Breeding Terror?

Published Jun 28, 2011 12:49pm

There is a saying, if you look into an abyss, the abyss looks into you. In our case, there is much truth to it. Since the public flogging of journalists and social workers in the time of the all so much talked about General Zia, our nation as a whole, if it is even justifiable to use the term for Pakistanis, has taken a plunge to greater depths, perhaps never thought before possible.

We have since then managed to kill a leader cum politician in 2007; blown to smithereens countless men, women and children of Pakistan; eaten our own offspring – quite literally; and, killed journalists as well as publicly flogged women in the name of honor; brutally murdered our youth only to hang them upside down on a pole; and left to die kids on road bleeding to their last breath.

Terror is an attention-seeking monster. It breeds on recognition – the type of recognition one sees when one turns the television on, or picks up the newspaper, or even opens up a website. Three dead here, 17 injured in a suicide blast there, naval buses attacked, PNS Mehran, the GHQ, Data Darbar, Imam Bargahs, barely a spot on this country seems safe. And so, there is this delusional sick mind (read translation: Taliban) sitting somewhere in a valley showing to his students on television the trophies of his success in the form of broken limbs, splattered blood, and a nation writhing in pain and agony.

Intentionally or unintentionally we have given the spotlight to the Baitullah Mehsuds and Fazlullahs, to Lashkars of terror and their allies, to sectarian divisions and ethnic wars. Yes we are at war. No one is suggesting a state of denial, but the constant hammering of violence on our minds has made us collectively, a monster. There are segments that come out to justify acts of abhorrence and mob attacks and others that defend the cold blooded murder of the Governor of our largest province.

While America has a 9/11 and India harps about their 26/11, Pakistan has had so frequent and so many of them that it is hard to keep up. We kill in the name of honor; murder in the name of freedom; leech, loot and plunder the wealth of our nation under the guise of governance. To top it, the world accuses us of harboring terrorism and providing safe havens to “seasoned terrorists” that use our soil to attack India and threaten the security of the world at large (read: America). Yet, no one seems to acknowledge the fact that if we harbor and nourish them to this day, we would not have death looming over our citizens each passing day.

What we are breeding; however, is much worse. It is a generation as unfeeling and as unthinking as the dead. It is already a generation divided on every conceivable issue, whether it is politics, freedom of expression, honor, sectarianism or caste, biradari and ethnicity. As Gibran once put it, ‘Pity the nation divided into fragments – each fragment deeming itself a nation’. And now it seems, those much cherished and honorable beliefs of justice and humanity are washing away as well.

Day after day, week after week, year after year, these stories of hate have hardened our hearts to the point of no return. The monster has long been looking back into us, and we have gazed into this abyss far too long. Forget the notions of politics and of media, the inhabitants of the Land of the Pure are losing their grip on humanity – slowly becoming a part of the abyss, being sucked into adversity and ignorance, a state of mind so dangerously powerful that it could wash away traces of any renaissance that ever happened.

Siddique Humayun is a Policy Analyst striving to be human.

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Awais
Jun 28, 2011 06:14pm
I agree. As my mother always say "we have seen too much killing that now the news of people being killed in bomb blasts, out of (fake) honor, by our security forces, by ourselves (the MOB), by drones, rapes, by US agents.... it just dont disturb as anymore." It only takes to change the news channel or switch to a different website to get it over with.
edmond
Jun 28, 2011 06:20pm
When I meet my own public, it seems there only a handful of our people (even the most educated ones) who support your opinions. There is huge majority though who are hell bent on saying that what is happening is rightful in the name of religion. It would be nice if people like yourself could boldly come out and say what is really wrong. We know what is wrong, but nobody is courageous enough to do so lest they upset the mullahs. In the meantime, to say "striving to be human" will not produce results in Pakistan.
Gautam
Jun 28, 2011 06:53pm
I wouldn't say 'God help Pakistan' because probably every Pakistani says so with every breath. Clearly God has forsaken your unfortunate country and it pains to say, that Pakistan is actually staring into an abyss. My father was born in Pakistan, but my ancestors crossed over during partition; Its always been a dream for me to visit Pakistan one day with my grandmother and have her show me our ancestral village in Bannu, but I don't know if that will ever happen, because she is getting old and Pakistan is very unsafe to visit. Paradoxically speaking, GOD HELP PAKISTAN !!
Ttara
Jun 28, 2011 06:59pm
Peace loving Pakistanis,please do not loose heart. Evil,has an in built capacity to destroy itself. You will triumph in the end but the cost may be high. But it will be worth it.
putar
Jun 28, 2011 07:08pm
The fact of the situation is Pakistan is reaping what it had sowed in first place. Under the garb of religion Pakistanis first actively collaborated with USA to fight the Soviets out of Afghanistan and create a sphere of influence for your self. You then stated the same in Indian Punjab and then in Kashmir. You are now harvesting the crop of what you have planted. Instead of concentration on your own development you have charted a course of destruction. I think time is still not lost. Pakistan now should stop meddling in others affairs and should start concentrating on its own development. Otherwise this demon of terrorism will finish Pakistan and even the famed nukes which you possess and love to flaunt will not be able to save you.
teluka65
Jun 28, 2011 07:11pm
Can any pakistani explain to me why are muslims killing fellow muslims? This is forbiden by your Allah.In fact it is forbidden to kill any innocent being.The taliban which your goverment is favouring to rule afghanistan will not allow girls to study or work.No TV no music no movies.In which century are they living?Can any one englighten me as to what is YOUR PAKISTANI islam.
Sean
Jun 28, 2011 07:22pm
Thanks for being courageous. We are becoming nation of ignorant. We blame everyone but our self. Its time to grab the bull by the horn and take care of this once for all. The world is moving forward but we are moving backward and doing so we have surpassed the cave man and now caveman seems so civilized compare to us .
Foha
Jun 28, 2011 07:53pm
=( That is a very sad reality that you painted....
sradhanand
Jun 28, 2011 07:56pm
Please teach every Pakistani child to love all human being either Hindu, Muslim or Christian.
LD
Jun 28, 2011 08:00pm
Yeah, I wonder what kind of Islam is being followed by the Taliban.....perhaps a different version of Islam (Saudi Arabian Style)....Rise up PEOPLE, in the name of your freedom!!!!
