'Quit India' notice issued to Pakistani family
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Five members of a Pakistani Hindu family were taken into custody in the Indian state of Kerala's Kollam city by Karunagapally police for traveling without permission and without proper documents.
According to Indian news website, The Times of India, the family was produced before City Police Commissioner Debesh Kumar Behera on Saturday where they were served with a 'Quit India' notice under the Foreigners Act.
"There are no allegations against them. They were booked for visa violation. They will be produced before court next morning," Debesh Behera said.
The arrested Pakistanis, reportedly hailing from Balochistan province, included a man Kishore Kumar, his wife, and three children.
Kumar's family had stayed back in Pakistan during partition whereas his wife, who belonged to Ulhasnagar area in Thane district of Indian Maharashtra state, had moved to Pakistan after marrying Kishore.
The family had arrived in India on a tourist visa to visit their relatives and were issued permission to travel only within Thane district of Maharashtra.
Police sources said that the family was travelling without passports which was also a violation of the Foreigners Act in addition to their travel outside Thane district of Maharashtra.
Kumar and his family were accompanied by his brother-in-law, an Indian citizen, and were travelling to Amritapuri city in Kerala state in order to visit Mata Amritanandamayi Math when the math authorities found out that the family was travelling with improper documents and informed the police about the incident.
Police registered a case against the family and would later produce them before the Karunagapally Magistrate Court today where the family's date of departure would be decided.
Those served with 'Quit India' notice are normally given a week's time to leave the country.
Kumar claimed to be a devotee of Amritanandamayi and said that he had been attending her programmes abroad as well.
He also said that he was not unaware of the mandatory laws regarding the Foreigners Act.
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Aug 11, 2013 05:48pm
This is where we have arrived - when a visitor from a neighboring country is allowed to travel to a specific city only, and can be arrested if he/she ventures outside this perimeter!
One can understand that between Pakistan and India getting the visa itself might be difficult, but to prevent legitimate visitors from traveling around is self-defeating.
I am sorry for the Pakistani family.
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Aug 11, 2013 06:21pm
If he has overstayed his allowed time in India, is this really a news worthy item?. I don't know what the issue is here?. Why do Pakistanis specialise in overstaying anywhere, and I do mean everywhere. Stay for the period allowed and don't wait for anyone to kick you out of their country. It is embarrassing for everyone who travels on Pakistani passport.
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Aug 11, 2013 06:22pm
"Pakistani" family, yeah, right.
Well, in a technical sense, yes; in fact, in any sense, yes; yet, in a weird way, the headline is sensationally misleading.
It is heartening to know that Dawn is interested in the welfare of Pakistani citizens of the Hindu fold, regardless of their religious persuasion, especially in - gasp! - India.
A classic example of cheap journalism.
Mohammed Ali Jinnah's soul will be pleased.
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Aug 11, 2013 06:32pm
Why at all the person along with family from Baluchistan, Pakistan was violating the law and travelled without passport, improper documents and violated the terms of visa! The should learn the rules of discipline to live and respect for law not only in their own country first and foremost and more importantly the laws of the country they are visiting of their own choice. The deserved to be accountable not only according to law of the country now visiting if violation so manifest and also when come back to be answerable before the law of their own country for breaking the law here even.
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Aug 11, 2013 06:34pm
The family went to India and stayed there thinking that they were Hindus and the country they were visiting is a Hindu country. On the other hand Indians served them a notice of "Quit India" thinking that the family came from Pakistan so they were Muslims from a Muslim country. Our ancestors thought Muslims and Hindus can't live together in the same country so they divided the country, now we see that they cant live even as good neighbors!. Now Pakistan would do a similar tit for this tat, and this precedence would continue placing brick over brick to build this wall higher and higher between these two nations or countries (whatever) ! Did partition solve any problem?
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Aug 11, 2013 06:49pm
The British were asked to "quit India" but took for ever to leave.
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Aug 11, 2013 07:10pm
@sumit mazumdar:
Thank you my reasonable Indian neighbor. Your rational stance is appreciated.
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Aug 11, 2013 07:12pm
@sumit mazumdar:
No pakistani inside india. no visa for pakistani.
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Aug 11, 2013 07:19pm
Pakistani Hindus are persecuted in Pakistan for being Hindus and persecuted in India for being Pakistani. Many stayed in Pakistan because of no choice. They can not undertake spiritual journey.
I am sure there are many valid reasons for restrictions and ignorant Pakistanis did not leave any option for India.
