY. If this is the country you think is a haven, you are not living in this world!
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:02 am
truth at times can be 'utterly shameful and disgusting'...but it still remains the truth.
September 10, 2012 10:05 pm
Indian economy, size, clout, population, military, power and every other aspect is bigger than than the 20 muslim countries put togather. We dont need an oic to make world listen to us, when India talks the world listens carefully.
M. Ali
September 10, 2012 11:55 pm
Ms. Mirza, Please let the healing begin. If you or your family has suffered because of the religious bigotry, do not forget that most every nation has gone through terrible civil wars, holocaust, massacres, ethnic/religious cleaning etc. Most Indian Muslims/Christians are loyal to India even after they were treated terribly in the past. The Indian government took the corrective actions and most minorities forget the past and become patriotic citizens with hope. I see most educated Pakistanis have already diagnosed the disease of our country and I believe, we are on the right track to become Jinnah's Pakistan again. Inshallah!!!
September 10, 2012 5:52 pm
And Umer, you read beyond Zaid Hamid! lol ;-)
September 10, 2012 5:53 pm
There are problems everywhere and remember no country is is duty of citizen to make it perfect. Stay back try to bring change in socitey and do not run away from problems
taranveer singh
September 10, 2012 5:50 pm
what about 93000 paksitani soldiers who surrendered to india and became prisoners in 1971 war? why they surrendered instead of die
September 11, 2012 11:15 am
Faiza, If given a chance, 99% of the people who have commented above would emigrate from Pakistan. The anger is only because the letter is addressed to Indian Prime Minister. If it was to Steven Harper, or for that matter any arab state ruler, there would not have been any voices. These people are hypocrites. Everybody (except a few who either don't have the means or the capacity to think) still like to stay back. You see almost on a daily basis people getting out of Pakistan by all illegal means. There are thousands and thousands of applications pending for immigration to canada, UK, Australia etc. People should read this article as a cry out of utter frustation and not out of choice.
aseem chaudry
September 10, 2012 5:46 pm
Ok the muslims from India...and see if they will come to your holy land!
September 11, 2012 12:07 am
Truth is a bitter pill indeed. Yes India has problems too but remember minorities are actually thriving in India despite periodic hiccups. Issues between majority and minority Indians are like what happens in a big joint family. Issues flare up, common sense prevails and relations resume. In Pakistan there is persistent assault on minorities and their numbers are dwindling contrary to India where numbers are going up. That is the real test and India passes that with flying colours
September 11, 2012 12:14 am
Is "blasphemy law", a creation of state or the so called "others"?
Haider Bukhari
September 10, 2012 5:45 pm
Ms Faiza, I am very sad on your patriotism and nationality!!! No sincere Pakistni or any other national can think so to settle him/herself in the enemy's country. By enemy I really don't mean that India is still our enemy the CBMs established between India and Pak are good steps, but these are still the steps and a long distance has to be covered in this direction. Every country has these problems, you look at 1st and 2nd world countries with Pak, please compare Pak with 3rd world countries then you will know that Pak is much better. If democracy flourishes in Pak evrything would be OK in few years, its my belief. Thanks.
September 11, 2012 12:09 am
Yes. not just hindus, but christians, sikhs, buddhists and zohrashtrians are also equally welcome in India.
September 10, 2012 5:44 pm
Please take some more from India and be the highest populated muslim will do an enormous service to your holy land.
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 12:22 am
The Author would be in jail for writing an article like this, if she was in India, I think she only knows about Bollywood, Pakistan is still 1000 times better than India for muslims, there is too much racism there.
September 11, 2012 12:29 am
My colleagues from India here in Canada have a simplistic idea of difference between India and Pakistan. They can not understand why we two who share the same race, food, dress, culture, language would not want to live together under one roof. I invoke Art and Bollywood to explain the difference between between Muslims and Hindus, Pakistan and India. I tell my Indian friends of my age (mid-60s) that in the seminal year of 1947, Shaukat Hussain Rizvi came out with Jugnu, a film that best depicted the Indian Hindu middle class of its time. Then Indian Directors had the likes of Awara, Shree 420, Mother India, Madhumati, all 1950s blockbusters. I remind them that Muslims will never want to live in a society that these movies depicted, that does not give women freedom to choose, or in a society that has such ingrained injustices. That is not to say that Pakistan is heaven by comparison, but there is qualitative difference between social justice, or status of woman in society, never mind the Law on paper. Pakistanis would never want to live in a society that has caste system, never mind Pakistani’s own mild version of the same. I encourage Pakistanis and Indians to visit each other's countries, and learn to appreciate the difference, and reflect on where it can lead to. Let us live in peace. To each his own.
September 11, 2012 11:13 am
Umar In comparison to Pakistan, the human rights are way better. If you ask Indian muslims, they do face bias, but would not want to return to Pakistan where they will face more bias, more terrorist attacks and complete lack of jobs and law and order. Yes India has its problems, but Pakistan is a much bigger mess-- and that is what this article brings out.I am sorry to say to the author that Manmohan Singh is not responsible for whole of Pakistan. Frankly, if he was, things would be better than 'Gilani Rule" . Education, health-care, freedom of press, technology, -- India is way ahead of Pakistan.Really, look around and be open to learning from those around you -- objectivity is not a known trait of Pakistan. I think we are the same people in so many ways -- origins were the same for India and Pakistan -- but the paths we chose to walk are so different.
September 11, 2012 12:23 am
Hi All, Kindly do not judge a book by its cover. Do not judge this article from the obvious expression that may come from it (i.e. 'author prefers/wants to live in India over Pak.'), Instead read between the lines and understand the point she is making about the need for Pakistanis to wake up and take responsibility of their own country and accept our own failures instead of blaming leaders and fundamentalists or running away from the country (like myself). Also if you read deeper between the lines she has answered a question about people seeking asylum in India (or any other place in the world). Kind Regards,
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 12:42 am
I would suggest author, you better migrate to Iran than India.
September 10, 2012 5:19 pm
Just curious how you "worry" about people of Pakistan. Like how you worry about Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias, or any of the other groups mentioned in the article?
September 11, 2012 1:22 am
Dear Writter you are free to leave Pakistan at any time. As for me, I am proudly Pakistan that has no hate for India and wishes to see the Legacy of Jinnah be-born where everyone is FREE TO VISIT THEIR TEMPLES, THEIR PLACES OF WORSHIP, and where religion has no bearing on government. As for the notion that India is better off than Pakistan or that minorities are better off in EITHER nation it's absurd as neither has even begun to treat its minorities fairly. Just because in two indian cities people appear to be free doesn't hold true for 80% of their other regions. I don't need to go into details just GOOGLE some facts yourself. As for Pakistan, it seems we treat our Sikh Pilgrims better than the Sikhs and Hindus that actually live here and it's high time that EVERYONE is safe and free in Pakistan as well as India.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 5:20 pm
Group A: "We can't do anything about it." Group B: "We won't do anything about it."
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 1:15 am
Mrs Author, be a loyal Pakistani first than something else(Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi, etc)
September 11, 2012 11:36 am
Very funny. You must not be reading the news India jailing of a cartoonist and a university professor.
September 11, 2012 1:14 am
Mr. Jinnah should have taken the advice of Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. But it is too late. The youth of Pakistan still has the key to bring Pakistan back on the track. We are confident that we can do it. They should stand against the fanatics solidly. There would be lot of hurdles on their way but I am sure they will win.
September 10, 2012 5:22 pm
dude .. did u find all theses things in any part of the world.... no country is perfect but there are better countries to live. like JAPAN,USA, INDIA... ...
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 1:10 am
Mr, Asad please dont play Shia Sunni card here, more than 60,000 pakistanis have lost thier lives in terrorist attacks in last few years, 99% of them were Sunnis. Please be Pakistani first then something else.
Mustafa Kidwai
September 10, 2012 5:25 pm
Hi Like most things with Pakistanis (and Indians) , this letter is written from an emotional standpoint rather than a practical one. Do India and Pakistan have resources to grant jobs, food, shelter, education to asylum seekers? It would also be political suicide for the government. If I am living below or on edge of the poverty line , I would want my government to put my house in order before bringing others in , regardless of their religion, caste, ethnicity. I have yet to come across some one who would willingly die of hunger and let someone else live just because they are of same race, caste and even religion. Even in countries like UK where I live, the arguments against asylum seekers are rarely about race. They are always about impact on Jobs, Housing, Health Services. I feel the author has taken the sensationalist approach to highlight what may be legitimate issues, but the solution she has proposed is not practical.
Z Khan
September 10, 2012 5:25 pm
Ms Mirza you and your newspaper got the hits in abundance to please your readers from across the border. Now I will give you my piece of mind along with the 180 million other Pakistanis. I take a severe offence when some ignorant westerner even remotely equate Pakistan with India and I make an immediate effort to correct him/her. I am proud to be a Pakistani. All the great nations have gone through tough times in their history and Pakistan is no different. If you feel an urge to migrate to India, please do so immediately but dont speak on behalf of the rest of Pakistan as nobody has given you the right to speak on their behalf.
September 11, 2012 1:07 am
Well said Anant. Indian government should consider this for all persecuted people and not just Hindu's. It is a difficult time to be a minority or evan a moderate Muslim in Pakistan at this give point in time.
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 1:07 am
Gita, for your information in last 8 years people who were killed in terrorist attacks in Pakistan were 99% Sunnis not Shia. Still more Sunnis are being killed in terrorist blast than Shias.
A Pakistani
September 11, 2012 1:04 am
Mrs Faiza, you better go to Iran than India.
ajmal salim khan
September 11, 2012 1:01 am
Yes, Pakistan has huge problems , and it needs to get its house in order, but for any person who wants to migrate to India, kindly read "Sachar Commission" report published by Indian government that how racisim of the worst kind still today persisits in India and how prejudiced India is towards minorities especially Muslims...Of course there are good Indians as well.
September 11, 2012 12:53 am
thats why you are layman
September 10, 2012 5:33 pm
Pakistan is a failed state and there is no doubt about it.
September 11, 2012 10:52 am
how many Hindus are in Pakistan?? 1% of total population maybe, so does it makes any difference to anyone whether they leave or stay?? Think about it Parveen Kumar or your mind works at pace of Parveen Kumar.
Abdullah K. Niazi
September 10, 2012 5:31 pm
I thought a day would never come when a Pakistani would be asking Indian Prime minister for help.Admittedly, we are going through tough times but it is a passing phase,country unfortunately is being ruled by most incompetent individual who is exclusively absorbed in his vested interests but that does not mean we as a nation are so desperate as to ask next door neighbour to rescue us. Daily Dawn is doing disservice to the nation by publishing articles which undermine our national interest and invite unsolicited comments from our Indian neighbours. Friends like them, who needs enemy ? If MS.Mirza finds the room smokey, doors are open, why doesn't she leave.
September 11, 2012 1:32 am
Not only at the cover of the Pakistani passport. Inside the cover your religon is stated!!! So much for religon being a persona affair!!!
September 10, 2012 5:16 pm
I dont know what you are drinking, but to think people from India want to migrate to Pakistan is seriously false. US, Europe etc, but never Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 5:14 pm
Always blame the messenger! You cannot hear the angst and anguish in Ms. Mirza's voice? Pakistan is being run by a bunch of religious bigots and there is no chance of improvement unless we fix this situation. To lose someone like Ms. Mirza to India or any other country would be such a shame. Lets change our evil ways and make everyone (even Hindus and Christians) at home in their own country - yes, in Pakistan
Kandan Venkataraman
September 11, 2012 1:37 am
look at your self in the mirror
September 11, 2012 1:39 am
"Hatred is like acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured, in this case think good of other country & not shit
September 11, 2012 10:54 am
Still we are better in cricket than you guys:)
September 11, 2012 1:40 am
I wish to see pakistan giving citizenship to indian muslims & how many will take up
Adeeb Khan
September 10, 2012 5:09 pm
This is an expected commotion from the liberals minded Pakistanis like her. In other words I have no respect for her thoughts.
Adeeb Khan
September 10, 2012 5:10 pm
True and well calculated comment. I like it
September 11, 2012 1:43 am
I appreciate your point Abbas. As I said in my original post, I am as concerned about the atrocities against minorities as anyone else. This can surely not be the Pakistan envisioned pre-partition. That being said, there is a saying "rolling around in the mud won't get you any cleaner". I can assure you there is not a shortage of articles pointing towards the problems we face as a country (whether in local media such as dawn or globally - e.g. bbc, guardian, nytimes..). Surely you must agree with this? If so, then why did Faiza write another typically snide, sarcastic and ultimately useless piece? We read enough of these as it is. Let's move forward and make the change we want to see.
September 11, 2012 1:50 am
all this poem & quote dont work in pakistan mate, get real, you are taking to brain dead people for whom actual life starts after death
September 10, 2012 5:06 pm
Khuda k waste stop bashing Pakistan...! Forget 'Geo' theory, forget sensationalizing the issues and learn to live what we have got. No India Muslim wrote a letter to Musharraf when 200 muslims were burnt alive...!
September 10, 2012 5:05 pm
'Times of India' is a tabloid. Read our 'The Hindu' and you will know the difference. Not seen a single article either in Indian press or Pakistani media like we do there. Judging Indian media with 'Times of India' and judging India with bollywood is a serious mistakes u guys perennially make. By the way, from what we hear from Pakistanis in middle-east, none is willing to go back to their homeland even for vacations; even repatriating money is not as regular as done by Indians because most fear for their future in Pakistan. India is a much envied country that way by Pakistanis working int he gulf - even if there is rampant poverty persisting and resources are draining out. There is still so much done right here and we hold the promise called 'hope.' Not seen a single Pakistani like that and in fact been witness to green passport holders checked vigorously physically and for fake currency notes in international airports. To those who think Pakistan is better than India, when it comes to self-respect in international scenario, do you have it?
September 11, 2012 2:01 am
Pakistanis are not at all welcome in India. Please stay in your 'Fortress of Islam' and do whatever you want but please please don't come and create a mess in India.
September 10, 2012 5:05 pm
1) Mr Modi will find it difficult to become the PM in India .He may most likely have to contend hiimself with the throne of Gujrat .. 2) Sikhs have a PM 3) Catholic Christian is the Ruler of India 4) Muslims are the President and Top heros of bolly wood and may be ine day will become the PM .. India did and learnt from its errors and has made amends . So India is different from Pakistan and India shall always be a Secualr and Plural nation not withstanding the above mentioned abberations.
September 10, 2012 5:06 pm
i know only difference between two country is that india is democracy and of course pakistan is not. that why miss Faiza wanna to come india
September 11, 2012 2:07 am
Pakistan can hardly be called a republic when minorities have no rights. You need to look up the definition of a republic.
September 10, 2012 5:03 pm
A very daring article for Pakistan I must admit. These days even in India, anybody who criticizes the giv is jailed. Hats off to Dawn for publishing a tongue article highlighting the deteriorating law and order situation.
September 11, 2012 2:04 am
Muslims and Christians were NOT treated badly in India!
September 10, 2012 5:04 pm
Am an Indian Muslim....A proud a doctor... every country has its own draw backs..India is a vast country....babri,odisha may happen...but still we are at peace. as Muslim i was never degraded anywhere.infact i was given a 5%reservation for studies for being a Muslim. am doing my post graduation in pay my fees i took a bank students interest of 12.5%..and guess who is paying the interest? govt of India..becos am a minority student. sitting in Pakistan and watching 2 repeat telecasts of babri..people should stop commenting on India. get a visa and visit India, i'll host you, and show u, how happy Muslims are in India...and how respectably Hindus treat Muslims in India. i have been abroad for my studies, i met Arabs, Pakistanis, Africans all sorts of Muslims...and am proud i live in a country which gives me religious freedom and security along with my personal growth..alhamdullialh......may Allah protect India..
September 11, 2012 2:03 am
Keep pleading to Manmohan Singh...he might just do it? He seems to be more interested in his old village in Pakistan,rather than rooting out corruption in India!
Bhujang Patil
September 10, 2012 5:02 pm
All your examples are more than a decade old. Can you imagine Hindus rioting in Karachi and groping female cops ? Moslems in Today's Mumbai can do that.
Pavas Ambashta
September 10, 2012 5:02 pm
You should know that Mr. Modi is an elected chief minister of an Indian province not a military dictator of Pakistan. He has won elections twice consecutively and even with record 75% majority. He represents more than 60 million people of Gujrat. Today this state is among the fastest growing state in India. Growth rate of his state is more than 4 times that of Pakistan, not only that He has become the model chief minister in India. So by insulting him you not insulting sentiments of 60 millions Indians but are also insulting An honest politician. No wonder there is no Good politician / leader in Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 10:40 am
September 11, 2012 2:12 am
Pakistan and India will be unified someday soon.
Akash Singh
September 11, 2012 2:11 am
Faiza, You just keep amazing an entire continent with you honesty and clarity of thought. Well done.
September 11, 2012 2:13 am
Over a billion people :)
September 11, 2012 2:29 am
Nice write up. I too wondered, what India would do if Ahmadiyas, Shias and Christians from Pakistan applied for asylum to India. Please do apply, folks. We’d be happy to have you. Yes, India also has people who hate minorities but they have not succeeded like they have in Pakistan because in India EVERYBODY is a minority in some shape or fashion. Hindus are split across linguistic, caste, regional and shirt colors (failing everything else). So come on over.
September 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Also please tell me the dates when all these happened. These are all past incidents, some dating back to 15 to 20 years ago. Things have changed bro..........It seems like you are still living in 90s.
September 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Vijay is not representative of Hindus... BTW Hindus dont convert people from any other religion.. Sorry to snap you out of your moment of glory...
September 11, 2012 2:29 am
Pinky, Do you live in India? If not, Talk to Muslims citizens of India and ask them to migrate to Pak. You will know the truth. I bet...You can't handle the truth!!!
September 10, 2012 4:54 pm
Christians of Kerala !!!?? what you mean by this?, I am a keralite christian, what you say is a baseless statement regarding keralite christian.
September 11, 2012 2:26 am
You are a courageous Pakistani. You have written the unspeakable.
Tariq Kamal
September 11, 2012 12:16 pm
I Strongly Agree with Writer, Please be read it again and think about it.
September 11, 2012 2:20 am
Abbass from toronto, Are you living in a cave in toronto? Do you have cable TV or internet there? I am not sure what is your definition of 'mild' version of relegion based discrimination? Perhaps killing few hundered shias or Ahmediyas or Hazaras is mild as per your scale.
September 11, 2012 2:20 am
Clearly a Pakistani pretending to be Indian ;)
September 10, 2012 4:57 pm
Ms Faiza, Do us a favour and move to your country of dream. I am more than happy to offer travel expenses. Besides, disagreement in ideas is welcomed, furthering of pessimism and defeatist mentality in the garb of freedom,secularism and human rights is shameful.
September 11, 2012 2:19 am
Yes the truth hurts, doesn't it? :)
September 11, 2012 2:16 am
True, every country looks better by default to yours :)
September 10, 2012 4:58 pm
September 11, 2012 2:15 am
Maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia :)
September 11, 2012 12:15 pm
I think nobody is getting what the writer is trying to say between the lines.....please try to understand the sarcasm between the lines and don't just take literal meaning of everything that has been said in here. The writer is giving sugar coated bullshit to a PM. An average Pakistani.
Jiten Maurya
September 10, 2012 4:58 pm
BY THE WAY GREAT ARTICLE, A little bit of satire, may be unintentional, about India giving asylum to Pakistani Hindus. If India does not give them who will? Its like white Christians in trouble in a Muslim country seeking asylum in a white christian country like USA, England, etc (even though these countries are very so much successful in being secular). Thanks to the author and the Editor.
September 11, 2012 2:14 am
Right, all the Muslims in India live in the streets because they cannot buy a house :)
September 11, 2012 10:55 am
I promise to become a 'more' loyal Pakistani if 'you' promise not to kill me because I am a Hindu or a Christian or a Shia or an Ahmadi. Get some fresh air.
September 11, 2012 2:38 am
Dear Fellow readers, It is essentially important for us as Pakistanis to come out of denial and see the world objectively. I mean lets face the bitter face of reality, in Pakistan every single person is sick and tired of dealing with our Government inabilities to deal with common issues such as safety, water, electricity, food, shelter. I know every citizen has a responsibility and can contribute in shaping the society but Government has to initiate and facilitate the ideological change through enforcement which a common man cannot do. It is important that the Government, specially interior ministry to involve in the planning, execution and monitoring to ensure the enforcement in order to achieve the desired outcomes. Economies don't grow over night, economies don't built without strategies. Pakistan should establish Economic Transformation Program like Malaysia and use its legislative institutions and government bodies to facilitate the economic development across the nation. In order for any society to become civilized it has to establish its foundation and in Pakistan we are missing the entire foundation and therefore we are facing discrimination against minorities be it in the name of race, religion, caste, ethnic or sex. Migrating to India is not a solution, we cannot migrate the whole nation to India just because everyone feel insecure in Pakistan. I must give credit to India for building a system in society in which people of various cultures can coexist and although India has its own set of issues to be addressed it has created a ecosystem within its complex society.
September 10, 2012 4:50 pm
Impressive article, I have lived in Pakistan for 8 years. Poverty and lack of services is not a problem in this country. Its a country of animals if you not trying to kill one another because of your sect or cultural differences you look down on each other. The only way out of the current jungle is either British or American to invade Pakistan and remove the militancy, corruption. As we Muslims and Pakistani have shown time and time again we cannot live as civilized nation.
September 11, 2012 10:34 am
Come to Islamabad and you'll see how many Americans are roaming around..These things you won't find in papers but just take a trip to one of Islamabad's markets. No matter how much India shine, there massive population is also shining like anything so not sure what one can get outta India?
September 10, 2012 4:48 pm
Faiza Mirza should be expelled from Dawn. Human atoricities are committed through out the world, just pick all the world peacemaker countries & glance at their recent past. Look what happened in Iraq & Afghanistan, look at Africa, look how UN is hijacked and deals are made to decide countries future & economic hardship of so many nations and their people. It is a Crime to kill anyone no matter what religion a person belongs to. Pak is going through many changes and it is my hope that PAK leaders (ONLY those that are Loyal to country & the people) will Come together to Form a great nation that Quaid envisioned where everyone is protected under the law and crimes & corruption will gradually fade away. Faiza must move to India and Join one of the news outlets there and after living few years, maybe reside in few other countries in the world to have a better understanding of world prospects.
September 10, 2012 4:40 pm
Why do you want to equate Pakistan with India... they are miles apart and very different... India is not perfect but infinitely better than Pakistan in all aspects i.e. equal rights of minorities, opportunities, practising their religion, human rights, literacy...etc. Pakistan is ranked 13th in the list of failed states (in company with Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Congo, Chad, Zimbabwe....Pakistan)
September 11, 2012 2:55 am
Have u ever been there to experience? ddont just presume from the skewed facrts presented to u.. Get out of the pond atmosphere..
September 10, 2012 4:41 pm
From the heart. And so true.
Sanjay Deswal
September 10, 2012 4:43 pm
despite all these shortcomings, India is still a secular and progressive society my dear friend
September 11, 2012 2:46 am
Really You were in India?
September 10, 2012 4:44 pm
Fiaza Mirza, I lived most of my life in Europe and also spend some years in Canada and I tell you one thing, you're totally wrong about the loyalties of many minorities of Pakistan. Among them are Ahmadis, I'm not Ahmadi but I know many of them who are living abroad but none of them can ever imagine to call Pakistan an evil country. In fact they still love that country where people are not welcoming them and if you ask them if they have a choice to pick one country as favorite then sure they will choose Pakistan and never India. Trust me they are very loyal Pakistanis. If they wanted they could easily sell their souls for some dollars and would have talked so much bad about Pakistan or like you desperately wrote a letter to Manmohan Singh but no even losing their family members in Pakistan they still say, "we are proud Pakistanis" and they are optimistic that one day their country Pakistan will change for better.
September 10, 2012 4:32 pm
India even with its poverty has hope and a bright future... cant say that about Pakistan with surety (13th in the list of Failed states)?
September 11, 2012 3:21 am
Sorry my friend.. we will remain one.. may be Pakistan/Bangladesh came to your mind..
September 11, 2012 3:18 am
India has a thriving Muslim population.. you cant take one incident and hash it again and again.. we are Past Godhra and all..
Civi varghese
September 11, 2012 12:14 pm
What a courageous article.Congratulations for a progressive mind of a pakistani writer.@Zameer Sultan,I am a south indian christian.Ididnot notice any independence movement against india until today.Do you know better than me?
Ajaya K Dutt
September 11, 2012 3:13 am
Dreaming is better than reality.
September 10, 2012 4:37 pm
I told you a useless and not my beautiful kerala. My kerala is the hevan in the kerala is gods own country.
September 11, 2012 3:07 am
How come all the superstars of hindustan are Muslims if it's true what you said ?
September 11, 2012 3:01 am
Yes Dear Mr. Manhoman. Pakistanis would not like to pay taxes, strengthen law enforcement by paying them more - support infrastructure (France's gdp to tax ratio is 43% - German low 40's, USA 26% - and Pakistan 8 % vs India's 15%. So Yes we wouldn't do the obvious to improve governance - we'd much rather change countries and pay taxes somewhere else. What a shame this writer doesn't understand what makes good governance - taxation !!!
Karthik Mohanarangam (@KMohanarangam)
September 11, 2012 3:00 am
That's a poor way to interpret the news. And Indian media is very good at highlighting controversial fact that people would love to crunch. Those people were not naturalized just 'cos, they are Hindus. They lived in India for over 7 years. Indian constitution requires foreigners to live in India at least 12 years before they could get naturalized. The news should be about relaxation to Pakistani Hindus and not naturalization to Pakistani Hindus. Is there any Pakistani Muslim/Christian who have lived in India more than 12 years and not naturalized?
September 10, 2012 4:39 pm
I guess you dont read your local news papers.we had these odd but very unfortunate incidents in India but you have them everydayfor breakfast lunch and dinner.
September 11, 2012 3:23 am
And ofcourse you assume there are no muslims living in India and no hindus living in bangladesh.
September 10, 2012 4:26 pm
i wish she leaves Pakistan .. we do not need such unpatriotic people here .. why dont you guys see the situation of India .. Muslims are never safe there .. Muslims were burnt alive .. atleast we dont see any people burnt to death .. pathetic article
September 10, 2012 4:29 pm
Mahatma Gandhi is dead
September 10, 2012 4:29 pm
Jinnah did not survive to deliver his promise. He did not fail. But with a sad heart, I must agree with everything else that you said about Pakistan. I do not know enough about India to agree or disagree with your assertions there.
Ajaya K Dutt
September 11, 2012 3:24 am
A respectful bow to Dawn for publishing this. A disdainful glance over to pathetic lot failing to see her care for the society she lives in. Girl, May God bless you with long life.
September 11, 2012 3:24 am
Get over Modi and Godhra.. there is much more to India.. and even Muslims have become prosperous under Modi's rule in Gujarat..
September 10, 2012 4:31 pm
Sir... dont even talk of India in the same breath as Pakistan... they are miles apart
September 10, 2012 4:20 pm
Never saw so many comments on a blog post specially on except for NFP's blogs. This post is uniting Pakistanis but sadly most of them asking the author of this to leave Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 4:21 pm
I am feeling your pain and agonies by the current situation of Pakistan. Faiza, you are depressed, frustrated and worried, so am i. I also dream of land of pure where i could live life with my family with harmony and peace and of course this county is far different now from what I dream, What Quaid Azam dreamed of. I am also fade up by fake patriots and optimistic Misleading preachers who always emphasis on fake history that never existed at first place.Today Office colleague sent my your article and asked me how i think about the writer, I replied in lighter mode, "Lovely beauty" with attaching your picture. But honestly speaking he wanted me to label you traitor but I won't in any case because i understand the miseries you are going through as Pakistani due to current situation. Let me tell you what I do mostly when I get frustrated, I always pray to Almighty Allah for betterment, for security of kids and family and if the bad time comes to hunt me then give me strength to fight it back. I am not obsessed by this so called pakistanyiat any more, but I don't want to loose this identify either.
Feda Ali Shah
September 11, 2012 10:31 am
Its either you are having problem in your english or you dont digest bitter truth. Feda
Cyrus Howell
September 11, 2012 3:57 am
The Indian chemist in the Film TIGER BAY: "Bron, take my advice. Don't let your emotions rule your life."
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 3:57 am
You are right we should also register an FIR and thenelect teh culprit to the position of Chief Minister as in case of Modi. Then I guess the victims will be happy accordign to your logic
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 3:55 am
30,000 indians come to Australia alone every year and do not go back, some even give up their indian citizenship as they are not allowed dual nationality. I thought India was shinning, what is wrong with india then.
September 11, 2012 3:56 am
"Many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality." Just regarding this quote, if someone really wanted a different citizenship, its really not going to be an Indian one. Like the author, I'm gonna go ahead and generalize and think people would rather adopt an American, British, or a Canadian one at that. And please get your research straight on how minorities are treated in India, before you start claiming a nation is so much more righteous than ours. Pakistan Zindabad!
September 10, 2012 4:18 pm
one comment shows entire India's sentiment?grow up mate.yes India has its own problems but nothing compared to the absolute mess - read Pakistan
September 11, 2012 3:53 am
......... I remind them that Muslims will never want to live in a society that these movies depicted, that does not give women freedom to choose, or in a society that has such ingrained injustices...... so, what do you mean ISLAM is heaven for women. no doubt you are in sixty's, and thus have closed your mind to the mess your country is in. and, muslims live in india in equal numbers. so, stop your rant.
