The UK news programme that took on MQM

Updated Jul 11, 2013 03:15pm
— Video grab from the programme 'Newsnight'.
— Video grab from the programme 'Newsnight'.

Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Mr. Altaf Hussain is being investigated for money laundering worth at least 400,000 pounds as well as for incitement to violence, The UK’s BBC Two programme ‘Newsnight’ reported on early Thursday morning.

The news was part of a short documentary prepared by Newsnight on the MQM, and included video clips of Mr. Hussain making violent statements, an outline of the death of assassinated party leader Imran Farooq, as well as interviews with a former MQM leader, a policeman accusing the party of murder, and party leader Farooq Sattar.

Starting out the show with a clip showing Mr. Hussain saying “We will prepare your body bags,” host Jeremy Paxman posed the question: “Supposing if it (Britain) was offering sanctuary to an organisation that was using Britain as a base from which to threaten and persecute others?”

He then described the MQM as “one of the most feared political organisations in Pakistan,” and said Mr. Hussain is accused of 30 murders here, which he denies.

The programme then showed the MQM chief’s house, with reporter Owen Bennett Jones pointing out that a police raid had taken place there earlier in connection with the Imran Farooq murder. Describing Mr. Hussain, he said “he exerts total control over his party” from London.

According to NewsNight, “The police found hundreds of thousands of pounds of unaccounted for cash and that led to a money laundering investigation.” The Metropolitan Police are also investigating “Whether he’s using his London base to incite violence in Pakistan,” and whether his speeches are a breach of the law.

According to a London-based terrorism barrister named Ali Naseem Bajwa, who was interviewed by BBC Two for the documentary, Mr. Hussain’s speeches are potentially a “terrorism offence” – The use of threat of force, made for a political cause, designed to influence the government “all seem to be made out” in the MQM’s chief’s case according to the barrister.

NewsNight then shows senior MQM leader Farooq Sattar saying, “I categorically deny and refute that Mr. Hussain would have ever said what you are saying,” after the reporter asks him about the MQM chief’s violent language. At the same time, the BBC programme shows Sattar sitting in the audience while Mr. Hussain speaks “about tearing open abdomens”.

The programme also showed an interview with an ex-MQM member, who was, according to them, the only former party member who was willing to talk. The ex-member, Naim Ahmed appeared openly and said “They are not a peaceful party, they are a militant group, they are like a bunch of mafias …. They are an ideal party for violence.” Describing how he would question neighbourhood youth who would commit acts of violence in the name of MQM, Ahmed said “They directly said, ‘we got our order from London.’”

The documentary then shows a Pakistani policeman who got asylum in Europe who received threats from both MQM and the Taliban. The programme changed his name and voice, and obscured his image in order to ensure his anonymity. The policeman said he was threatened by the MQM for arresting people working with the party, and that he did not only receive death threats, but also, twenty of his colleagues were killed.

Speaking of the low rate of convictions he said “Nobody wants to give evidence against MQM ... If they try to, MQM will kill them and their families.”

The documentary’s narrative adds that for twenty years, Pakistani leaders have asked London to control Mr. Hussain. The programme adds that according to the MQM, whenever it needs British visas, the home office issues them almost without exception.”

NewsNight then quotes two member of the House of Lords, one who fears going to Karachi will get him killed (as he is openly critical of the MQM), and another who says she doesn’t ask questions about the party because, the programme quotes, “She’s got a child to worry about”.

The BBC Two programme also confirmed, as a possible reason for London’s dealings with the MQM, a letter sent from the MQM chief to 10 Downing Street weeks after 9/11 offering human intelligence on Jihadi networks in Pakistan. After years of the foreign office refusing to acknowledge the authenticity of the letter, NewsNight confirmed in accordance with the Freedom Information Act that this letter had in fact been sent to number 10 and subsequently forwarded to the Foreign Office.

The last five minutes of the programme show host Jeremy Paxman interviewing Sattar, who defends his party by saying, “The BBC is a very reputable organisation but it seems that there has been influence of pro-Taliban and radical forces while this documentary was being prepared.”

When pressed about the party chief’s statements on preparing body bags, he denied it and said, “People were just laughing. It’s malicious propaganda and a media trial against a secular middle and working class party, that is MQM by the perpetrators of status quo and a political corrupt culture.”

