How low can we go?

Published Jun 01, 2012 09:02pm

FOR years, others and I have been writing about Pakistan’s low standing in the community of nations.

Thanks to a recent BBC survey on how popular various countries are around the world, we now know just how low we have sunk.

According to this poll, conducted among 24,000 respondents around the world, Pakistan is joint last, together with Iran. One place above us is North Korea, and fourth from the bottom is Israel. This, then, is the company we are keeping in the eyes of the world.

Many will reply to these rankings with a defiant “so what?” So plenty. The reality — whatever the overheated fantasies of armchair warriors and studio supermen — is that Pakistan is a wretchedly poor, violent and increasingly isolated country.

In short, we need all the help we can get to dig ourselves out of the hole we are in. To this end, we constantly hold a begging bowl in one hand. However, we also hold a gun in the other: occasionally it points at others, and the rest of the time it is held to our own head.

As the BBC survey shows, the rest of the world is getting tired of our posturing. In Washington, there is a growing crescendo across the political spectrum demanding a reduction or a suspension in aid to Pakistan. Several American readers have written to me expressing outrage over Dr Shakil Afridi’s 33-year prison sentence over his role in tracking down Osama bin Laden.

The fact that he was not allowed any legal representation, and was sentenced by a junior civil servant and not a judge, further erodes Pakistan’s stand that due process was followed. Clearly this was a kangaroo trial, and nobody is fooled by the pretence that Dr Afridi was actually punished for helping extremists and not the CIA.

Another reason Pakistan is in such bad standing abroad is the extortionate stand we had taken in our negotiations over the rate we want to charge Nato to transport supplies to Afghanistan. While it is perfectly reasonable to expect compensation for the damage to our roads caused by this increased traffic, jacking up the cost from $250 to $5,000 per truck was, by any standard, highway robbery.

And it is not just this 20-fold rise that caused anger in Nato capitals: by holding up military traffic for over six months, Pakistan has forced Nato to spend much more on transport. A period of recession and budget cuts is not a good time to blackmail countries that are supposed to be our friends and allies.

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, our ambassador in Washington was Dr Maleeha Lodhi. When asked what Pakistan would demand in return for its help to the United States, she replied, in effect, that in a crisis you don’t “nickel and dime” a friend. This Americanism refers to the price gouging US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta recently accused Pakistan of.

$18bn in aid later, Americans see us as not only helping the Taliban, but also seeking to profit from the war in Afghanistan. Even friends of Pakistan such as John Kerry and Hillary Clinton are appalled by the hysterical level of anti-Americanism they see in our media, as well as in the actions and statements of supposedly responsible politicians and officials.

But Pakistan’s image abroad began taking a battering long before the recent deterioration in our relations with the US and Nato. From our support of Islamic extremism to our appalling treatment of women and minorities, the world has seen a country tearing itself apart in the name of religion. A. Q. Khan’s nuclear proliferation activities certainly did not help. Worse, we are widely viewed as the epicentre of Islamic militancy, training and motivating foreigners to commit mayhem in their own countries.

Our paranoid worldview has convinced vast numbers of Pakistanis that the rest of the world is out to get us. But what most foreigners would really like to happen is for Pakistan to just somehow vanish, together with all the headaches it is causing the world.

I might have missed Pakistani reactions to the BBC survey, but I don’t recall seeing any soul-searching over the rankings. Were they discussed in our interminable TV chat shows, or did our anchors just ignore these damning findings? If so, this shows our indifference to what others think of us.

But we ignore world opinion to our peril: as dangers — most of them of our own making — multiply, and our economy sinks further into a black hole, we desperately need more, not less, external help. Although our generals are the biggest hurdles in evolving a healthy relationship with the West, they are also the ones who are most addicted to US aid. Without modern American equipment and spare parts, they cannot mount a credible defence against the vast Indian war machine that they so fear.

As we are witnessing, our hostile attitude can cost us dear. Already reductions and restrictions are being written into US aid. And this is only the beginning. After Western forces have withdrawn from Afghanistan in 2014, we will have virtually no leverage in Washington. If Obama will not see Zardari now because of our stance over land routes, do we really think he will even pick up the phone to talk to a Pakistani president after 2014?