September 11, 2012 3:51 am
Namaste: Muhammad Iqbal wrote: Hazaron saal nargis apni bey-noori pey roati hay Bari mushkil sey hota hay jahan main deedawar paida means that those who can fathom the hidden meanings are rare indeed
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 3:51 am
You must be joking. Muslims are the poorest community in india (according to indian govt statistics). Hundreds of roits since 1947 have killed thousands of minorities. 100 churches burned in Orissa, 2500 muslims killed in Gujrat, thousands of sikhs killed in Punjab and around 5000 Sikhs disapperared (according to BBC) after Indra Gandhis murder, millions of low caste hindus treated like animals, to name a few incidents. Your capacity to live in an imaginary world must be appreciated
September 11, 2012 3:49 am
Love it, you are my kinda guy.
September 11, 2012 4:00 am
Thounsands of Muslims and Christians are already (even today) living in India.Even Pakistan have too much racism between mohajirs, sunni,shia,sindhi etc.
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 4:00 am
Look at the bright side, if the Author leaves then we may not have to put up with her articles demonising Pakistan any longer.
September 11, 2012 1:19 pm
Well said nchauhdry! Aag kay uss paar aman ki abaadi hai, khud bakhud toot kay girti nahi zanjeer kabhi, badli jaati hai, badalti nahi taqdeer kabhi.
September 11, 2012 4:03 am
I hope Mr. Singh really reads it.
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 4:03 am
And the point is ..........should we go back to those dark ages
Amit Singh
September 11, 2012 4:05 am
alice in the wonderland
September 11, 2012 4:14 am
It is Ok? She doesn't mind? Wonder how you know? I mind and mind a lot! BB sacrificed her life, did Pakistan get any better?
Nadeem Khan
September 11, 2012 4:14 am
If India is shining why Indians leave India in Millions and living in Gulf, US, Canada, Australia even in Africa
September 11, 2012 4:13 am
Cant deny the facts but Still love my Pakistan.
Akil Akhtar
September 11, 2012 4:11 am
I have been reading her articles also and probaly she has been branded rightly. Would she write such criticism of her own family even if there were problems with them. That is the difference between faithful and traitirs.
September 11, 2012 4:17 am
I feel pity to read your comment. What society you are talking about? India is multi cultural, pluralistic, multi langauge, multi cuisine and multi religious society with modern out look. This is the reason it is a secular democratic country. Here anybody can reach on the top with his/her ability. India's top industrialist are Parsi, many top scientists, some top difference personal were also parsi. Here majority population does not consider much about ones religion, culture, language, cuisine. They are all one's own choice. The main binding factor between all Indian is its 5000 years old legacy, Indinness. I do not want to point out any flaws in Islam, or in that case of Pakistan’s The above article itself says how it is.
September 10, 2012 4:08 pm
Mr. Shafiq Rao, first of all it is Mrs.or Miss Mirza and not Mr. Mirza. Secondly, I am sure she doesn't really want to leave Pakistan but is simply trying to wake-up the silent majority within Pakistan that things have come to a boil and it is a desperate situation. India has its problems but is far better in terms of security than Pakistan. Muslims in Kashmir were leading a beautiful life until the Pakistani government started exporting terror in the 1990s. Frankly the proverb that one shall reap as they sow is ringing true here. I don't what problem Christians in Kerala are having? They are enjoying a pretty peaceful life. They state has the highest literacy rate (nearly 100%). Tourism is at its peak in Kerala. Anyway, I think Pakistan needs to look within and clean-house.
September 11, 2012 1:17 pm
Correct. Many Pakistanis are under the impression that since Pakistan was created for Islam, India was created for Hinduism.
September 11, 2012 3:30 pm
Superb article
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 11, 2012 3:30 pm
Pakistan Also had a chief just Ramday just for your information. Compare the minority propotion 3% to 20%. Pakistan and India are the two branches of same tree. Niether one is better than the others. Did you think about the Masacar of Muslims in 2003 or the Masacar of Sikhs in 1985. So please do not get on your high horses. They are no different from each other.
September 11, 2012 4:26 am
We can exchange Arundhati Roy with her, if you want.
September 11, 2012 4:24 am
Probably you need to ask them, why is Canada different from US? That aside, thanks for the patronizing comments on India & how muslims would not blend into an India depicted in the movies. Honestly, neither would Indians blend in into the fanatical image of Pakistani society.
September 11, 2012 4:29 am
Hmmmm...Coming from Pakistan that is a comment worth 'not losing sleep' on. Happy dreams...
September 11, 2012 4:31 am
Your minorities, possibly?
September 11, 2012 4:28 am
Oh the irony!! :D
September 11, 2012 4:29 am
it a secular way....
September 11, 2012 1:16 pm
For the last many years we Pakistani's are facing all sorts of challenges and see we're still there.... nothing could bring us down. keep trying to frustrate us and you will find us even stronger Insha Allah.
September 10, 2012 4:00 pm
Are you joking Mr.Rao. I wish Indian government gives you Visa and then gauge your understanding of Indian muslims. Kerala as you said thrives with more inclusivity than any other state. Have you ever checked the onam festival. search for it and google it.
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 4:01 pm
this is not about poverty sir....., this is about scorched earth under the feet of the poor that has made him have just missed the point....
Noble Lucifer
September 11, 2012 4:37 am
Try asking an Indian muslim to come over to Pakistan for a better future. He would straight-away dismiss your offer.
September 10, 2012 4:02 pm
sane writing Zain!!!
September 11, 2012 4:35 am
Friend, just google 'Arundhati Roy'. You will be pleased with the reading you will do there after.
September 11, 2012 4:47 am
Swap places with Faiza, then..
September 11, 2012 4:46 am
Under the constitution of India anyoe whose father or grandfather was born in India is eligible for PIO card. skpande
September 11, 2012 4:46 am
No. You are wrong. India is a democracy where there is press freedom. She will not be jailed especially in India for expressing her excellent views.
Sarfraz Khan
September 10, 2012 3:58 pm
Rubbish! I am a Pakistani and am proud of being one! We must at some point think instead of always asking what Pakistan has given us, we must see what have we done for this beautiful country? People like the writer portray an image about our beloved country that is no where close to reality! @ Writer: Wake up and stop complaining about Pakistan. Grass is always green on the other side! Two Nation Theory was thought up much ahead of it's time and I salute all our leaders for doing so! I am ashamed to see this article being write on a news paper started by the founder of Pakistan itself! I have lost credibility and trust in this newspaper and would never be coming back to this site again as a protest! Regards, Sarfraz Khan
September 11, 2012 4:57 am
Faiza, Do you know that when we Indians do not want our phones to disturb us, we put them on 'Manmohan' mode (ie) silent mode? Saying this, as your 'un-posted' letter, even if posted, may fall on the deaf, mute establishment in Delhi. That said, the points that you have raised are valid & Pakistan needs serious introspection & a leader of some stature to straighten things out, democratically.
Noble Lucifer
September 11, 2012 4:58 am
Just one comment out of all Indian comments that you picked. Please remember that you would find varied opinions from Indian commentators. That does not mean the worst one is correct. Please understand that.
I, Reason
September 11, 2012 5:01 am
From the many comments, I come to the conclusion that possession of rationality and critical thinking skills should have been the reason for Partition. Those who had it (the majority) would have had a country of their own; and those who did not, also deserved a country of their very own. Jinnah and Iqbal diagnosed the problem wrongly: assuming religion was the reason for future conflict. Rather it was between those who were reasonable and those who were not, regardless of faith. And after the Partition, a mile-high impenetrable wall should have been constructed to keep the two groups from ever mingling again!
Rakesh Kotti
September 11, 2012 1:12 pm
Dawood! ;-)
September 10, 2012 3:54 pm
Dear Faiza, My heart bleeds for you. What must it take for you to write such an article? The courage, the anguish, the utter sense of hopelesness, the burning suffocating desire to share your inner most true feelings with your took has moved me. MAY TH EGOOD LORD BLESS YOU. AND DON'T EVER STOP WRITING. I HOPE Dr. MANMOHAN SINGH WOULD ALLOW THE HAZARAS, AHMADIS, CHRISTIANS, SHIAS AND EVEN THE OPPRESSED SUNNIS SEEKING ASSYLUM TO SEETLE IN INDIA.
Ahmer Ali
September 10, 2012 3:55 pm
A very well written article Faiza! Mixed with the intended sarcasm of the Indian Regime of only accepting Hindus as their own, despite claiming to be the world's largest secular state. In my opinion to much regret most of the readers have not taken on board the true spirit with which this article is written. Its neither meant to be Anti Pakistan nor is it meant to be Pro-Indian. The main theme of the article is to be a precursor to a thought as to where we are heading as a nation where people are brutally being dismissed just on their sects, let alone religion. Pakistan was supposed to be a tolerant safe heaven for people of all socio-religio-political back grounds. They all had respect enshrined in the constitution as equal citizens of the country irrespective of their belief Besides, since when has Almighty given the right of judging Fidels and the infidels to the mere mortals. This He has kept firmly with Him and He alone will decide their affairs on the day of judgement. We all are expected as Humans to respect every living being within reason and give every one their basic rights irrespective of where they originate from. I hope one day we all are able to realize this and make our society and the world in large a better place to live with peace and harmony. Sincerely A faithful Pakistani and a Muslim
September 11, 2012 5:14 am
Well if you want to be a Indian citizen...then you have to support India... whenever we (Indian) defeat your Pakistani team you have to cheer for India and say from heart that "Yes I am proud to be an Indian".
September 11, 2012 5:14 am
I think most People have missed the point. Real Question is,If India is a secular state than why can't a Muslim or Christian Pakistani get Indian Citizenship. I agree with the author. Well written
September 10, 2012 3:51 pm
I too would leave Pakistan for India in a second if I was stuck in that land of misery and pain. No future no hope. I can't imagine a greater feeling of helplessness. To all the critics, I bet you would be sitting in India in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.
Rakesh Kotti
September 11, 2012 1:09 pm
Dawood Ibrahim perhaps? ;-)
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 3:50 pm
big can come to my neighbour hood Hayat and no one will ask you, your religion
September 11, 2012 5:27 am
'Pakistan started from the scratch while India strated with an India with all infrastructure and treasury'....Bammm!!! Everybody listen up, this guy has found the reason, Finally.
September 11, 2012 5:25 am
Hi Mr Syed Kazmi, I think the author is questioning the policy of a secular nation India to plan to give citizenship to some Pakistani's who are Hindus. Will India do the same for Muslim and Christian Pakistani's if they seek the same
September 11, 2012 5:28 am
Why are you living in Canada ? You got your Pakistan, why don't you live in some part khyber-Pakhtoonwa happily? It is really nice to see a Pakistani proudly talking about the great status of women in Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 10:46 am
Pakistan is still a safe heaven for me, my friends, family and anyone that I know..I think the writer lives in another land or just tries to bring issues outta nowhere. She has probably forgotten that half of our issues are courtesy India and she is pleading them for help, shocking!!
September 11, 2012 5:31 am
Oh.. thank you.
September 11, 2012 5:30 am
You also didn't think muslims would progress much more in India when you broke away. The proof is in the pudding, buddy.
September 10, 2012 3:46 pm
Pakistani citizens are not the responsibility of govt of India irrespective of their religion. The govt of India is only responsible for the citizens and legal residents of India. The constitution of India has not authorized the govt of India to worry about citizens of a foreign country.
September 11, 2012 5:43 am
You said it
Saurabh Srivastava
September 11, 2012 5:45 am
You guys have no idea of what she wrote? did you? First of all, Congratulations to Ms. Faiza for fooling so many people on both sides of the border. Guys, its a "highly sarcastic" article, which mocks both the countries. The reason she chose to address "Manmohan Singh" and not "The Govt of India" has a reason. MMS is considered one of the weakest PMs India ever had. She chose to appreciate India's growth, at a time when India's growth is at a minimum in recent times. She chose to call India secular, when an important verdict in Gujrat riots was recently pronounced (I do believe India is "more secular" than Pakistan though). She chose India as an "alternative" to Pakistan because there can't be a better way to tease a Pakistani, other than praising India. Com'on... it all Sarcasm, she'll surely write an article soon to clarify it :D
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 3:45 pm
It is not about poverty sir, it is about self respect, safety and hope....In Pakistan the minorities have lost all three and the majority are bereft of the last two,
September 11, 2012 5:43 am
What Ur Thoughts About Jammu Kashmir...? Could U write To Singh About That..? Or U Dont Know A bout Kashmir..? Think About It.. And U must Write...
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 3:39 pm
maybe you should ask them...
September 11, 2012 5:46 am
Jamil.. both of your questions are invalid.. lacking hope and encouraging depression
Ahmed Khan
September 11, 2012 5:35 pm
This provocative but very meaningful article is a cry of the "sane" Pakistanis who are fed up of the incursion of extremist religious ideology in their lives, awful law and order situation and a total collapse of morality , justice and fairplay in Pakistan. The fact is that pakistanis only complain but do nothing to correct their situation. Why don't they bring a revolution to wipe out lawlessness, corruption, and religious extremism in the country and take religion out out of the public life and put it back into the place where it belongs - in the hearts of the individuals ?
September 11, 2012 6:07 am
The point the writer has tried to make, about the Indian bias in favour of Pakistani Hindus, needs to be made more prominent. The sugar coating is too thick, diminishing the effect of this very valid point.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 3:38 pm
"...why complain about everything when you are moving to better places.." Because she can.
Akash Paul
September 11, 2012 6:06 am
Thought provoking article Ms. Mirza. I salute Dawn for publishing such a bold article.
September 11, 2012 7:00 am
Very ill Informed....I think you are very young to comment on issues like this...India is not an aid (money)seeker any more. its a donor...I think the university were you study has not revised there syllabus for years.
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 5:58 am
Faiza's work is dark satire. It is meant as a slap on the PEOPLE who tolerate the religious bigotry which is slowly unraveling Pakistan. Not just the civil govt or army, but each one of you who in their hearts' cheer a murdering guard of Taseer, those who silently feel happy about Bombay 26/11, who silently hope the amreekans are killed by Taliban or Mujahids and support the spread of religion in public life by watching a televised conversion as an act of piety, instead of intolerance, and those professing a false ghairat in the neoreligious shape the nation has taken as against true nation building as envisaged by founding fathers incl Jinnah. By invoking hated India, the idea was to i suppose jolt citizens rather than literally state the key words of asking for asylum. The message looks like, has delivered. And bigots outnumber all others on writing in.
Paras Dilliwaala
September 11, 2012 2:02 pm
This is the kind of journalism which sets Dawn apart from other newspapers! Bravo.
September 11, 2012 6:31 am
Ok Dear Anant, you can dismount from your high horse now! "The duplicity of the Indian state" as put by you, would be an apt allegation if the Indian govt was denying visas and asylum to all Muslims, Christians etc and only accepting Hindus! Whoever applied and came across was given asylum. You make it sound like hundreds of Muslims were in line to cross over to India and were denied entry!
Pavas Ambashta
September 10, 2012 2:32 pm
And How exactly??
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 2:34 pm
Many Pakistanis have remarked on how many Indians read DAWN online. Part of the reason is Indian newspapers suck.
September 10, 2012 2:34 pm
Faiza, you wrote ... "Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality. The reason behind our desire to move is extremely simple. It is because India since 1947 has grown as a nation, an economy and a country". Well well well !!! Pakistanis are disappointed in the state of Pakistan, and perhaps the circle you move in would prefer to become Indian citizens, but believe me that is not the case for the majority of Pakistanis. It's as simple as that ! I am puzzled that DAWN's reporters have such a defeatist mentality...yes Pakistan is whipped today and its difficult to hope, but Phoenix rises from its ashes. Do keep hope alive in your heart and mind, you seem to be a young person !!
September 10, 2012 2:36 pm
Indians are interested in much more than you realize. How will one know unless one reads the opinions of others. I have lived in Canada for 40 years and to get a true perspective of India-Pakistan equation read Dawn, The Express, the Hindu, Hindustan times, and Times of India, daily. Faiza Mirza writes her opinion and like all the readers of her column, be it Pakistani, or Indian, they in turn express their opinion. However, I understand your surprise of reading so many opinions by Indians. Does that make you feel vulnerable? And I am not surprised at your comment, "its meant to be ironic". You too are one of many Pakistanis who do not want to admit the quagmire your country is in, created by your hatred of others and religious extremism fostered and encouraged by your Armed Forces, the mullah regimes, and your Hindu hatred filled school text books. No wonder you have your head in sand... you are expected to be stuck in your Ghairat....Best of luck...
September 11, 2012 1:58 pm
Ma'am, I am surprised you have not yet been lynched in Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 6:58 am
Good article, apart from the 'Hindus remain your government's first priority' bit. Indians are, or should be the Government of India's top priority, irrespective of their religion. Goes to show that even among the educated elite of Pakistan, India is a country where Hindus have first priority. That is a privilege extended on all Indians.
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 6:54 am
September 10, 2012 3:24 pm
WOW!!!! Zameer Sultan. Now I know the reason why Pakistan is in such a mess. It is because of people like you.
September 11, 2012 6:02 am
If that is the blogger's idea of creating an interesting light hearted joke, she miserably fails at it. And if she writes this in all seriousness, she alone should be given Indian citizenship. She must refrain from using the word 'we' because millions of Pakistanis like me would die striving to make Pakistan better before seeking Indian citizenship.
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 6:01 am
fantastic positive suggestion, just what citizens should be planning.
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 3:42 pm
she gave you a specific and a constructive recommendations.....MIGRATE
dr vimal raina
September 10, 2012 3:40 pm
i am sure you did want to write more but the electricity went off....
September 11, 2012 1:06 pm
very true...
September 10, 2012 2:10 pm
It is truly sad that you have taken flight. But I respect your right to safeguard your and your family's lives. I sincerely hope that no matter where you are, you will write against the injustices meted out to minorities of the world. I have lived in Canada for 40 years and know the true meaning of personal freedom, safety and a place to be who you are. Best of luck.
Rahul D B
September 11, 2012 6:05 am
This isn't running away. This is a call for help to the people of Pakistan to make it better.
The Mahdi
September 10, 2012 2:11 pm
Faiza, you can leave Pakistan behind but you can't leave pakistaniyat . So, do the world a favour and be in pakistan.
Sohaib Umer
September 11, 2012 1:56 pm
This lady has a very negative approach. In every article she displays pessimism. Such kind of articles can only increase frustration in the society. Newspaper is equally responsible for the damage since there is no need to publish such an ordinary article. There are plenty of people who have better views to share with society. Sohaib (Mauritius)
September 10, 2012 3:16 pm
Just read it to understand the Sarcasm in it..she is not willing to move to India ,She just want her own birth country to become like India,US,UK,Canda etc etc...Because Pakistan has become living hell for people who want to live peacefully with Muslims and non muslims..Want to enjoy Eid but also wants to share some sewain with their non muslims neighbours...
September 11, 2012 1:47 pm
There are enough articles written on the worstening situation in Pakistan, here the idea of resolving the issue is by migrating to India! post second world war, Germans or Japenese (even after the floods) didn't start applying for US passports!
September 11, 2012 4:11 pm
I strongly agree with you. While I agree with everything said in the article, and also stating that i am not at all anti-India.. this doesn't mean I would want to be considered for Indian nationality. I would like my country to improve itself. and MOST of us? I highly doubt it. We should follow in India's footsteps. There's a difference between going in India's footsteps and going to India. Very honest opinion: I do not want to be considered for Indian nationality.
Cyrus Howell
September 11, 2012 6:20 am
"The cardinal rule of a closing or closed society is that your alignment with the regime offers no protection; in a true police state no one is safe." -- Naomi Wolf
September 10, 2012 2:09 pm
The author must not have read today's Dawn news of Indian cartoonist and a university professor were jailed just for pointing to the wide spread corruptions in India. Don't you appreciate the freedom that you can publish such letter and still free?
September 10, 2012 2:10 pm
well madam, what an immature article...if you like moving out, plz do so...If you are serious plz apply for asylum in india why complain about everything when you are moving to better places..
September 10, 2012 2:07 pm
Indeed - Indeed left me with a heavy heart
September 11, 2012 3:30 pm
To phir Pakistan ke macho men, kab badlogay apna taqdeer. Kis waqt ka intezaar kar rahe ho! Kab laa rahe ho apne watan me amal.
September 10, 2012 2:06 pm
thanks Yaqoob. the writer deserves this so do our people who haven't done real struggle and now envy the India's democracy. every country's people need to resolve their problems on their own.
September 11, 2012 3:31 pm
What makes you think I am pretending to be Indian???? I am proud to be Pakistani.
September 11, 2012 12:25 pm
Dude this article is no place to have pointless debates. Chill. Pakistan might have its problems but they are ours to deal with, not sure why you are getting all hyper about it. The problem with the media is that they exagerate the bad and dont say much about the good. A fine balance is needed.
September 10, 2012 1:46 pm
Faaiza, an excellent idea if India itself had a better track record of Human Rights than Pakistan. Unfortunately that's not the case. If any of the Muslim minority groups decided to go over, I can guarantee you that they would face similar (if not considerably worse) discrimination upon their arrival to India. Don't forget that the millions of Afghan refugees that came over the border to Pakistan in the 80s, 90s and 2000s have been allowed to own and operate businesses of their own. They find employment (albeit meagre) and in many cases have even been able to acquire the rights vote as Pakistani citizens. Now the attacks on their specific communities are condemnable, but with the lack of resources and funds (and the rampant corruption in the upper echelons of the bureaucracy), it has become extremely difficult to police the borders, let alone the vast expanses within.
Muhammad Ahmed Mufti
September 10, 2012 1:46 pm
Ms. Mirza you are welcome to leave Pakistan and take the Dawn newspaper and its team with you. You will not be missed!
Maliha Hussain
September 11, 2012 12:37 pm
And when she writes a similar letter to Obama ( because conditions in India are not any better) you would be the first one to charge her with treason and throw her out of India!
September 10, 2012 1:45 pm
Faiza: Your aim is laudable, but I dare say the effort is counterproductive. A tiny minority of liberal elites will understand and applaud the satire. An overwhelming majority, however, wrapped in their India-hatred and their nationalism will call you names and will point to minority-targeting Indian atrocities as a defence of their ostrich positions. So what will you have gained?. I don't know how you can sway Pakistanti minds, but this just isn't it. This is as much a question to Dawn's editors as it is to you; I applaud Dawn's evolution from a mildly liberal paper to one that can actually publish a blog as open as this one, but this is no way to effect real change.
September 10, 2012 1:44 pm
To be critical is one thing and to abandon hope is another. What makes you think that Pakistan will not see growth of progressive forces in future? It might take time but that is the way it has to go, And remember, the obscurantists and religious bigots have only grown stronger in India in the recent past. Nehru had put us on a track of progressivism. He was truly an exceptional leader who understood that India's future lies in embracing scientific outlook. The current of crop of leaders in India do not have any such ideological orientation. So, unless people are vigilant India could end up in the hands of bigots in not so distant future.
Syed Jafri
September 11, 2012 6:52 am
Dear Faiza, You proved me right again. I told you after reading one of your articles that one day you will be begging for an Indian Passport but it was not in my dreams that you will act so soon. Don't forget all this journalism and platform for you is because of MY COUNTRY PAKISTAN which is tolerating traitors like you. Any ways try it out and go to India. But don' worry if you save yourself from hindus and sikhs and want to come back we will still accomodate you as we have been doing to everyone. People like you make the job of US , India and Israel that much easier.
Concerned Citizen
September 10, 2012 1:44 pm
India has always welcomed persecuted people from all parts -- Jews, Bahai, Tibetians, Parsis. Even Muslims in India lead a much better life than in Pakistan. If you seriously want to leave Pakistan, do apply to come to India. However problems of a country cannot be solved by leaving the country to monsters.
Rakesh Kotti
September 11, 2012 12:43 pm
The same Javed Akhtar has called the two nation theory flawed on two major counts....1) The creation of Bangladesh (How come the muslims couldn't live together) and 2) India still has a vibrant muslim population that is doing well in many fields..... And if you are going to refer to the Sachar committee report ....well we have a committee appointed to look into the reasons for the backwardness of a community...that is reassuring by itself ... I can only wish your country luck in ensuring a stable system at the earliest.
September 11, 2012 5:21 pm
i think people should understand the concept what writer is trying to put, instead just taking the words. if we can ask India to give us shelter, then think what we have becoming to.
September 11, 2012 5:34 pm
if you have not lived in/for Pakistan, How would you die for Pakistan
September 12, 2012 9:11 pm
Respectfully, the lady is beautiful also full of wisdom and knowledge. As her kind will know its hard to communicate with intellectually inept people...
September 11, 2012 1:33 pm
September 11, 2012 1:33 pm
Brilliant article Faiza!
Pavas Ambashta
September 10, 2012 1:42 pm
You should better live in Pakistan the safest country where no atrocities are committed against anyone and leave poor India and Indian on their miserable state..When did 570 Muslims died in Mumbai? Better know the facts before speaking..India is a very large country with people belonging to almost every possible religion..In such a large country with this much diversity no one can expect an utopian situation..Problems are there,no doubt but still India is one country and people living here have only one identity : "INDIAN"..In my India religion comes second after the nation for every Indian irrespective of his faith..
September 10, 2012 1:42 pm
Thank you congratulations Faiza for raising these very important issues. I know you did not mean seeking political asylum in India who has its hands full with its own problem but by all means are better than our present situation. You would be declared/labelled, as so many have already starting doing in their comments, as Kafir/Raw Agent/even working for Mossad but deep down they know you are right. Why cannot any thing be done to bring peace to our beautiful country. I live outside Pakistan and after every six months I die to go back to my beloved country only to leave it again in disgust after three weeks. in-competent Government who tries to protect their stolen millions, suicide bombers, killing of Shias, forced conversion of Hindus, load shedding, kidnappings, The shameful part is that the Government is not even concern about these matters. Our country has been converted in to a lawless piece of land at the mercy of Bandits like Taliban and others in the name of Islam. I know and have witnessed it personally that our Army can get rid of these Taliban Fitna but they are trying to play games with Americans and in the process hurt Pakistan. I believe drones are helping peaceful Pakistanis by killing these bandits. The much trumpeted so called innocent civilians in FATA are not that innocent. Why they let these criminal Taliban hide in their homes/villages/area. God bless you Faiza. Keep it up but be careful and stay safe.
Muhammad Ahmed
September 10, 2012 1:39 pm
Well, just go and do what adnan sami, ali zafar and veena malik did and you will in good hands.
Umar Hussain
September 10, 2012 1:40 pm
It is funny how you ignored the fact that how minorities are subjected to atrocities in India & a very high number of domestic insurgencies are present there even more than Pakistan. It is for people like you Ex PM Gillani said `Why Don`t You Leave Then?`
September 10, 2012 9:09 pm
The fact is that minorities get treated in a different way in every country. Minorities who choose to move out consider their options and in this case, India seems a better option. It's facing the devil or jumping into the well... looks like people are taking chances with jumping into the well.
September 11, 2012 7:56 pm
India is best....Compare to Pak. Lot lot better than Pak. Proud Muslim from India
September 11, 2012 7:57 pm
you forgot political & sectarian thuggs, and the media, journalism playing fanfare without any minimum dignity or morals !
Ganesh (India)
September 11, 2012 6:24 pm
Pakisthan had around 20% Hindus during partition and now they are 3 %. Where as in India there were only 2% Muslims during partition and now they are 20%.... Think about it...
September 11, 2012 5:37 pm
Mr Hasan, why didnt you move to Pakistan in 1971?
September 11, 2012 12:47 pm
i second it, even kalmadi
alok agarwal
September 12, 2012 7:23 am
Faiza, Indians may be better of , but many more miles to go. Indian society too goes through periodic attack on its secular, democratic fabric. Somehow sensible heads have been able to prevail. Your Shikwa is justified but not Jawab e Shikwa (Iqbal too was wrong in his Jawab e shikwa). One can't run away, one has to fight, it's collective fight of us south asians.
September 11, 2012 8:46 pm
American, canadian, australian, british citizenships....dream on!
September 10, 2012 1:14 pm
You are getting Indian figures from last 20 years. Compare them with just last 2 years in Pakistan, you will get your answer. India is not perfect but obviously much tolerant and more open. I am an Indian muslim and would never ever think of becoming a Pakistan. On the other hand it is very obvious that non of the Pakistani minority group want to live in Pakistan
September 10, 2012 1:36 pm
This article made me really nervous for the first time. For an Indian, knowing what is happening in Pakistan is a curiosity and most times, I sympathize with what is happening. But in general, I never felt part of the theatre that Pakistan is in. Of course, Indians are part of another type of daily ups and downs. This is the first time I felt really nervous and a faint feeling that disaster may knock at our doors one day if Pakistani people continue to slide down the path of hope. If one day hordes of Pakistanis walk down into India, we will have a disaster in South Asia. India cannot sustain economically, politically and socially anyone coming in if numbers - whether they are minorities from Pakistan or Tamils from Srilanka or internally displaced Bangladeshis (into Assam). Today this is going under the radar only be use of the numbers (just a trickle). But any large scale will create a havoc - even if it is internal displacement within Indian states.
September 12, 2012 7:28 am
As an Indian i feel appreciated after reading this letter but in other hand if i see it with Pakistani eyes it is solely demotivating and cruel truth. Asylum is not an option, fight with an evil and dispel the misma is an option. If you are patriotic then clean the dust of your Nation. it is solely coward action that you are leaving your country for your personal betterment and still saying i love you & miss you Pakistan. We are looking Pakistani liberals with great hope that one day we will see stable developing democracy in pakistan. Every nation has some problem it doesn't mean people will start searching asylum. in last i would like to say quitting is not an appropriate option when an intellect class of any country start doing so then who will bring change??
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:28 am
I am sure she knows about Kashmir and if she did write about it you would writhe...
September 11, 2012 7:14 pm
and the 7th column sells her fake dreams of freedom of expression, human rights, equal rights among untouchables living next to the indian bed of RAVI !