He also said, on being asked, that “I would categorically deny and refute that there is any proof of any order coming from London, and as a result of that, anybody got killed.”

When asked about the money laundering investigations, he said he did not know the amount of money seized (Paxman said 150,000 pounds from his office and 250,000 from his house).

Sattar added, “I would not like to comment any further. Whenever any court or proper investigation will ask, I will answer that. I don’t think this has to be made a subject of a media trial …Whatever it was for, it’s a matter of investigation – let the investigation be completed.”

When Sattar said that no one was arrested, no charge has been framed and no court case has been presented, programme host Paxman added “yet”.

Referring to the money laundering investigation, Sattar added, “You have the right to say whatever you say, but you’re not the judge of that. You can’t say that during a raid, if some money was found, that it should be directly interpreted as illegally gotten.”

The senior MQM leader said that the party was willing to fully cooperate on the Dr Imran Farooq murder, but had issues with the way investigations were being conducted into the procedures of party matters.

Many observers who watched the programme said that it did not reveal anything which has not already been discussed in the past -- rather, 'News Night' brought together a lot of information which has already been spoken of and analysed.


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Maher
Jul 11, 2013 03:50pm

Good, atleast British police and media has the GUTS to bring out the real image of Altaf !!

pakistani
Jul 11, 2013 03:54pm

how come dawn is publishing a negative report about mqm????

AltafBhai
Jul 11, 2013 04:03pm

Tough days are approaching ahead for MQM. But the question is who will end their terror rein in Karachi.

Talal Riaz
Jul 11, 2013 04:39pm

video link please...

Asad
Jul 11, 2013 05:06pm

@pakistani: because MQM is nothing but negative.

G.A.
Jul 11, 2013 05:16pm

@Maher: GUTS??? You think British police and media give a hoot about MQM? AH is a British citizen and just like the British have been dispensing 'goodwill' visas and passports, they can as easily revoke it and toss the entire party in the slammer for good. He's is no use to Brits anymore it appears.

Truth
Jul 11, 2013 05:52pm

@Maher: Complete silence at Pakistani political, establishment, and other institutes (poor aspectators)

Agha Ata
Jul 11, 2013 05:56pm

Altaf Hussain is in love with his own voice. He will use it to say anything! No wonder his followers are mostly immature young men and not very educated women.

M aslam
Jul 11, 2013 06:02pm

@G.A.: Is MQM is replaced with PTI?

shahid
Jul 11, 2013 06:11pm

Scotland Yard, we are waiting for your findings hoping you will live up to your reputation.

MI5
Jul 11, 2013 06:28pm

Link for the newsnight program. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b036ts98/Newsnight1007_2013/

Azhar Hussain
Jul 11, 2013 07:04pm

@Maher:

And when will Pakistani media come out of the closet? When will we all rise against this anti-Pakistani party?

kdspirited
Jul 11, 2013 07:24pm

Sau din sonar key Ek din lohar ka. This was going to happen. The Govt. of UK has accountability laws and they will do their homework before they go on and arrest someone. Rest assured it will be a solid case against Altaf Hussain.

mirza baig
Jul 11, 2013 07:42pm

Its time for MQM to get rid of the image it has accumulated over the years by getting rid of Altaf Hussain and people like him from the Party, there should be election in the party and pure honest people should lead.

I think MQM is a good party with a bad leader sitting in the driving seat.

mirza baig
Jul 11, 2013 07:43pm

People are fed up of this, the election results in which 76000 votes were casted Against MQM in there base in the alarm the leadership should listen to before its too late

Danish A.
Jul 11, 2013 07:56pm

Why doesn't Nawaz Sharif send an adequate amount of forces to Karachi to secure peace. As much as I disagree w/Nawaz and the Army on other issues, this is a must.

athar
Jul 11, 2013 08:20pm

Please stop this new propaganda & media did not learn any lesson from past. Back in PML N govt in 1992 they used the military operation by full force & unable to break the MQM vote bank. Again it is a conspiracy which will failed. This is happening because MQM raising the voice against injustice is being done by majority province in all sorts of life against minority & they think being in a majority they can do any thing which they like. Remember Imran Khan PTI leader who said in his inauguration statement in Parliament that East Pakistan was seprated due to injustice done to that part of country same thing can happen any where. Stop this injustice this is my sincere advice to the people who are in majority.

amjad shaheed
Jul 11, 2013 08:33pm

thanks God Dawn has published something about MQM instead PTI ... end of world i guess :)

Naseer
Jul 11, 2013 08:38pm

It seems Taliban and British are on the same side. Both are out to destroy MQM.

