RAWALAKOT: Indian Border Security Forces (BSF) personnel were firing across the Line of Control (LoC) in Rawalakot’s Battal sector in the early hours of Monday morning, said a report published by Reuters.

A Pakistani army official said a civilian was killed as a result of “unprovoked Indian shelling” in the Battal, Chirikot and Satwal sectors, according to the Reuters report. A mortar shell fired by the Indian army exploded on a house in Battal sector’s Donga Gambhir area, killing a young man and severely injuring his sister.

The army official added that Pakistani Rangers responded with retaliatory firing. The exchange of fire between the two armies continued for several hours.

Earlier on Sunday, Pakistan accused Indian forces of violating the ceasefire agreement between the countries on two counts, said a report published by AFP. However, no casualties were reported in either incident.

Indian troops opened fire at a Rangers checkpost situated in Nakiyal sector on Sunday afternoon, Pakistani military sources claimed.

Pakistani military sources had earlier accused India of opening unprovoked fire on a Pakistani Rangers’ check post in the Sialkot sector on Sunday morning.

“Indian Border Security Forces resorted to unprovoked firing on Pakistani Rangers posts near Pukhlian, Head Marala area, in Sialkot sector,” an unnamed senior military official, told AFP.

Pakistan Rangers also resorted to retaliatory firing.

The exchange of fire continued for a few hours, but no loss of life was reported.

Following the attack, Rangers called for investigations to be launched into the incident.

Moreover the Indian news website, The Time of India reported on Sunday, that an Indian BSF soldier was injured in a sniper attack from the Pakistani side at Machial, northwest of Srinagar, in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Earlier on August 6, India accused Pakistani troops of involvement in an attack on an army post in the disputed Kashmir region in which five of its soldiers were killed.

The five were killed late Monday night at an outpost some 200 kilometres south of Srinagar, Indian officials said.

The Pakistan army however denied responsibility.

The Foreign Office rejected allegations of Pakistan’s involvement as “baseless and unfounded”, saying the country was committed to its ceasefire promises and wanted to resume peace talks with India soon.

Meanwhile, the Directors General Military Operations (DGMOs) of Pakistan and India on August 7 spoke over the hotline on the situation on the LoC, a UN-monitored de facto border dividing Kashmir between India and Pakistan.

Pakistan's DGMO Major General Ashfaq Nadeem strongly denied that Pakistani troops were involved in the killing of five Indian soldiers, adding that the accusations levelled against the country's soldiers were without foundation and utterly baseless, sources said.

Major General Nadeem moreover told his Indian counterpart that Pakistan wholeheartedly respected the ceasefire agreement with India.

On August 8, Pakistani military officials said Indian troops opened fire and seriously wounded a male civilian along the LoC.

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Nishant
August 11, 2013 1:33 pm

well, before coming to dawn i checked out timesofindia and according to indian government it was pakistan who open the fire, forgive me for not trusting pakistani side....they dont really have the best track record when it come to being honest.

V. C. Bhutani
August 11, 2013 3:02 pm

Pakistani newspapers say that Indian forces resorted to unprovoked firing. Indian newspapers say that Pakistani forces resorted to unprovoked firing. We have no means of knowing facts. But we do know that unless the two learn to speak in the language of decency and adherence to truth, there is no room for good India-Pakistan relations. This may have to do with the nature of governments in the two countries. At present in Pakistan the Army is blowing down the prime minister's neck and in India general elections are round the corner. If nothing disastrous happens in the next few months we should be grateful. But things may suddenly take a turn for the unpredictable. V. C. Bhutani, Edinburgh, 11 Aug 2013, 1102 GMT

Naved
August 11, 2013 3:18 pm

@Nishant : We do not trust India because they have a long track record of lying and blaming Pakistan for all their internal problems. Tell India to mind your own business

Gerry D'Cunha
August 11, 2013 3:21 pm

blame game of the 1965 and 1971 have started - God knows what the result would be this time - lessons not learnt from past mistakes

Abdullah
August 11, 2013 3:43 pm

Mr. Nishant have you been aware of information regarding Indian government being involved in the Bombay attacks, the attack on Indian parliament and the train bombings, etc. and you still believe the Indian rhetoric. Really?

Jamal
August 11, 2013 3:46 pm

@Nishant : Forgive me for not trusting the indian side, they don't have the best track record when it comes to being honest.

nakamma
August 11, 2013 3:46 pm

@Nishant : Why should we trust Indian govt word on this. Last time when Indian soldier was beheaded and India accused Pakistan. Pak said lets have an independent body like UN investigate the incident. India firmly rejected the offer. Why??