Ashok
Jun 28, 2011 08:04pm
The few sensible Pakistanis need to take a bold step and come out and make their own Tehrir Square like the Egpytians. The right wing mullahs and religious fanatics must be stoppped otherwise Pakistan will turn into another Somalia, God forbid. Too much evil is being carried out in the name of Islam which is very disturbing. Majority of Pakistanis are good folks and I wish them well. But as the Koran states something to this effect, " Allah will never change a group of people, until they change themselves". Wake up Pakkis, you are living in the year 2011.....
nb
Jun 28, 2011 08:07pm
Mr Zia started fundementalism. This process has mutated over time and created terrorism. We have to get out of this.
sam
Jun 28, 2011 08:14pm
I do not take pleasure in kicking Pakistan while it is down but the truth is Pakistanis have placed far more faith in Lies, denials and propaganda than in Allah. Bringing back the teachings of religion is no danger and can certainly rescue Pakistan providing you do not twist your religion to suite falsehood and for material gain. That experiment has backfired big time as Allah can not be fooled (unless you do not believe that!)
ashutosh
Jun 28, 2011 08:17pm
Superb article gone bad in fragments such as "US has 9/11;India HARPS 26/11;as if that never happened or shook us.Tales of murder and mayhem being represented to an unsuspecting Pakistani citizenry;as if the opposition was spreading flowers.A total discourse of hate can't make people see the good.Having been together for long with Pakistani gentlemen myself,I have a much better understanding especially when one can put things in perspective by reading Ayesha Jalal and such.What does India gain by Pakistan's misery...however,lots of Indians do feel pleasure.Indoctrination has been here as well,but relatively a lot less;at least officially not through texts by the state.Detox occurs frequently undertaken by high powered academic commissions.Indians have been at the receiving end of an illogical state policy,since Zia.That being put aside programs sponsored by Times of India as AMAN KI ASHA would be made redundant.People are sensible;they have the heart to forgive and forget;they'll move on.Isn't Wasim Akram here and fairly liked;and why must it be confined to the massively hyped cricket alone?Much positive can follow.
Sanjay
Jun 28, 2011 08:21pm
In 1996 1 USD equaled 30.62 Pakistani Rupee and 35.4 Indian Rupees. Today 1 USD buys 86 Pakistani Rupees and 45 Indian Rupees. The people of Pakistan have let its miltary hijack economic policy and foreign policy. Instead of a government of the people, by the people, for the people you have a government controlled by the army, for the benefit of the army and paid for by the people of Pakistan. The army should serve the people not the other way around. If this problem is solved Pakistan has the potential to be the country its founding fathers hoped it would be.
Narvinnie
Jun 28, 2011 08:24pm
It's about time that some one is corageous enough to stand and tell the people of Pakistan what it is. Pakistan needs more couragous young men and women like him who are ready to defend their freedom their honour and walk freely in their own country without the fear of ruthless Talieban and other religous outfits. Youngsters should protest on the websites and vbia facebook to awaken the corrupt government and have them ban terrorist organizations for real.
Porterhouse
Jun 28, 2011 08:26pm
@Edmond. You have hit the essence of the problem. Whether it's your own personal experience talking to your countrymen or data from numerous polling of the Pakistani populace, the conclusion is inevitable: many if not most Pakistanis support the goals of the Pakistani Taliban. Generations have been indoctrinated, thanks to Arab money and influence through the schools, the mosques, and the media, to embrace a supremacist, hostile, intolerant and, incredibly, imperial strain of Islam. I say it's incredible that imperialism is unabashedly a part of this strain of religious doctrine because of the jaw dropping hypocrisy of those who complain about imagined western imperial designs on the Muslim world while simultaneously dreaming of an imperial Islamic caliphate that will conquer the Dar al-Harb. Yet to them, it is not hypocrisy, because part of this indoctrination relegates human rights to the rights of muslims, and has nothing but contempt for the non-believers. Hence you can find islmaic clerics who advocate raiding infidel lands for booty, taking non-Muslims as slaves, killing apostates, murdering all Jews, etc. This strain of Islam permits the most despicable and violent actions if they are in furtherance of religious goals. How do you deprogram your society at this point, when they don't want to be deprogrammed, and when these religious beliefs give them a sense of power and purpose? Unfortunately, it may not be possible absent the utter destruction of pakistan and deaths or millions that will result in the aftermath of an islamist nuclear terror attack on America which is traced back to Pakistan.
Andleeb
Jun 28, 2011 08:33pm
What was that saying about digging a grave for others and you yourself.....?
Murali-Atlanta-USA
Jun 28, 2011 08:33pm
While the author sounds very apologetic about the situation in Pakistan, particularly the overall apathy of the Pakistani people about the daily violence that goes on there, he seems to YET AGAIN (just as most Pakistanis do) find fault with the US, India & the rest for criticizing that Pakistan is not doing enough to curb terror emanating from its soil. Here' what he says "To top it, the world accuses us of harboring terrorism and providing safe havens to “seasoned terrorists” that use our soil to attack India and threaten the security of the world at large (read: America). Yet, no one seems to acknowledge the fact that if we harbor and nourish them to this day, we would not have death looming over our citizens each passing day. What we are breeding; however, is much worse.” Basically he contradicts himself in the above statements. Can the author explain that please? Murali-Atlanta-USA
andy
Jun 28, 2011 08:44pm
Big Difference between 9/11, Mumbai and the attacks in Pakistan. The first two were external; attacks supported by Paks against foreign countries, the attacks in Pakistan are By Paks supported by the ISI against other Pak civilians. The rest of the world sees the difference even if no Pak does.
Dave
Jun 28, 2011 08:45pm
When the corporate goes down, it is better to talk about merger. Why not Pakis talk about merger with India?
Murali-Atlanta-USA
Jun 28, 2011 08:45pm
Your reference to "US has 9/11;India HARPS 26/11;" is absolutely on the dot. That clearly shows the author inspite of being somewhat introspective, still cannot shake off his Pakistani bias! Murali-Atlanta-USA
rashid
Jun 28, 2011 08:52pm
bad poitics lead to bad ecomomics.Those who can not understand bad politics will be forced to realise as they face the consequences of bad ecomomics.