QuettakaKhan
Jul 11, 2013 08:49pm

I saw the program and don't know how Farooq bhai could lie and lie again when the evidence was there. Also when he accused BBC of taking Taliban's side was quite funny.

Ali
Jul 11, 2013 08:50pm

here's the clip. Well done to the BBC. hope Pakistani media (including state medias) as well as autorities follow suit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KECxlpRtiMM

Desi from Lahore
Jul 11, 2013 09:22pm

@pakistani: Because they are bad people

Imran
Jul 11, 2013 09:24pm

I saw this last night on BBC2. Really enjoyed it. Farooq Sattar made a complete fool of himself. Cant blame him though, he was tasked with defending the indefensible.

Dawar Naqvi
Jul 11, 2013 09:27pm

Asylum Report of Dr. Imran Farooq should be published. In his report he mentioned that his life is in danger. He mentioned the names of politicians and agencies who wants to kill him. Why isn

Ravian
Jul 11, 2013 09:30pm

@Agha Ata: There are no 'followers' as such - only people fearing for their lives consider it a 'safer' option to appear as followers.

Ravian
Jul 11, 2013 09:33pm

@Agha Ata: There are no 'followers' as such - only people fearful for their lives consider it to be safer to pretend as followers.

Razi Khan
Jul 11, 2013 09:39pm

Negative tactics are being used both by media and agencies to malign MQM as much as possible but ground reality is not as true as is being portrayed here.....

I am not an MQM supporter or worker but I have known many of Karachiities and they are of the same views...it is all propaganda by nefarious elements ......

Perhaps, in the past MQM was used to using violent tactics but not anymore because they realised that if they will keep on using such violent tactics then they will lose their credibility in the eyes of general public...

I am certain that MQM is not that much violent prone as it is being depicted here.....rest is known to God.

Dawar Naqvi
Jul 11, 2013 09:45pm

Asylum Report of Dr. Imran Farooq should be published. In his report he mentioned that his life is in danger. He mentioned the names of politicians and agencies who wants to kill him. Why isn

Faisal
Jul 11, 2013 10:05pm

The culprits should be brought to justice.

Shehzad Zafar
Jul 11, 2013 10:07pm

Its unfortunate that people in Pakistan approve anything which they like whether it comes from any medium. BBC was famous for propaganda of highest quality at right time. It was also famous for inciting rebellions and government topplings. Its propaganda can be judged from Zimbabwe writings. I am no fan of Mr Altaf but in my opinion British govenment has very sinister designs in all this propaganda. They want Mr Altaf to accept something for which he is not ready. British government has given him asylum since 1992 and he is running the party from there since then. Even in the most turbulent times of 1994 and 1995 they were not bothered at all why now they have just showing the light when MQM has changed a lot and it has become a mainstream party. I must say they government must look into the matter carefully and protect what matters for the sake of Pakistan. British have no love for Pakistan and people of Pakistan must know that integrity of Pakistan is very important.

Ali Khan
Jul 11, 2013 10:14pm

Bringing out the truth about MQM is a step in the right direction. However, more needs to be done. Pakistan is broke, & its top leaders became billionaires during the term of their office, their businesses expanded exponentially. They have offshore family ownerships, & money laundered. They have taken out loans during the term of their office, & put things on hold using mechanisms like court stay orders & disputed properties. They have so many corruption cases pending & they lawyers keep things under control. Pakistanis have 97 billion dollars in Swiss Banks. Billions of dollars in Spain, England, & they use many names to preserve their wealth.