How can you deal with a country and its people who killed their own on their holiest day and that too in the name of same religion?
What a dilemma for India?
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Aug 11, 2013 07:21pm
Victims of the recent tension between Pakistan and India.
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Aug 11, 2013 07:57pm
All the respected Hindu families travelling to India and wishing to stay back there should take a lesson from this quit India order and understand well that inspite of all odds they will never be told to quit Pakistan on the ground of being minority. There could be some mis-guided peoples creating problems for them but the majority including the government favours their peaceful & happy stay in Pakistan. Come back home.
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Aug 11, 2013 08:12pm
@Sumit: It is not as if we have "arrived" here. It has been this way - city specific - right from the beginning, on a reciprocal basis. There have even been instances of people landing at an airport of a city other than the one they were to visit, and going back by the return flight, since it was not permitted as per "rules".
So, conclusion: we need visionary people at the helm to take bold steps for this. Let us hope for the best, and prepare for the worst.
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Aug 11, 2013 08:45pm
OMG,We r not supposed to do it with Hindus.Where will they go??will congi serve same notice to bangladesis???
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Aug 11, 2013 09:08pm
India is heartless. These HIndus of Pakistan should be given asylum on humanitarian basis.
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Aug 11, 2013 09:11pm
@sumit mazumdar:
I don't agree with the strict visa rules, but at the same time a visa violation is a visa violation. What's the point of a visa system if visa recipients aren't going to follow the rules? What's being done is only fair.
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Aug 11, 2013 09:34pm
Is this a coincidence that Pakistan related issues are being fanned by the media across India? It's election year folks & the right wingers will do everything to demonstrate to the local Indian voter how to get tough with the Pakistani's be it this or border or whatever else they can imagine. in all this, the human reality & desire to have a normal neighborly relation is the real victim.
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Aug 11, 2013 10:14pm
@sumit mazumdar:
you are sorry for them because they are hindus
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Aug 11, 2013 11:16pm
Its visa violation , applicable to every foreigner.... Unfortunate that he is a Pak National , The law cant be bend !
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Aug 11, 2013 11:29pm
Denying a Hindu Pakistan his right to visit a religious site or a holy man is violation of basic human rights. India should be ashamed of this.
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Aug 12, 2013 12:00am
@sumit mazumdar:
This is your Bharat!! The biggest democracy!! ha!
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Aug 12, 2013 12:00am
They overstayed their visa, and have been asked to leave. Why is that news?
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Aug 12, 2013 12:52am
For what its worth, hopefully people will see that there's no difference in applying the law (howsoever paranoid) for Hindus or Muslims. Both are treated equally badly. :-)
By the way, the travel to specific cities happens on both sides of the border.
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Aug 12, 2013 02:08am
Why the family was not taken the permission before visiting Kerala,They might have thought that they can foolish the country.:).
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Aug 12, 2013 02:34am
Pakistan Embassy in Delhi should extend necessary help to the Pakistani family and try to get this harsh notice withdrawn. It must have been very difficult for the family to raise money for a trip to India. Ordinary citizens of India and Pakistan very often become victim of volatile relations between the two countries. The mindset has to change.
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Aug 12, 2013 04:09am
India and Pakistan are neighbors, so close and so far away.
Two rivers running parallel but never meet.
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Aug 12, 2013 04:50am
There goes so called Hindu Peace loving country.
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Aug 12, 2013 05:51am
@sumit mazumdar:
What a way to be fair to God's children no matter which country they belong to! Is this the way to have peaceful relations between the two countries? As Gandhi said, "Eye for an eye will soon make us all blind."
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Aug 12, 2013 08:28am
When you're from Pakistan, it's a concern for India since there have been several instances of Pakistani citizens travelling to India to conduct terrorist activities. India can't know who's a terrorist and who's not. So it's in their best interest to document all visitors from Pakistan and to discourage people who violate the rules.
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Aug 12, 2013 09:40am
This headline is false and misleading. You are giving the impression that a Pakistani family is being given (unfair) marching orders, when in fact they have broken the law of the land, relating to passport ans (possibly) Police reporting.
The real irony is that Pakistanis are 'Quitting' Pakistan, every day, due to religious intolerance, economic hardships, and insecurity. Perhaps these are the cases which should be making headlines?
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Aug 12, 2013 10:14am
Well ,it aint an issue to be reported on the front page of a newspaper like this.