Nadir
August 11, 2013 3:56 pm

@Nishant : timesofindia also reported that Parliament and Mumbai attacks were done by the Indian government, how can India be trusted too?

Danny
August 11, 2013 4:20 pm

@Nishant : And who is the judge of judging your so-called "track-record"??.....I can always say the same for your "timesofindia" being a war-monger er

Aali
August 11, 2013 4:38 pm

@Nishant... another Indian Troll..

well the times of india also reported that Mumbai attacks were an inside job which is yet to be proven in court... remember samjhauta express where indian media blamed pakistan for the attacks and later it was found the Indian military personal were involved in it !!!!!!

BravoHind
August 11, 2013 4:58 pm

@Nadir : Really? Where did you read that? Perhaps some GEO TV news. Pakistani media really feeds you guys a very distorted view of the world .. Wake up!

GA (Indian)
August 11, 2013 7:08 pm

@Naved: Is anyone told you to trust India, but I do know that pakistani Army (Not citizens) are non-trust worthy. You must read about kargil war, also read 15 years history after 1947 when nation divided, as till 1955 or so no visa was required thought the nations were 2... Wise ppl always accept there mistakes so please do accept it. As i said I am not writing against pakistani citizens but against their Army. Max amount of ur tax money goes to them. They have nice house and villa´s. Have u ever ask yourself, Y a common pakistani wont have these, just because of ur shit army, who is playing with the soul and emotions of each and every pakistani...

S. Israr Ali
August 11, 2013 7:11 pm

Let the hand of friendship, cooperation, love, tolerance, compassion between two countries remain in tact and be further strengthened. Policy of confrontation has taken us to nowhere. We should learn lessons from country in GCC, EU blocks enjoying fruits of common strength as well as combination of various states to proudly call them, the United States of America. Pakistan geographically has four neighbours, one India, second Afghanistan, Third Iran and fourth sea. Except sea, we are not at ease with either of our neighbours. Why not at least the countries of sub-continent viz., India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and neighbours too live together in peace, harmony, respect to each, cooperation, love, fraternity, tolerance particularly when thousands of years co-existed and lived together with common heritage historically, politically, socially, ethnically, geographically, linguistically, culturally and economically and enjoy instead to waste the life in confrontations, threats, killings. Later with this block so formed, natural allies of centuries and partners Iran and Afghanistan may also join to form and known as world's ideal formidable alliance.

We should open our eyes of recent events in Pakistan where all round carnage even during Ramadhan with no respect to Muslim's holliest month followed by blasting peaceful unarmed worshippers in funeral in mosque turning all in blood bath that too on the eve of Muslim's annual festive occasion of Eidul Fitr. Who the beasts they are doing all this with impunity even in the holly month when it is said the satan is tied in iron shacles! Not only state forces but also common people are being targetted and vulnerable! Sometimes hundreds Hazaras slaughtered, sometime in the name of hatred against punjabi or so settlers are slaughtered in same Pakistan. As if all this carnage and mayhem abound, death and destruction dancing was not enough that now it has started on borders.

Our policies as dignified and sovereign nation should not be dictated by countries like Saudi Arabia or USA but should be guided in supreme interests of our own people as our recent turning away from already agreed and signed Gas Line Project from Iran suggests.

syed
August 11, 2013 7:44 pm

@nakamma:reason being that india wants to project itself as a superpower and doesnt want involvemnet of third parties in its issues in contrast pakistan has always been sharing shoulders with US , china , north korea , afghanistan

Shan
August 11, 2013 7:45 pm

@Gerry D'Cunha: Freedom of Blochistan

V. C. Bhutani
August 11, 2013 8:43 pm

I have read 11 comments, including my own earlier this morning. I don't want to talk about the disputation going on between Nishant and comment writers from Pakistan. Considering the 9 comments other than Nishant's and mine, all the rest seem to be dyed in Pakistani blue. It is indeed my observation that Pakistan press in general has been doing disservice to its people by giving them coloured or lop-sided view of things for the most part, even to the extent of blocking out reasonable comments in these columns when such comments were critical of Pakistan and its actions. I remain convinced that no one in Pakistan wants good relations with India, Nawaz Sharif's reasonable sounding words notwithstanding. Besides, perhaps he is in no position to implement his policy of good relations with India, if indeed that is his intention. It seems to me that whenever there is a prospect of India and Pakistan even talking about improving their relations, something happens and the whole thing is back in square one. Every time one more negative point is added to the agenda in terms of responsibility for that something. The list goes on getting longer. At this rate, there cannot be and shall never be better relations between the two countries. If this is the attitude on the Pakistani side, why don't we build an iron curtain between the two along the IB and LoC and choose to live in complete non-relationship? If things go on like this, somebody in one of the two countries will lose patience and begin proceedings which may not be altogether indicative of love of peace. If one side begins some such action, the other side will have no option but to respond in kind. Before we know, we may have another war on our hands: perhaps neither of us wants war at present. Or perhaps both do. There seem to be no reasonable persons, at any rate in Pakistan. In India a large number of people in the ruling party as well as in the opposition parties seem to be in an uncompromising state of mind that seems to push matters towards war. V. C. Bhutani, Edinburgh, 11 Aug 2013, 1642 GMT