September 11, 2012 11:46 pm
People fail to understand what you are saying "haters gona hate". We fail to see our problems and say everything is going to be allright. When? I see people adjusting to what is happening no voices are being raised. Since 65 years we have been on a self destruction path and i guess there is no light at the end of this tunnel.
September 11, 2012 6:56 pm
yeh dugdugi akhir kab tak bajjate raho ge ?
September 12, 2012 1:35 am
Let us put it this way? Both the women expose. One exposes the her skin and the rips off the mask of hypocrisy and exposes the real face of Pakistan with all it's faults?
September 11, 2012 4:05 pm
Just google dude! I know it is hard to put your country's name with wrong keywords in google, but please give it a try or click here. No 3rd world country is innocent. Dont think you are the holy cow. One thing I must admit is that your media is doing wonderful job of hiding all the issues from Indians. That's how the media should be, it should not promote violence.
September 11, 2012 8:32 pm
The Pakistani Hindus are still waiting for citizenship despite many being in India for more than 6 - 8 years. But, Bangladeshi Muslims are getting citizenship with all rights within weeks. Try that route!
September 12, 2012 7:17 am
September 12, 2012 3:53 am
My heart bleeds for Ms Fazia, and in fact all my brothers and sisters in Pakistan. I am amazed to at the type of openness and freedom with which Dawn publishes. India has a lot to learn from you.
September 12, 2012 7:34 am
A complete piece of nonsense
September 12, 2012 7:35 am
.Dear Asad, Just you realized that Faiza has succeeded to arouse your self stem. Her article is like a wake-up call to all who loves their mother land. You should agree that Pakistan is not in her best of shape, neither India is. But some how India has managed to put her on the right track and moving slowly. In case of Pakistan, she is nowhere near to the track One need not to point out the reasons. They are many. But the most important one is fanaticism & intolerance. You love your religion; that is ok but do not hart others. Your excessive eudemonism on your beloved religion is the fall and reflected in your own post. Today you are as a Muslims also divided lot. You see, there are many sects in all major religion. But they do not kill each other or they try to correct others. All they do practice same religion in their own way. Instate of criticizing Faiza & Dawn, you should thankful them
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:36 am
'this woman' has a name and it is Ms. Faiza Mirza...Mind it....
September 12, 2012 7:38 am
bro well
Rashmi Talwar
September 12, 2012 7:40 am
Dear Faiza Mirza , Ur letter makes a very valid point but the fact of the matter is that the only solution for minorities and muslims in Pakistan is not escapism but to improve their lot. I know it is not easy but for India to open its migration to Pakistanis would be a huge responsibility for itself, given as they say 'India is already dealing with population explosion'. By allowing all the persecuted sections of society in Pakistan a humanitarian asylum will be seen as creating fissures in both countries wherein many communities live together. There would be questions raised on facilities to be granted to them and how much . In the current perspective, of talks of peace and harmony between the two countries the opening of asylum for Pakistanis would mean a denigrating Pakistan and as oneupmanship indulged by the stronger nation i.e. India. Despite being progressive India is also facing its own problems. Instead of seeking asylum Pakistanis can at best become friends with India. In that scenario with more and more interactions with each other on trade, cultural, art history and other common platforms mindsets are bound to widen and new dimensions would open for them. Only then would they be able to become discernible about what and how much is beneficial and what needs to be discarded. ...This is only my humble opinion ...Rashmi Talwar Amritsar India ... Email :
September 12, 2012 7:09 am
pathetic article....n pity for the writer.....i have christian n Hindus friends even...n they are as patriotic as v r....based on one or two examples in this country, u cant blame the whole nation....anybody who wants to quit rather than trying to fix the problems z surely looser..
September 11, 2012 8:22 pm
well said yaser
September 12, 2012 4:13 am
September 12, 2012 1:25 am
You come from a strong family background? Do tell us what you think of a 11 year old girl,with a chromosomal disorder being framed by a Muslim cleric and to top it all,seems to have been raped too? I am eager to hear what opinion a man from strong family background has to say about it?
September 11, 2012 11:19 pm
I think you too have an interesting view !
September 10, 2012 8:13 am
Awwwww.. Visit anytime Faiza. You are welcome.
September 11, 2012 6:18 pm
WOW!!! WOW!!!!! & WOW!!!! Fazia, You really touched the deep, most sensitive nerve. Look at the fury? GREATER THE TRUTH, MORE IT STINGS. DON'T EVER STOP WRITING.
September 11, 2012 6:20 pm
Superb response Rahul! Well said! He was the one who started this mess!
September 11, 2012 5:52 pm
Mr. Faisal !What is your (India's) turn? It isn't 7th century?Fanatics are going to be crushed once and for all sooner rather than later.
September 11, 2012 7:25 pm
Because India is secular and has a lot in common with Pakistan.
September 12, 2012 1:15 am
Liked the last line!!!
September 12, 2012 5:32 am
what you think american need help from india ? for attack on pakistan ???/ Did you Know size of Utter pradesh state[ in india ] and pakistan ? as a indian i don't see pakistan is an enemy don't worth it
September 12, 2012 1:17 am
truly said mr.noble.pakistanis are a jealous lot and cannot see others suceed even their own.
September 11, 2012 7:34 pm
She is merely conveying a point, why is it that she cannot be a patriot while trying to objectively criticize her own homeland, why does she need to cover the filth that stinks so bad that the whole world knows about it. Pakistan is in the news everyday and usually not for good reasons.
September 10, 2012 1:34 pm
Imran - I'm with you that we as citizens need to highlight the problems we see and hold the relevant parties accountable. But this is not a very difficult first step - these days, in Pakistani media, you will not struggle to find negative views on the myriad issues we face. What you will not find as easily are the right recommendations to take us forward. Education reform and our plan on that front, tax policy, and many others - these are far more critical (and constructive) topics to discuss rather than the nonsense that Faiza has written to get a few clicks.
September 10, 2012 12:53 pm
go to saudi arabia
September 11, 2012 11:28 pm
Indian Goverment should make special policies to give citizenship to all Hinud, Sikhs and christians of Pakistan, whoever is willing to make India their home. And (un)fortunately, for muslims of Pakistan, I know for fact, that they will not be able to get asylam or citizenship of India, because of our goverment policies and most importantly, our mutual mistrust. Ths is the only logical solution, and our policies are also moving in the same direction. Within the next 10 years, we will not hear any stories of atrosities against minorities in Pakistan. And Ms Fazia, you are a wonderful and brave person, and for your own good, it is better for you to migrate to any other countries. Inspite of being so intelleligent and qualified, Gulf and arabs wont give you your due respect, as we all south asians are treated as third grade residents (we are never eligible for their citizenship). The best option for you is to move to any westeern countries. I’m sure you have already moved to one of those progressive and just countries in the west. And i wish you all tthe best for your future.
September 12, 2012 11:39 am
Somehow you don't seem to get her point at all! Its not about moving to India but about the unrest Pakistan society is in and its sorry state of affairs where people are killed in broad daylight by extremists. There is absolute political unrest and she is only expressing the disgust as a Pakistani citizen. I am sure you are not proud of the phase your country is going through either. Instead of abusing her, join hands with Pakistani citizens like her so that voice of common man makes the difference
September 12, 2012 3:55 am
Not a bad way of gaining cheap popularity, Keep writing you might get status of item girl from bollywood.
September 11, 2012 6:34 pm
Do I want to migrate to India ? If it is such a good a country to live in, then why those thousands of Indians prefer to live in UK or US ? If given choice,Ms. Mirza will do the same.
Honest Opnion
September 12, 2012 1:09 am
Looks written from heart.. i liked it very much
Ali (Islamabad)
September 12, 2012 7:45 am
My answer to the writer: Speak for yourself, I don't want to move to India and I know so many like myself. Instead of fixing a problem you want to run away from the problem and that too to another problem(no offense to Indians who keep trolling these boards). Grass is always greener on the other side. You are the people who voted for this government and now you start blaming everyone else, and don't tell me you did not vote, if that's the case its even worse. Stop blaming everyone else and look at yourself and see what you can do to help, how involved are you in trying to change all of this mess. What are you actually doing to help? And you think migrating to India will give you peace that you are looking for without struggling for it. I pity your state of mind. Tell me which country in the world has not gone through wars and killings? Which country did not go through bad and struggling times. Unfortunately for us, currently we are going through this it doesn't mean that I will run away from here and I am sure there many many like me and of course few like you. I will wait and die for the day this country becomes the best country in the world. And "that day will come"
September 11, 2012 7:47 pm
Given a chance you too!!
September 11, 2012 12:48 pm
people like this writer who exhaust all available resources of our country to achieve their goals, who ever she is today is only because of pakistan. now when its really time to pay back she talks like a looser. i by no means support any of the so called religious zealots, crazies or fanatics but i strongly believe that our country needs us more than any time before. utterly shameful and disgusting article
Ahmad Nadeem (PAK)
September 12, 2012 1:03 am
So Ms. Mirza you want to migrate to India ? Who is stopping you? You managed to create a FAN -BASE in India. About time to buy one way ticket !
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:10 am
who founded the newspaper? I think Jinnah himself. Wonder if it is a shame for him too. Shame on you Ronnie.
Azhar uddin (Lahore, Pak).
September 12, 2012 12:34 am
Well partition has taken place, it has been 65 years. If you regret, go to Indian Consulate, get a visa, claim asylum - For us one less India's lover.
September 12, 2012 8:24 am
The author should know that India is already holding the Rohingya Muslims, Afghan Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, etc. as refugees - which number in millions. It has given shelter to political refugees of the likes of Taslima Nasreen. In addition to this India has Afghan Christians and Burmese Chin Christians as refugees. Tibetans were also given the refugee for which India bore the brunt from China. In the past also India gave shelter to Zoroastrians - descendants of whom are known as the Parsis in India - when they were persecuted in their homeland. So, if you carefully research, you will find that India has millions of refugees from Abrahamic religions already.
Ali India
September 12, 2012 1:29 am
Mr Khan. You have completely missed the point of the article!
Shafaq Khan-New Delhi
September 11, 2012 6:49 am
Nice Article.. I can understand your Pain... As your Government Providing Citizenship/Shelter for affected Afgani Muslim people Only Indian Government do same. As your Government Not Providing Citizenship/Shelter for affected Afgani Sikh/Hindu people Only Indian Government do same.
September 10, 2012 12:51 pm
Perhaps this letter was not on your behalf. In India, the long arm of the law eventually caught up with the culprits. Look at Gujrat case, or Orissa case, or even Samjutha case. In Pakistan, the law does not have an arm at all.
September 11, 2012 6:21 pm
I guess even after living in UK for a long time you still didnt learn how to write English :o). No wonder you came back ;o)
September 11, 2012 5:13 pm
We will hate to admit that you are are right. If you go anywhere in the world you are safe and you come back to your homeland and you are murdered, what good is that country to you.
September 11, 2012 5:13 pm
Faisal, Keep dreaming....learning one lesson did not make Pak wise enough to treat Baluchi's with respect. May be time for lesson number 2......
September 12, 2012 12:49 am
bangladeshis are darling of congress vote bank hindus are 2nd class citizen
September 12, 2012 11:04 am
Calm down folks, it's just a newspaper blog. Tomorrow we'll all forget about it and move on. As they say "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.". Cheers.
September 11, 2012 6:25 pm
So Faiza, are you actually leaving for India? Is that your idea of safer pastures? Or is it somewhere in the West (as I suspect)? I think after penning this article it would be India's loss if you migrate to the West.
September 11, 2012 11:14 pm
Hi Ryan, I am sorry to say that you do not have your facts right about the founder of the Islamic religion or the creation of Pakistan. I have studied Islam in depth and have had the opportunity to study the history of Indian subcontinent. There is no such thing as a moderate or an extremist muslim. Islam in itself a religion of moderation and the Christians or Jews or Zoroastians are not Kafirs according to Islam. The people who kill, maim and destroy in the name of Islam are as much muslims as Hitler was a Christian. You are most welcome to question what I am saying and I will be happy to answer.
September 12, 2012 8:03 am
By the way, for your information you don't have any other option Mr. Kashif, but to die in Pakistan only. Which nation will accept hardliner like you and what else can you do in Pakistan. Even your all weather friend don't like to invite any Pakistani migrant.
asad tirmizi
September 12, 2012 12:41 am
I literally cried after reading this article. Made me so upset, never never ever would i leave this country ever. i believe in it. i own its faults but for not a single second do i doubt that one day it will be a Pakistan for us all. But this women, made me cry so badly. She made me so hurt, all day long i have been recoiling from demotivation. Then i decided that no for this another \\”veena malik\\” looking for some cross border felicitations. i am not going to feel down. i am going to go and give something to this country i love, i live in, i own. and i went outside saw a beggar kid, asked him if he had food. he said, no, i bought him food, gave him some money. and asked him if he loves Pakistan. he said, yes ! thats my country. And then i came back satisfied. I knew i got my answer. And then i saw Miss Faiza\\’s Twitter and i came to know, she is not even living in pakistan. I am so upset by this yellow journalism. that how can some one not living in Pakistan pass a judgement on \\”most pakistanis\\”. Make them demotivated. Make them cry. and then laugh \\”oh they didnt get the underlying message\\”. While i was dead from demotivation she was taking marriage proposals from Indians on twitter. ofcourse she made there day. Never before in Pak history has such a false, Lie, Demotivating article written. And she timed it perfectly. On our Father of Nation\’s anniversary. Maybe living in her new home outside Pakistan, she forgot about it. But she sure knows in her comfy abode, what we pakistani want underhand. Shame on her and shame on dawn for such an unfounded article. My friends, dont get demotivated. Miss faiza made the day for indians. Lets just bow our head down and give back something to society. One day i will write her a message where this parasite lives, that come see My Pakistan the beautiful, the just, the one for everyone. Forget about her cheap analysis. but please all of you complain to dawn about how can she make such unfounded claims.
September 11, 2012 10:20 pm
what about the muslims being killed in india to this day??
September 11, 2012 6:13 pm
do you have any minorities left in pakistan, that we could tell what backlash would have been their had 58 sunni muslims set on fire by hindus. before we explain anything, it is you who must explain, why muslims could not retain the minorities in their country?
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:33 am
we want to earn DOLLARS and send them back to India....We want to have palatial house in USA and have an exact copy of it in Ludhiana.....that is what we are for in West.
Shyam Sethi
September 11, 2012 8:22 pm
Ms. Mirza, very well written. Your readers will miss the point if they think this is some sort of "Grass is Greener" in India article--it is not! Pakistan needs to do much more to ensure the safety of not only its minorities but also its hapless citizens subjected to random violence almost daily. Well written
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 11, 2012 3:54 pm
Umar, Dr raina has forgotten that half of India had no electricity on last week. lack of knowledge or intelegence I'll leave to to the "Dr".
h l
September 12, 2012 2:44 am
you are doing exactly what this author was trying to convey. Thank you. You should ask question why are these things happening around our society and what can we change to bring peace for everyone, yes peace in Pakistan.
Afzal K.
September 11, 2012 6:09 pm
Never ran away Sir. I just happened to be here for a short while, just passing through,,coming back home very soon.In the meantime you hold the flag of patriotism.
September 11, 2012 9:20 pm
Hang on Mr. Tahir, stay put. "First they came for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me." -Martin-Niemöller
September 11, 2012 7:08 pm
you mean an impure land USA, became civilized after abandonning puritanism ?
September 12, 2012 12:41 am
Good on you Faiza for raising such a critical issue that plagues our country. I sincerely wish that my fellow countrymen could decipher the difference between satire and alleged self propulsion. Instead of lashing their tongues at the corrupt politicians they lash out at the very ink that bleeds itself dry trying desperately to raise awareness about crucial issues. I only wish that my fellow countrymen would direct a fraction of the same anger towards the corrupt politicians who they themselves have empowered instead of turning on you for simply raising awareness. God Bless Your Brother in Cause
September 12, 2012 10:57 am
What an absolute piece of trash by an ingorant person who does not have any idea about the problems India has with her people in general and minorities in particular. I can give her a lot of examples but I am not going to waste my time doing her job that is "journalist" do your research thoroughly.
Garib Manus
September 11, 2012 5:32 pm
What does it have to do with "...from a woman"? BTW, immigration doesn't mean breaking all the ties.
Maj S Hasan Shah
September 11, 2012 5:32 pm
September 10, 2012 8:03 pm
Bury your head in the sand. That works!! LOL.
September 11, 2012 8:23 pm
i endorse ur view
September 11, 2012 10:30 pm
do you remember your extended family now Bangladesh!
Laeeq, NY
September 10, 2012 8:02 pm
Why it is so hard for every one to accept the todays's reality of Pakistan. Why we are complaining against the author. Did Hindus did not cross the border to seek Asylum? Did lot of Ahmadies not migrated to Europe, USA, Canada or Australia where they are given Asylum in a matter of few months. And now for my brother Hazara Shias?. There are lot of countries of the world with big heart will accept you with open arms. Let Pakistan be for Pakistani's.
September 10, 2012 8:02 pm
I myself too read here in Dawn that some considerable christian familes moved to live in Pak. forests. In a way i think Umar Aziz is right saying "Our Minorities are living here peacefully than India"
September 11, 2012 11:38 am
Yes but they got better choices
September 11, 2012 7:49 pm
Did Javed Akhtar tell you that? Last time I checked he was not homeless yet!!!LOL
September 10, 2012 8:01 pm
Leave Faiza, please leave! Guess what, you don't represent Pakistan and you don't speak for us!
September 11, 2012 6:26 pm
Nobody wants to read your comment, I wish our media learns something from Indian media.
September 10, 2012 9:39 am
Most welcome .... we lived together for thousands of years ....
September 10, 2012 8:00 pm
They do my friend. Its just that you do not know about it. Highly qualified does not mean a guy with a bachelor's degree. We have plenty of them in India.
September 11, 2012 7:12 pm
She is just trying to make a point that country has reached a point where anything is better than status-quo. By the way, many Indians have decided to move back to India from US and it is a fact, just Google it.
September 12, 2012 8:31 am
Cynical mindset who can only see dark side of the picture!
September 10, 2012 12:53 pm
And you will feed them with your pocket.....Have some heart with our own poor citizen
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 6:33 am
thank you sir for not wanting an Indian visa.
September 12, 2012 6:20 am
I must "salute" all those "philosophers" managed to read between the lines. Someone is rebuking in your face and you are trying to find the "point" in it and applaud the so-called writer!. What a "dignity"!
Syed Abbas of Toronto
September 12, 2012 3:36 am
Faiza Mirza should ask herself only 1 question. If she were in India, would she have the freedom to write such a column, and solicit such a lively discussion? Freedom has a price. Learn to pay it.
September 11, 2012 7:29 pm
Another Veena Malik who is looking for bollywood glamour.
September 11, 2012 9:14 pm
Truth hurts, doesn't it folks? Stop blaming the writer and and fix the problem. Its about time.
September 12, 2012 7:10 am
Not fair, lot of English natives also write far worse English. One should appreciate the patriotic zeal in Furrukh.
September 12, 2012 12:05 am
Shows the enemy mind of the writer. She should be punished hard on this, she will never get the citizenship even after she gets punishment because noone likes such a sick mind as a member of society.
September 10, 2012 9:40 am
Shame on you and newspaper for writing this article....You are running away to countries who are causing all the disturbance in your country...i think you should be exiled out of here
September 11, 2012 8:22 pm
dear both ... we all need more literacy, india n paki ... dont put religion at it ... clergy business men r common in this geographic area in all religions ... they use itt for money ... get out of that cover of blames ... its time
September 11, 2012 10:14 pm
by this posting ms mirza has joined the ranks of scum like salman rushdie,tasleema nasreen and ayan hirsi. probably mirza does not know the plight of women in India. 3000 foetuses of baby girls are aborted every year by mothers who do not want to have daughters. Widows are treated like lepers and males are perverts. prostitution is probably hthe highest in the world. mirza,stll want to come to india? ms mirza watch a programme called 'Savdhaan India' and also aameer khan's 'satyamev jayate' before u decide on India.
September 11, 2012 6:03 pm
Why the writer did not pick China or Iran for migration? Perhaps she wanted to have some controversy so she just picked the old rival India as usual.
September 11, 2012 5:45 pm
@faisal You are brave and truly patriotic. People like you, will change the course Pakistan has taken since Zia Idealogy. May god bless you with long life and health. And god bless Pakistan with more and more people like you.
Ram Krishan Sharma
September 12, 2012 6:06 am
Dear Devil : You have spoken the Truth and now I am one of your devotees.
September 10, 2012 8:12 pm
We have lived together under Hindu rule too. You guys think that history started only after the Muslims invaded this place and converted people to Islam. Before those dark ages, we did live together under Hindu rule when your ancestors were still Hindus. Its amazing how a whole country can live in denial!
September 10, 2012 8:18 am
Lady, You are talking rubbish, Pakistani Government is most unethical.Pakistan propagandists, in order to hide the shameful crimes of the Muslim League leaders, a part of whose programme it was to carve out a purely Muslim State and to eliminate religious minorities from it, have put forth a mischievous piece of propaganda that Sikhs (and by implication Hindus as well) left Pakistan by a design. Mat this ‘Design’ could have been passes ordinary human comprehension. The official Pakistan propaganda pamphlet contains this fantastic view: “Sikhs……… stayed behind in Lyallpur till after the Partition and then (were) deliberately evacuated by Sikh leaders to East Punjab without any apparent immediate cause, seems to point out to a revision of the ‘Plan’ necessitated by some unexpected sequence of events.” This remark contains several pieces of deliberate falsehoods and a lot of suppressio veri, besides mischievous suggestions. Let us analyse it here: Read more:
September 11, 2012 5:53 pm
Just like what America did in Iraq and Afghanistan? I'm sure people are living a joyous life in those countries after the British and American invasion, right? Get over with this defeating mentality and work towards making this country a better place.
September 10, 2012 8:11 pm
And also because Pakistani Newspapers have more news about India than Indian Papers, except for The Hindu, which is a fabulous paper! :-)
Aimir Khan
September 12, 2012 3:35 am
Assalam and good on you. She is after something else. I have been living in Australia for nearly 26 yrs with a respectable government job but still call Pakistan my home and love it. I am coming soon after 5 yrs to visit this beautiful country for a few months. Love it. Amir Ali Khan, Brisbane Australia.
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 7:04 am
a cry in wilderness that a thousand people have responded tu.
September 11, 2012 11:01 pm
why dream on? many pakistanis work hard in europe, UK, US etc and the obtain citizenship after a number of years....i think you misunderstood the context of my comment...
September 12, 2012 5:47 am
I would like to move to a place where security, economy, and opportunity are better than Pakistan. But I have no intention to ever migrate to India. I would choose troubles of Pakistan over tolerating India. This is the only thing I would tell PM Singh if I happen to talk to him. By the way, I have no desire of ever meeting him or speaking to him. I would rather meet a couple of top Pakistani government people and tell them what I think they must do to improve Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 5:30 pm
India has accepted Muslims from Bangladesh, afganistan; buddhists from Tibet, Hindus from Srilanka....There is no such policy to favor one religion, although some people may feel sympathy based on the religion.... Sincerely, An Indian and a Human
September 11, 2012 7:27 pm
Where are the good people of Pakistan, unfortunately, they are not in Pakistan, "most of them" have left and they are probably never coming back to call it home again.
Garib Manus
September 11, 2012 5:38 pm
Dear Ghost, It does not help to malign India. Yes, it is far from perfect; but how many Muslims or Christians or Sikhs have asked for an asylum? Our PM is a Sikh, Defense Minister is a Christian, and not long ago, our President was Dr. APJ Kalam. We are a proud SECULAR nation.
September 10, 2012 8:07 pm
So how do you think Pakistan will come out of current mess? If there is any change, it is only going bad to worse. It is easy to be emotional but one hast to be practical too.
Zalim Singh
September 12, 2012 2:48 am
great article. look at the number of comments.
September 11, 2012 5:29 pm
seems like anyone can write an article for dawn nowadays. Hey dawn, if you can hire this worthless journalist..hire me. I have a degree from NYU, Masters and PHD from Mcgill. I will get your more attention with more controversial articles than Mrs. Mirza can ever dream of. Since it seems this is what your paper is starting to dwell on.
September 11, 2012 5:20 pm
dont get mad. Try to understand motive of this article........
September 11, 2012 6:47 pm
The write might have put some spices into the article - but this is true that Most of Pakistanis with reasonable worth are already migrating to either Canada, Australia, and other countries. I am one of them. The situation is not that BAD - but the environment has become unbearable and we Pakistanis are very Ambitious people. Many of us are moving to Middle East or else were but Pakistan. And I bet - if you open up Canadian or Australian Visa - most of the country would like to MOVE/migrate there. I once met an Indian Couple - who was flying back to India for his baby delivery - when I asked him why - he told me that he wish his kid to be INDIAN. I did the other way around - I flew from Pakistan to Canada to have Canadian Children. I wish my kids to have BLUE Passport - which they did.
September 11, 2012 7:23 am
I have many friends who live in India of Pakistani birth, but because their grandparents were born in India were able to settle in India. A country that has a Hindu majority, but is led by a Italian catholic woman, has a Sikh PM, and muslim VP. For all it's woes, India still is a secular nation. As a Christian i can vouch for it.
September 12, 2012 5:34 am
Asad, A Pakistan in turmoil is really bad news for India. We Indians want a stable and prosperous Pakistan. If all that Faiza has written are lies as you say, good for Pakistan! Frankly Faiza is not the only one who has written about the problems in Pakistan today. I agree that no Pakistan Muslim will ever seek to move to India, I am sure Faiza herself won't. Pakistanis are too proud a people ever to do it. Don't let that sadden you! Every counry goes through bad times and Pakistan is in a little bad shape now. I am sure it will get out of it soon. Please protect the minorities a little better. The world has great trust and hopes on the people of Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 9:40 am
Faiza, Although I realize that this article is not really meant for Manmohan singh but your fellow countrymen, but still I am going to nitpick on a factual error. Laxmikanta Chawla is not member of Indian govt., she's from the oppostion party. But yes she's part of Punjab govt. which is ruled by opposition alliance. Also, Indian govt. granted asylum to Hindus coz they asked for it. I am not sure if people of other faiths also asked the asylum and they were refused. There were Sikh families from punjab and NWFP who asked for asylum and were given by India. Can you provide some data to substantiate the charge that India is refusing asylum to other faiths?
September 11, 2012 6:47 pm
suneel ji zarrah nawazi he aapki !
p kumar
September 10, 2012 8:15 pm
'the real difference between the two countries........' is a remarkable observation
September 11, 2012 7:19 pm
This guy needs to try his luck in laughter challenge. Every one should get a chance to laugh on you
September 11, 2012 7:20 pm
MJKhan, you completely missed the point my friend!
September 11, 2012 7:23 pm
hahahah did they understand those perished women, kids, youth under thousands of megatons of bombs, who were flagged as afghan, Waziris civilians ? or under military rule in Kashmir with 800.000 indian troups ?
Imran - UAE
September 10, 2012 8:04 pm
Javed Akhtar with his wife Shabana Azmi could not buy a house in Mumbai, india, coz he was muslim! Ms. Faiza you may try.
September 10, 2012 9:26 am
Look who is teaching India about secularism!
September 12, 2012 8:45 am
zoya - thats a sensible and well thought out argument and i am pleased to see a common pakistani gal standing tall amongst all the other pakistanis around... i know what you talking about, when i've seen how pakistanis/bangladeshis have to hide their identities or rather call themselves indians.. opening indian restos.. for obvious reasons... its a hard fact to digest being a pakistani and takes lots of guts to admit... dear, i can feel the pain and love for your country and can surely tell you one thing, for people like you and faiza, i still see hope for pakistan... i see new horizons and new beginnings for your beloved country... if you have the courage to accept the wrongs and fight for the truth, there is no way you can be defeated....i pray to almighty with all my heart for you and your country.... stay put and keep fighting.
September 12, 2012 7:38 am
Dear Faiza, No independent poll agency could have doen better to measure level of plusieurs factors in Pakistani, as well as Indian, readers of dawn. Some that come to my mind are Despondency against extremism, Mutual acceptance in case of liberal visa regimes etc. This is also an excellent data base and can be a basis for a good thesis on sociological evolution too if a similar exercise can be run after a year or so. You may have to use similar statistical tools as for predicting election results from a small sample of voters.
September 11, 2012 6:52 pm
Gujarat is in india and Gujraat is in Pakistan, both are gojjars, but only one had Samjhota express, guess which one ?
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 6:23 am
sir the grass on other side may not be green but we still have grass left. You have no grass left because you, as Bhutto advised you 'ate grass to make the bomb'.
September 11, 2012 9:16 pm
Again, sir, you do not posess the capability to hear the truth. Continue to keep your head in sand like many others in Pakistan, The Land Of The Pure...
September 11, 2012 6:27 pm
Great idea Mirza, but who in their right mind would want to re-unite with Pakistan? who would want to bring in the worst mess in the world to their home? who would want to cope with such extreme religiosity and closed minds!
September 11, 2012 5:07 pm
Habib, Muslim community is visionless, egoistic, non smart, brainless, & getting fucked up itself due to american strategy. It will soon perish because of its fundamentalism only.
September 10, 2012 12:44 pm
What is the defination of democracy in pakistan.
G. Din
September 10, 2012 12:43 pm
"Be the change you want to see"- Mahatma Gandhi
September 12, 2012 9:12 am
good response shahid and dont reply to optimistic people like the two above, they actually don't like to understand the reality of issue.
September 12, 2012 9:20 am
Mr.B, there are more Urdu speaking Muslims, and experts at that, in India than in Pakistan, today.
September 12, 2012 9:22 am
You were getting personal Parveen Kumar coz my country is my family and you're writing things about it without any solid evidence just like your Gov which accuses Mumbai attack or any other tragedy to Pakistan without having any solid evidence to back that.