In all probability, our generals calculate that the US needs Pakistan to allow an orderly withdrawal of equipment and in the coming negotiations with the Taliban. Again, they might be overplaying their hand. Just as they thought they could force an apology from Obama over the Salala incident by blocking Nato supplies, they feel our cooperation is essential for Western forces to pull their heavy equipment out.

The reality is that such intransigence will cause unnecessary bitterness in Washington. We must remember that militarily and economically, we are minnows compared with the American behemoth. Indeed, I was appalled to read an article by a retired ambassador on this page recently in which he casually discussed the possibility of a nuclear exchange with the US.

This offhand comment tells us why we are at the bottom of the BBC’s popularity survey.

The writer is the author of Fatal Faultlines: Pakistan, Islam and the West

irfan.husain@gmail.com


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Comments (88) (Closed)


Pradeep
Jun 07, 2012 12:14am
The usual conspiracy theorist, with a twist...this one has the gift of the gab! LOL
ali
Jun 08, 2012 03:11pm
How dare you forget to mention the people who will kidnap you for ransom.
gfellow
Jun 01, 2012 10:16pm
Very sane observations as always by Mr. Irfan Hussain
BRR
Jun 01, 2012 10:31pm
The concern shown by the writer is echoed by very few other Pakistani journalists, but it does seem to make sense, and should be taken seriously by people. This is not the first warning bell, but people seem oblivious to the fact that things are not likely to get better without a serious rethink and reorientation.
aaa
Jun 01, 2012 11:20pm
Soul searching was not done. Let us think first when does one do soul searching? Soul searching is done after there has gone some time since fire got extinguished. If someones house is on fire one tries to find water first and i think that is what local people are doing they are trying to find water. As far as a poll is concerned, take a new poll and it will show somethingelse. And what percentage of population of Pakistan knows what a poll is. Get realistic people who cannot afford even paracet if they have cancer(true example) dont care. The indifference of a person whose house is on fire is because he is worried about getting water not what other think how i look when im trying to get hold of water.
NASAH (USA)
Jun 01, 2012 11:21pm
There is a distinct distinction in being the last on the list - ("budnaam bhi hoNgay tou keya naaam nu hogaa") - as well. If the Pakistani TV spin doctors take that list and read it the downside up -- they can claim Pakistan is actually at the top of the strategic depth. Great piece Irfan Husain!
Concerned
Jun 02, 2012 12:12am
Great article! Bravo!!. Everyone can pick himself/herself and move on and succeed. First thing to do is an honest introspection and you have done that.
Abbas
Jun 02, 2012 12:20am
well, now that Pakistan is confronting the US, we have enemies to the East, West, within and also abroad. With such major achievements of the Establishment our stock will only go further down.
Agha Ata
Jun 02, 2012 12:57am
"“. . .do we really think he will even pick up the phone to talk to a Pakistani president after 2014?" That is true, and what’s more . . . if our generals think they would still have American weapons or dollars from the USA they better think again. I don't think that that pipe line is going to be there any longer, after we have proved that we are not friends in need, indeed!
Haji Ashfaq
Jun 02, 2012 08:49am
It is a marvellous article - as usual of Irfan Bhai. We can come to one conclusion : to point out things like this and alike is like "Bhens ke samne been bajana".
Neptune Srimal
Jun 02, 2012 02:08am
Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
Qamar
Jun 02, 2012 02:15am
Mr. Irfan Hussain's account of perils is true, but unfortunately he seems to avoid placing a fair share of the blame on the current government that has played havoc in last four years. Musharraf did a lot of damage to the country, but he was a dictator. What about the collapse brought about by the democratic government of the last four years?
Khalid Pathan
Jun 02, 2012 02:23am
The characteristic of a Black Hole is that it sucks matter and light, anything that reaches its event horizon is bound for extermination inside it. It devours and devours and is always hungry. Now the western world is fast coming to realize that by helping us they are inching toward the event horizon with little time left. We have never learnt and shall never learn. As the saying goes that "HUM TU DOBEY HAIN SANAM TUM KO BHE LEY DOBAIN GEY."
malik