P. Joseph Raju
Jun 28, 2011 09:01pm
Dear Siddique, You are absolutely right. Every word wrote here is accurate. What's the solution. It is high time for Pakistan to review her historic stand with India. The animosity maintained since the partition has taken a toll on both countries. It is already proved there is no victory for both after the war, only destruction and pain. I have seen again and again, there is no enmity between the people. I am glad that leaders like you are coming and speaking out. Until the Pakistan army change its current course, there is no hope for Pakistan. It will be a country always with a rich army with poor people. The army will maintain the violence as it helps their well beings every possible at the cost of the country. The answer is a Pakistan spring. Keep working hard to change the country. Don't be discouraged. Sincerely, P. Joseph Raju
aditya
Jun 28, 2011 09:11pm
Pakistani Army Zindabad ISI Zindabad With them in charge pakistan will eventually implode and fragment..Cheers
Anurag
Jun 28, 2011 09:23pm
First, my heart goes out to the author and all Pakistanis, who doubtless, have suffered the scourge of terror in the last decade. The problems seems to be that humans seem to be masters at rigging any system that has been invented- be it Capitalism, Communism, Democracy or even (or shall we say, especially) religion. The purpose and ideals of the system are set aside, and ways are found to further various agenda of personal profit and power. And there lies the problem. For any system to succeed, sufficient checks have to be incorporated to prevent the riggers from doing their thing at the peril of the rest. What will Pakistanis do to prevent the radicals and the martials from taking over the peaceful rest? Ultimately, the common man, despite all his/ her troubles and burdens, shall have to actively fight this. No politician, no general will do this for the masses. A pity that the land of the Sufis and Qawwalis is having to see such bloodshed.
Mikal
Jun 28, 2011 09:27pm
It is incorrect to blame the current situation solely on the army. It has instead been the result of collective failure of generation after generation to get a handle on things and shake of the myopia that plagues us.
Tarun Vedi
Jun 28, 2011 09:49pm
Only answer to all problems, rewrite history as it was in your school books, educate new generation to be part of global village, rather portraying as only islamist country defending islam in the world.
Owais
Jun 28, 2011 10:13pm
Andy first let me make it clear that there was no Pak involvement in 9/11 and to be really honest many people still believe that it was America themselves who did it, as for Mumbai maybe yes ISI was involve but not really proven. And last but not the least attacks in Pak are supported by external agencies and i think every one know who will benefit from these attacks including the PNS Mehran attack.
ashutosh
Jun 28, 2011 10:16pm
You should read the Unionist era and the composite culture,pre-partition,Mr Jinnah's bringing in of the Muslim League poliitics of UP etc. The mistakes of Congress leadership and the vileness of the rulers in showing themselves genuine and actually being friends of neither.Then comes the partition,happy for some and pain for a lot many.Then,division of provinces in a pressured communal situation.Who's correct and who's not has happened for 60 odd yrs.There are stiil fools daydreaming with agenda to unfurl their flag on the Red Fort of another sovereign nation thereby vitiating peace further.As one of the generations referred earlier,what's it that WE are doing different from them;despite advatages the previous one never enjoyed,namely new technologies etc.So, think further....Many,who aren't the villains are becoming victims of their leaderships unsavoury choices.
Ahmad
Jun 28, 2011 10:19pm
Nice to see so many Indians comment on the article, and most of them are positive comments. I hope you do know all this is about you and China, no matter how much you consider the West to be allies and your friends eventually there is going to be a stand off between the big powers for the limited resources. And, yes India is going to be one of those fighting to claim those resources for themselves. Muslims as we are right now, are not a threat to anyone else but ourselves. You think the most powerful country in the world would spend close to a trillion dollar to fight a force of rag tag militia, a force that they generated themselves in the first place. Oh no my friends there is no doubt in my mind that it's just a cover for them positioning themselves around the global resources. Next stop is Africa. India and China have been trying to set their feet in that continent since the Americans aren't present there as heavily as in other parts of the world, and surprise surprise there is the Arab uprising.
Shehzad Khan
Jun 28, 2011 10:19pm
Like it or not, its astonishing to see that majority of the comments are from across the border. While they are quick to point out the author in his bias towards Pakistan, I encourage them to pick up any TOI or Hindustantimes and see in what light they portray Pakistan. it acnnot be that all the blame lies with Pakistan and rest of the world, esp India is squealy clean and righteous. So yeah, while comments are appreciated, please be realistic in your assessment of your own desh also. All in all, encouraging to see that we can agree to disagree in a civilized manner. Good job DAWN!
vijay
Jun 28, 2011 10:25pm
only good citizen can make a good nation,insted of blaming millitery,politician people should think themself,how is there mind.for example take haiti and japan two devasteted country.in haiti people killing each other,raping women,u can see in japan people helping each other,standing calmly in que for there turn.there is no question of government,or millitery.
Vinny, Chennai
Jun 28, 2011 10:34pm
No way, please spare us. Its their problem to sort out - maximum we Indians can give is SYMPATHY, nothing more. Happy with the current map of India :-) Don't wanna share our spoils since 1947 with Pakistan, sorry.
emory
Jun 28, 2011 10:34pm
Owais you are simply awesome. Please continue living in denial.
malik
Jun 28, 2011 10:35pm
It is all lies and an Indian/Amrica/Israel conspicacy to malign us. We are angels and Pak army and ISI are best in the world.
khalid
Jun 28, 2011 10:44pm
I completely agree with the learned writer. Good job Dawn.
Global Thinker
Jun 28, 2011 10:45pm
Cheering on the miseries of those in distress is for a miserable person. On a serious note, stability of Pakistan is what the rest of the world wants. Pakistan is literally and figuratively a ticking time bomb- and the blame lies squarely on the military (NO ONE ELSE). They behave like the “muhallah ka gunda” who guarantees protection, but at the cost of absolute power and control. The military has only embarrassed itself and the nation in every war it has fought. It has used those losses as a means of empowering themselves by demanding more power and money- using Kashmir and demonization of India as the ONLY national policy. Think about it. Talking about Kashmir at every International forum was not intended to help the Kashmirees, but to justify their presence and power. Disgusted with what is happening, the Pakistanis with means are looking for an exit plans from Pakistan. How do they expect Kashmirees to have anything to do with Pakistan? With so much mess at hand, the Pakistan-India dialogue is still focused on Kashmir. Wake up!!! Sign a NO-WAR pact with India. Ask for help and develop a free trade/exchange program with India. Get their help to develop the country and get out of the dark ages. There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan who would rejoice at this opportunity. Pakistan would have been growing leaps and bounds (even ahead of India), if military would not have killed the baby of democracy every time it tried to walk and Zia did not poison the power of military with religious nuts. Unfortunately, I cannot think of a single plan that can move Pakistan out of this mess.