K.A.Muhammad
Jul 11, 2013 10:19pm

"Truth Shall Prevail", a Principle of Nature- Qudrat.

iftekhar hussain
Jul 11, 2013 10:24pm

I am sixty years old now, never in my life, my young years in India, my teen age in Bangladesh and my rest of life in Pakistan, have I seen such an elaborate attempt by BBC to take on any party of these three countries so ruthlessly. How come it didnot do this to Narendra Modi or any other politician and especially politically party of the subcontinent.. What is UK upto, bringing Altaf down and filling the gap with some other party?

SK
Jul 11, 2013 10:55pm

If this is what najam sethis of pakistan were gloating about last week, then it must be said that this was a pretty unimpressive piece of ducumentary which seemed to be based more upon fed information than direct investigations, Owen Bennett's presence notwithstanding. An objective report would have also touched upon the reason of mqm's inception and its continuous (and largely non coercive) mandate from Sindhs urban areas. The report should also have touched upon the fact that a tough neighbourhood necessitates countering the same adequately. In the absence of such objectivity, the report appears part of the orchestrated campign being run against mqm and sindhs urban leadership.

ahmed
Jul 11, 2013 11:04pm

What about the corrupt Pakistani politicians who have piles of money in Swiss bank and factories around the world? It was understood MQM will be targeted in Nawaz Sharif

M Arif Saleem
Jul 11, 2013 11:10pm

It seems that payback time for MQM is not very far

Op Nair
Jul 11, 2013 11:19pm

Shame on Pakistani media for not doing what BBC has done. Shame on every news outlet of Pakistan.

A Syed
Jul 11, 2013 11:20pm

"Many observers who watched the programme said that it did not reveal anything which has not already been discussed in the past -- rather, 'News Night' brought together a lot of information which has already been spoken of and analysed."

Also, who is going to stop TTP and its sympathizing political parties from on going terror in karachi. Justice Baqar almost dies, PPP cheif security office - dead, the list goes on and on. Plus, the heart breaking conditions at Liyari.

Police and Rangers are only collecting bribe and have failed totally to protect ordinary citizen.

Putting all blames at the door of MQM may satisfy one's urge to score points. But we need to get deeper into the problems of Karachi. When there was no MQM, we had sunni-shia riots on a regular basis, there was Bushra Zaidi murder and related protest, leading the deaths and destruction. Do anyone recall how many died Aligarh Colony massacre in late 80s, do we even remember that tragedy?

If newspapers and documentaries are the judge, I have a bad news. In west, Muslims are all terrorist and our religion is evil. Ready to accept this verdict of media?

God Bless Pakistan.

Sohaib Ahmed
Jul 11, 2013 11:22pm

Why the British government is not putting their hands on Altaf??? After watching this documentary it indicates that he is guilty. British government must take actions. This party has ruined Karachi.

MQM Zindabad
Jul 11, 2013 11:49pm

this is so ridiculous! this displays the clear mindset of the people in Pakistan and around the world!

any where in the west bomb explodes, ohh it was Muslim extremists, similarly, anything happens in Karachi, ohh its because of MQM ... get a life guys!

MQM is a reality, accept it! suck it up! n Altaf Hussain is going no where! the brits the amerikanos, can play this propoganda game which ever way they like!

GA Muttahidda !!

MQM
Jul 11, 2013 11:53pm

Video Link: http://tune.pk/video/139682/BBC-2s-DOCUMENTARY-AGAINST-ALTAF-HUSSAINMQM

MQM no longer fairly projects the rights of its constituents. We are tired of Altaf bhai, let new blood come, let party be run in democratic manner. Its an open secret in Karachi that your street power is no where near what it used to be. Change your ways and we will vote for you again. In eyes of the citizens of Karachi and mohajirs, MQM, you have lost LEGITIMACY.

Gerry D'Cunha
Jul 12, 2013 12:13am

the feudals of sindh; the religious parties and the chaudries of punjab who were bitter enemy of mqm, have somewhat been successful in their motive, so what? - but i suppose the strength of mqm is with its people

Khalid
Jul 12, 2013 12:38am

What a shame (but not at all surprising) that a large amount of cash was found at the premises. We all know that British judicial system is one of the best in the world and nobody would ever believe that British police have done this on the basis of some false pretence. Existence of such a huge amount of cash needs to be explained to the people of Pakistan and of course to the British authorities. It is early days yet but we know one thing, if it is proved that Mr. Altaf Hussain was involved in illegal activities, nobody will be able to save him from the eventual punishment. If they can give a speeding ticket to the husband of the Monarch, Mr. Altaf Hussain (who is nobody in the British society) should expect justice.