Jun 02, 2012 02:42am
Beautiful ' and the rest of the time it is held to our own head.'
Noor
Jun 02, 2012 03:06am
America is the arch enemy of Pakistan. Give America a free hand and you will be the most favoured nation in the world. The survey is BIASED and totally unacceptable.
Mansoor warraich
Jun 02, 2012 05:02am
Irfan sb has rightly pointed to the image of Pakistan in the world. The blame can not be fully given to Pakistan alone. USA administration is also part of it. It started in 1979 when Pakistan wanted to help afghan mujahideen knock the Russians out ,because the west said, be ware , we were the next target for russia. We were drawn into a game which was not ours. now we are up to our necks in this great game. American administration is extremely cunning and should be dealt with intelligent and patriotic diplomats. Zia regime and Pervaiz regime must take the most blame. In their time Pakistan became a client state. We have to take some very bold steps to build our image. First is to expel all foreign fighters from the Pakistani soil. Then build oppurtunity zones along the tribal deprived areas. Develop counter insurgency capability. Stop CIA operatives from roaming the Pak streets. and so on and so forth. the list is long I hope Pakistani administration and the Army knows very well what to do. the question is , who has the capability and the courage to do it. Mansoor
Nasim Gill
Jun 02, 2012 04:02am
I fully agree with the author and have been a silent observer of Pakistan's ordeal since my youth years when I lived there and continuing up to now when I live in the U.S. I am a minority Christian but have always cared for our image overseas as I have worked and travelled around the world for 25 years. Given that we are on a suicidal course since the East Pakistan debacle, the dark days of Zia regime, Bhutto and Musharraf's blunders, the reckless foreign policy and the military doctrine currently in place - all of these do not guarantee a respectable place for Pakistan in the community of nations. The western governments and the U.S. are equally to be blamed for using Pakistan and then moving on BUT it is the military doctrine and extremist Islamic behavior (specifically the support of Taliban in Afghanistan and creation of local extremist groups) that continues to hurt Pakistan in every way - both domestically and abroad. Yes, I would like to ask the same question to the leaders and citizens of Pakistan - how long will you carry on like that? Given Pakistan's current standing, there should be a sense of urgency in getting rid of extremist elements and policies from every department of provincial and federal government, from the text books being read by students in high school, college and university level and from within all armed forces. The mullahs need to be reigned in to teach peace and tolerance as highlighted in Quran and to not preach extremism, intolerance and hatred against other Muslim sects and minorities. The Urdu press and television stations must embark on an urgent mission to help get rid of extremism and intolerance and bring back the good old days of 60s - 70s (when Pakistan was considered a safe country to visit and enjoy) through dramas, talk shows and educational programs. The future generations will not forgive the current leaders for their reckless behaviour and policies.
kanak
Jun 02, 2012 04:07am
Genuine feelings expressed by a well known Pakistani author. While all other countries have problems and work to solve them, Pakistani politicians and army work very hard to get any benefit out of them. For them the US, NATO or even China are friends that have to give money and weapons all the time and expect nothing in return. India is an eternal enemy not realising that the world inclg. India has moved on.Making nuclear missiles and bombs are not a fashion any more and no one is impressed with a country spending billions on these or on army at almost 20% of the budget.
RY Deshpande
Jun 02, 2012 04:14am
Depicting certain types of pictures is not sufficient, is never sufficient. Depictions must come out with possible and plausible solutions, with ideas and thoughts if not with idea-forces and thought-imperatives that can take things forward. "Supermarkets depict abundance; boutiques exclusiveness; roadside stands authenticity." I may add columnists relegate if not condemn or banish the picture without writing a word.
Jawed Sheikh
Jun 02, 2012 04:40am
Well said. When will we understand we are not wanted in the comity of nations.
Prasad
Jun 02, 2012 05:33am
I wish there were more like you in Pakistan, Irfan! Hopefully, the new generation is more open and honest....
Noor Khan
Jun 02, 2012 06:04am