Ahmed
August 11, 2013 8:47 pm

I am a Pakistani living in the US, Believe me people around the world distrust Pakistan. They do believe what Indian media say. Sorry state of Pakistan.

Faisal
August 11, 2013 8:58 pm

Pakistan should take the case of recent violations on porous LOC.After investigations it would be clear who is to blame.

nakamma
August 11, 2013 9:05 pm

@BravoHind: Have you seen Indian media. NDTV has 24/7 ticker running counting ceasefire violations by Pakistan without even mentioning once any violations from India. They are a news org and supposed to report news. One of the hosts embarrasingly addmitted to this fact after a Pakistani guest asked why they were not reporting violations by India. The host was quickly hushed up by Indian guests.

Ajay
August 12, 2013 1:11 am

Who really cares what Pakistani Military says?

Aditya
August 12, 2013 3:41 am

@Naved: We really really do. But we have these crazed animals next door who just won't leave us alone or the rest of the world too actually. Don't believe me? Try getting a visa for somewhere boy

Kiran
August 12, 2013 5:55 am

@Aali: It's funny. Pressure your Govt to take control from ISI/Army/Terrorists. It will be safe for you guys at your homeland to live peacefully. India wants safer and secured Pakistan as a neighbor, not a Country with full of Terrorists.

Gurie
August 12, 2013 6:12 am

Don't trust Indian and Pakistani print and electronic media. media from both sides play a big role to increase tension.

Yawar
August 12, 2013 7:25 am

Lets not blame each other and let an independent third party under the auspices of the UN do an investigation of the incident. Whichever side says no would mean they have something to hide.

riaz
August 12, 2013 9:24 am

@BravoHind: Same is very true for Indian media.........

Scott
August 12, 2013 9:41 am

With over half of the militants who attack in different parts of the world have had connections with Pakistan,why would India stage an attack to malign Pakistan????

Anisdesh, Mumbai
August 12, 2013 9:48 am

@nakamma: It is not the Govt of India, but the Supreme court of India has found that the persons behind Mumbai attack were from Pakistani citizens with LET link and hanged Ajmal Kasab( who were not at all a minister of India ofcourse) The Law had taken its due course and declared the truth. But you believe some psycho minded person said to have bluffed

VKINDIAN
August 12, 2013 9:50 am

Who started first the ceasefire....Will you please describe it...India and Pakistan Citizens Want Peace thats it....Govt. Of both the countries must seriously indulge in Talks...Live And Let Live..

Pardeep
August 12, 2013 10:12 am

@Nishant : Yes you are absolutely right

Sansan
August 12, 2013 10:59 am

Poor people of India and Pakistan - they are at the mercy of what their governments and military and irresponsible war mongering media feeds them :(. Feel sorry how common man of both India and Pakistan suffer from these... Both irresponsible governments and media...

Ali
August 12, 2013 11:10 am

Please don't mention occupied Kashmir as Indian administered Kashmir,, its Indian occupied Kashmir and we should not have any doubts about it.

Ravi Malhotra
August 12, 2013 11:45 am

Which side is true? Pakistan says India violated cease fire agreement. India says it is Pakistan. Some people in both the countries do not want peace to be a solution.

Wish if we could fight for developmental indicators.

Chichra
August 12, 2013 11:52 am

Always interesting to read what the news reports on the other side of the border. Wonder what the ground realities actually are... Though I doubt that India started this particular exchange (our army isn't a law to itself unlike the Pakistani one)

maq fida
August 12, 2013 12:02 pm

@Nadir : Unless u a dictatorship you cannot revel in the blood and tears of your own people...in a democracy it just cannot happen without people knowing...compare syria/china with any other democracy!! This is because the politicians have to face the same public come election time!!

