Pakistan committed to result-oriented dialogue with India: FO
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ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office (FO) on Tuesday said in a statement that Pakistan firmly believes that the final direction of the Jammu and Kashmir issue should be in accordance with the will of the Kashmiri people.
The FO added that this will be determined through a free and impartial plebiscite under the UN's authority, as expressed in relevant Security Council resolutions.
The statement comes as a response to a question referring to the Indian spokesperson's remarks regarding consultations with the Kashmiri leaders.
"Kashmiris are important stakeholders as they are the ones required to exercise their right to self-determination," the FO spokesperson Tasneem Aslam said in a statement.
She added that Pakistan remains committed to a sustained, unconditional and result-oriented dialogue with India, to discuss all outstanding issues, including the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir.
She reiterated that said Pakistan has all along maintained that dialogue between Pakistan and India is important for peace, economic development and welfare of the people of South Asia.
Read: Hurriyat has no place in talks with Pakistan, says India
A spokesperson for the Indian Ministry of External Affairs on Monday said there is no place for a third party in the dialogue process with Pakistan.
"Let me reiterate there are only two parties and there is no place for a third party in resolution of India-Pakistan issues. The only way forward to proceed on all outstanding issues is a peaceful bilateral dialogue within the framework of Simla Agreement and Lahore Declaration," the spokesperson had said.
This statement is seen as a response to Pakistan's High Commissioner to India Abdul Basit's remarks on Monday, when he underplayed his meeting with Hurriyat leaders in New Delhi, according to Times of India.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:08pm
Dialogue? What dialogue? Kashmir is indian territory. Stop flattering yourself by talking about dialogue.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:11pm
The similar rights shud be given to all provinces of Pakistan also.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:16pm
Its a catch-22 situation. If Pakistan refuses to accept Shimla agreement and Lahore Declaration, it will be assumed that any future agreement it aspire to sign will meet the same fate. So no need for further discussion. If it accepts those agreements, than there is no need for any further discussion and agreement, as the solutions for the existing problem is spelt out in those agreements.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:20pm
Very good job FO for your quick and fiery responses to your counterparts.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:25pm
"Kashmiris are important stakeholders as they are the ones required to exercise their right to self-determination,"
Now, this includes the Kashmiris of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir too right?..Otherwise this would be pure hypocrisy lol. I wonder when we're all going to hear about a referendum on whether or not the poor people there want to stay bound to pakisthan..
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Mar 24, 2015 05:27pm
If there are only "two parties" in "resolution of India-Pakistan issues" then regarding the core-issue of Kashmir, the Kashmiri masses and there leaders are not a party to the deliberations and finally a resolution.
They are just one of the "important stakeholders".
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Mar 24, 2015 05:39pm
Ok. then talk to Government of India.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:40pm
@awais ali fiery response amounts to breast beating and a match of who shouts loudest ... an customary characteristic of the previous Congress government, these salvos dont and wont intimidate the Modi government in India .... as is potrayed by its statements and refusal to have any discussions with Pakistan
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Mar 24, 2015 06:49pm
There is no end to these narrations on both side. Let people of both countries go to dogs but leaders ego need to be satisfied.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:56pm
What result oriented talk?
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Mar 24, 2015 06:57pm
Why do "AZAD KASHMIRIS"carry Pakistani Currency and Pakistani Passports
if they are azad from Pakistan ?
What type of azadi is this ?
Can any non-azadi Kashmiri Pakistani like a Punjabi or a Pashtun
settle and run a business in Azad Kashmir without any pre-conditions ?
If yes,what type of azadi is this ?
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Mar 24, 2015 07:09pm
Not going to happen.
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Mar 24, 2015 07:18pm
I used to be one for 'kashmir is ours and no deal on it'. But overtime Reading such forums as this, I have come to realize, what if ' all of kashmir was resolved' and allowed to vote their choice, to either join Pakistan or India , but then citizens from the other country could visit it without hassle. This way all three parties would have peace and no threat of war.