As a British Pakistani, born and lived in the UK my whole life, the only thing I can say is that people in Pakistan have no idea whatsoever about how people around the world view their country. Throughout childhood I used to visit Pakistan every three to four years on average but now I don't visit anymore. Many of my relatives in Pakistan ask the question 'When are you coming to Pakistan?' and my answer is that I no longer have any plans to visit. Now I am 27 years old and my relatives there expect me to get married in Pakistan but I have now changed my mind on that and will marry a British Pakistani girl in the UK. I don't want the electricity being cut off at my wedding. Besides, why should I visit when there is no electricity for 18 hours a day? Why should I visit when I get harassed and scammed at Islamabad airport by corrupt customs officials and police officers? Even when I visit shops in Islamabad they jack up the prices when they hear my British accent. A very unwelcoming country indeed. It is going to take an entire generation to change the mentality of the people of Pakistan and I have my doubts that even Imran Khan can single-handedly change Pakistan. Too much damage has been done!
Noor Khan
Jun 02, 2012 06:06am
As a British Pakistani, born and lived in the UK my whole life, the only thing I can say is that people in Pakistan have no idea whatsoever about how people around the world view their country. Throughout childhood I used to visit Pakistan every three to four years on average but now I don't visit anymore. Many of my relatives in Pakistan ask the question 'When are you coming to Pakistan?' and my answer is that I no longer have any plans to visit. Now I am 27 years old and my relatives there expect me to get married in Pakistan but I have now changed my mind on that and will marry a British Pakistani girl in the UK. I don't want the electricity being cut off at my wedding.
Ravi Seru
Jun 02, 2012 06:32am
Pakistan needs more people like Mr. Irfan Hussain.
Tahir
Jun 02, 2012 06:50am
Let's put out house in order, and become good Muslims
Muhammad Ali Sajjad
Jun 02, 2012 07:03am
>>>>>do we really think he will even pick up the phone to talk to a Pakistani president after 2014? i will be glad when that day comes, when USA finally leaves pakistan, maybe then we might learn to stand on our feet, in short term Pak minus USA seem a difficult path but in long run that is the best option, and the sooner the better Irfan Hussain dont worry USA will never leave pakistan as USA has no friends only interests
Sultan khan
Jun 02, 2012 07:16am
A very marvellous article brimming with facts and realities and devoid of fiction and rhetorics. An eye-opener but not for those who don't want to see . What to speak of the author who is a learned man with a sharp mind even I an ordinary common man with barely average mental capabilities was appalled to read the comments of His Highness the retired ambassador about the nuclear exchange with the US.
Awais Lodhi
Jun 02, 2012 07:39am
strange how these surveys seem to appear out of no where just when the west feels hard done by Pakistan. pardon me if sound like a conspiracy theorist but its the western media that controls the western mind. Pakistan is being sucked into a crisis, if only we understood !!
Rationalist
Jun 02, 2012 07:49am
Excellent and very sobering analysis... @ Noor Khan Who cares about you personal life, do what you like, and please do not blow your trumpet in the space meant for reflection and analysis....
conflicted
Jun 02, 2012 08:08am
Thank goodness the US is talking about stopping the aid. All aid has done is to benefit the fat cats rather than the deserving poor. It's about time we started grappling with our problems, rather than have others identify them and impose external solutions. They may be brilliant in concept but have they worked? We've not really owned them. But it's not going to happen. The uneasy hypocritical relations will persist. The army will continue to run foreign policy, it will continue getting the latest in weaponry. And the deep state will continue to nurture the mullahs.
butseriouslyok
Jun 02, 2012 08:57am
How about good human beings? In USA, even an Christian American would find it odd if somebody generalizes "We Americans should be good Christians". Thought Pakistan had quite a few non-muslims...do they have to convert to become good? This is the thinking that is the main cause of Pakistan's problems today.
sameer124
Jun 02, 2012 08:37am
hehehehe
Unaiza Fatima
Jun 02, 2012 08:43am
Isn't Pakistan independent enough to decide on the price of something it is selling? If someone cannot afford to buy, should better find an alternative.