jackmohan
Jun 28, 2011 11:00pm
God help those who help themselves.So Pakistan "jago"jago" and save yourself before its too late.India would love to see a peaceful, healthy & wealthy Pakistan.afterall we share the same ancesters
nagu
Jun 28, 2011 11:01pm
Edmond is right. even if the govt or ISI or even for that matter Army comes up and say that, It was behind mumbai attacks or it did shelter Bin Laden or the navy had terrorist inflitrated. a lot of people would still not believe it. People would still say its an US/Isreal/India publicity to malign pakistan. Is it not we saw when Pak army said, Bin laden was killed? the worst case is People did not even believe Bin Laden's wife!!..As far as people can be easily manipulated like this. A little manipulation to make a suicide bomber is not that difficult. Some body pointed out that critical thinking should be part of Pakistan curriculum. until that generation of educated people come up. I believe, there would not be any peace in Pakistan
rehmat
Jun 28, 2011 11:05pm
Pakistanis attacking Pakistanis is different from 9/11 and 26/11 where foreigners attacked citizens. COmpletely different. Also Pakistanis say that they are victims too, so the world should not blame them. Sorry - disagree. The Haqqani group attacks NATO tropps. They are sheltered in North Waziristan and Pakistan considers them their assets. Likewise LeT leader blatantly addresses rallies in Pakistan talking of attacking India and killing Indians. The Pakistani parliament has said tht it does not want their soil to be used for terrorsm against any country, so why are these people not arrested for their hate speech? Pakistan is only fighting those terrorists (TTP) who attack Pakistan but not those that attack other countries. This is why everyone else is so frustrated with Pakistan
Saqib
Jun 28, 2011 11:07pm
Seed of bias can only germinate in a soil where different groups of people live closely in the environment of disharmony. In Pakistan, where at least past two generations are grown up in a mono religious society, bias on the basis of religion is anthropologically impossible. This is repeatedly admitted by the Indians who meet Pakistanis somewhere in the world. Even in the history before 1947, the land called Pakistan today, had never experienced religious riots like U.P, Gujrat or other parts of India. So problem is not the religious bias, problem lies somewhere else.
101TIMES
Jun 28, 2011 11:13pm
No way forthat the rest of Pakistani's would agree to that either. Its agreed Pakistan may have issues of its own but merging with India and or any obsurd thought of that kind is simply unimaginable, probabbly a nightmare for Pakistani's themselves. There are enough problems India has of its own; including Hindu extrmeists killing Muslims, the HIV infection rate that tops any other country in the world are just a couple to mention. So trust me my friends Pakistan doesn't want to be a part of India none more than Indians want a Pakistan to be a part of them.
rehmat
Jun 28, 2011 11:19pm
Well said. Peace with India wll allow Pakistan to reduce defense budget significantly and invest in health, education and infrastructure of Pakistan. This in turn will allow the economy to progress. The issue with terrorism has a different root though. Unlike what some peole said - this demonisation of 'others' is the root cause of this terrorist mindset. It started way before Zia. Hindus were attacked in 1950s and so most who had stayed behind at the time of parition have left Pakistan (there were 10% Hindus and 25% non-Muslims in Pakistan in 1947, now there are 1% Hindus and less than 5% non-Muslims). Declaring Ahmadis non-Muslim was done by Bhutto. Mistreating Bengalis was throughout the 1960s including killing tens of thousands of Bengalis in 1970. The next target was Shias. Thus there has been a gradual progression of intolerance. As long as they were not the victims people did not speak up. Now the monster has grown so big that it attacks anyone that is not EXACTLY like them. Thus liberal Sunnis are also fair game now. Peace with India will not solve this problem. There will have to be an attitude of zero tolerance for hate speeches including people who come on TV or distribute flyers describing 'others' as wajib-ul-qatl'. Mullahs, televangelists, political leader - anyone inciting for murder should not be spared. That is the only way.
Rahul
Jun 28, 2011 11:20pm
I used to sympathise with Pakistanis previously after any attack or bomb blast - after all any person killed leaves behind a grieving family and if was the earning member - a life full of hardship for them. But seeing the majority of Pakistanis' reaction after the assasination of Salman Taseer has changed that. How can I feel for a nation of people who shower petals on the assasin, has schoolchildren offering bouquets at the prison gates to be delivered to him, spectacular rallies in his support and an overwhelming majority supporting the brutal killing on the net and different forums.
rehmat
Jun 28, 2011 11:31pm
There were several terror attacks from Pakistan in India between 2006 and 2008. Mumbai, Bangalore, Jaipur, Ahmedabad and Delhi were attacked. The Mumbai 2008 was the final straw that really made everyone angry. If you see Times of India or Hindustan Times articles before that you will not find much reference to Pakistan (good OR bad) before that. While it is tru that no-one is 100% wrong or right, it is a fact that with Pak-India, each of the wars was started by Pakistan and never India. Pushings thousands of 'non-state actors' into Punjab and Kashmir was a deliberate policy of Pakistan that even Pakistani leades acknowledge. On the other side, Indians do not come to Pakistan and create terror. So while the negative feelings may be on both sides, there is more legitimacy to the heartburn on one side compared to the other. If you exclude Kashmir from the equation (which you consider yours and India does not), you will not be able to come up with a SINGLE instance where India has atacked or harmed Pakistan. India can come up with several instances where this was done by Pakistanis - including with state support.
CS
Jun 28, 2011 11:39pm
The fact of the matter is, the world wouldn't be focusing on Pakistan if it weren't for the home bred terrorists - who wage "jihad"; kill in the name of religion - going on a rampage OUTSIDE your country. They make a joke of themselves and the country when they appear on camera talking about conspiracy theories about Islam in danger. The politicians don't seem to know what's going on; they casually feign ignorance talking about the tough time Pakistan is going through and how foreign powers are trying to destabilize the country. The military seems to be mum for most of the time; once in a while making public statements regarding Pakistan's Foreign Policy. The militia and mullahs are of course having a jolly good time.
Bhushan
Jun 28, 2011 11:41pm
Finding some one to blame for your own problem wont solve it you are just turning a blind eye to the problem, which is a recipe for disaster.
CS
Jun 28, 2011 11:47pm
Well said Tarun. History in Pakistan is portrayed as only to do with the "glorious" Mughal/Turkish/Afghani invasion and what a world of good it has done to make the nation. The changes need to take place at the grass roots - they need more than strong will. They need courage to face their own demons.