Amir Bangash
August 12, 2013 12:48 pm

Nothing serious is happening in India except protests in IHK or a little move for just talks between the two countries and that do not warrant creating a situation on the LOC so the Indians should relax and must not kill the people.

Saravanan
August 12, 2013 12:52 pm

@S. Israr Ali: Yours is a voice of balance in a page (almost) full of mutual hatred. I don't understand my fellow Indian friends, who come to a Pakistani news website and spread hatred, which is of course reciprocated. For the sake of us and our children, let us all look forward to peace between our countries. From India...

Kushal
August 12, 2013 12:59 pm

This is madness. This is not bravery. This has to stop. Time has come for both countries to behave in civilized manner.

Jeet
August 12, 2013 1:04 pm

@Aali: The Times of India never reported that Mumbai was an inside job, what nonsense.

Ambastha
August 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Both the Government lie to the innocent people of India and Pakistan. They play with the emotions and rule us by dividing us. We fight for nothing. We're hopeless.

==
August 12, 2013 1:50 pm

@Saravanan: Read carefully they are not ,what u think!! you are so naive!! is it so hard to spot ur own ppl!!

Shankar
August 12, 2013 1:57 pm

There is a concerted effort to bring the countries to collision path and sabotage any peace initiatives. From India, it looks like the terrorists ( and may be the army ) are worried about peace with India, since it may erase the reason for them to exist. You need hate to precipitate action and you need an enemy to breed hate. I hope the leaders of both countries see through these games and ensure that the peace process is not given up again. We have to overcome the distrust, hate and treachery and work for peace! We owe it to our future generations! May God grant us teh wisdom!

dev
August 12, 2013 2:02 pm

@Ali: Similarly it is Pakistani Occupied Kashmir(including Gilgit and Baltistan) and not Azad Kashmir.

A Kashmiri
August 12, 2013 2:22 pm

I am happy to see indians want to read this rather than times of india

Sulaiman
August 12, 2013 2:23 pm

If the these will be the situation one day will come and Pakistan will be finished as the pakistan is facing Lot of internal problem of TALIBAN Pakistan has not to fear from India but From Internal prolem Allah Hafiz Sulaiman

jaya
August 12, 2013 2:26 pm

@S. Israr Ali: People are more concerned about after life,not worried about this life as this life is hopeless any way

Tanweer
August 12, 2013 2:46 pm

It is very sad to say that at this critical state Pakistan do not have Foreign and also the Defence Minster to boost the confidence of Nation. Our PM must think and appoint someone to lead these very important ministries.

jax
August 12, 2013 2:53 pm

@Naved:cut piece

Sansan
August 12, 2013 3:17 pm

War mongering governments and media on both sides - India and Pakistan. Poor common man from India and Pakistan caught in between :(

Sansan
August 12, 2013 3:19 pm

Tell me very honestly - what does a poor common man from India and Pakistan need? Food, shelter and clothing first. Both governments cannot do it for their large poor population. Instead war mongering and wasting money. Why would a common man who is hungry for food and struggling to feed family in India and Pak care a hoot to which way the line of control is laid and who is firing first ?

Ravi Ingale from Puner
August 12, 2013 3:56 pm

Pakistan always says where are the proofs?? Now India can ask what is the proof?? those killed it is from Indian side firing?

Amit
August 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Pakistan has got nothing to loose if a war happens. India has much at stake. So here lies the balancing point- Pakistan, after hitting can behave like a naughty boy 'I didn't hit anyone', whereas India govt. like a mature adult cannot undertake any severe action because of its after effects. India need to wait till Pakistan's political leaders get full powers and can provide decent livelihood opportunities to all their unemployed (currently on the rolls of Terrorist organizations). Until then, Indian scientist needs to develop satellites and drones for accurate bombing on the army unit(or terrorist) that fires on Indian territory. For research purposes, I'm sure India is still left with truck loads of money after political consumption(Read: Corruption) to invest in DRDO etc.

Haroon Gul
August 12, 2013 6:46 pm

thats not good

musab
August 12, 2013 6:58 pm

what is going,,,both countries must stop these non sense,,i see times of india reporting that pak violated cease fire..i dnt know which one is true,,but for the sake of humanity hate towards each other must be avoided.cos if they go for another war it will be a huge set back in south asia as both countries have powerful army n with army men civilians are also going to get killed

Omar
August 12, 2013 7:07 pm

People are dying on both side of the borders, for some it might be point scoring but for me it loss of precious lives and it can be only felt by the family of those people who are left behind. I am against killing of anyone be it Muslim or Hindu or from any other religion....my message, war is not the solution, hopefully both government will understand it soon.