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Mar 24, 2015 07:28pm
@peace Thats already been done in 1947 and they all chose Pakistan. However the fate of Kashmir and Hyderabad Deccan which are now part of India have never been decided. They are disputed territories.
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Mar 24, 2015 07:36pm
India and Pakistan have hugely different levels of tolerance. "..dialogue between Pakistan and India is important for peace, economic development and welfare of the people of South Asia." the day Pakistan replaces the words 'people of South Asia' with 'people of Pakistan' in their standard response thats when there will be any progress towards peace on the Indian sub continent Or else this staus quo can unfortunately continue indefinitely.
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Mar 24, 2015 07:39pm
This is a good statement. Kashmir which is part of India has an elected government and they have spoken in the last elections. I believe Modi and Doval are having back channel chats with Pakistani establishment to accomplish something which no other government on either side of the border has so far
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Mar 24, 2015 07:50pm
You are one of two parties, isn't it in your hand to produce results? The time of postures is over. Either be practical and realistic or loose relevance.
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Mar 24, 2015 08:02pm
We need to be careful. If we are not involving united nations in our negotiations with India in some ways, we too are helping India to say – united nations are not necessary
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Mar 24, 2015 08:35pm
The last bvit of your this headline says it all! You're no serious!~!! :D
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Mar 24, 2015 08:44pm
I agree that Kashmiris are important stakeholders & their representatives should be included in talks. Those representatives are the government of J&K whom the people have elected with a large turnout & not the Hurriyat who are supported by a very small proportion of Kashmiris. And if we are going to talk about the "right to self determination", then lets talk about giving the same right to the people of Baluchistan as well.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:23pm
Unbending stance never become result oriented. You have to flexible to be fruitful !
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Mar 24, 2015 09:29pm
modi is not vajypayee and Nehru. he work on his principal
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Mar 24, 2015 09:32pm
@Jason L: Jason, better talk some sense when you have a liking to visit a Pakistani news site.
Kashmir was never an integral part of India, otherwise there would have been no reason to have Article-370 in your Constitution.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:39pm
A meaningful dialogue with India will happen only when Mr.Basit will stop going to the houses of the separatists instead of bridging the gap of uncertainty between India and Pakistan.If we see the voting in your esteemed newspaper on this subject,we find that most of your paper's readers view the dialogue as impossible because of the prevailing conditions which is true.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:39pm
@DareDevil : Every agreement has its utility validation period!
Just google and see what was Algiers Accord of 1981 between Iran and the US and what became of it within hours of its signing.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:42pm
@Ezekiel Who do you want represent these important stakeholders in the talks?
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Mar 24, 2015 09:44pm
@sallu date of UN sponsored plebiscite.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:45pm
@sallu : Talks with all necessary home-work that would effectively plug all loop-holes before proceeding to the talks.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:47pm
@DareDevil Simla defunct as it was based on 'resolving the kashmir is due within reasonable time'. 44 years on is reasonable time, elapsed. It now reverts to UNSC resolution. Lahore declaration was to resolve it, Musharaf gave Vajpayee a formula, he accepted but the extremists like Advani and Indian FO scuttled it, so that's the end of that.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:46pm
@sallu That means the same old result as in the past for over 65 years.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:48pm
@Jason Kashmir is the disputed territory patly controlled by India and Pakistan.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:49pm
@awais ali We have no other job than raising such irrelevant issues. India keeps such issues away and instead paces towards development. That is why the IMF has poised such a growth rate for India's economy. We should move from such issues and instead develop pakistan so that she can be competitive with her neighbours.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:50pm
@peace Kashmir is not a province it has a special status.
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Mar 24, 2015 10:54pm
@M.Saeed - Sir. You hit the nail on the head.What about the Durand Line Agreement and its vaklidity?
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Mar 24, 2015 10:59pm
@Northern lights Yes Kashmir means the entire Kashmir.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:11pm
@Ezekiel Kashmiris are the ones who should be given the opportunity by both the parties to decide their future according to UN RESOLUTION, so they should be deciders and not the stake holders.