September 11, 2012 9:01 pm
If you are referring to the author's article, then I would say you are taking it too literally. She is not suggesting that everyone should move to India, in my humble opinion, she is trying to make a point that things are really bad and I believe when thing are at that level, a revolt of a revolution kind should be in the offing, however, that is not the case because we just like to suffer under the burden of poor governance. Again, where is the Pakistan Spring PEOPLE???
Mandar J
September 11, 2012 8:58 pm
good try Imran... half information... every one knows truth... 19% population of Mumbai is Muslim... at some places some people can not buy home because of eating habits... major rich population where may be couple wanted to stay is vegetarian... (Jains)...
p kumar
September 12, 2012 7:25 pm
in that case pakistan would have been ruled by indians including mauryans,guptas,palas and sikhs for a longer period.Porus and Dahir were pakistani
September 10, 2012 7:58 pm
"India lost the administrative control of their 17 states (provinces) in their east in their West the Punjab and Kashmir running an independence movement the south of India is in a mess of deprived marahaties where is the piece in India their court have confirmed the mass atrocities towards minorities majorly of Muslims." Dude, you have fallen to the false propaganda as well! I am from the east of India and all that you said is factually incorrect. All it does is gives you a false sense of happiness. "Pakistan is facing resistance from round the glob every single country is busy in offensive inelegance against this country and countries like India acting like hub of all such activities whole world is supporting India financially and politically and that is the only reason of India is surviving. " You really think that Pakistan is that important a country? I hope you come back to reality as soon as possible.
September 11, 2012 6:16 pm
Great Idea. Now we can let the Jihadist bombings and discrimination of minorities begin in India. Thanks again for the sentiments of Bhai Bandhi. But No Thanks. Pakistani restaurants are NOT Indian restaurants despite what the signs say. And neither are the predispositions and intolerances of opposing viewpoints. I will bet you will not post my letter in proof of that. Prove me wrong.
Capt Victor
September 12, 2012 9:36 am
Your comment clearly declares your mindset.
September 10, 2012 8:21 pm
We don't want Pakistan to merge with us. An infected appendix is best cut out and thrown away from one's body.
September 10, 2012 11:07 am
please bring your land along with you
MAH, Abu Dhabi
September 12, 2012 5:14 am
You speak only for yourself Faiza Mirza! We all grieve for the horrendous killings but that does not mean we loose our sense of balance and reality. You need to speak to some of the victims of Gujarat massacres and study how it had any affect on the Indian psyche ... actually none! In fact the person behind this bloodbath was reelected with even higher mandate!!!! The terrorists here are killing people who they don't know. In Gujarat, from first hand accounts, it was mostly neighbours and people living around for years and years with amicable, I am sure only superficially, relations. Who is more twisted, cold hearted and dangerous??? Get reality check lady!
September 12, 2012 9:50 am
no country- no pass- no religion -no problem.
p kumar
September 12, 2012 7:15 pm
if your country is your family how come you said that it doesn't matter if 1% hindus go away.are pakistan's hindus not part of your that case you should probably say only muslims are your family.the fact that they were stopped by interior minister was well reported in pakistani newspapers;it was not a statement from india.being personal is a sign of weakness.
September 12, 2012 7:10 pm
Imran- You just proved Godwin's law :-)
September 10, 2012 9:34 am
Nonsense lack of knowledge. don't have idea about ground realities. only to take benefit of the situation she is creating drama.
Halima J
September 10, 2012 9:28 am
In the end, she says she is leaving the country "for safer pastures where my life will be valued and respected." I've been following Faiza's writings, and she HAS been branded as an infidel, anti-Islam and pro-India.
September 10, 2012 11:05 am
Sister , you are welcome anytime!!! But as you have mentioned , "I saw a poster featuring Jinnah with a small line stating “Pakistan needs you”, definitely Pakistan needs more and more people like you and not hardliners like TTP.
September 12, 2012 8:37 am
Why you need to show your foreign degree to show your worthiness to be a journalist in Dawn ? Have you ever heard any Paki, showing best degree from a Paki madrasa to get a job in NY-Times.
September 11, 2012 8:32 pm
Migrating to India will make difference ?
September 12, 2012 7:20 am
Dear Usman I am sure many feel that way but pride and ego prevent them from saying it. However even though an Indian let me assure you the India or for that matter no other country is a land of milk and honey. Every country has its own problems and people must work to overcome them. The most positive thing about India is that no one is waiting for any messiah or saviour to descend and save them, they strongly believe they have the ability and capacity to write their own destiny. My humble suggestion to my fellow brothers and sisters across the border is that do not pledge your future to others - Military, Politicians or Mullah's. You have to be the agents of change you want to see in your own country. If you are sincere and work positively for change, HE will make it happen.
Waqas Malik
September 10, 2012 12:45 pm
Perhaps the writer of this article has previously resided overseas for a considerable period of time... hence, out of touch with the sentiments of the general pakistani populace. As she claims to be leaving Pakistan shortly for, "— a place where I can express myself freely without being threatened and flagged as a heretic", ...
September 10, 2012 11:04 am
It is a well documented fact that minorities in Pakistan are persecuted with the sanction from the state. International community, including India, should give immediate asylum to all minorities in Pakistan, not just Hindus. Members of the majority religion, who feel unsafe, are free to try to immigrate to other countries but can't be offered asylum because unfortunately they are part of the majority group which is persecuting the minorities with the sanction from the state. Their best bet is to change the state policies if their bid to immigrate to other countries fails.
Pankaj Patel(USA)
September 11, 2012 6:28 pm
Faiza,Very provocative article.I hope some in Pakistan especially intelligentsia become proactive after this and do not let only Mullahs to be proactive and call shots.Written with good intent by an honest Pakistani loving loving her country.About granting asylum to Hindus it is because they ask for it.I believe Hindu,Sikh and Zoroastrian should be granted asylum because they have no where to go.Other religious minorities can be considered on case by case basis.Journalist should also be on the priority basis.India is home to many refugees Hindu/Sikh from Pakistan,Buddhists from Tibet and Myanmar Muslims and Hindus from Bangladesh,Tamils from Shrilanka.They all have become productive citizens and so will be Pakistanis.No hateful Mullah please.
September 11, 2012 11:37 am
well said, although India is no paradise itself.
September 10, 2012 9:05 pm
While I agree with "stop hating the country and start hating the crime" statement, I call total bullshit on the statement that millions in India want to leave India for any of its neighbors. Rao tries to put it "as a matter of fact", but that statement is total crass.
Hindu Brother
September 11, 2012 4:07 pm
Honesty is Islam, Truth is Islam, Bravery is Islam You are all of that my dear... My best wishes to you and respect for the above qualities of a true muslim An Indian brother
September 10, 2012 1:12 pm
Yes state does not interfere in anyones religious matter. Yet fails to provide protection when others do.
September 11, 2012 4:41 pm
In a country where people like you and the Faiza lives will never have bad future.
Amarnath Reddy
September 11, 2012 4:40 pm
You consider yourself student of international affairs...?? What a pity..!!
September 11, 2012 4:39 pm
What a sad reflection of immature and loser mentality with no sense of dignity in being who you are. I guess this mind set is quite prevalent in confused educated upper middle class youth who consider it as fashionable. It can be very well be a blog and some ones... I wonder how little you know and how narrow is your perspective about humans, societies and dignity.
Krishna Bhagawan (@KrishnaBhagawan)
September 10, 2012 1:11 pm
IT is a backhanded way of saying india is a Hindu country.
September 10, 2012 1:16 pm
Lol. Are you yourself welcomed in India ? Marzi ki perhai job security unemployement allowance if not on job 100% security 24 hours running water uninterrupted power supply No untouchables No muslim genocide Perhaps its isnt only the Pakistanis who Kid themselves :P
Zar Khan Wazir
September 11, 2012 12:59 pm
i fully agree. Not in million years would I like to cross over the border. Speak for yourself madam!
September 11, 2012 12:59 pm
Going to australia or britian or usa or canada is our birthright mate you will never understand it, you should ask youself why will those goverment accept us ,it is because they see somethink special in us than others , that special think, you will never understand or accept to know that you must be an INDIAN
Amol Choudhary
September 10, 2012 1:17 pm
You guys always remain in a state of denial to accept that India is way too ahead of Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 8:29 am
Wow Gaurav, that is the spirit
September 11, 2012 3:32 pm
Division is the fate of th Sub-continent my Friend. You saw it with Pakistan being carved out in 47. We saw it in 71 courtesy you guys making good use of the opportunity and the geographical dis-connect. So historically it's your turn again. Look inwards and you would know what I mean. Putting a secular blanket cannot subside the religious tint, now more visible in Indian rhetoric then ever. We have learnt our lesson the hard way. Your turn. Well done to the writer by the way. Do send a copy to the Paki PM as well :)
September 10, 2012 1:19 pm
Iftekhar Mahmood
September 10, 2012 1:19 pm
Yeah right...
Iftekhar Mahmood
September 10, 2012 1:25 pm
Progressive India... quite an oxymoron...
September 10, 2012 1:25 pm
true that.
September 10, 2012 1:26 pm
"Our Minorities are living here peacefully than India...." really?? Just a few weeks back, I read the news of scores of pak hindus migrating to India...
September 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Youth will strive for a better government ! Thats my solution for near future !
September 10, 2012 1:27 pm
not to pakistani muslim mate they have taken there share and left, if they are broke,bad luck , doors are closed for them
September 10, 2012 1:28 pm
Heads up. There is a lot to India beyond Bollywood and pretty faces like Manhmohan singh( no disrespect intened) and Sonia gandhi.
September 11, 2012 12:54 pm
And you are such a patriot, that you ran away from this land of the pure, to a civilized place. Talk about hypocrisy!
September 10, 2012 1:29 pm
Lol.. vijay's comment does show the true picture of so called "welcoming sentiments" of Indians !!!
Hanif Hunzai
September 11, 2012 12:53 pm
very nice i like ur responce!
September 10, 2012 1:30 pm
I respect the furious emotion of the writer. And I am agreed with situation around the country. But to face the challenges that Pakistan is facing today, can’t we adopt a responsible way to address our grievances. I would prefer to die in my own country instead of begging safe hell in India.
September 10, 2012 1:31 pm
no muslims pls
September 11, 2012 9:19 am
we are just getting our people back who were left behind and lost during the
September 10, 2012 1:32 pm
"Two or three isolated cases cannot put a stain on Pakistan’s credibility." Are you for real ? two or three isolated cases ? . This is the kind of madness which is killing pakistan , the people like you are not even willing to recognize the problems, first step is to identify and recognize the problems this country is facing and only then you can work to resolve them. Living in denial has'nt helped in last 60 years and would'nt in next 100 .
September 10, 2012 1:33 pm
It is a thought provoking heart felt cry at the situation in Pakistan.I'm a ex Indian and a unbiased ruthless critic of India.India has almost unsermountable misery,poverty and corruption and to top it all very unresponsive,incompetent government with not only weak,but also cowardly leadership,secular ,not in true sense.So there is not much any Pakistani can,say,I said it all. ,having said that,why India is still a country where one can trive?IIt has almost 4 trillion economy,a healthy middle class exist and they keep the engine moving in spite of all the handicaps/Why?You can not ignore that.Indians know they can not change any of that,& common people who want to progress,are mostly left alone,if there was not occasional terror,Indians would still do better,if China and Pak,at least act as not very hostile neighbor,and if there was not this mistrust(there is some real reasons for it,it is not my imagination),India should accommoate,all Ahmedaias,Christians,Shias and Hazaras,that is my opinion,beside Hindus,& as a good will gesture,Pakistan just say Thanks,for now Pakistan is all Sunni,so can truly say it is at last"Land of the Pure" I'm not fictitious,I mean it.Thanks.
Wali K. Niazi
September 11, 2012 12:50 pm
Ms. Mirza : There is already a blogger on Dawn's staff goes by the name of NFP whose expertise lies in satirizing every thing that is slightly on the right of the centre, he is a PPP Jiyala & Zardari's diehard fan, he has a large following across the border, in India. Are you trying to compete with him ? No matter how you look at it, Dawn has done great disservice to our country by publishing your blog.
September 11, 2012 4:31 pm
Dear Ms Mirza, India is only just a shade better. Here we have OBCs, casteist and regional politics doing the same things. Only difference is the Institutions and Economy here are more strong and deep rooted. Fortunately we did not go on to become a "Hindu" nation. After all if the benchmark is purity of religion then only way forward is to improve this more and more, which Pakistan is exactly doing now. It chose to be an "Ideal" Islamic nation and continues to become more and more purely Islamic! Certainly Pakistani forefathers must be a pleased lot. Still I wish some day India and Pakistan will come together again as we share not just culture but blood too. Pakistan is not even remotely Arabic which it attempts to be. May be we can start as a loose federation or am I just dreaming! I say Amen to that...
September 10, 2012 1:24 pm
Lol highly qualified Pakistani Technocrats dont have these kind of problems defined by the author !
September 10, 2012 1:23 pm
Thanks Abbas!
September 11, 2012 3:57 pm
Wow, you really believe the rhetoric of Maoists. Must be one of those arm chair intellectuals enjoying all comforts of civilisation who want some ignorant people to wage war. I am no fan of our leaders (India), but to suggest some ignorant, innocent armed youth( leadership is old and dogmatic even with Maoists) can solve myriad problems by killing mostly people like themselves requires dishonesty you seem to be capable of. Don't simplify things that cannot be, to score points , that too in alien territory.
September 11, 2012 12:57 pm
Well we hope one day pakistan also prospers and we can live like CANADA/USA or New Zealand and Australia. We need people like you on both sides of the boder.
September 10, 2012 9:26 am
Prathmesh Vyas
September 10, 2012 1:21 pm
Dear Faiza, I am an Indian(hindu), and very well understands your pain, we also willing soft heart pakistan not talibani. May be Mr. sing can give you some reply, you have our support. With love and affection. Dr. Prathmesh Vyas
September 10, 2012 2:05 pm
pretty sad. But the fact is emigration of the elite is an acceptance of defeat. It depletes the pool of sensible people still remaining. You have got to fight the battle ....................................................
September 10, 2012 1:20 pm
Ms. Faiza the way you have written this letter shows the pain you are going through living in pakistan anyway you are welcome to India & i hope Mr. Singh listen to you people & grant the citezenship I am sure the rest of your life you will not go through that pain in India
September 11, 2012 4:29 pm
According to a neutral poll, Two third (66%) in Indian Kashmir want independence and 10% want a complete merger with Pakistan. I think it is way more than 10% but even at 10%, it makes it millions of Indians who want to call Pakistan their homeland. Indian Occupied Kashmir's population is 12 Million. Reference:
September 10, 2012 2:05 pm
I think Indian gov is giving priority to hindus and sikhs because they are specially targeted for belonging to religions majorly found in India. Hovevr both our countries need people like you. But whereever you go you will be an asset.
September 10, 2012 1:22 pm
@ Yakoob First your defination of "secular" is incorrect. Secular mean "Denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis". Second, your arguement that government which fails tp protect minorities isnt secular, by that defination indian governement is not secular yet. Third, why are you advising others to opt other religions ? you yourself are not that secular, right?
September 10, 2012 2:05 pm
I think rather than being ashamed of Faiza you should be ashamed of your society and the leadership, Faiza has certainly struck a chord here.but maybe it was the only way to gain some attention.....As mentioned above India has its fair share of problems but Shias, Ahmadis, Christians are not gunned down openly...If you were one of them you would surely no...But you are not are you ? Your people are not being killed so you are happy in Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 2:05 pm
What about the Indians seeking asylum in Western countries? Indians make up amongst the highest number of migrants to Europe and America, right up there with the other Asian super power called China. I know it's satire but India only looks better because Pakistan is in a mess. Many Indians actually see themselves through a make believe Bollywood lense. Under this glamor is a lot of pain, hunger and hardship and you do them a great disservice by feeding them this fantasy too.
September 11, 2012 2:22 pm
"Why is this move focused towards Hindus?" why don't you read international law a little before writing such article and raising such questions.According to international law India can not throw out any person who does not want to go back to original country because of any kind of prosecution and on the basis or current citizen ship law any one refugee or tourist can apply for Indian citizenship if he full fill all the condition required this is not a new policy it there since the time of Independence (under this act only after Sonia Gandhi was given Indian citizenship ) India does not have only Pakistani Hindus as refugee but thew are lakhs of Buddhist refugee from Tibet, Tamilien (Hindu ,non Hindu) from SriLanka, We has 10 million Pakistani Muslim refugee from east Pakistan (Most of them returned but many stayed back and later acquired Indian citizenship). A This is not a some kind of new policy adopted by Manmohan sigh government it is in place since independence , For any Muslim Refugee from Pakistan the policy will not change (in fact many Muslims from Pakistan have already got citizen ship of India before and after 1971 war) All the Muslim refugees are welcome from Pakistan , But is a lot of people from Pakistan start poring into India , according to International law India gets right to attack Pakistan to bring situation under control (remember 1971 war) Accusing Manmohan Singh of supporting Hindus and maligning Pakistan i the proces sis simply ridiculous.Had india any intention of doing sny such thing India would have given this citizen ship immediately on their arrival not waited 7 year and listed only 900 hurndred when there are 8000 hindus in the waiting line.
September 11, 2012 7:49 pm
totally agreed !!
September 11, 2012 9:57 am
totally agreed
September 10, 2012 2:05 pm
" a young, motivated Pakistani woman, your efforts would be better served by educating, helping feed, clothe, and enlightening your fellow country-men to the need of the hour, i.e. hard work, commitment, patience, and an unwavering loyalty to the Pakistan we want to build for our future generations" Spot on Waqas! Thanks for posting - exactly the mindset we need.
September 11, 2012 1:48 pm
Syed W. Ali
September 10, 2012 2:03 pm
Pedantic gesture, and that from a reporter from Dawn? Ever heard of the phrase "grass is green on the other side". You will simply swap your troubles with a different kind. The bigger question is, when the sun rises each day, am I ready to do my part? Am I ready to engage in good and forbid the evil? Ihtisab at the end of the day brings peace to the heart. This lesson from the bare minimum service to the Creator yields enough courage for me to go on. I suggest you give this a try ...
September 11, 2012 12:28 pm
zhakas, kya likha hain guru..
September 10, 2012 2:02 pm
It seems Miss Faiza that the only thing you're good at is sitting behind a laptop and writing worthless blogs. Ever thought about staying in Pakistan and actually standing up for what you believe in. People like you run away when faced with tough situations, at least have the courage to admit that you're a coward. By all means go to India, Pakistan is much better off without people like you.
September 11, 2012 4:25 pm
Dear Friends, Guru, MKB, et al. I am not here to defend Pakistan or trash India. I am trying simply to explain why the two countries apparently so similar to each other are on war footing, and why the US-Canada analogy makes a lots of sense. Here in Canada most of us would loath to live in the US, and the Americans would find us backward, similarly, Indians would loath to live in Pakistan, and few Pakistani Muslims would want to move to India (Manto and Quratulain Haider excepting). All I said was that the society depicted by Jugnu, Awaara, Shree 420, Mother India, Madhumati would be unacceptable to Pakistanis. We sing to a different tune, no worse or better, but different. And our Indian friends must accept that as a starting point. That would be a good basis for a peaceful neighbourhood and a lasting friendship. I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to India in 1991, and was moved by the hospitality of people there, but I would not want to live there. Best wishes
September 10, 2012 2:02 pm
False...yes India has many many issues as well, not great with dealing with minorities, but please...Shias, Christians and Hindus are not gunned down in broad Daylight. If you were Ahmadi, Shia or would know !
September 11, 2012 12:29 pm
"Ghabra kay yeh kahte hain ke mar jayenge (India Jayenge), Mar ke bhi chayan na paya to kidhar jayenge?" The grass may look just a shade greener on the other side but it is basically also mainly brownish and yellow (zard). Manmohan is no angel and is just a servant of WBank and a few multinationals at home. If you want to see and listen to real India, I will take you to jungles where Naxals are fighting a war against Indian govt. serving the intersts of multi-nationals at home and from rich west. We must look at the root of the problems and not just the symptons.
Hussain Naqvi
September 11, 2012 12:30 pm
The mirror shon to the rulers and their other co-instituations including judiciery headed by a father of a talented son and all the agencies patronizing the enemies of Pakistan invited see their faces is a provoking issue taken by the writer. Sh desrved our apperciation for her courgeous painting to show the reality on ground of Pak land. Coulg we expect all the State actors to play the role to restore the peace and harmony in the country, so that all could live peacefully.
September 10, 2012 1:27 pm
I agree with you Abbas. We built up extremism over the past several decades and now have to work to eliminate it. One key point here though is that as citizens of what we like to call a democracy, we need to take joint accountability for these problems. Sure, let's point towards the problem, and that's a decent (albeit fairly easy and often lazy) first step. Next though, people like you and I need to make the change we want to see. Maybe this is too simplistic a perspective - time will tell.
September 10, 2012 2:01 pm
hum os desh ke bassi hain jis desh main GANGA behti hai Mehaman jo hamara hota hai jan se piara hots hai
September 11, 2012 4:22 pm
"Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality." how dare you say that?....its only very few opportunists like you faiza who would like to cross the border like that. rest of us will strive hard to bring our beloved homeland out of this mess.
September 11, 2012 4:22 pm
Gujrat is in Pakistan and what did you guys do to muslims in Gujrat?
September 10, 2012 8:09 pm
Umer, can you elaborate?
September 10, 2012 2:00 pm
Well life is relative right?
September 12, 2012 10:20 am
While no one will miss Faiza if she moves to another country. Our government, religious, and political leadership need to act in unison to eradicate all sorts of discrimination from the country regardless of the basis of such discrimination.
September 10, 2012 2:00 pm
Regressive Pakistan then?
Shakoor Ahmed
September 10, 2012 2:00 pm
This is a very sad article, however it is so true. The message is timely and while the cloak is Mr. Singh the dagger is our own Home. Well presented.
September 11, 2012 4:17 pm
This article like many others before this share the same plea, Pakistan's secular community (this includes Muslims and non-Muslims) is under attack and a few right-wingers have taken the whole country hostage. The government won't do much as they have other priorities to look into, also, we all know that reactive approach to any problem is far difficult to manage than proactive approach which was never tried to begin with.
Afzal K. (usa)
September 11, 2012 12:32 pm
Ms. Mirza, there is a term called 5th columnist, it means saboteur of national security & national interest, you earned the title.
Shahid Latif
September 11, 2012 12:32 pm
A good marsia about the state of affairs in Pakistan. It, however, does not truly reflect the stock of majority of countrymen who are nonviolent and wish to live peacefully. Sensationalism at the expense of inviting ridicule at home and abroad appears to be a good drill by self haters. There seems to be a race to show that I can paint a bleaker picture than you.
September 11, 2012 4:16 pm
Your name has not been fully spelt. Why you stopped at 'a' You should have typed out your name fully as 'a fraud'
September 11, 2012 4:16 pm
@ZAMEER SULTAN, it's about TIME that you need a brain replacement. check your beef that you are eating whether the cow had the madcow disease . i am sure all logical functions of your brain are gone,perfect boon for jihad as a are ready to blow yourself up for ALLAH
September 11, 2012 8:04 pm
Probably because, there are no more Shia muslims to kill in Pak
Dr satpal Jabbal
September 10, 2012 12:55 pm
Come in, India Welcomes everyone.
September 12, 2012 10:24 am
Hi Ms. Faiza, Your letter is very good but I think you have written this letter to the wrong person. It should really have been written to the following people: - Baal Thackeray - Narindra Modi - The relatives of victims of Gujrat riots - The wife of the christian missionary whose husband and two young sons were burned alive in their car - The imam of the Babery Mosque - The relatives of the victims of the Golden Temple incident - Raaj Thackeray - Arun Shuri - The relatives of the victims on the Samjhota Express - Col. Prohit - The relatives of victims of Assam Riots - BJP - Shiv Sena - Qutbuddin Ansari (Survived the Gujrat Massacre) - The moazzin of the Babery Mosque - L. K. Advani
Hindu Brother
September 11, 2012 4:09 pm
Read about Gujarat, and how Gujarat muslims support its CM for giving it peace and prosperity. You may find it ironical, but it is true. Speak the Truth and face it also.
September 11, 2012 3:34 pm
Anyone who criticises this fantastic article by Faiza should ask themselve if any part of this article is untrue. Just a single part of it. How many times has the Indian army taken over?? Zero. Do they have four American military bases and drone attacks for the last 7 years?? Exactly. Well done Faiza.
September 12, 2012 8:42 am
Hi Irfan, I am from one of those millions of poor/lower middle class people you speak of and I would like to inform you that I, like most of the other millions of poor/lower middle class people, face tremendous difficulties here in Pakistan. From no water and electricity to no money for medicine for our loved ones, like in my case my father. But this is also the same Pakistan where I have gotten a scholar ship to one of the best universities in the country through my hard work and grace of Allah. I now look towards a better future for me and my family in PAKISTAN. The problem with Pakistan is not intolerance for minorities, or the lack of progress or anything else. The problem is people like you and Ms. Faiza here. People like you complain but dont lift a finger to fix what you complain about. Intolerance for minorities in the society is in less than 1% of the people. Its mostly prevalent in people like you who in one swift stroke, has labeled all those who are elite or in the army as corrupt. Its people like you who, when they see a problem in Pakistan, start looking for the nearest exit being the cowards that you are, leaving millions of poor/lower middle class people like us to clean up the mess which you leave behind. I really hope that people like you and Ms.Faiza leave Pakistan, so that the real people of Pakistan can get down to fixing Pakistan without getting discouraged.
September 11, 2012 4:12 pm
Ms. Faiza I am sorry for you because the most of the commentators have not understood your sarcasm. They are so blinded by their petty hatred that they cannot see your point. Good luck next time.
September 10, 2012 9:26 am
Human sufferings are not bound by cast creed or color. A person running for life, dignity and freedom must be embraced by a society which highly religious yet secular in majority, highly conservative to its values yet open enough to embrace those who are suffering. If Afgans can live peacefully in Bhogal, Rohingyas, Bangladeshis (Tasleema Nasreen), why not pakistanis who are genuinely being persecuted whether they are hazaras, ahamedis, or for that matter shias. In India all of them are Muslims and none of them has right to desecrate each others mosques or tombs.
September 10, 2012 9:26 am
Girl you are living in danger. Not many Pakistani people will like this . its very much like person attending rally against US leaves little early as he has to attend visa interview in US consulate.
September 11, 2012 4:11 pm
Do us a favor Ms. Mirza. Keep your looser and pessimistic mentality to your self and dont write such negative articles. and by the wayyou dont speak for all pakistanis, you wont be able to find more than a few pakistanies who despite all of the difficulties and hardships here at home will be willing to call india there "new home". shame on you!!
September 11, 2012 4:11 pm
The Indians are not considering other religions for citizenship except the Hindus simply because of the fact that the other religions have not asked for it the writer should be one of the first ones from a non Hindu group to apply for Indian citizenship as she seems to be impressed by India and not go anywhere else except to India where communal riots are quite common.She should also try to meet Bal Thackray who may even help her settle down well in India.
September 10, 2012 1:58 pm
you just made up that statistic dint you... Oh wait. You consider those that came to Karachi during partition as Indians and not Pakistanis. That says more about the pathetic state of Karachi and integration in Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 1:51 pm
And just look at the minorities under Paki Muslim rule. no need to go further.
Ranjit Jatar
September 10, 2012 1:52 pm
I was in Srinagar and Gulmarg in Aug talking to ordinary Kashmiris. They all said that Pakistan is no longer their preferred choice. One poor Gujar ( shephard) said that Pakistan having sided with America is now facing turmoil and attacks from within and he would rather not have his "mulk" as part of such a dangerous mulk. I really feel sad for the poor whether in Pakistan or in India. Surely they all deserve a better fate. I hope Pakistan is able to solve its internal problems. One advise -- I dont think any of us should use terrorists/freedom fighters as strategic tools. Indira Gandhi lost her life when she played up Bhinderanwale to start with, Rajiv Gandhi when he initially helped the LTTE and we are now seeing whats happening in Pakistan when people trained for foreign missions in the name of religion are shifting gears internally.
A Freind from India
September 10, 2012 8:26 am
Faiza, I never write comments on news articles but this one moved me. I am not sure how this got published in Dawn - hats off to this newspaper!! I am not sure how you can go about after writing such a terse and hard hitting article. We all are the same and have our own set of problems but here, in India, despite several rogue elements, a more sane and tolerant approach prevails. I always feel that the majority in Pak is same as here, wants peace and prosperity. I think they want to be left alone. A citizen expects only basic things from her govt - good education, safety and a progressive society. Is it too much to ask? I wish you good luck and wish good to all people like you on the other side of border. Be safe.
Nitin R
September 11, 2012 4:02 pm
How do you call yourself a person who 'strives' for a progressive Pakistan when you choose to flee from it. Dear Rajeev Nidumolu - India does not have dual citizenship regime. Please get your facts straight. . Honestly, Pakistan can keep its intelligentsia. We have nothing to prove to Pakistan regarding our secular credentials. They are brainwashed to believe that Muslims are targeted and discriminated against the way they target their own. This might be true, but it is not the metanarrative. Indian does not owe Pakistan anything. It is about time Pakistan stopped looking at its neighbours and tried to control its own destiny and fulfil its lost, yet infinite potential.
September 10, 2012 8:30 am
Emotional Kar diya....
Saurabh Jadli (@sohrabjadli)
September 10, 2012 8:29 am
The problem is at the time only Hindus are asking for help from India and Muslims of Pakistan will never consider India as their home otherwise whole Pakistan will be re-included in India. But yes, I agree on your point anyone who is suffering and asks for help/refuge should be treated equally irrespective of religion.
September 10, 2012 8:35 am
I hope Indian government accepts your plea and lets you in.
vijay, chennai, India
September 10, 2012 8:36 am
become a Hindu and you are most welcome to be in India. we have enough muslims here.