Regards, Omar

zak
August 12, 2013 7:16 pm

One answer-UNMOGIP( UNITED NATIONS MILITARY OBSERVER GROUP INDIA PAKISTAN)-LET THEM SAY WHO was at fault. we know who will resist third party review as this will deny the perpetrator committing the crime and manipulating the information. one guess everybody!

ali panda
August 12, 2013 7:20 pm

This is just sad. Ya'll.

human
August 12, 2013 7:20 pm

@syed: O really!! U mean to say that US navy seals acted on info provided by ur govt in Abbotabad

Rahul
August 12, 2013 7:50 pm

@Aali: Was Kasab an Indian? Is Hafeez an Indian who plotted the whole plan?

Ravi
August 12, 2013 8:24 pm

@Saravanan: When someone from your family gets killed by some atankwadi than come pn this page and speak of peace.

meow
August 12, 2013 9:43 pm

@syed: the reason India dont want a 3rd party , is bcoz we dont want a civil war in this asia. dont you know India & Pak are largest importer of weapons and every weapons dealer in the world would be happy to have a MEGA store here. Look at history and see what is happening in Pak-AFGANSTAN after 3rd and 4th party were allowed in the region. Someday a lesson will be learnt

viv
August 12, 2013 10:00 pm

@Ahmed: even u dont seem to b confident of ur state... believe me

shobee
August 12, 2013 11:44 pm

@Shankar: well said shankar .pakistani nation is not suffering from war histeria.war cannot be the solution of any dispute.millions of people are living in utter poverty in india and pakistan.we must take solid steps to overcome these problems instead of accumulating lethal atomic weapons against each other.we must keep in mind the destruction of heroshima and nagasaki in case of atomic war.

raja hindustani
August 13, 2013 12:02 am

" Foreign Office rejected allegations of Pakistan’s involvement as “baseless and unfounded”

I have heard this sentence countless times in pak media in last several years.;)

Ahmed Abdullah
August 13, 2013 12:10 am

Notwithstanding the present hype, we need to understand across both sides of Pakistan-India border that around one billion people are deprived of acceptable standereds of living. We have a challenge at hand and both countries must rise above their differences to allow development of their poor masses. Political and military leaderships on both sides will have to give space to each other failing which there will be nothing but a disaster.

Rao
August 13, 2013 7:02 am

This is Pakistani way of welcoming UNSG Ban Ki Moon....How can they miss the chance of highlighting the dispute when he is there on their soil

asgher
August 13, 2013 5:26 pm

This is a drama played by Army of both sides. Peace between India and Pakistan means that there will be less money budgeted to feed the huge army of both sides. For sure no army on either side want to reduce its yearly budget so whenever there is some peace process progress they stage such incident to pull it back to zero

Hussain Agha
August 13, 2013 8:13 pm

@Amit:

Indians can't even build tanks. And besides, any "drone" of yours would blasted out of the sky ad turned to carbonized cremated form

Hussain Agha
August 13, 2013 8:20 pm

@Chichra: It was your army that kidnapped 5 Kashmiri villagers and that causes this tension with our side and Kashmiris on both sides! Introspect rather than cry.

noman1234
August 14, 2013 12:33 am

@V. C. Bhutani: Sir Jee with all due respect if you think that our media and press is doing a disservice by giving us a one-sided view you are mistaken. If you closely watch our current affairs programs and read our newspapers, you will see we have wide variety of opinion on any situation specifically India. Our Press are very critical of our Army and Govt when there is proper evidence against them and doesn't hesitate to bask them at all. Same goes for our experts and analyst who don't blindly take sides, and their rhetoric is never to please the masses watching them. On the other hand i have watched a lot of Indian News and current affairs program, and they are always in agreement with your Army and Govt when it comes to Pakistan. Their rhetoric is also to please the masses because they are afraid of being tarred as Pak agent. They don't rely on field reporting and investigative journalism and will blindly report whatever Army or Govt says about Pak. Hence they have a very Nationalist approach towards matters concerning Pakistan no matter how convoluted they are.

Shubs1
August 14, 2013 8:53 am

This is nothing but a power struggle between Nawaz Sharif and Kayani about who still calls the shots. With replacement imminent, Kayani wants to let Nawaz know that it won't be a walk in the park for him to just hand-pick a yes-man from the ranks as army chief. It will be a cold day in hell when the Pakistani Army changes its colors. This is deja vu all over again...same old, same old...

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