SHZ
Jun 02, 2012 09:06am
Mr Irfan needs to explore the role of Pakistan's dominant elite in this scenario, especially from Zia and the so-called 'jihad' in Afghanistan to the confused and directionless current PPP regime!
Daoud
Jun 02, 2012 09:08am
"I don't want the electricity being cut off at my wedding." -- TOUCHE !! Dear friend -- well said,very VERY well said! But have you ever heard of a "portable generator"? You could bring one with you from the UK, or better still have it imported from India next door (assuming of course 'your country' officials allow you!) Regards, Daoud.
Narayan Bhat
Jun 02, 2012 09:30am
Again and again, Irfan Husain proved to be one of the rarest intellectuals which Pakistan desperately needed.
observer
Jun 02, 2012 09:43am
Mr Hussain forgets 'Higher than Mountains , Allwether Friend China'. There is no need to worry, becoming another North Korea is an option.
observer
Jun 02, 2012 09:44am
You seriously mean that Pakistan actually is very popular across the globe?
Discostu
Jun 02, 2012 10:19am
Naturally. This Islamic Republic is not capable of doing wrong. Any claims to the contrary is just plain blasphemy. On that basis, this survey would be seen as biased and totally unacceptable. But if you were being a realist, which I can't be since I'm a Pakistani, I might have a different opinion.
saim
Jun 02, 2012 10:20am
you are 100% rite . first we need to be a good muslims
Salim
Jun 02, 2012 10:21am
we are suffering from intellectual and moral bankruptcy thanks to the establishment and the armed forces. Irfan, keep up the great work and persevere to wake up the nation.
Osman Rashid
Jun 02, 2012 10:33am
Mr Hussain, Less of how bad things are in Pakistan and more of who really is responsible for its degenaration. It is so very easy for ex pats like you to talk about how bad things can get without contributing anything conrete to the problem.
Osman Rashid
Jun 02, 2012 10:36am
My friend a good Muslim is a good human being.
Ram krishan
Jun 02, 2012 10:43am
Well said Mr. Irfan Hussian. your writing is commendable and you have spoken the truth. Would have been better if you wrote this for an URDU daily where atleast 50% people in Pakistan would have chance to read. One question : What are you doing in UK when Pakistan badly needs people like you who are level headed and truthful.? For your information , I always read your article and I am not a Pakistani either.
AAM
Jun 02, 2012 11:24am
Mr Hussain keeps forgetting that it is by toeing the US line that pakistan got into this mess in the first place.Never did we see a nation so pliant to the whims of foreign powers than Pakistan.Raymond Davis was deported with full protocol.Did that help improve Pakistan's image?On the contrary,we sunk to even lower depths.At that time,all Mr hussain could do was to bleat feebly that what would we have done had an arab sheikh been in place of raymond davis._So Mr hussain,I think you will understand if we don't take you too seriously.
riz
Jun 02, 2012 11:27am
totally agree with you. this survey proves that people around the world are so very easily brainwashed by the media. Pakistan has alot of problems but it is not as bad as the western media makes it. Mr irfan perhaps you should start writing some positive and interesting articles about Pakistan to counter-act the bbc properganda machine
Mohd Rizwan
Jun 02, 2012 11:29am
Right from childhood I have seen that Pakistanis have a 'feeling of grandiosity', be it from cricketers to bureaucrats, from politicians to military men and to some extent some portion of the general population... I used to wonder that they give more importance to intolerance than tolerance, to hatred than love, to violence than non-violence..I believe that a country is as good as its people.. the people should have the mentality of love and peace..not kill other religion people and become intolerant..
Sane
Jun 02, 2012 11:42am
My friend a good human is good Muslim and Christian and Hindu
Think
Jun 02, 2012 11:45am
Noor Burying your head in the sand won't change the reality. Time to open your eyes--
Osman Rashid
Jun 02, 2012 11:56am
The trouble is that Mr Hussain spends most of his time in the luxurious surroundings in the UK.
Eddies
Jun 02, 2012 12:42pm
Denial of the facts is your first mistake...this will be followed by conspiracy theories blaming everyone else, especially the west for Pakistans problems...it is very frustrating for those actually trying to help you...
Feroz
Jun 02, 2012 01:16pm
Brilliant article ! The Gun and the Pulpit rule Pakistan, all Institutions exist at their convenience.
El Cid
Jun 19, 2012 06:04pm
He can make one at home...same as this one was generated.
YaseenMirza