CS
Jun 28, 2011 11:58pm
The author is self-contradictory indeed. The article oozes denial.
N.G. Krishnan
Jun 29, 2011 12:05am
“ Pakistan today, had never experienced religious riots like U.P, Gujarat or other parts of India.” is exactly because there is no meaningful collection of religious groups other than Islam to riot against. This kind logic of one up man ship over India is all too familiar from “a generation as unfeeling and as unthinking”  people of Pakistan.
Boby
Jun 29, 2011 12:26am
That is exectly the problem with pakistan is. Just to blame somebody else for their won problem. Where was pak army and ISI s well when USA got Osama Bin Laden right next to your army training center? It's time to introspect.
ali
Jun 29, 2011 12:30am
rahul i appreciate your keen observation but being a nation we are divided in two segments one leads as islamic modernization and rest of others are extremist. time are now far away when we will decide which path should we adopt for peace. at the other hand many other agencies taking advantages of this situation, we are fighting against different enemies at the same time...
Romi
Jun 29, 2011 01:28am
Let's imagine a different scenario - partition never happened. All the energy spent on fighting each other directed to development. No getting entangled in the cold war politics. Today the unpartitoned country would have been one of the most prosperous in the world. Peace can still bring that about. Unfortunately the biggest loser would be the PAK military and they will NEVER let peace happen.
Rohit
Jun 29, 2011 02:54am
Dear Bhushan, It seems, you have missed the sarcasm in Malik's tone.
Owais
Jun 29, 2011 02:54am
Rehmat: i have seen many of your comments and i do understand that what you are saying is that Pak-India should be friends and believe me we want it more than you guys do. But as there is a great saying "You cant clap with one hand". In all you comments, the only feeling that i can get is that you are blaming Pak for everything whether when it comes to Wars or other attacks. There are many cases where India has been involved in attacks on Pakistan. No doubt pak has made mistake but my brother India is also not lacking behind.And rather then saying the same stuff again and again and blaming Pak, you guys should support Pak in crisis and let it stabilise.
Prerak Bhatt
Jun 29, 2011 03:39am
the answer is education. And it will take two generations (40 years) to change the culture and ignorance of hatred. It's too late for the current lot.
Oogway
Jun 29, 2011 05:38am
You are blinded by the pride, for you have created a monster and hope to rule the world. But the monster will prey on you before you realise... and the pride will get its worthy dustbin. The only worry is the number of Innocent Pakistanis, who will be sacrificed.
Bobby
Jun 29, 2011 05:56am
An amazing write up. Written with feeling and concern. Terrorism is a cancer which needs to be fought with all available means and by all affected parties jointly. Artificial barriers of international borders are not recognised by terrorists. In the fight against terror such borders are meaningless. there is of course a difference between the US 9/11, the Mumbai attacks and what is happening in Pakistan. the first two were not indigenous. Terrorism in Pakistan is , by and large indigenous.
Mohinder
Jun 29, 2011 06:04am
People of India and pakistan may agree to merge,but not leadership of both countries.We have the same culture and sentiments.I was born in Pakistan(Bhawalpur),I wish if could visit my place of birth any time.People of both Counteries are good,but leaders mislead masses in the name of religion. Too bad.
jssidhoo
Jun 29, 2011 06:26am
Step 1 is deweaponise the country . Only the army and para-military forces should have weapons even the police must not routinely carry weapons . Have fast track courts for civilians having weapons or bombs /bomb making material award and implement the death penalty and see the level of violence fall .
Mohammad Ali Khan
Jun 29, 2011 07:04am
Whole Nation needs to challenge their beliefs.What we have inherited is opposite from what Prophet Mohammad wanted us to believe.The terrorists have inherited the same beliefs what we have inherited. Our beliefs have failed to make our society honest,disciplined,compassionate and open minded.We may have degree, but remain ignorant,and corrupt.
Mohammad Ali Khan
Jun 29, 2011 07:07am
Rahul, I feel the same way.
Aditya
Jun 29, 2011 07:54am
I partially admit to the fact you have stated above, however lets face it the root cause of it all is Religion.
krishnan
Jun 29, 2011 08:15am
This coment seems very delusional and mis informed. seems that a propaganda machine has found its target and inculcated its message effectively.
Nagaraj
Jun 29, 2011 08:35am
"Day after day, week after week, year after year, these stories of hate have hardened our hearts to the point of no return". The author summarizes the meaning of entire article in just one sentence. It is a very good and thought provoking article. But the Author has failed to suggest a solution to the problem.
Cynical
Jun 29, 2011 08:48am
Heavens no. Partition did a great service to India.
Vikas
Jun 29, 2011 08:53am
China has been the closest friend of Pakistan for the last sixty years. If it had acted like a true friend, Pakistan would have been a stable and prosperous state today.Pakistan has received bns of $ as aid from the US over the same period. Yet its state is what it is today, socially and economically. Let me stick my neck out and say that eventually Pakistan will one day be peaceful and prosper only because of India. If their military and mullahs understand this, peace shall prevail.
numbersnumbers
Jun 29, 2011 08:57am
And Osama bin Laden was killed where? Living for years just a few hundred meters from whose premier Military academy?
numbersnumbers
Jun 29, 2011 09:02am
Owais, please tell us which "external agencies" are tupporting terrorist attacks inside Pakistan.
hassan
Jun 29, 2011 10:06am
problems need to be identified but self loathing leads nowhere
Awais Khan
Jun 29, 2011 10:32am
I think that in these situations the media should also report responsibly and not give coverage to terrorist organizations.
Mohammed
Jun 29, 2011 10:59am
It is not necessary for ordinary peace loving Pakistanis to feel helpless. Every rejection of extremism like this article adds to the sanity of political discourse. Also, social networking tools could be used by peace loving Pakistanis and Indians to develop a thriving South Asian Region. If not Us, Who ? If not Now, When ?
Akil Akhtar
Jun 29, 2011 11:08am
And you keep the self serving propoganda without providign any evidence.
Akil Akhtar
Jun 29, 2011 11:17am
Why is it that any article which gives opportunity to demonise Pakistan draws indian readers in hordes but anything positive is written and all these readers vanish. We would like to see these so called superior beings and citizens of the largest democracy raise their voices for the suffering of minorities in theur own country. Atleast a few hundred thousand have been murdered in india but there is no outrage from teh Hindu majority. Infact it is totally ignored by the citizens and their media. One word comes to mind Hypocrates
Insomniac
Jun 29, 2011 11:38am
and there he goes again..!! mate this is the mentality thats causing harm to pak and rest of the world...grow up, look around and you will see what we are seeing from across the border...living in this self fantasized world is not going to help you.