September 10, 2012 8:38 am
I hope I am right in comprehending your subject & tone used in the Open letter. Now having said that few question arrive in mind after reading this. 1) why did you pick this topic, I mean aren’t there more important subject to write and let me say adequate people to address to i.e. our problems. 2) The tone used is sarcastic I know but yet at the same time sounds more desperate, weak and, may be NOT EVEN the last person/ government we would like to surrender 3) Paragraph opening with "Mr. Singh many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this" If I had written this article I would not have said this statement as a Pakistani. There is something called integrity. 4) Those Pakistani's who are not proud of being Pakistanis should look into themselves, how good human being have they been in this country, have they followed law & respected law all their lives, how productive have they been for Pakistan.... these complainants are those who have just been an excess baggage for this country and have played puppets in the hands of our enemy's. Let me remind and document this FACT. People of Pakistan (Large Majority) are genuinely talented, hardworking and good Muslims. We are going through a tough time as a nation and let me REMIND you we would like our heads cut but bow down to our enemy's. With all due respect. Yours & Pakistan’s Sincerely.
Gaurav Arya
September 10, 2012 8:40 am
Faiza, Dr. Singh and his government are duty-bound not to discriminate on basis on religion. I think no other community has asked for help before, and so the Indian Government is unable to extend help. If the Ahmadis or Christians want to come, they are most welcome. We are not a rich country (well, the government is obscenely rich and the people are poor) but we will welcome anyone who wants to come to India. Yes, we are mired in corruption, poverty and unequal growth, but from the very bottom of our hearts "Atithi Devo Bhava". You can worship any god, wear what you want and eat what suits you and no one will say a thing.
Sapan Kapoor
September 10, 2012 8:39 am
Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, anyone I mean anyone who feels persecuted in any part of the world, including Pakistan, and seeks asylum in India will not be turned away. The Indian government shall not discriminate against the Pakistani Muslims if they chose to migrate to India. You're most welcome, Faiza. Consider India you own country.
Sapan Kapoor
September 10, 2012 8:40 am
Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, anyone I mean anyone who feels persecuted in any part of the world, including Pakistan, and seeks asylum in India will not be turned away. The Indian government shall not discriminate against the Pakistani Muslims if they chose to migrate to India. You’re most welcome, Faiza. Consider India you own country.
September 10, 2012 8:41 am
Wow! what an incredibly deluded article. Do you have any idea about the difficulties of Indian Muslims in India since the time of partition? Maybe read Curfewed Night by Basharat Peer. It speaks of the Kashmiri conflict narrating the lived experiences of one Kashmiri in Kashmir and then in India. Its no picnic on the other side either, miss.
September 10, 2012 8:41 am
There should be a follow up on this Faiza....
September 11, 2012 4:01 pm
Let us open our boundaries and share the lands freely between us - let us be responsible for its security and care. Let there be no discrimination towards anyone's religion. Let the law of the lands be fair and unbiased. We share common history, cultures, languages, tradition, names and surnames - why then do we hate each other? It has become a habit thats why !!! If we see ourselves as ONE, then the two countries can be there defined on geographical map as India and Pakistan - who cares!!! Let us share our hearts... not just land! (response from Indian brother)
September 11, 2012 6:22 pm
Ha ha, model chief minister? Model of what? Ethnic cleansing? Remember Hitler was also democratically elected . I repeat again, India is appearing goody goody only by default and nothing else.
Dhanus Menon
September 10, 2012 8:42 am
YOu may pls. stay in pakistan along with your muslim brethren. We have enough troube of our own due to a lot of misguided muslims. Let us live our way and you yours.
Umair Aziz
September 10, 2012 8:43 am
While sitting in a lavish room how can you analyse the current situation of Pakistan which we are facing due to our neighbors. The writer is totally educated ignorant having no knowledge about the so called "war on terror". While you are talking about minorities, What about Muslims & Christians living in India? Why the writer like you always forget the Gujrat incidents in which Indian Majority did the carnage of Muslims and Orraisa incident "The Massacre of Christians". Our Minorities are living here peacefully than India. Obviously we have problems due to our inclusion in war on terror. You are not so naive which you want to show in your column. Your main and real Problem is just "Qadiyani Cult" and nothing else.Writer like you also bringing troubles for Qadiyani minority also. You are stabbing back to your community and Pakistan also. You are also well aware about it that your column haven't any value and can't bring change in our thoughts about "Qadiyani Cult". We accept them as a minority respectfully not a Muslim community By the way.........
September 10, 2012 8:45 am
Faiza, it will be an honour to grant you Indian citizenship! On a more serious note, the grass looks greener on the other side. There is a lot of poverty, indiscipline,corruption, illiteracy, unequitable distribution of wealth, exploitation of the weaker sections, unconrolled population expansion in India too. Religious and caste oriented biases exist but they are on the wane. Affirmative actions by the government are slowly beginning to pay dividends for the under-privileged. Religion is mostly personal and no government or public organization dare differentiate based on religion. There is a thriving middle class where both genders enjoy equal opportunities in education and employment. Conformance to religious dictats are almost absent an is a matter of individual choice. The spend on armed forces is just as high but the military operates within democratic perimeters. All these make no great difference, except the threat from militants - that is what makes Pakistan a dangerous place to live in. I am of the strong opinion that all the marginalised minorities in Pakistan who find the going very stifling, including Christians and Ahmadis, should be allowed to migrate to India. The first set of refugees from Pakistan during partition have contributed immensely to India and I am sure a second wave will be just rewarding to India. Besides, what is a million more to 1.2 billion.
September 11, 2012 9:37 am
very candid and superb article reflecting the height of frustration we Pakistanis are experiencing .
Maham Khalid
September 10, 2012 8:47 am
migration is NOT the solution.
Shahzeb Khan
September 10, 2012 8:49 am
The fact that you can write such stuff without being branded should be reason enough not to leave this country!
September 10, 2012 8:51 am
That's a touching article, Faiza. India has been a home to anyone, irrespective of his/her religion but it's up to the individual to believe that. You're welcome to India but I wish Pakistan improves.
Murtuza Babrawala
September 11, 2012 4:00 pm
It is not only Pakistani Hindus who would avail the opportunity to get Indian citizenship but also majority of Pakistanis whether they are Sunni or Shia Muslims, Ahmedis, Sikh or Chirstians. Majority of Pakistanis are tired of few vocal and violent extremist who are committing heinous acts all in the name of Islam but in essence these extremist are enemies of Islam. Our government and all powerful military have failed to eliminate these extremist so we ask the government of India to help Pakistanis to eliminate these extremist.
September 10, 2012 8:52 am
India has more Muslim population than Pakistan.
September 11, 2012 4:00 pm
No I think its all about getting fame and I tell you that she got quite successful to get her goal done. Now we should wait when India will start pouring the blessings on her.
September 10, 2012 8:54 am
I would love to share your sentiments Faiza but only once Modi is behind bars. Never before that.
Jay Raj
September 10, 2012 8:54 am
I have heard it many times in the past from many of my close friends and colleagues from Pakistan who expressed their desire exactly as Faiza has written in this article. I strongly believe that India should have a policy like the U.S, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand to welcome highly qualified Pakistani technocrats to immigrate with their families and settle down in India. They will be an asset to India and those Pakistanis will be more happier to live in India than settling in a western country with an alien culture.
Zameer Sultan
September 10, 2012 8:54 am
Though this bifacial draft designed in a way that author will attempt to prove it a satire on India if criticized inside Pakistan. But being the student of international affairs I think its pity how Pakistani writers specially journalists are using ink of their mother’s blood in their pen to write the greetings to their enemies. India lost the administrative control of their 17 states (provinces) in their east in their West the Punjab and Kashmir running an independence movement the south of India is in a mess of deprived marahaties where is the piece in India their court have confirmed the mass atrocities towards minorities majorly of Muslims. Why don’t you people realize that Pakistan is a country with an ideology and for this ideology Pakistan is facing resistance from round the glob every single country is busy in offensive inelegance against this country and countries like India acting like hub of all such activities whole world is supporting India financially and politically and that is the only reason of India is surviving. On the other hand Pakistan is surviving though lost world business and support but surviving with hundreds of crisis. The only reason of its survival is that it is world’s greatest nation. Get sometime out of ‘dealing” with the enemies and make a graph of the threats and opportunities Pakistan and India facing and then make a index of growth you will experience a miracle
Md. Yakoob
September 10, 2012 8:55 am
Dear @Adeel: No not for muslims, they have 50+ other muslim countries to apply for. Isnt it shameful for the people of pakistan to improve their structure than comment on India's secularism. By the way pakistan is least qualified to comment about India's secularism for you yourself are not one. Secular means respecting all religions, that does not mean taking in muslims or christians from pakistan. Your govt should learn to give them protection not us. There are many Xian countries and muslim countries..pls try your luck there. Become a Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh/Jain...else try your luck else where... sorry :(
Arpit Jain
September 10, 2012 8:58 am
Its a very emotional writeup. I completely agree with authors analysis that govt., judiciary and military all have failed to provide people with basic human needs and most imp. of all need "security of life".. I, as an Indian, respect your thought and truly believe that Pakistan as a society need to grow as a nation. You are always welcome in India and I would say it is Indian government responsibility to provide shelter to anyone who is in distress be it is bangladeshi, rohingya muslims, pakistani hindus, chrisitians or muslims!(which we did in past and present)
September 10, 2012 8:58 am
frankly, I dont see your article going down too well with a large majority of your countrymen, Faiza! best of luck to you, with the negative responses that will pour in like an avalanch!
September 11, 2012 3:34 pm
Google will give you a fact check, type the keywords "Christans" "Voilance" "India" and you will get your answer. Millions in Kashmir want to join Pakistan, why they are not given their right of self determination? why there are Pakistani flags all over in their rallies against brutality of Indian army? Does that not tell you something? This stuff happens in all 3rd world countries and India and Pakistan are not an exception, that's what my point is.
Mohan Kochicheril
September 11, 2012 9:26 pm
We all want Pakistan to succeed and become a great nation, but right now it is a failed nation. India and Pakistan have something in common ie, corrupt politicians in ruling and opposition benches wants to loot the country. But Pakistan has all many fanatic mullah wants to destroy the country. When it becomes a great nation, everyone wants to migrate to Pakistan. Probably, you all need an "Arab spring". Good Luck.
September 10, 2012 9:01 am
Bravo to the writer for she has penned what many of us are silently thinking. There will come day when the minorities of Pakistan will proudly say "I am proud to be a Pakistani". Bur unfortunately, I may not be alive to see that day. Amen.
Shankar Bandyopadhay
September 10, 2012 9:01 am
In 1947 we parted way and it is best for both of us that we maintain safe distance from each other. Pakistan and India has both evolved very differently since. Its a common knowledge that minorities cannot exists within any islamic society..and Hindus are especially targetted in Pakistani due a long history of hatred. At least chrisitians and muslims can find refuge in many other countries which follows these religions. But for Hindus India remains the one and only shelter in the entire world. Thats why on both these counts giving refuge to the Hindus should be the priority. May be if Indians are intelligent they should exchange the hindus of pakistans with muslims of India. It will be a win win situation for all :-)
September 11, 2012 3:59 pm
Couple of years back there was a research by PEW poll.......... the findings were......... 65% of Pakistanis want to leave it permanently while 30% of the remaining wanted to venture out of Pakistan at least once to escape the turbulent conditions at home. Google PEW poll and kindly find the research article. raghu.mumbai
September 10, 2012 9:02 am
Heavy. You will have the resources to find yourself an appropriate host country, but if not you are more than welcome in India. I think people persecuted at the hands of religion have a bigger duty to always champion secularism, even when you leave the place itself. Let me share a secret with you - India is not settled yet on this problem of religious extremism. If the balance tilts the other way, we will go down the tubes in no time. So a blanket acceptance of more immigrants is out of the question. We are always in need to enlightened people like yourself of course, but I worry what would happen if the gates are opened for everybody.
September 10, 2012 1:53 pm
I can see that Faiza has got the goat of the Ghairat brigade who are astounded by her write up. If she had penned the same and written to Hamid Karzai asking for asylum in Afghanistan the reactions may not have been as hostile. However bitter the truth it is a fact that that today there are around 5 million Bangladeshi immigrants in India who have fled economic deprivation and have no desire of returning. This fact is also very insulting to the two nation theory. The Indian market is huge and every country is wooing so that they can get a foothold there. India is admired because it has probably the best Constitution, control of all its territory however fragile that may be and the ability to exercise Law and Order across its territory. Faiza, you are most welcome to visit our India and see for yourself how Jinnah merely promised but Nehru delivered. The real difference between the two countries is very simple - in Pakistan the State is the aggressor and the citizen the victim, in India the citizens are the aggressors and the State the victim. This also explains why in India Democracy can never be derailed and in Pakistan it can never flourish. Take it easy guys, swallow your egos and learn to Love, hate will only consume and destroy. All were Hindus from the time of Indus Valley Civilization, if we learn to love our roots, our culture and our heritage we will not only find Peace but learn to live in harmony with all HIS other creations.
Md. Yakoob
September 10, 2012 9:03 am
Dear Saurabh: This will open the flood gates from pakistan, well if it has to be done...then pakistan should also give away a certain portion of its land and resources to India as well as India will house. India is what it is today is because of the significant majority of the population being accomodative...that demographics will be damaged and the country will be in turmoil it and once they gain a weightage in the population they will start playing their games once again. Although i am sympathetic to several people struggling in pakistan from the muslim n christian community, I would request them to try their luck in the other 200+ nations which are either Xian or islamic and spare this one dharmic nation. Let India not get fooled by the word 'secularism' and pakistan cannot comment on India's secularism either as they are not a qualified secular country themselves.
September 10, 2012 9:04 am
Really feeling emotional.I hope Indian Govt will help out as we are allowing many from Bangaladesh why not from Pak.It may be the time to happen Berlin wall between India and Pak. I hope Pak will do everything to safe guard Nuke items.
September 10, 2012 9:05 am
Whats the point that the author is trying to make??? She should also write the same letter to Pakistani PM to consider Indian Muslims for the Pakistani citizenship. Instead of criticizing the nation and government, she should unveil the true story. The foreign hand is involved in destabilizing the country and only 2 % to 5% incidents might involve the general public which is nominal and happens everywhere. However talking about the Indian Muslims who are always brutally killed and murdered by the Hindus and Indian government which is a proven fact and Indian judiciary gave their decisions in various cases. Unlike the other, I m not criticizing any country. The point is that media should play its positive role in representing the true picture of the society. Besides that it should play its role in creating an educated society. It should create awareness about the value of human life and its rights and obligations. Islam laid great importance on the respect of other religions and general humanity irrespective of religion. So instead of creating more drama, author should try to change the thinking of extremists and try to write articles which enhance the thinking capability of masses.
September 11, 2012 10:09 pm
Despite having all those degrees you have failed to understand the message of the author.
ozair mustafa
September 10, 2012 9:06 am
The of all the problems is weak or no leadership.All the institutions are pulling in different directions. We need some one to look up to , some one giving us hope. My sincere wish is a change in top leadership in the comming elections.The leader matters a lot , not the one who is fighting for his survival , but one who is inspiring others. The things could turn around very fast if this change happens.
September 10, 2012 9:06 am
September 10, 2012 9:06 am
Thanks Nori, rest assured, let me say .... there are very few quitters in this country. We hope india also prospers but as Pakistani's we all should strive to make this a great country which was taken after alot of sacrifice.
September 10, 2012 9:06 am
..Ms.FIZA you are most welcome..but, i afraid there are some signs of radicalisation showing up in INDIA also...In Delhi Ahmadis exhibitions stalled, in Hyderabd wakf board encroaching Ahmadis Burrial land, TV angelist Mr.Zakir naik propogating particular sect, Mumbai Azad maidan incident, so many terrorism incidents all pointing towards particular community..i afraid sooner or later you will get confused & frustrated..
September 10, 2012 9:10 am
faiza have you ever casted your vote on election day? Yes this is true that we have difficult situation in our country but the solution you have presented is only cowardness.Yes i feel for you but writing this type of artical is only a shame for you and all pakistanis. Have you ever tried to find out what is happening in India with muslims? Please i would suggest you to migerate to india and see the reality what is happening there specially with muslims then i would like to read your post again.And thumbs down to dawn news . Really made me sad about what you can print just for fame on international level ignoring the national interest. Best of luck faiza we don't need your type of people in our country also and shame for dawn news.
September 10, 2012 10:58 am
This seems such a catch 22 sitution. If India helps on any ground it wont be welcomed in Pakistan and India gets blame for interferance. It is funny the whole two nation theory behind need for creation of pakistan is based on the fact that Muslim interest wont be taken care of in Hindu majority India. Now someone from Pakistan is suggesting it is unjust for India to not take care of some sections of Muslims in Pakistan. Ideally India should but my friend it will only make the situation more messy. I say "Ideally" because Indian constitution by nature is secular and it does not in differenciate between Hindus and Muslims and if fellow muslims in neighborhood are in distress India should help them on purely humanitarian grounds. This being another fact that a section of Muslim population parted away 65yrs back and has been at war with us since then.
September 10, 2012 9:14 am
Yes you are welcome, anytime.
September 10, 2012 9:16 am
Move to India miss.You would be most welcome, I am sure.
Ahmed Sultan (India)
September 10, 2012 9:19 am
India has always given asylum to zoroastrians (India has more zoroastrians than Iran), tibetan buddhists, bangladeshi migrants during 1971 and Srilankan tamils. As an Indian I would request Dr Singh and its government to do the same again without seeing caste, race or religion.
September 10, 2012 9:19 am
I don't understand the logic of this letter/article. It depend upon the people of a country how they want to mould destiny of their society/ nation. Its not solution to either migrate / or start believing in the philosophy of escapism. Best solution is get the system right, active participattion of publics in getting things right. Remember, India also has passed through a miserable times, but by grit and determination people, system in getting on right track..and hope with more awareness, things will progress in a better direction ...
n s parameswaran
September 10, 2012 9:20 am
India has always welcomed the persecuted. In fact India was the land where people persecuted used to come. Look at the Parsis (from Iran), Jews, Tibetians, etc etc. They have all come and thrived, prospered and have contributed to what India is today. Muslims of a certain mindset decided that they are different from Hindus and asked for Pakistan - the divorce was from their side. As such you are always welcome to your mother land (a mother's house is always open for the estranged child).
September 10, 2012 9:20 am
Very correct....
September 10, 2012 9:21 am
Really touching article. Faiza we will be proud to welcome u in India. But Why India/Pakistan. We are originated from one nation and should be mergerd again in one nation. May god bless us.
September 10, 2012 9:22 am
Seriously? Running away is the solution?
September 10, 2012 9:44 am
great stuff decided to satirize Indians & Pakistanis "_
September 10, 2012 9:47 am
Don't take this piece literally. I don't think the writer is suggesting that. On the contrary she seems to suggest to govt. of India that migration and asylum is not the solution. Not that India is proposing that as solution. In veiled words she seems to suggest that running away is not the solution.
September 11, 2012 3:53 pm
Mirza sahib, have you ever met the East Germans after 1989? I live in Germany that's why I say. They are same people with same religion, race and culture but all these years of partition has developed two different mind set of Germans. Now united as one country they say that wall is fallen but there is still a huge wall between two nations. Yes they use word nations for each other. Moreover, please check the German articles which may also tell you the harsh truth that East Germans with same qualification have been hired with less pay than a West Germans. Discrimination is quite obvious and you will hear many times when West Germans call them Ossie. And you talk about PK-India as a single country. These two nations are not civilized like Germany and I tell you they will end up killing each other by creating a new era of civil war. I rather wish and pray that they will sincerely respect each other as a good neighbor and stop creating propaganda and unrest against each other.
September 10, 2012 9:50 am
Faiza, I find it ironic that your piece lacks even a shred of the "progressiveness" that you refer to towards the end. Rather than suggesting what can be done to improve the situation, you chose to write a childish criticism of the Pakistani government (how original), and included a juxtaposition with India for good measure (good for India - happy for them - but as Pakistanis, perhaps we need to trigger change by look inward rather than pointlessly comparing?). Not for one moment am I defending the atrocities against minorities in Pakistan, but I'm deeply disappointed by your cynical and damaging response to the situation. As a next step, you owe it to your people and country to write back with specific, constructive recommendations on what can be done to improve the situation.
Sapan Kapoor
September 10, 2012 9:52 am
Faiza brought tears in my eyes. She's leaving Pakistan. You're most welcome to India, Faiza. India' is your own country. Please come to India. Don't go anywhere else. Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, anyone I mean anyone who feels persecuted in any part of the world, including Pakistan, and seeks asylum in India must not and will not be turned away. I urge the Indian government to treat all Pakistanis on equal footing as Hindus. India's a secular country not a banana Hindu republic :-(
September 10, 2012 9:52 am
Spot on Faiza. Very unfortunate but very true.
September 10, 2012 9:53 am
Shame on you for writing this article. I would starve to death in Pakistan than to live under a Hindu rule. Dawn has lost it's mind and now has become a month pieces for the enemies of Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 9:54 am
if u have a better option so tell thn!
September 10, 2012 9:55 am
A more appropriate comment would be "SHAME on all of us" including you and me for always running away from the reality.
An Indian
September 10, 2012 9:57 am
You are welcome to India, Faiza. Hope things work out the way you want it to.
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 11, 2012 3:51 pm
The question was not for you but for the writer. I you are a Dr which I doubt very much you would have understood
September 10, 2012 9:58 am
Theoretically your article make sense but the fact is for all the deprived people their is some one to lend a voice to their cause but for Hindus I didn't saw any one giving them at least moral support. and no matter what happen leaving one home land is a extreme decision which one takes at the time of despondency which shoes they don't feel a part of the society, so this is a failure on the part of intellectual people like you who have the platform and means to least bring their plight to fore.
Muhammad Fraz Ajmal
September 10, 2012 9:58 am
We are the society from which our govt has risen.. We are the state, so we are the problem. If you are intelligent enough to understand what's going on and if your intellectual capacity is even slightly above most others around you, it means you have a direct responsibility of staying and doing something. Bottomline? Pakistan needs you, don't run away.
September 11, 2012 3:50 pm
Deliberatley provocative, and a point well made. India went on to be what Pakistan should have been; while we turned into what we thought India would be.
September 10, 2012 9:58 am
Sad story but essentially rhetorical - for those who are pillorying the poor girl.She is only trying to highlight the direction in which Pakistan is going - am sure she does not mean to be taken literally about her desire to shift eastwards.That of course is the problem which starts the whole thing!
Mudassir Hasan
September 10, 2012 9:59 am
The reality is that every member of a minority in Pakistan is as much a Pakistani as any Muslim. As a Muslim AlhamduLillah the actions of the majority of our so called leaders disgusts me. It is our mandated duty to provide protection to those who do not share our religion. If Allah SWT has given the freedom to practice their faith on Earth who are we to stop them? As for Indian nationality, no thank you, insha Allah my nation will rise, the tougher our test is, the greater insha Allah will be our success.
Sabir Ayub Rabbani
September 10, 2012 9:59 am
Very well said Mr. Dawood. And I am amazed that newspaper like Dawn is promoting a thing like this.
September 11, 2012 5:18 pm
Mr. Siddique Humayun, i don't understand why are you getting so offended by the truth !! If you live in Pakistan , look around, talk to people about this fact . Randomly go talk to 100 people about the same issue. I bet you 70% will say, it is way better at this time and age to be called an indian than a pakistani! Yes it is heart breaking and even writing it down i have a lump in my throat because i am a Pakistani myself BUT the truth is i am not too proud of my nation ! i would rather be an Indian national when travelling outside of the country than a Pakistani. This is the truth and accept it. Name one thing that you can be proud of being a Pakistani? Sorry but I can give you a 100 about India.
September 10, 2012 10:01 am
correct your outdated pakistan has more muslims than India only second to Indonesia..
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 10, 2012 10:03 am
Our forefathers fought and died for some one like you to write this letter. Pakistan may not be the perfact copuntry to line in but is India. Ask the Kashmiries, Asamies Beharies and Gugrati Muslims who lost their loved ones in the 2002 riots. Door kay dole sohanay May dear.
September 10, 2012 10:05 am
yes, Jinnah needs you... you and countless of those other pakistanis , who for their own reasons left the country for "safer" pastures and have left the rest. Brain drain is our worst problem, way above lack of education, health care and others. We have you all who have learnt here, lived here, experienced here and yet find the need to use these expertise else where. so you run away, instead of brining in solutions, working on them and trying to bring in results, you, then , sit in your relative comfort and comment on the apathy that is Pakistan. Ironic, isn"t it. Whether you choose india or iceland to run away to, it does not matter to your country, but funnily enough , India is used to attract attention. why? so that a hate debate is sparked? Please I humbly ask you and your like minded friends to go there, settle, work, hmmm try and be better and then ... be safe. Jinnah , at least will no longer need you!
Azhar CHAUDHRY (Hong Kong)
September 10, 2012 10:05 am
Double minded people who have such mentality towards Pakistan should not be regarded as Pakistani. The writer does not have sole and heart intent towards the country they live in and is pathetic and absurd. This is a biased article to reflect one's own view and has nothing to do with the migration of people from Pakistan. Just treat it null and void. I suggest writer to visit India before showing keen interest to ask nationality. Pakistan has given enough respect to the minorities and for the reason people of all faith and religion have been living indiscriminately for decades. Two or three isolated cases cannot put a stain on Pakistan's credibility.
September 10, 2012 10:05 am
I fear you have put your life in danger by writing this article given the kind of religious intolerance is there in Pakistan. Also, its not about Pakistan or India but this human civilization is mis-directed, largely by religion. Anyways you are welcome and free to live your life peacefully here.
September 10, 2012 10:08 am
my friends don't get caught by your emotions, it is known as satire...
September 10, 2012 10:09 am
What a slap.. WHAT a slap on Pak Govt.. But transgressed I must say..
September 12, 2012 12:47 pm
What are positives in todday,s Pakistan. Can sombody tell?
September 10, 2012 10:09 am
sorry to say but your way of asking for asylum in India is not convincing , infact disgracefull .. especially when you have no knowlege about sectrian discrimination and conflicts with in Indian society ..
September 10, 2012 10:10 am
Religion is not the business of State. Its a personal matter of an individual and State should not interfere in any manner on the personal matters.
Rahul Bhardwaj
September 10, 2012 10:13 am
This article brought tears to my eyes. Faiza, this article shows your level of expectation from your country. every one has his/her own, Have patience, peace and prosperity will find it's way. I agree religious minorities are somehow more prosperous in India. The only reason is, Except few lunatics, majority of Indian population has secular mind set and they do not see religious minority as a threat. religious minorities are well mingled, it's very common to see a muslim wearing a dhoti kurta and a hindu wearing pajamas and kameej. You are welcome to be a part of our big joint family called "India" :) My best wishes are with my fellow Pakistani friends... @Halima J Very smart observation indeed.... I can see so much pain in her article. This is such an irony that one has to write such an article to show her pain form her own country. My grandfather knew India when she was without borders, he used to say at that time people didn't use hateful language to address each other, i wonder how it may have felt. I read blogs, articles, notes written by some great thinkers across the border and then i read the comments written below !! God !! there is so much hate... People are willing to kill each other just for the sake of religion, to show the ethnic/cultural superiority. Despite our (not so great) past , we can't make our future without helping each other.
September 10, 2012 10:13 am
Somebody exile me too, please !!!!
September 11, 2012 3:47 pm
thanks for your sensible comment Faisal, I see hope now... I see hope, signs of an emerging new Pakistan... brave and tolerant Pakistan able to see beyond machoism and religious fanaticism
September 10, 2012 10:15 am
Pakistan is the country where every one have equal rites and all religion have freedom to worships and practice their religion in a appropriate manner! said by Jinnah the great leader. But are we doing? As our leader said. NO !!!! if we look towards the Hindus minority there girls have been raped and converted to Islam on the name of force marriages, not letting their funerals in proper Hindus way, Christians churches and their areas are burned to fire like it happened in past, not giving the equal employment rites and many more things like this. It is not happening with Christians and Hindus but also with all minorities of Pakistan and the Government is too fail to provide protection and equal rite to minorities. I strongly protest to migrate from Pakistan as I am Christian too but can any one give me a better reason to not leave Pakistan. If we look to the history and go through books and addressing of Muhammad Ali Jinnah we will find that he has made Pakistan for Muslims and as well for minorities too
September 10, 2012 10:18 am
shame on Dawn news. Our media is sold out
September 10, 2012 10:16 am
Spot on Rameez !!
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 11, 2012 3:47 pm
John, are you a Christian please correct me if I am wrong. if you are have you asked why your ancestors converted? If India was such a great place to live. Most of the Muslim and Christian converts are from lower casts and it was due to discrimination which is still wide spread they accepted other religions to get out of the rut
Iftekhar Mahmood
September 10, 2012 10:19 am
Firstly, all that glitters is not gold Faiza... Seriously, running off to India to get away from problems in Pakistan? Well, India has a plethora of its own. Its success in projecting an innocent image despite terrible human rights violations in Kashmir and elsewhere seems to have gotten to your head. India obviously isn't just what Bollywood or Mr Singh portray. We need to solve our problems. Let us have the will and gather the wherewithal to do the job rather than look up to an equally, or rather more, problem infested country. See how many of the Indians are already salivating at their imagined prospect of erasing the border. I would like to ask them why at the drop of a hat they talk of removing the line? They need to let go of their Akhand Bharat dreams. Indira's creation of Bangladesh to sink the two nation theory in the Bay of Bengal has not caused Bangladesh to erase the border. Why then every other Indian commentator here talks of merging in Pakistan's context?