Its not a big deal and Any country would do the same if a visitor is found with out passport.These kind of news should never ne hyped this much.
Times of india and Dawn need to know where the draw the line.
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Aug 12, 2013 10:47am
Such cases where no harm to the country can be expected should be considered sympathetically. After all they have come to visit a Math where they expect to get solace from the humdrum worldly life. To deny them is really cruel.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:21am
A friend's wife(pakistani) arrived in india on an entry visa more than a year ago and had applied for extension on the grounds that she wanted to stay with her husband and kids who are all indian citizens. Till date, she hasn't received an approval/denial from the authorities inspite of repeated followup through various channels. One wonders if this is nothing but pure harassment meted out to pakistani citizens.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:25am
This is shameful!
Hindus belong to India, no matter which nation are they born in. Pakistani Hindus got a raw deal at Partition and they deserve to come back to India, if they wish to.
The Police should take a humanitarian view of it and let this matter go. The courts should provide a way for the Pakistani Hindus and Sikhs to find permanent residence-ship in India.
There should be legislation which allows this.
The Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan AND Bangladesh deserve to come back home. They will eventually be wiped off, they form only 1% of the population in Pakistan, in a decade or 2 they will all be gone.
In the name of Secularism and Political Correctness, we have become inhuman.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:50am
Poor family. Always the poor suffer. When elephants fight only the grass gets trampled. Sad. Come on India, be large hearted.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:55am
India government should give a open invite to all Hindus staying in Pakistan to come to India and live here as Indians. Citizenship should be granted on arrival. Pakistan is no place for the minorities. Christians, Hindus, Ahmedias, Shias and other tribal minorities are the most victimized in Pakistan. Pakistan is a country that humiliated a Nobel prize winner. Least said of lesser mortals the better.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:57am
@sumit mazumdar:
Pakistan is the epicenter of Global terror. We have to be doubly careful who we let in and linger on in India due to the law and order aspect.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:59am
@samhit:
Its not harrassment but public apathy that each side enjoys the suffering of the other and supports their leadership when they take such actions for private and political gain...if people were sensible then the leadership of both countries would never indulge in such non-sense...just fear and sadistic pleasure in treating the people of other side badly is what has made the life of such people caught in the cross-fire a living hell!!
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Aug 12, 2013 01:28pm
God forbid if the family caught was 'Muslim' they would be charged with all types of terrorists laws. since its a 'hindu family' they are only charged with 'Foreigners Act'
M not anti India as i too have families on the the other side of the border but ...
Believe it or not ... This is fact..
True face of 'Secular India'....
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Aug 12, 2013 01:34pm
Its not just Hindus. Everybody in the Land of the pure is trying to leave as life has become unbearable.
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Aug 12, 2013 01:43pm
For a Pakistani Hindu, going or traveling to India might be a dream fulfilled. It is good & OK but for most of Pakistanis, it has no attraction. We have seen pictures of Taj Mahal in National Geographic magazine, good enough.
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Aug 12, 2013 01:43pm
this is a small spark to increase tension in the region by india - christians of pakistani origion holding foreign passport are denied indian visa or are told to wait for 6 to 9 months for approval - total harrassment
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Aug 12, 2013 01:43pm
@Anoop:
There is no such thing as 'Hindus belong to India'.
Pakistani Hindus are our brothers, and if they chose to be a Pakistani, the are not Indians any longer. You're utterly mistaken.
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Aug 12, 2013 01:51pm
What happens if we travel to Dubai wo visa or breach their law - just because we are Muslims should they spare us ??
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Aug 12, 2013 02:19pm
@Anoop:
it is your comment thats shameful! hindus can live wherever they want to .
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Aug 12, 2013 02:20pm
I wonder why timesofindia forgot to break this news
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Aug 12, 2013 02:43pm
Both India and Pakistan Governments should make immigration rules a bit human-centered for the inhabitants of these countries regardless their religion, caste, or creed without compromising their security concerns. Any way individuals who could pose security risk to any one of these countries might not be travelling through normal routes and genuine documents.
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Aug 12, 2013 03:16pm
@Malik:
How does some one knows about them without documents,what ?if they want to blow the math
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Aug 12, 2013 04:07pm
If India is serious about the foreigner staying without visa and passport then. They should take the action against Bangladeshi those were 50 millions lives in India illegally. In Mumbai alone there are 50,000 Bangladeshi lives illegally. Because they are the Muslims and they are the Vote bank for UPA.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:29pm
@Imraan Mehmood:
Imraan Bhai: I am not a Hindu.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:39pm
India would not let this family stay in India but would allow cheap Pakistani actors to stay and work in India Why? because this family does not have Pakistani sponsors like Bhatt family?