Bhavin
Jun 29, 2011 11:42am
@Saqib: Another Pakistanis in mode of denial. If Religous Bias is not the problem then what was the issue with Salmaan Taseer's death and shower of petals on Quadri, the assasin who is treated as messiah in the name of honour. There is Fire in your house, no point in saying that Neighbour's house also has fire, not going to solve your problem.
F Zafar
Jun 29, 2011 11:44am
You missed the point Bhushan!
niteknite
Jun 29, 2011 12:07pm
I think this malik is related to Rehman "Star Wars" Malik...certainly thinks like him.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 12:30pm
@ Saqib: This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Explain why in a country as diverse as America that there arent riots everyday and bomb blasts against other ethnic groups. Go to Toronto, and see that its more peaceful than almost anywhere on Earth. Your explanation that intermingling of groups breeds trouble is simplistic, and simply wrong. Further, it encourages a dangerous division of society into smaller and smaller groups. It also breeds racism if separate groups cannot live together - and that, mind you, is completely against the message of Islam.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 12:32pm
Mate, one day we will be able to visit each others country freely. Its just a matter of getting the politicians and army out of the way. The masses of India and Pakistan could solve our differences in a day.
Shan
Jun 29, 2011 12:50pm
And what about the minorities in Pakistan? They are worse-off than the minorities in India. Do some study on the percentage population of minorites in Pakistan during partition & compare it with now. Forcible conversions of minorities by the majority community do not happen in India; can you say that about your country? See yourself in a Mirror before calling others hypocrites; Truth hurts. Besides, why don't you stick to the subject of the article? Excellent article by the author.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 12:57pm
A lot of Indians besides cynical and vinny are indeed upset that a fleeting movement by Muslim elites was able to divide Mother India, largely based on very fortunate timing (or unfortunate if youre Indian). As for not sharing those "spoils," maybe you should first learn to share them with places like Bihar, because as glitzy and glamourous as Noida, Gurgaon, and Colaba may be, there's still a Dharavi, Uttar Pradesh, and Bihar that hasn't seen any of those spoils.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:02pm
You're right. Pakistan is a country that is owned by our military. Even when the civilians are in power, the Army is behind the scenes pitting politician against politician, causing chaos that results in people losing faith in democracy and viewing the Army as the only competent institution. The West has boughten into this narrative. The reason that the rest of Pakistan is so dysfunctional is because the Army plays dirty politics, and gets all the money that they want. However, using the example of exchange rates isn't the greatest evidence because there's far more to that than just the Army. Take for example, that successive governments have preferred to see the rupee weaken to boost exports - a policy which may have finally paid off as Pakistan's exports have touched record highs.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:05pm
And who's version of Islam do you follow? The Shias? Ahmaddiyah? Salafists? Ismailis? Sufis? Wahabbis? Shafi? Zikri? The reason there's so much sectarianism is because we've introduced too much religion into Pakistan, and everyone is terrified that their interpretation will be trampled over by the majority community whenever any difference arises.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:08pm
Don't you understand? The Mullahs dont care about the will of the people. They know the vast majority of Pakistanis are against them. They tried to win at the ballot box for 60 years, and they failed miserably each time. Now they've discovered that they can use brain washed kids from Madrassas to FORCE their morality upon everyone else. No mass demonstration can intimidate the Mullahs, because they already know theyre unpopular. But when you believe youre doing God's work (or are drunk on power), you dont really care what everyone else thinks.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:18pm
The people of Pakistan and the Army of Pakistan are two very different things. The ARMY of Pakistan creates troubles, and the PEOPLE of Pakistan suffer. And what happened in Punjab was a result of what happened in the Golden Temple in 1984, not because of Pakistan (even if Pakistan supported them, it was not started by Pakistan). Kashmir wouldn't have blown up if Kashmiris weren't pissed at India. The 1989 insurgency took Pakistan by surprise just as much as India. For all this talk of Indians saying Pakistanis blame everyone else for their problems, I often see Indians in denial about what caused the Kashmiri uprising in the first place. This, despite it being a very well known fact, even in New Delhi, that Kashmiris simply do not want to be subjects of India. Not to say they want to be Pakistanis, but they certainly wish not to be Indian.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:22pm
No state can make another state prosperous. Our friendship with China shouldn't be discounted by our own poverty - that is the result of our own luck and policies, and no one expects China to turn Pakistan into Dubai. Plus its unfair to pin our success on Beijing. But youre right, Pakistan can be made wealthy by trade with India. But to say that India is our only hope? Well, I think thats a bit of a stretch of the imagination.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:29pm
To say HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of minorities have been murdered in India is a horrendous exaggeration, even if the true number is huge. But please, as one Pakistani to another, let's not always bring our neighbors into this. It just feeds into this idea that we have a complex with neighbors we actually know very little about. You may think India is full of blood thirsty Hindu chauvinists, and they may think Pakistan is like an African country that is about to fall apart, but both assumptions are wrong. We have horrible misconceptions about one another. Just for the record, the average Indian and Pakistani lead very similar lives. Despite the mess that Pakistan is in, and despite India's growing economy, its not as if our average citizen is noticeably richer or poorer than the other.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:33pm
I understand your point, but coming from an Indian is ironic. Lets be honest, Indian politicians do the same thing. To blame Pakistan for the Punjab and Kashmiri insurgencies is to fundamentally disregard what caused the Sikhs and Kashmiris to take up arms in the first place. Even if the movements were supported by Pakistan, they were not instigated by Pakistan, and Indian politicians seem to ignore the overwhelming desire for independence in Kashmir, just as they seem to ignore the role of operation blue star in the Punjab insurgency.
BS Murthy
Jun 29, 2011 01:34pm
It seems the Frankenstein Monster was out of the writer's mind when he wrote - "Yet, no one seems to acknowledge the fact that if we harbor and nourish them to this day, we would not have death looming over our citizens each passing day."
nb
Jun 29, 2011 01:36pm
If neighbor’s house is on fire then one gets concerned. Wind may bring fire to my house also.
Crow
Jun 29, 2011 01:38pm
Where are those Chinese readers, when we need them to comment? Eh?