September 10, 2012 10:19 am
No PM in world can say for it citizen "go, who is stoping them"
Dr K. a. Waheed
September 12, 2012 10:28 am
I can not understand what writer is attempting to convey. Christians want to migrate to India what happened to Christian missionaaries couple of years back perhaps respected writter did not remember. Thanks GOD writter has acknowledged that there are numerous of Kasabs roaming in Pakistan I am confident these so called Kasabs do not want to go to India so ALL PAKISTANIS do not want to go. Further the special treatment given to HINDUS as accepted by writter blows the Indian goverment cover of SECULERISM.
September 10, 2012 10:20 am
I like this article. Writer has raised a great point. Everyone in Pakistan is living under the thread of extremism. India should welcome all who want to migrate to India, not just Hindus.
September 10, 2012 10:24 am
Can you tell me who is ready to migrate to Afghanistan??? Are things better in Afghanistan???
September 10, 2012 10:30 am
Indian Goverment should make special policies to give citizenship to all Hinud, Sikhs and christians of Pakistan, whoever is willing to make India their home. And (un)fortunately, for muslims of Pakistan, I know for fact, that they will not be able to get asylam or citizenship of India, because of our goverment policies and most importantly, our mutual mistrust. Ths is the only logical solution, and our policies are also moving in the same direction. Within the next 10 years, we will not hear any stories of atrosities against minorities in Pakistan. And Ms Fazia, you are a wonderful and brave person, and for your own good, it is better for you to migrate to any other countries. Inspite of being so intelleligent and qualified, Gulf and arabs wont give you your due respect, as we all south asians are treated as third grade residents (we are never eligible for their citizenship). The best option for you is to move to any westeern countries. I'm sure you have already moved to one of those progressive and just countries in the west. And i wish you all tthe best for your future.
September 10, 2012 10:31 am
Superb article, why did no one before this had the courage to write this. Regretfully all Pakistanis except the Talibans are now pawn to these few citizens. Same time the government is itself running scared and paralysed.
AC 80 and 408
September 10, 2012 10:33 am
Wow! I realize it is satire with bit of stingy realism. But it takes guts to write this and publish it. Pls do not translate into Urdu, o/w Faiza may not find it healthy. Right or Wrong, What guts!!
September 10, 2012 10:33 am
Calm down guys Pakistan is a democratic(not really) country which gives its people the freedom of speech then what's wrong with it
September 10, 2012 9:00 pm
U have loads of courage to speak ur mind without being mindful of the brick bats..I envy writers of dawn, I wish India had some like u guys..
September 10, 2012 9:00 pm
For all who are sceptic about the condition of minorities in India.Yes i admit there were Problems in Gujarat and Orissa.But could you show me another country with this much diversity, Pagans and fanatics are there but open minded secular indians outnumber them. For instance we havea sikh Prime minister and sikh accounts less than 5p of our population.In my state,kerala we have a christian chief minister.Stop tarnishing image of India.All Pakistanis who seek asylum should be granted.We don want it free we have lot of india haters in our country we will sent it to your country
September 10, 2012 9:04 pm
It is a fact that per capita resources of Pakistan are better than that of India. Had Pakistan concentrated on its progress, it would have achieved it place in the comity of nations. But its obsession with India and Afghanistan created monsters which are threatening its own existance. Who can be blamed for that?
September 10, 2012 10:36 am
Dear Faiaza you are among those millions of youth who are frustrated by the prevailing scenario.On one hand you quote yourself as the one striving for the change and on the other hand you are so dejected to leave your birthplace .Pakistan may be worse but not worst than Burma and not even worst than your so called favorite asylum Indian occupied Kashmir.You can easily say that Quaid e Azam has failed but in my eyes he was, is and will champion . you did not happen to sing Banday Matram in the Hindu school in the morning assembly.You baqr eid has not passed in tension over giving qurbani of calf or cow.
Sudhir Deodhar
September 10, 2012 10:36 am
good writing... your free speak in Jinah's paper brings hope that pakistan can see positive change
Waqas Malik
September 10, 2012 10:36 am
It appears to me that the writer herself professes the same "extremist" thinking as the people she seems to berate. And for those who think this article is sarcasm, my dear friends you are mistaken. I would suggest with the utmost respect that when the writer states, "We all want to live in a country which is ruled by secular politicians where fascist elements are given minimum representation in the parliament," she seems to completely forget what democracy is, and further, whose definition defines "secular politicians", and "fascist elements." The change that she seeks will not come around by writing seething articles which will cause nothing but further division among the masses; and belittling people who already do not have much in this life by attacking the little pride they may have. I suggest as a young, motivated Pakistani woman, your efforts would be better served by educating, helping feed, clothe, and enlightening your fellow country-men to the need of the hour, i.e. hard work, commitment, patience, and an unwavering loyalty to the Pakistan we want to build for our future generations.
September 11, 2012 3:27 pm
A quick google gave me this link It is actually the border of Kerala and Kernataka
September 10, 2012 10:37 am
u r ignoring the reality that this sectarianism in pakistan is blessing of ur dear manmohan singh's india....... east or westhome is the best my dear
September 10, 2012 8:58 pm
I dont think if there were 50,000 Indians in Karachi and they wud not be behind bars and face charges of blasphemy, treason, terrorism etc..Please quote FROM WHERE U GOT THE FIGURES.An average Indian will be a bit skeptical to even visit pakistan, lest they should not be returning back, u know wat I mean??
September 11, 2012 3:27 pm
'Indian bias for Paki Hindus' - you see problem with India even when the problem is actually happening in Pak. What 'amazing' talent you have! Your country ill-treats Hindus, they ask for asylum, Thank God, Indian PM accepts it because Indian politics have been always opposed to taking such stands which jeopardises so called 'neighbourly relationship' and now someone like you has to see a bias here. India has rescued its muslim and christian nationals from Kuwait, Iraq at the times of war, more effectively than Pakis did when the Bush war started. In India we dont see religion all the time, we see beyond religion - but Paki-Shaitani like you will never understand. Never!!!
September 10, 2012 2:00 pm
Surely If winter comes comes,can spring be far behind!1!
September 10, 2012 8:54 pm
Indians read dawn not because dawn paper is good . Only to know the minds of radical islamic thinking and where it is tending to
September 10, 2012 10:43 am
It is a brave article. Although I don't see migration a solution of the problem. I would say, the patriotic Pakistani could only solve this problem. There is a revolution needed in Pakistan, to re-enforce the idea of secular Pakistan of Jinnah. Only difference I find in educated and liberal people of Pakistan and India, people of Pakistan are migrating to UK, US, Canada. Escape is not the way to build a country. Some people have to fight, some people need to sacrifice. We are facing problem of corruption in India, and we have selfless leader like Anna Hazare fighting for us. People of India came on streets to support him. I never heard of any such movement in Pakistan. Yeh, if majority of Pakistan don't want any minority, UN should intervene. Pakistan government can't ask for UN or US fund and make minority suffer.
September 10, 2012 10:44 am
Well.....all i can say why other religions arnt being offered same level of support by Indian Govt is...Pakistan proclaims itself as champion of muslim cause.....while vatican raises shrill voices over that leaves only Hindus without any sort of support....
September 10, 2012 8:52 pm
May some people would be interested in leaving India,,but they will do it for Pakistaan. what a joke. Country facing Bomb Blast daily,butchering of people daily,he is saying this. Muslims of Kashmir want you prople to leave them .
September 10, 2012 8:53 pm
Show me a single person who want to leave India for Pakistan..
September 10, 2012 10:48 am
Hi Faiza, I share your sentiments, being part of a minority family whose grand parents moved from Pakistan to India 6 decades ago. I feel sorry for all the people irrespective of their caste and creed who are feeling the same after 6 decades, Pakistan needs to rebuild itself. Migration not only to India but also to any other Western countries is not the solution. Pakistani people need to feel enough urge to bring their country back to sanity. As far as GoI is concerned, migrants should be treated on humanitarian views not on religious or sectorial pespective. Only welcoming Hindus and leaving the rest on dire straits is moronic. If we can take Tibetans, Bangladeshis, Rohingyas, Sri Lankans as refugees we should also take asylum seekers from Pakistan irrespective of their religious identities.
September 10, 2012 10:48 am
Great Article! Just because one has criticised the government or has an opinion does not mean that one has to give steps or give recommendations. It is for the government to fix the situation, we as citizens need to highlight the issues we see, in this case, atrocities being committed against minority in the name of religion! Highlighting is not damaging but its the first step of towards accepting the problem . This is called democracy and this is why you pick a Government to run the country! P.S: Where do I apply for an Indian Nationality? A Pakistani born aspiring want to be Indian Migrant who is actually going back to his homeland from where his family originated.
September 10, 2012 10:48 am
i am from india and shame to read this article , the author have no idea , how indians are living in extreme poverty with human right voilation , naxal rule in 33 % india , inflation around 10 % rising unemplyment indians are living in extreme poverty only insane person want to migrate to india ,
September 10, 2012 10:51 am
Faiza, if you are still alive because majority of fundamentalist are uneducated. Had they been, you won't have been able to leave the country. BTW welcome to India, if you wish.
September 10, 2012 10:52 am
Dear Rameez, There is no rocket science required to solve our problems. We just need to get rid of exterimism. The same extremism which we adopted as an strategic asset. Common people can only point towards this problem but it can only be solved by people in power.
Shankar Bandyopadhay
September 11, 2012 3:23 pm
And a great job he did. Can you imagine coexisting with such a society ? I have lot for respect for Jinnah's foresight than any of our great Gandhi/Nehru who totally lacked practicality. Yes Hindu and Muslims are two nations and they should maintain arms length distsance if not more.
September 10, 2012 12:29 pm
Kindly post this un-posted letter to Mr. Singh if possible. He will be glad to receive it..
September 10, 2012 12:28 pm
Dont read books, visit us once you will know the difference. Also visit Kashmir to know the reality. I was in Kashmir valley this summer and there is a huge change in the atmosphere and by Gods grace everything will be good.
September 10, 2012 11:09 am
If that makes you happy Faiz, Whatever ! By the way, I hope the extra population is happy to be in Pakistan.
September 10, 2012 11:10 am
Faiza, You seems to be carrying the genetic linkage of a beautiful, intelligent and independent - Hindu fore-mother, captured and converted as war-booty hundreds of years back. Please don't let die your spirit. Don't forget you are carrying five thousand year old heritage with you. Whole of progressive India is with you in your fight against radicalism.
September 11, 2012 3:13 pm
Faiza is in no threat from Sikhs or Hindus... she is in threat from Pakistanis like you who consider her traitor... there is no place for minorities in Pak... after Hindus and christians, it will be women (they speak sense and are a minority)
Siddique Humayun
September 11, 2012 3:12 pm
”Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality.” Like seriously? "Most of us"? I think it is better to consult a dictionary in case you are unsure on how to complete a sentence. This is a blatant and absolute exaggeration. An exaggeration that hurts the sentiments of, in your words, "most of us". Where did you get the idea from anyway? Even if we go by your argument that all minorities living in Pakistan are always under threat, and every single one of them would want to migrate, it still makes it a "minority", and certainly not "most of us". Appalling article. Despicable.
September 11, 2012 3:12 pm
Kashmir has many problems ... check and see if muslims in other parts of India face the same. I am a Christian and live in western India, along with my Hindu, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Sikh and Parsi friends (just to name a few). We celebrate all religious festivals and exchange sweets during these times. Can you say the same for other minorities in your country? be the change, look at things that are wrong and correct them rather than finger pointing at others - even in India we have had problems (I am not denying this) - justice has also been served - life sentences - pls check.
September 10, 2012 11:11 am
It is not about living under or ruling anyone but it is about living happily together.. Something that I guess is very difficult for you to understand so forget it :)
Vinod kapoor
September 12, 2012 11:01 am
Good logic but united India too was one family.
September 11, 2012 3:12 pm
WoW - After three wars and several attacks later you wish to move to India. You must hate Pakistan very much.
September 11, 2012 3:11 pm
great job mirza. we should send similar letters to the pm of malaysia, turkey, iran, heck even sri lanka would be better than the silly state of pakistan....jinnnahs' pakistan was hijacked long time ago, unless untill us marines start shooting at mullahs on the street of pakistan and the next 'generation' of people separate religion and state, there will be no peace and security for anyone in pakistan. b
September 10, 2012 11:13 am
Very sad, but very true. We have now become the Mad Mullah Republic of Pakistan. This is not what our forefathers had signed up for.
September 10, 2012 11:13 am
what a fatastic piece. For saythetruth10, you will only understand when your, brother/son/father will be murdered in broad daylight or will be a victim of a stray bullet, unless you are one of the terrorist yourself.
September 11, 2012 3:10 pm
Sir,we in India are also struggling but i would like to tell you one thing,we have developed resilience in the face of challenges. i see many poor people also have hope,have dignity and i know they will succeed one day. Unfortunately, your beautiful country has been going down due to corrupt leaders, mafia, gangs, mullahs ,everyone trying to exploit the people In India ,our biggest challenge is the corrupt politicians who stolen billions ,maybe even trillions of dollars of our hard earned wealth. I hope things improve for you and us fast. Pakistan is a county which should lead the world.
September 10, 2012 11:14 am
Rather than seeking asylum in india, such people should try hard to reverse history i.e partition of 1947. I know i am being emotional and not many pakistanis have emotions. If they have, come forward and say that you too want partition to be reversed. Kash main bhi wagah border paar kar ke lahore ja sakta or mujhe sirf parade dekh kar wapas na aana padta or main us lakeer ke paar ja kar udhar ke logon se gale mil kar puchta kya aap sach much hindustan se nafrat karte ho jaisa ki dikhaya or bataya jata hai ?
September 10, 2012 11:15 am
there was a time when the daughters of Sindh used to seek help of Muslim conquerors.. It seems the tables have turned..
September 10, 2012 11:16 am
Perhaps this was a slap to the Indian Government
September 10, 2012 11:16 am
@Dawood and @Sabir - As long as people like you live in denial and believe all that is wrong with Pakistan is because of India and US and if ppl like you are in majority, no one can save Pakistan... wake up and face reality... The writer is not actually suggesting you to run to India..but is trying to wake you up...
September 10, 2012 11:17 am
go and cry out with emotions and blame yourself all day like a looser or strive to win and move ahead its for you to choose!
September 11, 2012 8:03 pm
Truth hurts right!!!
September 12, 2012 10:30 am
Terrorism has no nationality, caste or creed and I agree that if Hindus have a case to be considered for asylum, then Muslims and Christians should. also be considered. What the Indian government has considered is hypocritical bias and proving once more that India is firstly a Hindu state and not secular. Terrorism and prejudice has affected every community in Pakistan even the mainstream. Dr Singh must consider what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
September 11, 2012 6:24 pm
such an immature and idiotic article... most of us do not want indian citizenship... american, canadian, australian, british yes.... but Indian citizenship hahah thank you but NO :)
September 11, 2012 3:08 pm
no you have not failed Jinnah. You have continued his legacy. He would be very proud of the divided state of affairs of Pakistan. After all he was the one who divided the sub-continent
September 11, 2012 3:08 pm
pleased to see a man who can see the reality and truth as it is... women usually have this talent, but only some men brave enough can speak their truth... my love to all gentle and sensible Pakistanis from an Indian brother
September 10, 2012 11:18 am
This is complete nonsense coming out of this author. I wonder how a newspaper like Dawn can allow such traitorous on its page? This is not freedom of speech.
September 10, 2012 11:18 am
People want to have good life before death. But in the Country building -generations gone you become emotional and desperate.The same culture, people everything same then why 2 countries?. This is the reason of such articles and tearing of border is not at all ruled out. Imagine the vast country you can move around do business, work etc and live as per your capability.
jd shami
September 10, 2012 8:46 pm
Faiza: Who needs enemies, u r here. You wanna go to India, I will buy your one way ticket and then see what these Hindu's do to you. I trhink ur parents have not raised you right.
September 10, 2012 8:23 pm
"Pakistan is the country where every one have equal rites and all religion have freedom to worships and practice their religion in a appropriate manner!". Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "in an appropriate manner".
Muhammad Ashraf
September 10, 2012 11:21 am
Pakistan was created in the name of Islam. We promised to Allah that we will implement Islamic ideology in the country. We have failed in doing so. I am afraid Allah may be NARAZ with us, and that's why we are in bad shape. Now if we run out of this country, we will NOT be able to run from warth of Allah. The only option we have is to revert back to Islam, not as ruitals only but also as a complete code of conduct of human life. I am pretty sure that one day our society would be cleansed and then Islam in its true shape would emerge, and then everybody would see hwo mankind can live in peace and harmony. o" Allah we beg your pardon and please help us and dont leave us alone.
Naveen Kumar
September 10, 2012 11:22 am
Given a chance , I would love to invite Fiza to India (I bet even our PM would not say no if he read this article). Its not meant as a joke , I am perfectly serious . Moderate Minded people like her are an asset to any country . Moving over to the issue, As per my knowledge Indian authorities are not being particular about religion of those seeking asylum though there is a sympathetic undercurrent in the Indian media as the people in question are hindus . Now the best thing for us humans would be to bat for every persecuted Human rather than just merely for those belonging to our little tribe/clan/faith but unfortunately most of us have not yet advanced to that mental stage. Keeping this in mind , I think the Indian media & much of the populace's approach is justified as there is only one significant country on the entire planet where a persecuted bunch of Hindus can expect some sort of empathy and sympathy . For Muslims & Christians minorities anywhere , There are a large set of powerful countries who are ready to come to their aid but for Hindu minorities anywhere ,usually there's just Indian people and media from whom they can expect some little support . I am not trying to play the victim card but the fact is that on a global stage , Hindus are a minority and being limited in their geographical spread (largely to Indian Subcontinent) , their minorities elsewhere on the planet are highly vulnerable to being persecuted without much noise being made at International level if Indian media and people are to keep silent .
September 11, 2012 3:07 pm
"...and see how they are threatened and harassed in ways that are unfathomable by many." " myself freely without being threatened and flagged as a heretic." I too could feel the fierce emotions you expressed .. no matter what others say now they will gradually understand
September 10, 2012 11:25 am
Each and every human being in this world has the right to live a respectable and a safe life regardless of their faith, color, nationality and gender. Faiza, you have good writing skills, however you have used these skills just to highlight a negative aspect of Pakistan. We as a human being have very short term memory, the discrimination in India is extremely high and especially to a particular community and this community is suffering since 1947. I have worked in India for a year and perhaps I have seen more India then most of Indians have. Let's take an example of Indian Gujarat, Barbri Musjid. India do portrait itself as a secular state however their caste system is the perfect example how they can be a secular state when they cannot protect their owns (Hindus) never minds other faiths in India. Their prominent cities have been divided by faiths old underdeveloped Delhi is for one community and the New Delhi (Noida) is for other faith and Bombay have the similar situation. There are no IT industrial zones in Calcutta like in the rest of the India and would you like to know why because majority of the population there is from a faith they do not appreciate. This is a never ending story in India and India is as corrupt as we are here in Pakistan. You are Pakistan, I am Pakistan if you are calling your own country corrupt then we all need to look in the mirror. I do agree that currently there are more negatives then positives however we are equally responsible for this mess. Please could you name one country in this world has not got the corruption. Pakistan Zindabad.
Manvendra (@goldi_civil)
September 10, 2012 11:28 am
There are several muslims from FATA/NWP migrated to India after partition. Filmstar Shahruskh Family , than Md Yunus family member of Fronmier Gandhi family and others . Indian govt never refuses its just red tap
September 10, 2012 11:28 am
the question is not that are pakistanis willing to merge with india. question is , is india willing to let pakistan merge with it? and get all its problems for free and nothing but a handful of nukes to show for it in return.
September 10, 2012 11:29 am
As far as I am concerned,as a Hindu Indian citizen I will welcome anyone of ANY religion who is being persecuted anywhere in the world including Pakistan
September 10, 2012 11:30 am
What..Faiza?Even I m from india but I will refuse to go with your article.Before giving asylum to all shia,sunni,ahmedi and christian a simple question to you,for what you people got Land of pure.Its a shame that you cant protect your land and simply giving it up to the hand of taliban.Anyhow we came to accept that hindus cannot live with muslim coz of difference in ideology,so they r given asylum.But about other sect and religion ,it is completely unacceptable.If situation is so bad, i can tell you we indians r well capable to keep our country as well pakistan under our control and will name it united india.We never let you go in the hand of taliban that is for sure. and why should we.once it was our land.But i hope pakistan should never meet such a have all the resources and r a nuclear armed nation.your army is the sixth largest in the world and still you r insecure.Really something going wrong from the part of govt and judiciary.I hope everything will be ok and yours will be a growing society.I always would like to see rival pakistan in terms of economy ,education with respect to india rather an unstable,unsafe pakistan.
September 10, 2012 11:30 am
I'll die in Pakistan then to move to India. How on earth can you even think of moving to India? They can't take caer of their own 1 billion massive population so what you gonna get? Secondly, half of Pakistani problems are caused by India even the war in NWFP. If they wanna run away, they will go to China, Iran or any other country but not "INDIA"!! You are saying that many Pakistani will not admit, maybe you have only met people like you who don;t deserve to be called as "Pakistani", and m sure when you travel abroad if you ever do, instead of taking pride and being an ambassador of Pakistan, you'll be licking on other nationalities. I'm extremely disappointed by both the writer and DAWN which allowed such nonsense to even be published.
September 11, 2012 3:01 pm
Even Living in UK for long-time and having abundance of opportunities to settle in UK I decided to go back to Pakistan because that my country I wont deny that we have problems but they can only be fixed from inside and I want to become the first drop of rain in this revolution and I strongly believe that my fellow country man have the same passion from their country .... For those who admire the writer ideology I will only say love it or leave it .. lots of love for Pakistan .... Pakistan Zindabad
September 10, 2012 11:31 am
India follows a liberal asylum policy, and all are welcome. There is no discrimination on religious grounds, as, the law does not recognize any religion. Except for Tibetans who get automatic asylum on reaching Indian soil, all others are required to follow the due process which by design and deliberation is very compassionate. And, so has been so for ages. Jews, Parsis, Arabs, Francisians, Tibetans et al have escaped persecution in their lands and made India their home and enriched her in the process.
September 11, 2012 3:00 pm
you already have enough to demonize pakistan and yourself.. you surely don't need her.,..
September 10, 2012 11:35 am
Shakir - its ok to have freedom of speech but the author here is trying to put her opinion on the mouth of all Pakistanis. If she wanna move then go and do it, why say that most Pakistanis want to move to Inda. All Pakistanis that I know really hate India and would die than to ask help from them. Remember Rashid Minhas and other shaheeds who gave their lives than being a prisoner in India, they didn't die to see this day and this kinda speech.
September 10, 2012 11:36 am
and how does it matter. I would rather live where my life, property, views, and family is respected and protected be it amongst the so called infidels than be amongst the so called name sake muslims.
September 10, 2012 11:36 am
Are you Serious? Migrate to Afgahnistan? Grass is always greener on the other side. Have you forgotten the atrocities on muslim/christains in india (number wise they have killed more miniorties) - the massacre of gujjart among many others? What we need to realise is that there is evil in every socities Pakistan, India or any where is the world.. we need to face upto the evil and make OUR country right rather than fantasizing and running away. Always Pakistan!!!!!
September 11, 2012 2:58 pm
guess bot baluchistan too ;)
September 10, 2012 11:37 am
A very honest and brave letter from the writer.if people like these grow in numbers in pakistan then pakistan will definitely will shine one day on its own without help from other developing and developed countries
September 11, 2012 2:56 pm
you have lost your toxicity.. :D
September 10, 2012 8:44 pm
Sardar Ji, satire is in your name.
atif hamayun
September 10, 2012 8:43 pm
Dear All indian please see the comment of vijay, chennai, India true face of india
September 11, 2012 2:55 pm
Didn't you saw pakistan flag in the heart of India's Capital Mumbai just few days ago.... and besides this was not the first one and will not be the last as well.
September 11, 2012 2:54 pm
At least in India there are laws that protect the common man ... Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Jew. In Pakistan, as we have heard on the news time and again ... you could be killed just for being from another religion. Please introspect - I'm a Indian Christian and our family has lived in peace and harmony with other religions here for 4 generations now. Look to have laws that are equal to all, be especially protective for those who cannot defend themselves rather than making life more difficult for them. In other countries where Muslims are a majority, you have laws which protect minority religions from oppression and discrimination - can you say the same for Pakistan? True religion promotes love and care, not hatred. God bless you all in Pakistan and give you wisdom to do the right things.
September 11, 2012 2:54 pm
Faiza, I dont know what kind of world you live in, but nobody leaves one country because it is facing trouble.You madam are a coward at heart who now openly admits it and to support it, also fallaciously rope in the entire population!...if your own house caught a bug phenemenon would you leave your house and start living in your worst neighbours house for life...shameful article coming from a woman!.
September 10, 2012 8:28 pm
Pakistani leaving for India? My only thought ---> Hahahahahahahaha....what a joke....who would want to go live in that place?
September 12, 2012 2:37 am
Bhai, I suggest you guys build a society with school teaching based on co-existence and tolerance. Believe me things will be better soon.
September 10, 2012 8:29 pm
I know what this gentlemen means!!! MOHAJIR = 50,000 Indians!!!! Very disturbing very very disturbing. It has been 65 years now.
Rashid Sultan
September 10, 2012 11:44 am
We are born of the same mother. Mother suffered horrendous birth pains. Now we bear the scars. We split our ancestral inheritance. We said we had different faiths that were not reconcilable. Lies, damn lies. Religion and faith are personal matters. State should have nothing to do with faith and religion. Only humanity should define us. India should be magnanimous enough to offer refuge to anyone who seeks its shelter and protection. It did it for people from Tibet in the '50s. It should, and must, for anyone from Pakistan as a matter of policy.
Shankar Bandyopadhay
September 11, 2012 2:54 pm
Dawn is of the last hope for sanity in this insane subcontinent.
Shankar Bandyopadhay
September 11, 2012 2:53 pm
Totally Agree...Times of India is worst type of journalism...yes nothing less than a tabloid.
September 10, 2012 11:45 am
This is a satire...But if you want to test India's resolve ..please do apply.. India believes in secularism.. you are free to apply. We welcome all those who come with sincere intentions to improve their standard of living. God bless.
September 10, 2012 11:45 am
have you been sleeping for the past few years? or perhaps past few months? Answer may be yes. But you belong to the vast majority who have closed their souls to all the wrongs that happen on a daily basis. Long beards, short shalwars, calling Ramadan rather than Ramzan, zero tolerance for others, driving to break your fast while violating all traffic rules, saying Inshallah when you actually mean you have no desire to do it are what is more important. Hindus, Christians, Ahmedis, Shias are all infidels liable to be killed because you lot think so.
September 10, 2012 11:45 am
pak....istan....., can anyone tell how much pak is it.
Azhar Hussain
September 10, 2012 11:46 am
The reporter is going overboard with her assumptions. On average there are almost 50,000 illegel Indians living in Karachi and would love to become Pakistanis. It is there choice! Reporter should know that there 7 million people of different natinoalities living illegally in the USA, coming from all cornors of the world. People are always looking for a better place to live and raise their families. Having said that fact is the Islamic extreamists have created hell for an average Pakistani. We also need to create hell for them, so that they can leave us and go to their better place.
September 10, 2012 11:48 am
Yeah right. blame everyone else but yourself.
Shankar Bandyopadhay
September 11, 2012 2:50 pm
At least India has a 'Sachar Commission' report that too written by Hindu judges.
September 11, 2012 2:50 pm
come here and explore for yourself Omer.. you might be left pondering that such a massive population with so many religions, so much diversity and so many states still thrive for the one name... INDIA.... thats commendable.. and you guys can't even afloat a country entirely based on a single religion... jst see what a cesspool pakistan has become now...
September 10, 2012 11:50 am
Faiza unbelievable writing. I am sure lots of people identify with your writing regards naveen
shakeel khan
September 10, 2012 11:50 am
simply preposterous! we do feel the pangs of despised love for our country. and feeling of dejection/depression/frustration and what not.but it does not mean that we should start shouting re-enslavement. can you enlighten me about the number of muslims in india in higher echelons?just a handful. pakistan may be sickman of asia but it is no use to get out of frying pan just to jump into the fire. no wisdom. whatever you have written in this column you will never be able to write in an indian daily.
September 11, 2012 10:59 pm
I am sad to say most people here have missed the point. I pity our country, the pace at which we travel towards disaster is remarkable......
September 10, 2012 11:54 am
you asked a valid question ms. Faiza Mirza, answer would be pretty easy to find... check how many bangaldeshi muslims live in india without even proper permission and you gonna find that religion had nothing to do with it... religion only had it on pakistani side, which these people want to leave....
ouch..this hurts
September 10, 2012 8:41 pm
As a shia Muslim, begging the sunnis to not put their hate of Shia above their love of Islam, I say this to Ms. Mirza - Ms. Mirza, It is very hard to swallow your letter. I really believe you are trying to provoke people for publicity... and you win. It is so hard to swallow this. Surely you have at least an ounce of pride left in you? Yes, we are going through a hard time, but Pakistan was not always this, and it will not always be this. You are free to flee but you should not be free to humiliate us like this.