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Aug 12, 2013 07:53pm
Didn't know Dawn could be biased like this. They've overstayed their visa so they have to leave. Happens everywhere. Besides, I'm not sure they're treated any better in Pakistan.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:59pm
Citing the untoward incidents people travelling without valid incidents are bound to be stopped. Especially if its about indo pak.
Better get valid Visa and do what you want
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Aug 12, 2013 09:57pm
@sumit mazumdar:
how do you decide the legitimacy of some one from a hostile country?
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Aug 12, 2013 10:08pm
Are these restrictions applied to Indian Nationals in Pakistan? Are these restrictions applied to US Nationals in India and Pakistan? If not then these restrictions are discriminatory in my judgement. I am married to a Pakistani national, and we both faced hurdles when ever we visited each others country but this was not that strict in the nineties....but we had to get monthly visa extensions in Delhi and Karachi respectively with palm warming recipes!!! Thanks God we decided to settle in USA..........but i am sure will face hurdles if we visit each others countries in future!!!
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Aug 12, 2013 10:48pm
@samhit:
That's true. I know other Pakistanis who have been harassed by the Indian embassy. Forget Pakistanis, I'm a foreign national of Indian origin, and I've almost always had bad experiences dealing with the Indian embassy.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:24pm
@Eqbal Khan:
They are very close, but parallel.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:35pm
india and pakistan should sit down and discuss the plight of muslims in india and hindus/sikhs in pakistan.i think they should both agree to take back their respective religious communities once for all and enjoy the final brake up.we in india will be quite happy to receive all the hindus/sikhs
from pakistan and send all the muslims living in india. the sooner that is done the better for both countries.
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Aug 12, 2013 11:56pm
My wife was born in India, I was born in Pakistan. We live in the US and are naturalized US citizens. Last year, we had a daughter. My wife wanted to take the little girl to India so her parents can see the newborn. I could not go because I was busy at work. When my wife applied for an Indian visa for our daughter, the Indian embassy rejected it because they saw my 4 month old daughter as a threat to national security. The reason, her father was a Pakistani borh US citizen. Huh? I wasn't even travelling with them. So...I dolled out $500 and got the visa for my daughter. Yes, sir, it still works that way. I guess for the folks at the Indian Embassy $500 is worth more than national security. No wonder terrorists can get in and out of India so easily.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:05am
@Anoop:
When you are talking about being more humane, please don't drag religion into it. Anyone can stay here in India, if they so wishes - that's the legislation. That is just and humane.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:43am
@Malik:
Doesn't matter Hindu or Muslim, rules are rules. They could have easily taken permission or extended their stay.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:47am
@Masoud:
WOW ...Really....
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Aug 13, 2013 03:29am
@Shabbzz:
imagine that family getting caught in Pakistan, they would have been charged with spying and will be executed or will be tortured like sarbjit singh. its true
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Aug 13, 2013 03:31am
@Richard Ried:
very difficult for you to form a logical comment. feel sorry for you
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Aug 13, 2013 03:47am
@Yousaf:
you rather leave for Western countries but certainly not for India.
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Aug 13, 2013 03:49am
@Anoop:
Frankly no one is stopping them. Why don't they leave ?
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Aug 13, 2013 06:59am
@Ahmad N:
You don't know than how many come to India in the garb of visiting relatives, medical visits, conferences or pure travel. There aren't any Indians going in opposite direction other than to meet relatives or Sikhs visiting shrines.
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Aug 13, 2013 07:40am
I think there is no need to shout about this , the family has broken the law and they should be punished accordingly. if the family would have caught in other country for the sake of same law no one of you putting shout here would say anything then. Sorry for mistakes in language.
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Aug 13, 2013 08:10am
@Shabbzz:
Funny u say that in response to a story where India arrested Hindus for violating a law....quite ironic actually.
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Aug 13, 2013 08:53am
@samhit:
Do you say the same when your visa extension is rejected by US authorities? Every country is within its rights to allow/deny foreigners into its territory. The matter ends there.