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 01:41pm
There's a great misconception that Pakistan's educational system breeds violence and chauvinism. This is largely due to widely publicized texts from madrassas that were misattributed to the national education system. But the point is valid: change lies in education. And ad CS: There's nothing wrong with that interpretation of history, because if those invasions had not occurred (along with the British system of divide and rule that pitted Muslims against Hindus and caused us to view each not as Indians, but as Hindus and Muslims), the Northwest of India wouldn't have been Islamized and eventually partitioned off of british India. So yes, those invasions did form our nation.
Rupesh
Jun 29, 2011 01:47pm
Yaa ... i am entirely agree with you Vikas. China has always acted as catalyst to spoil the relationship between INDIA & PAK. If China is really good friend of Pakistan then he will assist with nuclear energy rather than nuclear weapons. Being an Indian i wish for peace in Pakistan and may china have good intention behind every aid rendered by them to Pakistan directly or indirectly.........
Srihari Prasad/ Indi
Jun 29, 2011 01:51pm
@ Akil: I am sorry to say that there are people with your mindset are there on both sides. My guess is the numbers would be more on your side. Trust me, no one in their right senses would want a troubled Pakistan. Also, I would like to respond to your coments on our minorities; agreed that we have some issues because of a small segment of crazy people in the majority community, the truth is we have more and enough mechanisms within our country and people to take care of our citizens minorities or otherwise. You comment about a few hundred thousand minorities murdered in India is hilarious to say the least...reminds me of that clown in the red headgear who appears on Pakistan TV channels. Wish you well..God bless!
Aditya
Jun 29, 2011 01:54pm
A few hundred thousand?? Where are you coming up with these kind of numbers?? If even one person from the minority community is killed its highlighted over and over for months together ...the gujarat riots of 2002 are still an issue and continues to be highlighted even after almost a decade... Please correct what is wrong in your house first ...India is doing a far better job and we dont need a certificate from you guys.
Rizwan Afrdii
Jun 29, 2011 02:00pm
I'd like to state that India will one day be a warm ally to Pakistan, but thats a few decades away after the whole Kashmir thing gets resolved (lets just both give Kashmir hong kong-style autonomy and quit fighting already!). But that relationship wont come at the expense of SinoPak relations.
Omair Khalid
Jun 29, 2011 02:11pm
Why solve anything when we can indulge in the blissfulness of denial!
Rahul
Jun 29, 2011 02:13pm
Please get out of this Hindu Muslim syndrome. Love humanity. My country has seen a lot of injustices. But we don't hide them. We don't live in denial. And none of our trouble makers go to other countries and create murder. I hope India takes action against Samjhota express killers though
Rahul
Jun 29, 2011 02:14pm
I salute you !!!. Thats the best thing I read in this site so far.
Rahul
Jun 29, 2011 02:17pm
Dear friend, religious tolerence is exemplary in the West. Something we must learn from them. In Pakistan there are no riots because there are no minorities. Indai has a huge minority. Therefore it is easier for politicians to create differences among people and incite them( the way British did). I hope India will mature into a good heterogenious society.
Ejaz
Jun 29, 2011 02:18pm
Your suggestion is ideal. But we are not living in Utopia. We are like India. Can you impliment this suggestion in India? Ans. NO.
Rahul
Jun 29, 2011 02:20pm
Look at how Shia's and Sunnis fight in Iraq. There are not bad people.They are muslims, yet they kill each other.Some of these seeds have been sowed by the West. Just as they divided and ruled India.
Ram Krishan Sharma
Jun 29, 2011 02:21pm
First I must congratulate the author of this blog for his courage in speaking out the TRUTH. One of the remedies for the present situation is Education in true history of Pakistan starting from the year 3,000 from today. This will tell the Pakistani Kid that Indian and Pakistani people are of the same family and have same DNA which will definitely remove enemity and hatred from his mind. when i was a kid 60 years ago , I was taught " Hindu, Muslim , Sikh , Esai , Aapas main hehe Bhai Bhai" in my school in India. That was excellent teaching. I sincerely hope Pakistan will be a peaceful country in near future.
GKrishnan
Jun 29, 2011 02:36pm
Well put indeed, Mohammed ! As a Bob Dylan song goes " How many deaths will it take till he knows, that too many people have died ?". Nothing can be done about the past, so we need to build on the present with an eye to the future, and this can happen only if the countries in South Asia get together. There's everything to gain and nothing to lose
Romesh
Jun 29, 2011 03:20pm
Mr. Akhtar, with all due respect and due apology to you, Sir, I do not agree with your assessment. I live in the US and am a very regular reader of Dawn. Nobody here is trying to demonize Pakistan. Terrorism affects people all over the world. Terrorism needs to be dealt with now. Not tomorrow, not next week or next month or next year. All the countries of the world, need to come together and fight terrorism as one team. Vast majority of Pakistanis are peace loving and want a good life for them and their children. They are also the ones, who suffer most at the hands of terrorists. So the Government of Pakistan, the Armed Forces, the Police and all the peace loving citizens of Pakistan should overcome their differences and come together on a single platform to eliminate terrorism for ever. The majority should never allow the minority to dictate. I have said it before and let me say it again, a strong, prosperous, independent and stable Pakistan is in the best interest of, not only her neighbors, especially India, Afghanistan and Iran, but also for the rest of the world. But time to start fighting back against the scourge of terrorism is now.
Parveen Gupta
Jun 29, 2011 03:32pm
Every country has mix of extermist to moderate kind of people... and state of any country decides which kind of people rule at that time. Comparing India and Pakistan, at present Pakistan is under rule of extremist... India is below moderate. Definately, mind set of people in India has changed a lot in past decade [Attitude change is if you can kill my people, I am also not afraid of killing yours... And we can never conclude, who started this... try to watch movie "Mumbai meri Jaan", this depict what change in mind set means]... and root cause of that is also terrorism. And no need to mention, who dominates this terror factory. Believe me day this terror factory shuts down, East will be best in world... Our western world knows what keep this terror factory alive... and they support this, so that we should always keep fighting like this. We all need to invest in progress rather than hate. East is always known for belief in God [which ever form] and peace. This is my thiniking... and I am "born" Hindu... Its nothing to do with Hindu or Muslim, because a moderate Muslim also thinks the same.
Dalbir
Jun 29, 2011 03:48pm
In my two visits to Pakistan in 2004 & 2006 , I made this observation that free supply & open display , use of arms is also major reason for unrest in Pakistani society . Pakistan has proportionately very high ratio of arms ( legal & illegal ) ownership per capita as compared to other countries
Ejaz
Jun 29, 2011 04:03pm
We have ourselves created these Frankestines and now when their hands started to reach our neck we started to cry for help. But is this foreign aid and military help a Trojan Horse is a mistry for me.