A. Khan
Jul 12, 2013 12:56am

MQM is not a political party, it is a cult following its messianic leader, Altaf Hussain. This will become apparent on his death (everyone has to go sometime) as the "party" will break up due to infighting.

Now I wait for the MQM trolls from party hq to come and deny this. I certainly hope to see my post not being censored.

GM
Jul 12, 2013 01:24am

I am really happy and proud at BBC News Channel who shown huge courage and solved a daunting task to show all over the world the real image of Altaf Hussain and MqM, which our establishment in general and law enforcement agencies are lacking in. Always speak the truth and BBC who have done it. Please complete the investigation on merit without fear or favor. COME WHAT MAY YOU SHOULD NOT CARE. GREAT JOB: please learn a lesson from BBC who had upheld justice and truth.

khan
Jul 12, 2013 02:10am

the no of likes on anti MQM comments show how beloved altaf is :P

just_someone
Jul 12, 2013 02:35am

Keep your voices up my friends who support newsnight! Write to newsnight and BBC and let them know you support their courageous and factual reporting. Also, write to the British Embassy asking them to ensure an impartial investigation. If you are in British, write to your MP and ask them to ensure that the Government does not hinder the NSY in their investigation!

Wasay Jalil
Jul 12, 2013 02:36am

Dear All Thanks to u and spreading venom against MQM. Just see it's only 1 Altaf Hussain & MQM see how imp we r as we have challenged status quo in Pakistan. All r tensed coz the way that Pakistan has been looted by them and MQM is the only party which is against extremism & fanaticism
No matter what it's all allegations but ur desire won't come true & we have already been thru in 1992 ops

Raza
Jul 12, 2013 02:48am

All the video clips shown in the program were out of context, mainly because those were all sarcastic remarks grabed from various occassions. Its pretty much like you can cut different words from different news and make a NEW news which will be all out of context and certainly fictious...

SQAM
Jul 12, 2013 02:50am

Simle project Failed ... Its look like Paid Documentry.... Not like BBC Documentry. Out of Standards, Asspects, Susspects totally fail. just like Paki Media on Sale :)

Farooq Murtaza
Jul 12, 2013 02:54am

InshAllah all base less allegation and Conspiracy against Altaf bhai will be defeated. Long Live Altaf Bhai ..... G A Altaf ...

Sohaib
Jul 12, 2013 02:56am

In Sha Allah MQM's Workers And Supporters Will Defeat All Conspiracies Against It's Quaid Altaf Hussain

skj
Jul 12, 2013 03:03am

People living in fool's pradise, ever since MQM founded is facing these sort of controvercies and conspiries just because Altaf hussain empowered common men, nothing is going wrong history is repeating its self Mohajirs fought for the Pakistan and Pakistan came into being it was the same british raj .....So wakeup haters

Mian s Amjad
Jul 12, 2013 04:24am

Before we unleash our hatred on Altaf Hussain, we must remember that our is the society where people are governed by war lords of all sorts. Even our government is a kind of war lord where ISI is used (admittedly) to vanish people without any trial and police is an armed and uniformed gang involved in robbing and torturing people who are mostly innocent. Their role is to help people of influence to amass wealth and resources illegally. Then there are rangers, FC and FIA etc. They are basically gangs against people organised by government.

Then there are the Taliban, Lashkar Islam, Jhangvi, Mangal Bagh, BLA, Liyari gangs, Sohrab goth and many other groups are operating in the country freely. These groups exist only because there is no justice provided to the people by the institutions. Even son of CJ is involved in theft and still roams free. Moonas Elahi robbed the people of millions and his father became deputy prime minister so he can protect him.