September 10, 2012 11:55 am
Though I have appreciated Faiza's previous articles, this one appears to me to be pretty awkward. The arguments in this sound a bit too idealistic and unrealistic, and definitely looks like playing to the gallery of Pakistan-bashers. By no extent of imagination can India claim to be the promised land for minorities ( or lower caste Hindus, for that matter). While there are many states where minorities are very prominent to the extent of dwarfing the Hindus (like Kerala, Punjab and the North Eastern states), in other places things are a mixed bag. From my personal experience, animosity between religious communities and the resultant stereotypings are still widespread, but in many cases they may not be so visible as people tend to discuss this only among their own communities. Social discrimination against the lower castes are still rampant, if I am to believe the news reports in Indian papers. But I do agree that there is a silver lining though. Despite the presence of various divisive forces and frequent riots, India's foundation still rests solidly on pluralism. The principle of secularism is so entrenched in the Indian constitution and laws that even a rightwing party like the BJP are forced to argue that their concept of 'Hindutva' is secular and not religious. When compared to Pakistan, minorities in India may have greater belief in the impartiality of the Indian judicial system as the recent high-profile convictions of many accused in the Gujarat massacre has shown. And that could very well be the reason why Indian minorities prefer to stay in India and fight their cases in Indian courts rather than fleeing to the neighbouring countries like Pakistan. I hope this crucial factor will be instrumental in ultimately blurring all religious, caste, linguistic and ethnic differences among Indians and transform India into a pluralistic, secular and liberal democracy.
shakeel khan
September 10, 2012 11:57 am
go and search for poverty statistics in india, especially amongst muslims.
atif hamayun
September 10, 2012 8:41 pm
BRR please read the comment of vijay, chennai, India ture face of india... lolzz
September 10, 2012 12:24 pm
Pakistanis are their own enemies. with every killing claimed to be done by a group or other, media airs their claim, we all hear it and so does the govt. what have you posted or said on those killing of minorities. Possibly nothing.
Malik Assani
September 10, 2012 8:33 pm
Faiza, you sound sick of Pakistan & should'nt waste any time & leave...Bon Voyage. PS: Could you please do us a favor and take Farooq Paracha with you 'cause he makes us feel sicker and a lot more pessimistic than we are. I thank you in anticipation. All the best from your ex-countryman.
September 10, 2012 11:57 am
This piece is indeed a satire and it is really addressed to Pakistanis than Dr Manmohan Singh. On a serious note, however, I feel that if Pakistani Christians, Ahmadis and other "persecuted sects" do come to India, they will be given refuge. Ask the Parsees, the Jews and Christians.
Sacha Singh
September 10, 2012 11:59 am
Where is satire? Certainly not in the fear of the Christians living in Pakistan or in the persecution of Ahmadias. Perhaps in fascists not getting to form a big part of the Government in India. We too have our Sanghs, Hindu chauvanists...
September 10, 2012 11:59 am
FAIZA, What a emotional writing. Yes, Govt. of India technically can not object if non-Hindu Pakistani also wants asylum in India & India can not afford to give such large scale asylum. So what is the way out? Is not is the duty of the Pakistani people to rout out all those responsible such situation? Faiza, pls. do write such blatant prick one's heart.
September 11, 2012 2:36 pm
Your above article will evoke very strong criticism.Countries pass through some distressing moments, but hope should not be lost as there should be light at the end of dark tunnel by almightys grace.
September 11, 2012 2:36 pm
I think its time to rethink the word two nations theory and consider one Hindustan again. Let the divide be done and over with unite the two part and become one Great Hindustan like before..any one care
September 10, 2012 12:01 pm
does it matter?. I would rather live amongst millions of infidels who care about protecting my life, my family, property, freedom to practice my religion than amongst the "ummah" which has zero tolerance for others.
September 10, 2012 12:04 pm
This is not freedom of speech. It is called stating the facts.You know it, the world knows it and yet people like you tend to deny it.
September 10, 2012 12:04 pm
People thinking this article is an incorrect representation belong to the vast majority who have closed their souls to all the wrongs that happen on a daily basis. Long beards, short shalwars, calling Ramadan rather than Ramzan, zero tolerance for others, driving to break your fast while violating all traffic rules, saying Inshallah when you actually mean you have no desire to do it are what is more important. Hindus, Christians, Ahmedis, Shias are all infidels liable to be killed because you lot think so. I would rather live amongst millions of infidels who care about protecting my life, my family, property, freedom to practice my religion than amongst the “ummah” which has zero tolerance for others.
September 11, 2012 2:35 pm
I read this article twice just to make sure I understood what the writer was trying or meaning to say all I can say this is written by someone that may be from Pakistan but with a foreign heart , educated but misinformed , sincere but scandalous. Now a days everyone is a victim in Pakistan Hindu, Christian, Shia, Balochi,Farmer,doctors,students..... apparently everyone that gets face time on TV, not saying that they are not, but they are persecuted groups around the world in developed and non developed countries alike the only difference the media and that they stay and fight for their rights. Blacks in the US had been victims from 100s of years you never saw them running abroad they stood their ground and today they have a black president.We have Hindu and Christian parliamentarians who only bring minority problems to light when it is vote bankable why not ask them???? Terrorism and bad governance do not see religion or nationality . Question to all my Indian friends please explain Gujrat ?? please expalin Babri masjid??? anti sikh riots???violnce against christians in the north east ???? explain the mass graves of kashmiris . Always help your neighbor because if his house is on fire it is only a matter of time it spreads to your.
September 10, 2012 12:06 pm
Faiza, I am ashamed of calling you a fellow a Pakistani. Please answer me where should we go in India, to UP where the Babari mosque was demolished, to Assam where 50 Muslims died in recent clashes, to Gujrat where 1000 muslims were tortured to death in 2002, to Orissa where 60 Christians were slaughtered and dozens of Churches burnt, to Karnataka where 20 churches were vandalized 4 years ago, or to Bombay where 570 Muslims died after the babari mosque massacre? Get your facts straight before writing such a piece and a try to be a little open minded before reflecting your opinions.
September 10, 2012 1:00 pm
exactly ! India, like US is ready to give asylum and is giving asylum, legally or illegally to millions of people. Come, have your share as well.
September 10, 2012 12:06 pm
u r always welcome to our country . and change wont come through web but u will have to come on streets to fight with system. india is nowhere near to an ideal democracy , our leades r corrupt and shameless. we just pretend to be democratic . most of us will only remain citizens forever destined to be ruled by a GANDHI or bunch of foolish bjp oldies.its very wrong of u to allege that we r a progressive society. i request u to come to india and spend few months as an ordinary citizen, then u wont ever talk of living in this country. and very soon ours will be a totally sold out country , where all the natural wealth will be owned by few richyrichs.our country will be in a deep mess , our leaders will be living in foreign countries with the hard earned wealth.
September 10, 2012 8:38 pm
I can't believe I read this article, Never in this life I would ever want to emigrate to india, NEVER, dawn please don't post such articles. It hurts our feelings.
September 11, 2012 6:13 am
True, Pakistan is going through tough times but my heart says that Pakistan will overcome and become better and prosperous. Once more people get educated and i think things are improving albeit with challenges Best of luck to Pakistan. If anyone wishes to come to India ,he is welcome . However, there is no place like home
Rahul D B
September 11, 2012 6:13 am
Not a practical solution but it's the thought that counts. Pakistanis need to know that the majority of Indians see our nation as a refuge for prosecuted people for centuries and are proud of that heritage.
September 10, 2012 12:09 pm
East Germans took initiative and West did nothing but accepted it. If you feel merger is good join in thousands and just remove the border. It will be one country like before separation..
September 10, 2012 12:10 pm
In 2020 Pakistan will be number one!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a progress !!!!!!!!!
September 11, 2012 2:19 pm
beg to differ my lord. The Political, Economic and Military elite of Pak has reserved that title for all of itself.
Goga Nalaik
September 10, 2012 12:12 pm
How about going to Malaysia !
September 10, 2012 9:42 am
Just FYI pakistan has different culture which comprises Punjabi and Pakhtuns dominating the whole country. We only have very few similarities. We hope that we don't want become terrorist nation be calling merger. They will salughter fellow minorities like sikh/budhhist/christian. Religion itself is based on lot of hatred can't help them. Those who are suffering at large like christians / hindus /sikhs are welcome but please no terrorist.
September 10, 2012 12:16 pm
How about we start by sending the author over first
Ahsan Iftikhar (@Ahsan_Iftikhar)
September 11, 2012 10:16 am
I had already commented. However, I would just like the writer of this article to ponder and self reflect. Is it really that bad in Pakistan, that you can say the worst of the negative things without any sense of attachment. I do not deny the fact that there are problems, but going to the extent that you have gone by only writing in the most cynical way is not going to help. Isn't your articles a form of extremism in thought. (Please don't get offended, these are my humble thoughts for you) Finally, as I already said in my earlier post anyone who wants to go should be allowed and facilitated. Love to the country, parents and family should be unconditional. A companion of good times is no companion at all.
September 10, 2012 12:17 pm
India is ready to welcome only non-Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh.
September 11, 2012 10:16 am
again one cannot be generalized !
September 10, 2012 12:19 pm
Your right, officially India has 3rd largest muslim population after Indonesia and Pakistan. However I believe unofficial figures will put India in 2nd position. There are muslims in every major city in India and as well as small towns and villages have muslims. Infact the area called old city in every city belongs to Muslims.
September 10, 2012 8:28 pm
She is a coward to think that the solution is to leave Pakistan. It is the fault of the people of Pakistan for electing these corrupt individuals. First look at yourself, try to improve yourself and then try to change others. The onus is on the middle class to change. Next elections are a few months away, choose wisely and elect someone who everyone knows is a brighter prospect than the tried and tested ones.
Tanweer Raza
September 10, 2012 12:22 pm
Dear writer, Kindly carry out a proper research of India, before you decide to send in this letter. India too has a miserable track record when it comes to dealing with minorities. please do not get carried away by BOLLY WOOD and their Channels and Ads. Reality is that Pakistan is much better off than India; and the best way is to fight out our problems; not run away from them.
September 11, 2012 10:13 am
good one ! so Dr in what ? comedy I assume:P
September 11, 2012 10:14 am
exactly my point !! why India ? it is as ridiculous as pakistan is accused to be !
September 11, 2012 10:12 am
an utter disgrace on your identity!!!
September 10, 2012 12:23 pm
Could have been written better but I get the idea. Dont know what ppl are getting emotional about, its meant to be ironic. And I honestly didnt realise how many Indians read Dawn.
Nitin R
September 11, 2012 1:28 pm
Mr Singh is not responsible to the people of Pakistan. He has a nation of his own to take care of. Why not just solve your own problems and leave India alone! We have better things to do and got the world to beat.. Y'all just have India to beat..
September 10, 2012 1:00 pm
Must have been written with a very HEAVY heart - let us hope Pakistan turns the corner soon and sees much better days - EVERY NIGHT HAS A MORNING and HOPE IS WHERE THE HEART IS....
Tanweer Raza
September 10, 2012 12:26 pm
Well said Rameez. This is indeed a poor analysis by the writer..... atleast for her proposed destination.
Prakash Ullegaddi
September 11, 2012 6:22 pm
Mam, I salute your courage to write such a letter being in Pakistan, i guess what goes in your mind on response from so called Pakistani patriotic like laal topis. I am a Indian, I liked it the way it is written in the context of today's state of Pakistan, but, is it not right to post such writings to those who made today's Pakistan?. Namely, your own army, your own elite society, and all other brotherly countries who donate billions of dollars other than USA. While you are welcome to live in India but what about those who are truly patriotic of Pakistan?. In the past I had a dream to see Europe and US and I fulfilled it, now i have a dream to tour Pakistan, up course not today's Pakistan but the one that had a rich heritage, culture and tolerance. I wonder if can ever make it. I am being deprived of my dream coz of the same reason why you are deprived of being citizen of India. I don't see any of our dreams fulfilled now but I would surely tell my son/daughter to pursue our dreams! Bomboo tree shows no sign of growth initially for years but grows inches and feets in few weeks later, so lets not give up, just hang on..
an ex-citizen
September 11, 2012 2:27 pm
Thats the problem with us Pakis. We are a shameless lot - in a country that has no water, no electricity, no law and order, people still urinating, defecating, spitting publicly, men-folk supposedly purifying themselves with stones in plain view of women and children, who after 60+ years of being provided a nation, half of which they lost by murdering men and raping the women of the other brotherly half, now slaughter 6 year old children, where there's more show of worship than humility and love - still preach about sincerety to the nation. I think we should stop wearing clothes to cover our bodies - we already have become one with the animal kingdom. You sirs who love this country so much, I bet would bend over backwards if given visas to another country, stay in Pakistan. You desrver each other. Islam is not in the Pakistan only, You can live it by making it a part of heart and soul anywhere in this world. My hats of to Ms. Mirza, you are the kind of honest people a nation needs. Unluckil, the idiots who jumped out of their skin to berate you are the same cowards who have destroyed a beutiful country.
September 11, 2012 7:45 pm
@JD SHAME!!! She has seen what MUSLIMS do in Pak!!! Big reason why she wants to getoutta there!!
September 10, 2012 12:29 pm
Welcome Faiza. We Indians have no problem with any secular minded people. But the answer is not running away from these taliban mindsets but to challenge them and defeat them in your own country
September 12, 2012 10:42 am
Thousands of Indians from the UK and the USA have reverse=migrated to India. The economy,even in the worst of the times,is growing three times as faster than developed economies. There are videos in you tube Russian TV news stories covering this reverse=migration. Look it up?
September 11, 2012 7:07 pm
means yellow journalism! nothing different than the lot
September 11, 2012 5:33 pm
any proof that you are an Indian Muslim?
Sabir Ayub Rabbani
September 10, 2012 9:27 am
Dear Ms. Faiza... It can be your opinion. But me and many like me are very happy living here. This is my country and no matter what happen I will never think of leaving it for any other country and Specially India. I know there are problems here, but that does not mean that you leave. Problems are every where even in so called democratic and free for all India. You should know what happened to Muslims in Gujarat or what is happening to Muslims in Kashmir. You live here, eat here, earn here and yet complain. People like you should be boarded on a one way plane to India. But the problem is that they won't accept you either, because the person who is not loyal to one country can not be loyal to another.
September 11, 2012 2:15 pm
asking indian PM for asylum, what a sarcastic joke ! " India is the most dangerous country for minorities " (UNO)
September 11, 2012 2:20 pm
I have personally met people who migrated from Indian Kashmir to Pakistani Kashmir in 1990s, and have heard of few sikhs who migrated during the crackdown days in Punjab.
Waqas Malik
September 10, 2012 12:36 pm
Why have my comments not been moderated, yet?
September 10, 2012 12:37 pm
aap ney toh aisa record diya kay daily basis pay masjid tootrey aur har roz minorities mar rahey hai. is may hindu kitney mare uska aap ney toh hisab nahi diya. with the scale diversity India is still better any day. no doubt there are cry babies on both side.
Raghu S Johar
September 11, 2012 2:13 pm
When an outsider learns that a Muslim even kills a Muslim in Pakistan just being Sunni, Shia or Ahmedia what to speak of Hindus or Christians, he or she consider Pakistan not a good country to live in. India is not a perfect country and there are some riots between Hindus and Muslims but nobody condones them. There are some systems where people go to court and perpetrators are convicted. You have never heard any Hindu killing a Hindu whether he is a Sanatni (who worship idol), Arya Samaji (who is totally against idle worship) or Jaini or Bodhi. Pakistan needs to eliminate intolerance of other religions. Islam is such a beautiful religion but extremist Mullahs have been doing the biggest disservice to it and throughout world people started associating Islam with terrorism. It becomes the duty of Muslims to remove this wrong notion from the minds of people of the world to become more tolerant and peaceful as Prophet visualized.
September 11, 2012 2:13 pm
progressive change ? marxist revolution, progressive secular stalinian massacres ? or a new messiah ?
September 10, 2012 12:38 pm
Hi Faiza Mirza, Congratulation for such a wonderful article. I think people are getting emotional after reading your article. We should be practical. In my opinion first of all Indian government should not encourage such a move to provide such help. In India the major problem is illegal migrants from Bangladesh. Creating big problem in most of the states particularly in eastern states in India. It also gives wrong impression about Pakistan that they can’t take care their minorities. Even if the situation is what you have told. Even then how many such people India can absorb. What India will do with such people. What such people will do in India. They will come with a hope and better future and when not treated well or fed well, will start creating trouble as refugee Afghanis are doing in Pakistan. Out of millions you will find a successful Pakistani in India as Vina Mallik or Fate Alli Khan. They are appreciated because they are less in number. People see their success and not the efforts and treatment they might have got and compromises they might have made. Pakistan should find a solution and if they want they can learn the systems in India or other democratic countries and if it suites, implement it. Lastly a friendly suggestion : Religion should be only inside the mosques and houses and should be a personal choice and not enforced.
September 12, 2012 10:42 am
Hi Razdan, i dont know if you are an Indian. What Faiza is trying to show is what was shown in Satyameva Jayate.. wake up guys!! what she has written is a satire and not suggesting it.. we Indians have the guts to show our weaknesses on the national television .. how many of yours show that except Dawn
September 11, 2012 10:06 am
This is exactly what I ask my Indian friends, if India is the best then what they are doing in West?
September 11, 2012 10:07 am
what are you talking about ?I have no wish to call indian muslims to Pakistan... they should be loyal to india ! and Pakistani muslims, christians, hindus etc loyal to pakistan.
September 10, 2012 12:40 pm
I agree with the content. India is a secular democratic country with no affiliation to any religion. So anyone from Pakistan should have equal right to immigrate as refugee unless found against national interest. The persons should not be differentiated on base of his/her religion but differentiated on basis of the genuiness of the claim.
September 11, 2012 10:05 am
yeah 100% .
shamma parveen
September 10, 2012 12:57 pm
we are a secular country but we wont be able to tolerate mass migration as we too have limited resources. so kindly make your country a better place to live
September 11, 2012 10:03 am
i am amazed to see that writer is a Reporter at DAWN...that is a shame for the whole group.
September 11, 2012 4:52 pm
Bhaiyya, baap baap hota hai, beta beta hota hai, akhir ye tumhara pakistan nikla to hindustan mein se hi hai na. Baap se alag ho kar mil gaye chole, ab bajao chunchune. Ha ha ha
Mandar J
September 11, 2012 8:01 pm
Asif, you sounds like real educated one... and only one... what you said is true for India too... Indian politicians are worst in its class... but minorities in India are doing 100 times better than there in Pakistan...
September 11, 2012 8:01 pm
Please read from same sources what they write about Pak!!!
September 11, 2012 7:16 pm
LOL ... nice comparison of Veena and Faiza
Naresh Sharma
September 12, 2012 4:47 am
Not India jailed the cartoonist, That is Congress... And Dear Ali we will Teach a lesson to congress in Coming election .. Just Wait and Watch when Mr. Modi will the PM of India
September 11, 2012 5:00 pm
Jinnah was not responsible for division of India. It was Nehru and Patel. And no matter how bad Pakistan is, I for one would never like to migrate to India which is only a little better than us.
September 12, 2012 1:41 am
Faiza Mirza,take care of yourself....that should be top of your agenda!
September 12, 2012 1:40 am
September 11, 2012 8:42 pm
if there is anything wrong or there are problems with in the family, should be resolved within the family and look at moving into the neighbors house.. quite disappointing how the writer had humiliated the entire nation...seems like she/he comes from a very weak family back ground with low values...
September 12, 2012 10:52 am
Communal riots are not common and Dawn carried stories of a minister being jailed in India for the Gujarat riots of 2002.
September 12, 2012 11:31 am
High treason..writter must be charged for sedition...
September 11, 2012 9:45 pm
and you another Ostrich!
September 12, 2012 4:18 am
really like your commnets
September 11, 2012 3:17 pm
who said christian pakistani can not get citizenship in India or Muslim too but why should any Muslim from pakistan should seek Indian nationality,Their whole identitiy is based on their two nation theory that pakistani muslims and Indians are very diffrent in almost everything ( They are more close to "Arab") and definitely India in no way comparable to Arab culture. Christian on the other hand just chose to live in pakistan at the time of partition so if they want to move back to india and they are eligible they can apply.
September 12, 2012 11:24 am
thank you Usman.
September 12, 2012 7:28 am
Pakistani Women are the last hope for Pakistan, it seems. God give them enough resilience and strength to bring their country to light from darkness.
September 11, 2012 5:23 pm
thank you for your comments Zaheer, despite some problems India is moving.........and that is all we need to do for few decades at least...
September 12, 2012 11:36 am
that is the problem with Pakistan
September 12, 2012 11:37 am
and your name is DigVijay Singh ? :-)
September 10, 2012 9:29 am
Not too sure what is really stopping the writer from leaving. I think, though, she needs to do a better assessment on what India really is all about instead of basing her impressions on possibly the glamour that Bollywood reflects or the hype that the media creates. I have been to India many times and while it is surely better on in terms of security, it is just as corrupt, poverty is rampant where you see hundreds of people sleeping, eating and excreating on the streets, there are stories of honour killing, there are Hindu extremists who attack women when they dont approve of what they wear, etc etc. And I would love to see her research to qualify her statement that many Pakistanis are willing to migrate to Afghanistan. I am surprised that such a ridiculous blog has actually made it to print.
September 12, 2012 9:02 am
I have always wondered why Pakistan hounds all its past leaders who were democratically elected. Bhuttos, Nawaz Sheriff, Musharaf! Someting is wrong!
September 12, 2012 4:15 am
Nice article Lady.. to become famous .. I have been to INDIA 4-5 times .. I offer you to visit it once then rewrite your article... All the facts are true.. but Do mention/ realize that we are in STATE of WAR... Depressing articles are symbol of retreat... I did not find dead bodies on roads of KArachi/Lahore like in Mumbai/ Africa.. people who died of HUNGER and no one pick up that and burried that... I think to migrate is problem of your upper class it is NOT the issue of Middle / Lower middle class... Do keep in mind that most of Pakistanis belong to this class. If these words are offend then you also have offended 160 million hearts..
Salman Saifi
September 12, 2012 12:24 pm
very interesting. Im sure that someone must have update PM Sing about this letter by now. Dawn enjoys a large readership from across the border.
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 6:15 am
ms mirza you have joined a really elite group!
September 11, 2012 5:22 pm
Very insightful
September 11, 2012 9:52 pm
Take Faiza and some Hindus who wanna migrate, Respectable muslims will either live in Pakistan or rule India as they did for 1000 years!!
September 11, 2012 1:42 pm
Really, thats how you suggest we solve the problem! seek assylum, first you shed blood to break free from India and now you seek refuge in the same! I pitty you!
Nitha GetHigh :-)
September 10, 2012 9:31 am
Sadly, Mr. Singh is unavailable to answer this plea as he is battling (in order of importance) - a fiercely dedicated opposition, petulant and uncooperative allies, debased colleagues mired in corruption so deep their hands stink even after washing, and world-wide doubts over his influence as the current holder of the country's most important office. In this scenario, I doubt whether anyone will raise an eyebrow if you cross the border at a porous point somewhere, stay a few years in a large city of your choosing, get used to the neighbours and vice-versa, apply for a ration card after bribing the appropriate official and get your passport (which process has become quite streamlined and corruption-free recently) soon after. Best of Luck!
September 12, 2012 11:48 am
Its unfortunate that the writer does not have an idea of the miseries suffered by people in India particularly minorities of India. Indian government could protect Babri mosque, couldn't protect muslims in Ahmadabad and now they came to rescue people in Pakistan. If that is the case then the whole muslim community and particularly of Ahmadabad have the right to seek asylum anywhere in the world. The writers view is one sided and devoid of background realities.
September 12, 2012 11:40 am
Its tough to accept criticism, Whatever this girl Fiza has written is a honest 3rd party opinion, a person living in Pakistan will not agree with her, however if the same person goes to UK or US and then as a neutral person judge Pakistan and India then this will be the opinion.
September 11, 2012 4:04 pm
She was marked as a Shia. Now you have more excuses to do her in
September 11, 2012 5:37 pm
I can see logic in the arguments for the minorities but to say "Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality." is outright an irresponsible argument devoid of any facts. I must ask the writer what basis does she have to say something like this on behalf of 180 million people. It is just fine to criticize but criticism must come with responsibility and facts which I see missing for some of the arguments.
September 11, 2012 5:17 pm
let me rephrase your words.....Terrorism and bad governance DO see religion and nationality... and We are sorry for injustice being done to the fellow Indians on whatever basis.
September 10, 2012 9:07 pm
Going by the comments I think most folks here do not understand satire or dark satire for that matter. The author has in one stroke exposed the duplicity of the Indian State which although calls itself secular but grants immigration/residential rights based on religion at the same time the state of minorities in Pakistan. If only the readers could see the satire and not just focus on the literal meaning.
September 11, 2012 5:29 pm
Is there a PM in pakistan?
Al Himmler
September 13, 2012 4:08 am
I do not understand your point. Why would these people want asylum in India?
Md Imran
September 10, 2012 1:08 pm
50000 illegal "Indians" in Karachi ? Why ? Did they volunteer to be target practice for the assasins ? Or did they decide to ditch a 2 trillion $ and growing economic powerhouse for a non-existent economy that goes from door to door looking for donor ? It is either that, or you get your figures from Zaid Hamid school of statistics !
Sagar Singh
September 11, 2012 9:38 pm
wondering if you been to india, pakistanis in South Africa also speak poorly of their country of birth, safety, power & opportunities simply don't exist.
September 12, 2012 12:22 pm
Thank god.
September 11, 2012 7:58 pm
hahahahha actually, good idea !! please call your people back !! thanks
September 11, 2012 7:59 pm
Really Have you ever heard about a writer named JAWED NAQVI? He write for this news paper. Lives in India.
September 12, 2012 11:06 am
India has a Hindu Brahmin President, a Muslim Vice President, a Sikh Prime Minister, a powerful Christian lady as UPA Chairperson, a Harijan Speaker of the Lok Sabha and numerous leaders of various religions, castes,communities and cultures. We have our riots, our scams and whatnot. But we are a nation proud of our thriving democracy no matter be there problems. Do not compare Pakistan to India or the other way around. The Pakistan of today is not what Mr. Mohammed Ali Jinnah envisioned. He had great hopes for his country and would be saddened at the present state of affairs..
September 11, 2012 5:45 pm
"I take a severe offence when some ignorant westerner even remotely equate Pakistan with India and I make an immediate effort to correct him/her." Thank you very much, appreciated. "I am proud to be a Pakistani. All the great nations have gone through tough times in their history and Pakistan is no different." rephrasing...."I am......history, but Pakistan is not a great nation
September 12, 2012 12:27 am
EXCUSE ME! I would never want to move to India, solely for the petty reasons of them being too bloody intrusive in every damn thing you do and of course, I can't stand the Hindi accent - NOPE just cannot stand it!
September 11, 2012 9:42 pm
You have got some guts, and I feel the real intentions of this letter of yours is to jolt people of your country and make them realize about the situation in your country. Hope you succeed and situation gets better in your nation. Here in India, there was once a time when used to feel strongly about the one nation theory but past 2 decades have changed a lot and now we thank God and Jinnah for Pakistan, not that we are sadist but now we have understood about the huge gap between the values, education and attitude of the people in these two countries, we are no more same and will never be! No offenses meant here!
September 11, 2012 7:39 pm
This is not about literally moving the whole Pakistan to India. Do you even think it is possible? The writer is trying to convey a point and most of us taken it in literal terms, shame on us for being intellectually challenged.
September 11, 2012 5:39 pm
What an Article ......Hats off to you "MS. WRITER " But one thing i felt wrong "India is not for Hindu only" Please change your perception "INDIA IS FOR ALL" Now a days scenario has been changed we never think who is muslim & who is christian thats why we proud to be an INDIAN
p kumar
September 10, 2012 8:11 pm
like pakistan,we had the option to be a religious country rather than a secular country.religious countries have no right to point fingers at partly secular countries
September 10, 2012 12:55 pm
That is exactly what happens when a non representative person becomes the voice or atleast try to become the voice of the nation. You must go to India, it is a great and progressing country. But the issues you highlighted are the same there ! Every country has some problems ! but they do not have a senseless media bringing news out of proportion or people like the writer herself you get pissed over injustice done to Rimsha, Ajay, Ramiz ahmedi but never raise voice over humans/muslims dying in drone attacks, or Kashmiris or palistinians or bosnians etc. That to me is "wanna be liberals" (nothing personal). Feel empathy for both sides. Then only you'll be a true liberal !!!
September 10, 2012 8:12 pm
Pack your bags soon otherwise, the trouble you invited could be anytime at your doors!
September 11, 2012 5:27 pm
Yes Gujrat is a shame which will live in infamy. But the courts are sentencing the perpetrators without FEAR or FAVOR. Look at how LONG it took that poor christian girl to get bail on th echarge of burning the Quran, even when it was found out that the local mullah had done this.
September 11, 2012 6:29 pm
Blogger belongs to a class that discusses politics in the cozy drawing room while sipping fine tea from finest china.Even if it is a satire, it is in a poor taste.If she had written a strong editorial blaming the political honchos of present government, it would have been better than the gripes she enumerated. She won't do it because the Daily she works for has never identified the target killers in the very city where she lives in , never held incompetant rulers for poor governance. The blog was meant to be an exercise in self promotion. Well,it worked, she found admireres across the border.
September 11, 2012 5:43 pm
I thought journalists are generally optimists and with full of hope. However this writer certainly seems to have lost it completely. Many nations in the world have gone through very rough times in the history and have risen again, so is Pakistan, going through turbulent times at the moment but the hope is still there since there are so many good people out there in the country who are still doing excellent work, people just need to be stay put and keep working hard towards a better Pakistan rather than looking for the escape routes this writer is so incorrectly reporting for "most of Pakistanis".
Wali Khan
September 11, 2012 6:00 pm
Thats the problem with us Pakis. We are a shameless lot – in a country that has no water, no electricity, (your quote above) Very interesting, now you relegate us to 'Pakis', I thought we were called Pakistanis.Where did you pick up this slang ? I guess Green backs or Pound Sterling speaking here. Being ex-citizen, you consider yourself 'Brown Sahib' or simple 'Brownie" ' ?
September 11, 2012 5:30 pm
Its shocking, particularly if the situation in pakistan is that bad. It seems there are two extreme world's in pakistan. One which lives in luxury oblivious to rapid deterioration and the other which seems to think it is heading in the right path by embrazing militancy. For a keen observer since 1980 the % of population which is in the later category has increased manifold. I dread pakistan military exploiting the situation again in afghanistan as it is did after US left in 1980.