In the first place the whole Kashmir should have been Part of Pakistan on the basis of Muslims majority, injustice to Pakistan was done right from the 1st day it was created.
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Mar 24, 2015 11:17pm
@M.Saeed Pakistan has to be absolutely firm on its stand, be strong like indestructible rock and never compromise on principles.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:20am
@Jollyjoe : Durand Line is just an arbitrary executive order of the British, while the letter of allegiance from Maharaja Hari Singh to Lord Mountbatten was written and signed 3 days after the due date under duress in the presence of Mountbatten and Nehru, in most unethical manner by back dating the records.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:26am
Pakistan should show the worl, how it is managing the present states. Every one is fighting to separate from Union of un-equals.
Kashmir is for from dreams.
Pakistan needs to develop the Present, not future
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Mar 25, 2015 12:33am
let us hope that both governments are sincere this time
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Mar 25, 2015 01:12am
Let us talk about trade. It will be beneficial for the betterment of both countries.
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Mar 25, 2015 02:16am
You have nailed failure of talk before it began!! The reality. India is secular. It has muslim/hindu/sikh majority areas. No one can allow religion/cast based determinants for self rule. Your demand put death blow to Indian cherished values. Kashmir is bordering Pakistani. So this argument is convenient to Pakistan. Suppose such a concentration is inside the mainland India how could it exist. Bangladesh and Afghan experience has revealed the fact religion is not nation hood, though it it may assist. Pakistan can not withdraw from occupied areas. China will not vacate the gifted land. The scope of talk, it sees, is a public perception management. No substance in it. Can we resolve smaller problems . No we don't because it is Kashmir that make political existence in Pakistan.
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Mar 25, 2015 02:34am
@M.Saeed Very Good answer. Flexibility is the name of game
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Mar 25, 2015 03:28am
As much as Pakistanis like to focus on Kashmir for reasons of possession of the origins of water resources Kashmir is not the only problem to be resolved between India and Pakistan. Religion and trade have long been the main ingredients of the problems under consideration. Now many other more cultural and environmental factors cannot be ignored. The evolution of conflict resolution seems to have gained much momentum from technology so ardently encouraged by capital.
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Mar 25, 2015 03:48am
JNK has a fully functional democracy. It is not a puppet govt. All parties including Congress and BJP have to work hard to win votes. Will of the people prevails.
Furthermore, India is progressing and will continue on that path irrespective of any hurdles from Pakistan.
Pakistan should also focus on developing its economy instead on wasting time and energy on a un-resolvevable dispute.
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Mar 25, 2015 05:30am
@M.Saeed Article 370 is for J&K. India has similar special status for other states such as Himachal Pradesh and they are integral part of India. Interestingly Houriyat leaders have bought property in Delhi but will not allow people from Delhi to buy property in Srinagar. Does it make sense?
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Mar 25, 2015 05:31am
I am a Pakistani. Why not adopt a formula of Musharaf era that was accepted by both India and Pakistan and was nearly going to be implemented but ...
I would think a solution that's acceptable to both parties shall come from India and Indian shall work hard for its implementation once agreed!
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Mar 25, 2015 06:05am
And the infinite loop starts again...
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Mar 25, 2015 06:08am
@Abu-Salmaan sorry brother! Kashmir is not disputed territory. It's an integral part of India. However, please feel free to dream on about it!
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Mar 25, 2015 10:24am
@all Indian friends, please stop saying 'Pakistan occupied Kashmir' because there is no such thing. We don't have any separatists in Azad Kashmir. Have you ever heard anyone say even on social media that anyone from Azad Kashmir wants Independence? NO. They are already free and prosperous.
On the other hand there are many people in Indian occupied Kashmir that don't want to be a part of India.
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Mar 25, 2015 12:49pm
@Zak : Sir, please read the Simla agreement again and let us know where it "promised" to solve the Kashmir "issue".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simla_Agreement
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Mar 25, 2015 03:07pm
@Madan - A meaningful dialogue will happen when you stop whinging!
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