Jun 02, 2012 02:48pm
God knows well that how long this downward journey of this country and nation will continue. Who is responsible?Either people in power or the Nationas a whole. We desperately need a liberator. A sincere and capable leader, who could lead the nation towards right direction. This is unfortunate that we remained deprived of true,eligible and responsible leadership. Now this is the high time for us to choose honest people to govern this country.
PakAwam
Jun 02, 2012 02:50pm
Yes it is a conspiracy.. the world is out to get the 'sole' islamic atomic-super power, pakistan.
Cyrus Howell
Jun 02, 2012 03:16pm
The great error Pakistan made in the eyes of the world was hiding the wanted outlaw Osama bin Laden. At the same time the international media picks up on every acid attack on women, every murder of a daughter by her father, every stoning while the merry-go-round of the religiously insane just keeps spinning. Ibrahim al-Buleihi said, "We sharply distinguish between Islam in itself, and what people do in it's name." + The problem is that the non Muslim World cannot see that. They do not believe you. The law cannot allow murder. The West sees that in Pakistan murder is sanctioned.
akbar
Jun 02, 2012 04:02pm
sadly Mr Irfan Hussain does not live in Pakistan
Truthy
Jun 02, 2012 04:04pm
So non Muslims cannot be good humans?
Mohammad Ali Khan
Jun 02, 2012 04:06pm
The mindset that thinks that saying "Allah Hafiz", instead of "Khuda hafiz", makes one a good Muslim, is one of the causes of Pakistan's decline.
AHA
Jun 02, 2012 04:07pm
All you could think of was a 'minor' issue like the lack of electricity, and some shouting customs officer. Seems you have no comprehension of the real problems that we face here. I wish you well, in UK.
Hanif
Jun 02, 2012 04:10pm
Mr. Noor kindly explain your observation/statement?? do you know of a survey which refutes this or says that pakistan is the most popular country in the world??
Shawn
Jun 02, 2012 04:13pm
Exactly. That is ransom.
Agha Ata
Jun 02, 2012 04:27pm
It will be interesting to see. You asked: "How low can we go?" Well, we are looking at a nation that is fallen in a ditch, but hasn't stopped digging. . . Only time will tell. :)
Anonymous
Jun 02, 2012 05:26pm
Great Article..Spot on. Some questions though: 1. Do the vast majority of non-English speaking Pakistanis ever read/discuss things ike this? 2.. Why does discussion (see comments) - even among the English speakers/writers of Pakistan - have to involve religion? 3. The big one....do the ISI/Military/Political elite care?
Kris
Jun 02, 2012 05:27pm
The mistakes made in the early years of Pakistan are the cause of the problems we face today. I would advise every person who wishes well for Pakistan, to read it's history from 1947-1958.
Fred
Jun 02, 2012 05:35pm
You openly declare you see America as your enemy, but you don't say why? Is it the thousands of Mosques built in America? is it the billions in US aid to Pakistan?, Was it the Americans who died freeing Afghanistan and protecting Pakistan from the Russians? Please clarify?
Darasikoh
Jun 02, 2012 05:51pm
So, by extending your logic, every Non Muslim is NOT a good human? No wonder, why your country is at the bottom of the list.
Razzaq
Jun 02, 2012 07:14pm
Become good muslims? why not become good Pakistanis?
Faraz
Jun 02, 2012 07:14pm
Irfan , I live in the US and even from here I get suffocated when I see Pakistani anchors exploiting human tragedies for their ratings or to be giving soft exclusive interviews to a total clown. Each day I get more convinced that creation of Pakistan was a big mistake as it gave an entire country to an ideology that Muslims some how can live together with non Muslims . Muslims can't even live with each other .
Shafi
Jun 02, 2012 07:35pm
No Americans died in Afghanistan during Russian occupation. Only 'Mujahideen' died on behalf of America that ditched them when Russians retreated. Get the facts
Ali
Jun 02, 2012 08:42pm
The survey was conducted by BBC not America. But I guess you wouldn't buy that either. Good luck with your delusion. For sure you are more baised than America. And why wouldn't America look out for its own interest?
Unaiza Fatima
Jun 02, 2012 10:26pm
Americans sooner or later have to realize that Pakistan is not a free meal. It is an independent country which can and which should decide on the price of any facility it is providing.
adad
Jun 02, 2012 11:56pm
Thank you Sir, You hit the nail on the head. I was further informed (by people of this mindset) that the reason behind this thinking is that Allah is Arabic whereas Khuda is Persian. Hence being a Muslim one should only say Allah Hafiz....good to know...apparently now even God has a language! Sorry state of affairs., indeed.