September 11, 2012 7:48 am
Faiza needs to understand that Dr Singh is PM of India, and not Pakistan. The only reason for accommodating Pakistani Hindus is because the partition envisaged Hindus migrating to India and have nowhere else to go. It always makes me wonder that Dawn reporters think Jinnah is above blame for the miseries of Pakistan but ignore his role in the partition of India.
September 10, 2012 1:57 pm
The authoress is a way bit too hard on Pakistan. Agreed this country has been plundered dry by Civilian and Military rulers but things are not too rosy on our Eastern border either. Thousands of Indians seek asylum in West every year too and they work literally as slaves in the Gulf Sheikhdoms. And when have Pakistanis sought refuge in that wasteland of a country, Afghanistan?
September 11, 2012 6:55 pm
What have you done for your country lately or ever? There is a famous quote from Kennedy that goes like this, "ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country". Have you ever asked yourself?
G. Din
September 10, 2012 12:51 pm
Quite candid!
September 11, 2012 6:29 pm
WoW - After two sentence and a word, you still sound absurd
Habib Diwab
September 11, 2012 2:08 pm
Ask the Muslims of Gujrat, Indian. This lady is utter disgrace.
September 11, 2012 6:20 pm
Why dont you get over Mumbai? Time to move on dont you think?
September 11, 2012 9:46 pm
seems they have loads of time, thought India was booming and ppl would have better things to do then reading other's mind....
dr vimal raina
September 12, 2012 6:32 am
Indians got to USA and UK for MORE money and degrees of their choice. Indians go there to own property and contribute positively to their society and bring back what they learn along with money back to India. Ms. Mirza like many other Pakistanis find the earth beneath their feet getting 'scorched'. So when you have hot burning coal beneath your feet you jump and want to jump to a cooler ground. In your case the cooler ground is not MUSLIM UMMAH like Iran, Afghanistan and nor you all weather friend China. The only hope, that all of you know in your heart of hearts is India. Accept it Micheal Jackson Khan. Maybe this might give you a US visa.
September 11, 2012 9:20 pm
If you're a paki then please migrate to India asap!!
September 10, 2012 8:07 pm
Ms.pinky, do you also have any idea on many pandit families who once lived the valley and their whereabouts???
September 10, 2012 9:09 pm
I do not agree with this at all. If you ask any Muslim in India (which have a population greater than Pakistan), they love their country. The writer has said what is true for many Pakistanis that fear to even leave their house. The country has failed in every aspect. I am ashamed to say so as a Pakistani.
September 11, 2012 5:54 am
Umer, If one statement from a misguided Indian represents the whole Indian community, then, going by the same logic, is every Pakistani a kasab (notorious for Mumbai attacks) ?
September 10, 2012 3:17 pm
Name me any who want to to migrate to Pakistan, I will pay for their tickets
September 10, 2012 3:19 pm
Faiza Mirza Ji, There are 50 Muslim Countries and the number of Christian Countries is even greater. India should absorb the Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists. The Pakistani Muslims can immigrate to the Fifty Muslim Countries and the Christian to the Christian Countries. Cheers
September 11, 2012 7:03 am
Since Dawn never publish my lines I would just have to say: I AGREE!!
September 10, 2012 3:25 pm
Its unfortunate that most of the 'readers' have failed to see the underlying anguish and despair which the author has tried to project. Such reaction to what she has written actually strengthens her argument....That the way things are, future doesn't augur well for the Pakistan...
September 10, 2012 3:25 pm
And also read about selective migration of richer Muslims to Pakistan during partition and poorer ones left behind. These were the ones whos interest were most needed to be safeguarded :)... not the Nawabs and Jamidars which eventually got space/opportunity to continue living as they did during British occupation
a jindaal
September 11, 2012 2:01 pm
there is a term 6th column. those who are stone hearted and birdbrain ..they no understand human desires and kill their own country and don't let other who want to survive to escape out. You earned that title.
September 11, 2012 6:36 am
So where are they living now? dreamland?? I am a hindu and even I can't buy property in lot of localities because of my food habits. So whats the big fuss. And stop lying
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 3:27 pm
Gillani said `Why Don`t You Leave Then?` Because it is not as easy for them to obtain foreign nationality?
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 6:34 am
RK Singh
September 11, 2012 6:32 am
@ Faiza Mirza Excellant essay. I can feel your pain. But the issue here is the treatment of Hindus in Pakistan. Yes I agree that all others are treated badly in Pakistan. But tell me one incident of the shameful kind of persecution being imposed on Hindus- being used on other minorities. Like kidnapping and converting the women. I never heard of any Shia, Christian or Ahmedi women being converted forcibly and married off to some Jihadi. If you disagree, pl furnish me the details. As a women you should appreciate my concern. What do you think is the feelings of the Hindu women who are converted in such a manner? I think they would prefer death. I think this is the big issue. If any of the Muslim women is even spoken to- let alone kidnapped, there would be a major flare up of violence. i read in Dawn itself- few months back. A Hindu boy be-friends a Muslim dancer girl. Radicals take revenge by killing three Hindu doctors who are not even related to this boy. I am sure Muslims are not facing this extreme persecution. Also partition decided that Muslims have a home in Pakistan. We should not think beyond this. Not fair for even Muslims to ask for asylum here. India is already very densely populated country- more so than Pakistan. Let us leave it at that. I feel all the Hindus of Pakistan needs to migrate to India and close the chapter once for all. Hindu religion/people has faced enough humiliation in Pakistan already.
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 6:27 am
interestingMr Hasan, and now that you have told us all that ails india and Pakistan as well, does bangladesh have any issues that makes you love Pakistan more ;-))
September 11, 2012 6:26 am
Hi Ms. Mirza One requires some guts to say what you have said. I am with you and completely understand you as I feel the same disappointment/ desperation inside me when innocent non-Muslim Pakistani are treated with inhuman behaviour by us Muslims in our homeland Pakistan . I know many of us would take you and your casual cum sarcastic mode of communication as unpatriotic and plain betrayal to the country but I can truly sense the injured sole of a Honest Pakistani who is standing up to the Extremist. Well done and keep writing and remember you are not alone. We are here with you. Regards Shehrum Singapore
September 11, 2012 6:23 am
Dear Faiza, I am regularly follower of your article. What I can say is only can pray for your safety in a country like Pakistan. In Pakistan so many Faizas need to fight against the current difficulties in your country. Really appreciate your guts for writing article like this and also thanks to dawn for publishing such an article. If you come to India we will welcome with both hands. God bless you..
EK tha tiger
September 11, 2012 8:19 am
If the writer thinks some one will buy her weakness to change and build stronger society.... I dont think so. Mr Singh has other problems to sort. And stop whining either live with what you have or start making a difference. Grow Up
September 10, 2012 3:32 pm
Dear Faiza , Its a wonderful article, What Pakistanis need is not a green card to india, we all know the condition of Pakistan when it comes to treating minorities,there are different point of views to that , and migration to india is not the solution, because in our country we doesn't have a gold medal in treating the minorities. So whats the difference is the people in majority are they moderate. Im not a Pakistan expert, but what needs to be done immediately get all the kids and school goers and make them know, and teach them good men don't hate, and fight for justice for everyone, you must work on moderating the terms "Kafir" 'Jihad' and other ones like Pakistan was made only for followers of one religion. People like you are the forefront of change, but article is written little despair , looks for the easy solution , which is not good for a nation.
September 11, 2012 9:20 am
Dear Arif no need to see his comments(really did not see it). Exceptions are everywhere. Like Faiza and NFP are exception in Pakistan.
Khalid Pathan
September 11, 2012 9:21 am
Sad but a true picture of what is happening in Pakistan. It's a pity that the lawlessness and callous response from the law enforcing agencies, the legislators, the judiciary, the entire govt is getting from bad to worse with no respite in sight. One has to try to understand the helplessness, pain and agony of a sensitive person like Faiza and salute to her courage for writing what is rather overdue, however, there is no dearth of such bigoted minds who will label her an agent of foreign powers.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 2:29 pm
"There is no problem so big or so complicated that it cannot be run away from." CHARLIE BROWN
September 10, 2012 3:34 pm
The comments at this end of this article are testament to the blindfolds most Pakistanis seek to put on themselfs. This is a very courageous article. Most pakistanis will never admit the truth we all know is in it. The Pakistani state has failed, everyone except pakistanis know it. Not only do you have to be a muslim but a particular kind of muslim and that too will vary depending on who you ask. A state that can't protect its most vulnerable, a state that puts an 11 year old mentally retarded little girl in jail for blasphemy.........
Rajeev Nidumolu
September 11, 2012 2:05 pm
I sincerely believe time has come for India to give Indian citizenship to Pakistani intelligentsia , scientists ,qualified professionals, persecuted minorities like Shia and Ahmedis. They should affirm their belief in secularism in polity prior to granting Indian citizenship. India already has provision for dual citizenship.
September 11, 2012 3:54 pm
Faisal, that guy Shankar's opinion doesnt represent all of India's opinion. I am an indian and I disagree with him - he is frustrated. We value the culture and language and legacy shared commonly between India and Pakistan. If we change our attitude, everything will change. India and Pakistan can be friends, we can open boundaries and share our lands and its security - scary for some... difficult step... but not impossible. It has happened in the past and it can happen in future. We were one for thousands of years, we have been divided for only a few decades... Religion is meant to be in tune with God... not for discriminating or hating mankind.
September 11, 2012 6:15 am
Faiza, "All that glitters is not gold"....... I personally know the families of victims of terrorism in Pakistan and I can confidently say that NONE OF THEM HAS EVER THOUGHT OF getting asylum in India... I always found you bold writer, but it's sad to read to current one.
September 11, 2012 8:51 am
u r seriously delusional dude.
September 11, 2012 1:04 pm
@Umair Aziz: Minorities are safe in your country. Get your facts correct. Every day Hindu girls are being abducted and raped by Muslim thugs and you call that safety? As regards the Gujrat riots, try to understand the other side too. The riots were triggered by Godhra incident in which 87 Hindu pilgrims were brutally brunt alive by a Muslim mob. Tell me what would be your reaction if the same thing had happened in Pakistan and a Hindu mob had burnt alive peaceful Muslim pilgrims. I am sure you folks would have obliterated entire Hindu community. In Gujarat luckily that did not happen. That is India. India is secular because of tolerent "Kafir" majority. The day that majority turns into a minority India will be Pakistan.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 3:36 pm
"... secular but not in the not in true sense." How can they be secular if they expect the people of India to be humble and submissive?
September 11, 2012 9:49 pm
Seems like half of you have missed the point. This open letter is a commentary on the state of Pakistan's affairs. You blame this girl for being unpatriotic, but if you ever bothered reading the entire article, you may have noticed where she says... "The words struck me and for the first time in my life, made me realise that we all have failed Jinnah and the Pakistan he envisioned. Like many others before and after me, I am running for safer pastures where my life will be valued and respected, leaving my fellow countrymen behind to fight with the demons that dictate the order of the day in Pakistan, my home." Her home, her countrymen, how we have all failed Jinnah... And I am sure we can agree on the fact that what we have today is the antithesis of Jinnah's Pakistan. I must applaud the writer for her wit and sarcasm. Only if the audience could get it. But if we ever could get it, then she wouldn't have the need to write this article. How ironic.
September 11, 2012 9:32 am
It think the fact that the writer has a voice and can view such opinion in a country like Pakistan with all its issues, says a lot. Doesn't it.
September 10, 2012 2:19 pm
let us hope that the politicians read and act to your article. It is very brave of you to write such an open letter. Strength is in the young generation in pakistan and India. Let us use that strength to make our countries a peaceful and secular countries. Running away from problem will brand you a coward. We should never be afraid of dying for a good cause. Let us die for a good cause. I hope to see Pakistan/India as a brotherly country and not as enemies. We the young generation can do that. Wish you strength courage and tenacity to achieve your goal.
Krishna Bhagawan (@KrishnaBhagawan)
September 10, 2012 2:21 pm
In spite of that the Indian Muslims are not queuing up for pakistani citizenship.
Pavas Ambashta
September 10, 2012 2:21 pm
Bro,from where did you get the news that almost 50000 Indians are living in Karachi illegaly? I am genuinely asking because I could not find anything relevant even on Google!! If you have any credible source then please reply otherwise refrain yourself from making such false claims on discussion forum of a reputed news paper..
September 10, 2012 2:21 pm
Well, after reading so many comments, I do believe our Indian friends are not emotional but are too practical. They know much better than us the situation in their country. I live in London where I could see how miserably Indians and Pakistanis are living their lives. To me, Faiza has become disappointed with the corrupt and illiterate so called democracy leaders who have been authorised to make critical decisions on our Country's policies. I still believe that Pakistan has got more resources per person when compared to India. It is the system which is damaging our country and forcing our talented fellows to leave the country. This is what these bastards want. They very well know that improving the education sector and giving job opportunities to literate people will change the society's way of thinking and this will close there business. Raising a question for PM Manmohan Singh is bit surprise to me. There are no doubts that India is well ahead of Pakistan in all fields of technology but believe me Faiza, its not something you are thinking that they are too liberal. You are strongly mistaken dear. Insha Allah, there will be change in Pakistan soon. You are the change Faiza. You are the Change. And this will not stop anyway now until we get our country back from these traitors.
Feroze Khan Khattak
September 10, 2012 2:25 pm
MS. Mirza - Get over your gripe, go to Indian Consulate and apply for an immigrant visa.See if you get one. If you do, get on the first flight to land of "enchantment ", India .Some of us are willing to stay back and endure all the misfortunes you eloquently described.To each his /her own. Good luck & happy voyage.
Cyrus Howell
September 10, 2012 2:27 pm
Bangladeshis have the right to over populate the world. That is their basic human right - to have as many children as they can possibly have. There is no more room at the Inn. Muslims and Hindus are creating their own Hell on Earth, and it is about time the West ignored South Asian problems The things that you do God doesn't want to see.. This is not about Islam - this is about who gets the last drink of water.
Maliha Hussain
September 11, 2012 12:00 pm
Oh wow! Seems like Pakistan bashing is the most "IN" thing these days. Shame on you Faiza Mirza, Can't believe you are a Reporter of Dawn but then all those who don't have anything positive and constructive to offer will always depend on extreme negativity and sensationalism. Go to India and write crap like this there and see if the Editor will read it beyond a few lines before throwing it in the waste paper basket. You are leaving Pakistan, I would say "good riddance............."
September 11, 2012 3:35 pm
hahaha... thats how you qualify for indian citizenship... Neeta either you have a good sense of humor, or you are too young to be taken seriously. Keep watching Indian cricket or hockey or whatever it is
Raoul Ciao
September 11, 2012 6:30 am
basically you help her point - dissenting liberals are to be hounded out of pakistan due to seen in your post, dear friend. Pity you stand for exactly the fears she raises.
September 11, 2012 9:17 am
Dear Writer, Whilst i agree with the circumstances , its not Indias responsibility to give asylum to us. We have to make a change and if there is problem in our very house where we live , doesnt mean that we we pack up and move to neighbours next door , let it be india or any other country . I support the comments by " Eik tha tiger " aik Pakistani
September 10, 2012 2:31 pm
Response to Faiza Mirza from Government of Pakistan. Dear Faiza, you are welcome to leave pakistan and settle anywhere else in the world. That will leave us with one less person to worry about.
September 10, 2012 2:36 pm
My family immigrated to Canada in late 2009. not a day has gone by where i want to come so bad, it hurts. no pakistani living abroad is happy. there may be security and various other facilities but they are still nto content because its not home. you go to any corner of the world, you will still be a pakistani. if every one's mindset becomes like yours, honestly, one day there will be no difference in pakistan and afghanistan. and i agree with another reader, you still enjoy mroe freedom in pakistan than in india. so you might as well stay here and atleast TRY to make a change instead of complaining about it.
Nadir K
September 10, 2012 2:37 pm
MS. Mirza , Like millions others, I am enduring the grind of daily life, what keeps me going is that Pakistan is not a failed state but had failed leadership especially the present one. If I give up, I would be betraying all those who gave up everything to create a homeland, we call Pakistan. If you prefer to cross the border permanently, please go ahead and don't look back.
Sayeed Altaf Hussein
September 11, 2012 3:37 pm
Sorry Mate. Come and see the street of Karachi and Lahore and you want find people sleeping on the street next to sewage but you will find them on the streets of Kolkata and Mumbai, So much for your health and Education etc. The current issues in Pakistan are not created by Pakistan but are the results of supporting wrong foreign policies and following the inept foreign powers. God willing, Pakistan will come out of this.
September 11, 2012 8:26 am
Once you attempt legislation upon religious grounds, you open the way for every kind of intolerance and religious persecution.
September 11, 2012 8:26 am
your comment has little relevance to the actual topic.. guess you need to be in the same page... although i would like to answer your question... they leave india for even BETTER life and MONEY... its not like they can't earn that in india, however its personal choice, greed and desire to have more than what you have.. quite natural and every one of us would think the same... its not like they were forced to leave the country by their fellow citizens who were trying to gun them down.. got the point Nadeem ???
September 10, 2012 2:40 pm
Shakeel, you are brainwashed from 60 years text taught in schools. To prove a point, how are the conditions in Pakistan before you compare with occupied Kashmir or pre-partition India for that matter?
September 10, 2012 2:45 pm
All those belong to wealthy industrialist, landowner, and corrupt political or military elite will never complaint for once that there's anything wrong in this country. Please ask those millions of poor/lower middle class how they are dealing with unemployement, high inflation, zero security and violence. The answer will remarkably be different
September 10, 2012 2:41 pm
"Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality." When you say "many"... you actually mean a "handful". Also, India isn't exactly a safe haven for minorities either.
September 11, 2012 9:04 am
Yes Laeeq many Ahmadis moved to West and we know why but still if you ask these Ahmadis that if choice is given them to pick India or Pakistan then they will pick Pakistan as homeland. We're bad to them but they are still proud and loyal Pakistanis.
H AHmed
September 10, 2012 2:42 pm
True....also there are many other "interesting" news from secular India in Times of india (
Abdullah Hussain
September 10, 2012 2:42 pm
Shameful, disgraceful & insulting letter. This is to defame Pakistan. Since its creation Pakistan has been a safe heaven for all minorities. In the past I have extensively traveled to all parts of Sindh & Balochistan. I personally witnessed the most harmonious life being enjoyed by the Hindu community especially in Pannu Akil, Shikarpur, Jacobabad, Ghotki and other cities of Sindh. In Balochistan the Hazara & other Shia communities were never differentiated from the main stream Sunni Muslims. Why we never saw Hindus attempting to migrate to India before or why there were no killings of the Shia Muslims as we see today. I honestly think the answer was very rightly given by Mr. Rehman Malik “A conspiracy is being hatched by local & international players to defame Pakistan ” If any one wishes to ask for asylum or wishes to migrate to another country then what is the problem. As for the claim that Hindu girls are being kidnapped & forced to become Muslims, may I ask what benefit it would bring to 18 million peoples of Pakistan. What actually is happening is LOVE affairs between Muslim boys & Hindu girls leading to marriage. Can someone say why there is no hue & cry about Hindu girls marrying Muslim boys in India. Amer Khan married to Hindu girl, Shahrukh Khan married to Hindu girl, Saif Ali Khan married Hindu girl before & about to marry a second Hindu girl again. There may be thousands of Hindu girls marrying Muslims & then converting to Islam in India, no one talks anything about that. Only events happening in Pakistan brings heart burnt. Point to ponder, please.
September 11, 2012 3:38 pm
It did happen irrespective of when, how etc
September 10, 2012 2:45 pm
rofl.. zaid hamid school of statistics... mate you the one.
H AHmed
September 10, 2012 2:45 pm
Without any second thought, I deplore terrorism in any form. However, keeping in view the tales of Babri Masjid, Ahmedbad (Modi is still the CM), situation of Christians in Oddisa, operation in Golden temple, I am really surprised someone can write an article like this.
September 10, 2012 2:45 pm
The author does not know real India. There is still utter poverty for millions that is worsed than in Pakistan. Seeing her picture, I see a priviledged person by birth who has attained high education and a living standard that is not commonly enjoyed by all in Pakistan. Most common Pakistanis knowing what they have ivested in Pakistan would never go for any thing in India. Only the elites would do such a trade because they are all opportunists and follow the money.
September 10, 2012 2:46 pm
Dear Ali, The case of Indian Cartoonist and the Professor in Bengal jailed for a week and then released due to public pressure is a one off or exception rather than the rule. It does NOT happen in India. It is a rare occurance. Never the less it is shameful. The Chief Minister, Mamta Bannerjee, will be defeated in the next election. People did not know her when they elected her against the communist government in Bengal.
September 11, 2012 9:01 am
Yes they bought a flat in India but not where they wanted. This is not lie just google it yourself. But who cares about them, I know being a Pakistani, I would die in Pakistan. God bless India but for us Pakistan is the best!
September 10, 2012 2:48 pm
Writer is showing one sided affair of 3rd world country, and believe me Mr. Mirza, none of the people you discussed want to leave Pakistan for India. As a matter of fact you can find millions in India who want to leave India for Pakistan or other neighboring countries, be it Muslims of Kashmir, Christians of Kerala, whatever happened with you we are all sorry for that, but it happens in India as well, and in all such countries. So stop hating the country and start hating the crime.
September 10, 2012 2:49 pm
I respectfully disagree with the contents of this article. The founders of both countries had envisaged two secular , multi-ethnic, multi-religious states living in peace side by side--states where hindus will cease to be hindus and muslims to be muslims not in the religious sense but in matters of the state and society. Pakistani hindus are as much true citizens of pakistan as are Indian muslims of India. India cannot be a safe haven for all disgruntled people in Pakistan be they hindus, shias, ahmadis or christians. The persecution of and discrimination against minorities is not a phenomenon unique to Pakistan. The answers have to be from inside the nation itself, through framing of laws and thier implementation and the will of the so called leaders of the nation. There are limits to the number of pakistani citizens we can accept, whatever their faiths may be.
September 11, 2012 11:50 am
Dear Faiza: Um. A piece of advice to you. They say the grass is greener on the other side. So also is the case in Hindustan. Not everything is prettier there in India. Life can be a hell to lots of people in India-me too. Anyway, You sound like Veena Malik of Dawn reporter tribe. You are Bold and deserve a hearty round of applause.
September 10, 2012 2:50 pm
Positive words create good will..I hope people on this board learn some lesson. Thank you for your kind words!
Raghu S Johar
September 11, 2012 3:29 pm
You do not consider Qadian as Muslim and for that reason you are ready to kill them. Is it fair or as per teachings of Islam? In India Sanatni Hindu worship idols, Arya Samaji Hindu is totally against idol worship, Jaini Hindu does not believe in God. If any body ever heard that any Sanatni, Arya Samaji or Jain killed each other. They live peacefully since generations. Then why not Muslims believing in any sect can live peacefully? This shows intolerance and extremism in Islam which otherwise is a beautiful religion.
September 10, 2012 2:51 pm
The author belongs to a community which is more loyal to the neighours of pakistan than pakistan itself, at the time when our country is going through though times, and when every community is suffering, she has proved it again.
September 10, 2012 2:54 pm
Feroz, You are one TRUE INDIAN. Though I moved to USA in 1967; I know India has good values and traditions. I left not to earn a living but was young and wanted to see the world. I came and stayed and never regretted. At the same time I am proud of my heritage. My HATS OFF to you , my friend. May THE GOOD LORD BLESS YOU. Devendra
September 10, 2012 3:00 pm
I wish there is a respect counter for the blog authors, where we can click and add to the authenticity of the article. I think, this article if full of lies and people should be able to vote on articles.
alien brahmin
September 11, 2012 8:52 am
I would love this lady to live in india for her honest and unbiased views . its strange she didnt mentioned bhuttos and musharrafs who taken assylem in UK rather facing the judiciary in a nation they ruled .
September 10, 2012 3:02 pm
..and how do you propose they do that? by keeping electing corrupt politicians and intolerant mullahs?
September 10, 2012 3:03 pm
I live in Saudi and I know how other minorities including Muslims are surviving in India. No doubt we have lot of problems, but never thought to be Indian? I would prefer better to die as Pakistani and for Pakistan.
Bairam Khan
September 10, 2012 3:03 pm
Faiza, please move to india. you're already writing as an indian.
September 11, 2012 8:46 am
me too
September 10, 2012 3:04 pm
Ms Faiza, Yes india would be amazing to live in, if life were a bollywood movie. I am an indian muslim living in Toronto Canada. We have thousands of muslims leaving india on a month to month basis. Its because they are discriminated against and live a very poor life like wise with other minorities of india. The hate for muslims in india is evident through all the norms. One has to be delusional to ignore that. I know you and many see india in a good light because of the bollywood muslim influence, but hunny not all is that way. I hope u go to india and get owned by the hindus there, only then will u come to realize. Its pakistanis like you who first created problems with indians (mohajirs) who moved here, now you want to move there.
September 10, 2012 3:04 pm
Umar Hussain, India is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. However, it is a functional democracy and the government protects minorities and makes sure they are given equal rights and are protected. It is NOT the government policy to oppress the minorities like in Pakistan. There are no hate books in the Indian schools. Yes, there are insurgents, violent ones in India. Yes, there are corrupt politicians in India. Yes, there is injustice in India but people have a genuine recourse to remedy through a honest and fearless judiciary. Yes, jails are full of corrupt politicians of high ranks. But India also has had so far FOUR MUSLIM CHIEF JUSTICES OF SUPREME COURT OF INDIA, TWO MUSLIM PRESIDENTS AND THE CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT OF INDIA. INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE IN HIGH PLACES IN EVERY WALK OF LIFE IN INDIA. AND WHY NOT. THEY ARE NO LESS INDIAN. But you are missing the point. INDIA IS HEAVEN COMPARED TO PAKISTAN ANY DAY.
September 11, 2012 11:06 am
Please do so.....Don't you think Indian Muslim should write a letter to Pak PM??? LOL
September 10, 2012 3:10 pm
let her publish this article in any urdu daily and lets see the reaction.. guess you might have to eat your words later. :)
September 11, 2012 11:02 am
Wow they way you have ridicule our nation is just wondering how you come with the following words,..."Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality." This is preposterous, I understand you are angry but this is no way to insult the rest of the nation living in this country, we have no desires of what so ever you say. We are born in this country and will die in this country, we have issues, very big & scary issues but we will sort it. But keep your burning wishes to yourself. Don't give wrong impression
September 10, 2012 3:13 pm
The author has written a very meaningful letter favouring Pakistanis in general and letting the Indian PM know that its not the Hindus only that are suffering in Pakistan.... situation in Pakistan is terrible at a point that it does not discriminate when it comes to committing crime against humanity and killing the innocents. Her letter also is meaningful in the sense of letting so-called secular India know the real definition of a secular country. Why would India speak about Hindus only if India is a secular country? Author needs to know that the readers in Pakistan can always twist the meanings so she should review her writing style and writer the articles in more direct speech than in meaningful manner. I dont know if how Mr. Singh is going look at it but one can tell that our fellow Pakistani citizens are taking this article into a totally wrong direction.
September 11, 2012 9:43 am
A very good sarcastic way to express whats going on in pakistan at this point of time,and for some its intellectually above their level who they think that she really wants to migrate to India or some where else. . .well done Faiza. its kind of a slap on the face of these so called democratic looters.
September 11, 2012 9:43 am
Pinki Just give an option to migarte Indian minority to Pakistan and Pakistan Minorities to India.You ll see the difference.
Akhter Husain
September 11, 2012 7:16 am
I wish if you could understand the message Ms Faiza is trying to give.
September 11, 2012 7:15 am
Dear Abbasjee, your post gives the impression that India is still mired in the social injustices that the movies you mentioned depicted. For starters, have you ever/recently visited India. The movies you named and many more like it are the reason that society in India has nearly decimated horrible practices like caste based segregation. Ask any unbiased person in this world about a woman's freedom to choose in Indian and Pakistani society and you will have a resounding answer! You talk about injustices ingrained in Indian society in the 1960s but conveniently ignore the daily murder of non Muslims and folks "not Muslim enough" in today's day and age. Abbasjee, abhi bhi waqt hai, aap umar mein bade hain is liye mashwaraa toh nahin denaa chahta par iltajaa karta hoon kee uthiye, jaagiye aur apne Watan kee khaamiyaan pehchaaniye aur unhe Sudhaariye!
September 10, 2012 3:14 pm
Seriously Dawn....seriously? What are you trying to prove really?
September 10, 2012 3:15 pm
The author has written a very meaningful letter favouring Pakistanis in general and letting the Indian PM know that its not the Hindus only that are suffering in Pakistan.... situation in Pakistan is terrible at a point it does not discriminate when it comes to crime against humanity and killing innocent people. Her letter also is meaningful in the sense of letting so-called secular India know the real definition of a secular country. Why would India speak about Hindus only if India is a secular country? Author needs to know that the readers in Pakistan can always twist the meanings so she should review her writing style and writer the articles in more direct speech than in meaningful manner. I dont know if how Mr. Singh is going look at it but one can tell that our fellow Pakistani citizens are taking this article into a totally wrong direction.
September 11, 2012 4:51 pm
kudos Mr Siddique for this reason only we Indians always say that partition was a blunder and motivated by self interest of that time so called pseudo leaders, any indian could've never bothered about who is PM after independence it could have been even Mr Jinnah but that was not acceptable to some, please motivate your govt to merge back with India & all problems of India & Pakistan will be resolved for ever and together we will be able to handle these problem creators, please send your response to, every pakistani & Afgani is welcomed back in India.
September 12, 2012 8:44 am
and why do you say that?the article may be a bit exaggerated, but has a bitter core of truth....