My point is that our society is left to fend itself from predators. When ever it happened in the history of mankind, people like Altaf are born. He is just a war lord like many others trying to protect his people from predators. Just like Mujeeb, Arafat and Mandela did for his people. If the society can provide a justice system that works for not only for Panjabis but for Mohajirs and all other ethnic groups equally, then you have right to complain about MQM. Therefore, before you through stones on MQM, please search your own soul and answer the question that if our society is a fair and law respecting society? Can you survive without a strong defensive pasturing like MQM's against the predators? So lay off of MQM until you have the answer. And NO I am not a Mohajir and not associated with MQM.

Mujtaba
Jul 12, 2013 04:50am

Oh please .. It was not a documentary. A documentary is an objective piece of information covering all , negative as well as positive, aspects of a subject. This was not the case here. And it was a mere anti-MQM report instead of a documentary.

S. A. M.
Jul 12, 2013 07:38am

Although it can be said that MQM holds street power in Karachi and have been crossing the limits quite often which is very much in harmony with the rest of the political giants in our country the murder of imran farooq in london if done by mqm is something that won't be ignored by the brits. it would'nt bother them if you are staying there as a peaceful citizen and creating hell in other parts of the world.

Talha
Jul 12, 2013 09:02am

LOL you called this documentary ? This is a one sided propaganda against MQM

Nida Khan
Jul 12, 2013 09:03am

"So the BBC has suddenly become an authentic and unbiased news channel! All it needed to do was run a documentary against the MQM. The Pakistanis who always claimed that news channels like the BBC and the CNN were funded by Israel and supported by the evil White House, and were running a smear campaign against the Muslims around the globe, are now happily sharing the BBC documentary as proof against Altaf Hussain's crimes. All its programs showing the Pakistani military backing the Taliban in Afghanistan, Malala's struggle against obscurantism, and the Lashkars' atrocities in Pakistan were a pack of lies! And yes, the Syria coverage is a sham too, the BBC ignores the plight of the Palestinians, etc. I am glad that the people's trust in the BBC has been restored. Hope it will stay like this! Amen! Post script: I do not rely on the BBC and Al Jazeera to form my opinions. I have always relied on books. And much has been written on the MQM as well as the Taliban. Read folks! The BBC people read. Well quite a lot of them."

Shariqa Ahmed
Jul 12, 2013 09:17am

We have faced these kinds of conspiracies earlier, have full faith on AH, AH minus MQM is not acceptable. We condemn all the anti MQM forces either inside the or outside the country, will sure rise again. But the question is - what will if this turns out to be on the people who are against these days, will they face the same music, will they be charge like the way they are doing now? People trust AH for what he is - He did the wonder which nobody realizes now but will definitely in near future.

Kamran
Jul 12, 2013 09:46am

feel sorry for Mr.Sattar,the way he defended and gave answers proves he is in complete denial,he and surely other people might be wanted to leave party or wanted a change of leadership but they cannot do it otherwise.............Altaf Bhai when he can give threat openly on air no doubt he must have given threat behind closed door also and only God knows how many has been implemented allegedly.

Baban
Jul 12, 2013 10:17am

We want Musharraf to be the new party chief.

Ihtesham Kayani
Jul 12, 2013 10:24am

Altaf Hussain has threatened British govt of dire consequences is he is "framed" in (1)money laundering, (2)issuing terror supporting statements and (3)Imran Farooq murder. You are not in Karachi Mr Hussain, this is London calling, wake up.

iqbal
Jul 12, 2013 10:25am

@Maher: Do not believe everything BBC TV shows.You can not take a few words out of a big speech and make it terrorism.Everyone has right to express their anger at something. While the real terrorists are roaming around the world killing BBC TV found someone who never killed anyone, call him whatever you want.

Haider
Jul 12, 2013 11:13am

"400,000 pounds found at MQM office" so what? PTI declared almost 1B rupees of assets to ECP, while PML-N declared assets of Rs 77 million, mostly from donations. During Nawaz Sharif's rule, Imran Farooq left many enemies in Punjab when he slipped out from Lahore airport and greeted by Altaf Hussain as he landed at an airport in UK in 1999.