Mohammad Ali Khan
Jun 29, 2011 04:04pm
Let us start a movement now.Let us promise to ourselves that we will live honestly,show patience and discipline in our daily lives,promote meritocracy,don't indulge in bribing,keep our streets and neighborhoods clean by not throwing trash around,not be narrow minded and feel superior to followers of other religions.Respect all and be civil.Participate collectively in civic activities and duties of a good citizens. Terrorism can,t be defeated.It can be displaced through good conduct.
Ashok Sharma
Jun 29, 2011 04:32pm
This article has caught the eye of Indian readers including myself. Well but the anguish and the melancholy expressed is true and I feel regretted with Siddique on this. I wish to have a better neighborhood and wish betterment for the people of Pakistan, truly. Let's even try to be human first and then take the paths of being in a religion.
Kuppuji
Jun 29, 2011 04:45pm
Yes, i am perturbed by the use of the word "harps." "India harps on 26/11." I have also seen several Pakistani commentators describing the Mumbai massacre as "the Mumbai INCIDENT.!" I dont think thee people are doing a service to their country by just minimising atrocities elsewhere and exaggerating those on their own soil.
Kuppuji
Jun 29, 2011 04:54pm
I am disturbed when commentators Pakistani or otherwise, dismiss Indian concerns about Mumbai 26/11 as just "harping." I have also read Pakistani columnists describing the Mumbai massacre as just "the Mumbai incident."
Vijay
Jun 29, 2011 05:29pm
Guys, please understand Malik's sarcasm. He is imitating what would a politician or extremist leader would say to the common innocent Pakistanis.
suman
Jun 29, 2011 06:42pm
Read your story, I really feel sorry and my heart crying for Brothers & Sisters. You have every things, please understand present situation and manage your house, you have steel time, forget passed I am sure you Pakistan will be a great neighbour. Forget about rest of the world and just think of your Pakistan.
Peace Lover
Jun 29, 2011 10:26pm
Is it there any the peace lovers here can form a peace group and increase people contact between the two countries? The politicians have had 60 years and have ruined everything. Only a ground movement can make a difference. Can all this energy on these blogs be channeled into constructive action? Any volunteers? Can Dawn provide a forum for peace lovers to connect?
Qurat-Ul-Ain Syedain
Jun 29, 2011 11:07pm
Very well written
Nishaa
Jun 29, 2011 11:45pm
A very thorough and feeling post, we need more like you here :) (y)(y)
shahid
Jun 30, 2011 05:30am
The only solutions are education, land reform, transparent governance and punishment of the corrupts
rehmat
Jun 30, 2011 11:02am
When India does offer help e.g. at the time of floods, Pak chooses not to accept it. I agree that India should not attempt to destabilise Pak. I do not believe it is doing that either. If it was, I would also speak up against that. I just present facts as I see them. I am proud to be an Indian Muslim. While on one hand I will never compromise on my faith, I will also not be disloyal to my motherland. When terrorism from Pakistan affects my country I am perturbed just like any other Indian. My faith is a non-negotiable matter for me but it is personal. The fact is that like me most other Muslims do not believe in the concept of the Ummah where our loyalty to Muslims in other countries is higher than our loyalty to our own country.
rehmat
Jun 30, 2011 11:09am
Indians understand that there were two root causes to the Khalistan insurgency : Indira Gandhi's manipulative propping up of Bhindranwale to weaken Akali Dal who were her political opponents and simultaneous support by Pakistan to Khalistanis. Indira Gandhi paid with her life for her choices. And Pakistani leadership too has acknowledged the role they played. Operation Blue Star happened in 1984 after years of attacks on civilians from militatnts hiding in the Golden Temple.By no means did it cause the insurgency. Likewise in Kashmir, Rajob Gandhi manipulated the election in Kashmir state in 1987 and around the same time Pakistan also started pushing terrorists large scale into India - a fact that is now widely acknowledged by Pakistanis themselves. Hence India is trying to address both root causes. On th eone hand protecting its border better to prevent infiltration and on other hand has been ensuring that elections in Kashmir are free and fair.
rehmat
Jun 30, 2011 11:17am
Punjab insurgency started in 1980. The GOlden Temple incident happened in 1984. So it is incorrect to say that the GOlden temple entry led to the insurgency. It is 100% accurate to say that it led to Indira Gandhi's death at the hands of her own guards.
Owais
Jun 30, 2011 02:08pm
Sorry to say it rehmat but you have totally changed the topic from what is going on to what indian muslims should do..Where have i mentioned that only indian muslims should support Pak. I dont get it that why are you bringing this muslim and hindu stuff into this discussion, it is good that you are a proud indian muslim and that is what you should be.
rehmat
Jun 30, 2011 11:51pm
I do not think I have changed the subject. You said 'we' should support Pak. My point is that I will support Pak during natural calamity. When people in Pakattack my country, my support will be with my country not co-religionists. I don't think I referred to Hindus anywhere. I was making it simply clear that Pakistanis should not expect support from Indian Muslims like myself on issues that are against India basedon ummah concept which is popular there. But for all other issues we heartily suport Pakistan.
rehmat
Jul 01, 2011 12:03am
It is true that a lot of Indians do feel that partitioning India in 1947 basedon the theory that Hindus and Muslims could not live together (that is the core of the 2 nation theory) was wrong. Definitely Indian Muslims felt that way and hence stayed behind. Our elders also feel that this has led to a lot of money that couldhave been spent on social welfare being spent in defence related expenses. Plus the millions of Hindus and Muslims who died at the partition are a sad loss of life. But I think most Indians who feel that partition should not have happened in 1947 have NO desire to undo it now. The 2 countries have taken a very different path and you wil find very few supporters for undoing partition even amongst those who disagreed with teh 2 nation theory.
rehmat
Jul 01, 2011 12:10am
Well said Rizwan. This is why secularism is best even for Pakistan where most people are Muslim. It allows each individual to follow the version of Islam that they believe in without worrying that that the state will adopt some other version and trample over their rights. Naturally thisapproach willalso make life more liveable for the 5% non-Muslim Pakistanis. The notion that secular is a synonym for atheist iswrong. Secular applies to organs of state. Individuals in secular countries likeIndia and USA can be and usually are highly religious. No contradiction there.