Pir Rokhan
Jun 03, 2012 12:55am
Correct observations and sane approach.
singh
Jun 03, 2012 02:13am
Good article as usual
Adil jadoon
Jun 03, 2012 02:46am
"countries that are supposed to be our friends and allies" I think this is an important sentence to understand. We are not angry at others because they are not giving us enough "AID" but because we do not see them as our friends, and rightly so. Our current disaster of a government is in place thanks to the handy work of the then US government and our Military. Both of these need to stay out of the next elections to allow a government to evolve the the Pakistani people can call their representative. As for the military they are busy building Golf courses and are the most incompetent on the face of this earth, lets be honest here what happened on May 2nd is a great source of shame for the military on many accounts. Lets work together and forget about any help from others to dig ourselves out of this hole. The first step is a change of government and ishaAllah that is coming next year (hopefully not NURA LEAGUE though). Pakistan Zindabad.
Adil Jadoon
Jun 03, 2012 02:50am
America is not our enemy but is not our friend either and has never been. We don't need any aid and we will take care of the extremists on our side of the border but we want no part in this war. Lets shake hands while we still can and go our separate ways. Pakistan has suffered more then any other country in the last 10 years partly because of our own faults and our corrupt government and we have had enough.
Noor
Jun 03, 2012 03:57am
Why should I bring one with me? Shouldn't Pakistan have this already? Besides, do you want me to carry that with me on the plane?
Noor
Jun 03, 2012 03:59am
Minor issue? Any persons wedding is supposed to be the most important and best day of their life! You call this a 'minor issue?' If British Pakistanis stop sending billions of pounds in remittances to Pakistan then I don't think that would be a 'minor issue.' Infact, that would be disastrous.
El Cid
Jun 03, 2012 04:38am
HERE is your clarification: 1. There are more churches in Pakistan than their are mosques in America. 2. Every single mosque built in America was opposed either legally or by public protest againstbuilding it. Most were not allowed even after court cases and attorney fees. 3. Desecration of mosques and abusive anti-Islam graffiti is a regular feature, as is burning copies of the Quran. 4. Not a single American died freeing Afghanistan from Soviets [USSR not Russia]. 5. More than a million Afghans died and over 7 Million were left destitute or in exile. Many Pakistani military and commandos.
PKG
Jun 03, 2012 04:57am
No. First of all Pakistan has to be self sufficient in food. Second reduce population. Third, leave the Jehadi mentality, teach children to live for Islam, not to die for it. Fourth, realise, to get closer to India, forget enemity. Fifth, leave the mentality of searching all weather friend. Sixth, bring in secularism. Seventh, put restrictions on the free media, they nothing positive, only poison young minds. Eighth, change education curiculum, from nursery to PhD. I am an Indian, and do not enjoy Pak bashing!
El Cid
Jun 03, 2012 04:59am
Simply expelling foreign agents, agent-provocateurs and spies would reduce the turmoil by 99%. And Pakistan can start rebuilding. [These Raymond Davis types are all over the county. They incite, provoke, influence, infiltrate and finance...to spread discord, mayhem, destruction, disease, and death]
El Cid
Jun 03, 2012 05:09am
Please stick to the facts: India has just committed $6Billion exclusively for nuclear weapons. Also buying nuclear submarines from Russia.
Deb
Jun 03, 2012 08:26am
Why are Pakistanis protesting and destroying public property if electricity was really such a 'minor' issue??
Shah
Jun 07, 2012 10:47pm
Sir, Please do not misunderstand me but I think it happened for good. If there there had been no partition then the energy of the state would have been directed to maintain peace and there would have been no resources left for improvements.
El Cid
Jun 16, 2012 06:36am
And extending your logic: All men and women are human beings...but all human beings are not men, neither are they all women. Your logic obviously needs work. Or is that how it is taught in your country? Bottom of who's list? Its all relative...depending on the one who compiles it.
El Cid
Jun 16, 2012 06:38am
You know nothing about him...
El Cid
Jun 16, 2012 07:19am
Very well said. Obviously Pakistani women are wiser, have more intelligence, awareness, and courage to see the truth than their male counterparts. Thanks.