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Aug 13, 2013 08:55am
India is crawling with Muslims who are closet Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who are a fifth column for Pakistan and China. Yet we deport a Hindu Pakistani who faces persecution in Pakistan ? Sonia Christian Maino and the Gandhi Nehru Robert Vadra : known agents of Nato and China.Jinnah must be laughing in his grave . This man Kumar will be dead in 24 hours if deported to Pakistan . Why not send him to Kashmir ?
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Aug 13, 2013 09:24am
@Shabbzz:
you mentioned "believe it or not" ok, we choose not to believe it.
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Aug 13, 2013 09:33am
Why is this thing even a news? Their visas expired, n they're supposed to leave. Simple. The officials are simply following the rules. Why so much importance to this silly news, and put headlines that show India in a bad light....
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Aug 13, 2013 10:35am
@Gerry D'Cunha:
That's the after effect of what David Headley aka Daood Gilani did on his visit to India
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Aug 13, 2013 11:20am
@Shabbzz:. I agree with you here. But I hope you know the reasons.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:02pm
@samhit:
This delay is not specific to Pakistani citizens.Its just plain lethargy from bureaucrats.My sister in Canada got her passport renewed after one and half years .The delay was due to the police clearance from Mumbai.On inquiry at the Mumbai police station. I was informed that the fax number provided by the Toronto consulate was not working.The idiots were trying to fax the report without first adding the international code for Canada.Of course it goes without saying that cash will speed the process
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Aug 13, 2013 12:08pm
This shows the true, secular and unbiased nature of India. We have uniform civil code irrespective of religion, caste or creed for people.
Your headline is misleading; leaves a negative picture about India, which is not the case.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:34pm
@Javed:
They can be allowed to remain in India but they have to file for visa extension or other channels. This is all the more important when visa is granted only for certain states only.
Why take a risk when this is Indo-Pak situation which can turn volatile any moment?
The Pakistani actors atleast have all gone through proper visa channels and am sure they follow the visa restrictions imposed on them completely.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:37pm
@Kulwant Kaur:
They have to file for visa extension or other channels possible. Rules are rules for whatever religions or nationals. No one gives an Open ticket visa based on religion.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:41pm
@Richard Ried:
In a democracy if you break the law ,you pay the price.Its immaterial that they are Hindus ,or on a pilgrimage.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:43pm
@ANSER AZIM:
Well... It is a common practice by all the countries of the world to ask visa overstayers to leave. Don't know what is the issue you are making. Americans also apply for due visa to India and are asked to leave i they overstay. To adhere to the law of land is the duty of all global citizens.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:52pm
@sumit mazumdar:
After Headley ,no one knows who is a legitimate traveller
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Aug 13, 2013 02:06pm
Everyone should respect the law of land
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Aug 13, 2013 04:44pm
Ahhh. If only Indians and Pakistani were allowed to travell freely.
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Aug 14, 2013 08:23am
@Yusuf:
Well said
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Aug 14, 2013 08:24am
@Imraan Mehmood:
Do not you all cry over Rohingya Muslims..
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Aug 14, 2013 09:11am
What is the big deal? A family of 5 Hindu of Pakistani origin over stayed! Can any one tell me how many illegal Pakistani & Bangladeshi Muslim infiltering India and staying all over? My maid in Delhi is a poor Bangladeshi Muslim. But posing as a Bengali Muslim from Indian state of West Bengal. In Delhi alone there are estimated over 5 lakh Bangladeshi Muslim are living illegally. India should give citizenship to all Pakistani Hindus and other non-Muslims who want to stay in India.
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Aug 14, 2013 10:38am
@indoaryan: we south Indian hindus and muslims live with peace and harmony,we are Dravidians..All the north indians get out from south India.
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Aug 14, 2013 02:47pm
@Shabbzz:
Was sarabjit killed in India or Pakistan
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Aug 14, 2013 03:14pm
@Imran Jiwani: why did you get thumbs down? it is sad that people don't believe in friendship and brotherhood between India and Pakistan
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Aug 14, 2013 03:24pm
We are brothers, we are one humanity. You, me and all of us. Who says we are Not. We breathe the same air, we live on same planet, we feel the same pain and we will all die and leave this place.
What you give is what you will get. This is the law to respect. That is why, give Love and Happiness no matter what. You will get it back with interest, my brothers. Hate No One! We don't need borders, boundaries and politics. Let us be free in our hearts and freedom will be forever yours and no one will take it away from you.
Have courage in your heart and compassion for all.
Let Peace rule the Earth.
Take Heart, brothers!
One God!
One Earth!
One Humanity!
My Love to you Forever
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