NK Ali
Jul 12, 2013 11:55am

The ball game is over for Altaf. With Farooq Sattar making such vehement denials, it leads one to think that he requires telescopes to be fitted to his head. Salams

Shadae
Jul 12, 2013 11:55am

Here is the link for complete video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDR36UFylE

Hkhan
Jul 12, 2013 12:18pm

Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Mr. Altaf Hussain is being investigated.this is fact that no one is above the law, now time come most horrible group in Pakistan who destroyed the peace specially in Karachi, even sooner was better than too late .

graham
Jul 12, 2013 12:21pm

@Maher:

British Police also found the true picture of Pakistani army and ISI.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b016ltpv/SecretPakistanDoubleCross/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b016ynl1/SecretPakistan_Backlash/

G.A.
Jul 12, 2013 01:31pm

@M aslam: I don't know. But I have a feeling they are more comfortable with people who cry like grown women in front of the camera.

MA
Jul 12, 2013 01:46pm

@M aslam: what an ignorant comment!

Aiza
Jul 12, 2013 02:10pm

@Maher: Thanks to Imran Khan who requested the British authority to react on their citizen AH who was openly threatening people in an other country!

fida sayani
Jul 12, 2013 02:24pm

British government has enough evidence against Altaf Hussain and they are in a position to revoke his citizenship and send him to his mother country the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan, so that he can live there peacefully here after.

tariq
Jul 12, 2013 02:52pm

strange, it is unbelievable that British Govt did not know of the activities of Altaf and how the Karachi has been hostage at their hand for the last two decades. what I fail to understand and would ask the better informed to educate me is why British Govt has unleashed this tirade against Altaf at this moment. As far as I understand MQM has been serving the interests of UK pretty well as outlined in the letter of 2001. Has Uk found a better replacement of Altaf? Are they creating a justification for MQM to unleash their destructive potential in Karachi and destabilize Pakistan,please lets discuss,specially my friends from Karachi - List item

Haider
Jul 12, 2013 02:59pm

@pakistani: Yes its really strange.

Mango Man
Jul 12, 2013 03:34pm

Pakistan should start a strict de-weaponization movement. Anyone found carrying a weapon should be shot on sight!.

Phir dekho ... Kaisi filtering shroo ho gi!

A Kashmiri
Jul 12, 2013 03:42pm

@graham: shame on you and your comment.

hamad
Jul 12, 2013 03:45pm

a propaganda against our leader mr altaf hussain ! shame on bbc!

Loyal
Jul 12, 2013 04:38pm

This story sounds very familiar, Shah Iran, Sadam, Hosni Mubarak, Qadafi Altaf bhai app ki London ki Nookri Qabool..next!

ProPakistani
Jul 12, 2013 05:06pm

@tariq: Agreed they've found replacement in shape of Imran Khan's PTI which will serve them in other parts of the country too!!! P.S.(I hate MQM)

adnan
Jul 12, 2013 06:39pm

@Mujtaba: Unfortunately they dont have any positive

Ali
Jul 12, 2013 06:50pm

@Haider: this cash was not declared so there is a difference. Do not close your eyes. This is why where you are and where you will remain.

Saleem Mansur
Jul 12, 2013 06:51pm

BbC have done a great job for humanity . We hope that the people of Pakistan will become free from MQM. We salute Scott Land yard for this herculean task.

friendofall
Jul 12, 2013 07:04pm

I think IH has denied to support them in Karachi and they started against him with their newly founded member that IK. May be in the end IH agreed and signed on a white paper and type what they want from him. Yes it is a big game of big countries. IH did wrong that he try to show his power to them but they are cleaver, they have always have a safe path with them and yes they have always news members too. IK is good man but what is his internal feeling about his children, i can not say anything because everybody know that what a man can do for his beloved in Pakistan. they can sold out everything that is related to Pakistan and can ran away from here. Very few Pakistani really love Pakistan but most of the people did not care about their country at all. Its my view may be it is wrong...... Love to all.

Haider
Jul 12, 2013 07:42pm

Schools, Places of worships, Military Bases, Police Stations, Check Posts, Shops-n-Bazaars, Cars, Buses, Tankers, Electric Transmission Lines, Gas Pipe Lines, Train Tracks, Polio Teams etc are being blown up on daily basis by well known Talibans. 50,000+ are dead so far. And yet, most of this Nation continue to hate the only political force in Pakistan who has the honor of raising voice against Taliban by protesting publicly on the streets. Would someone please correct the direction of this Nation?

Khan
Jul 12, 2013 07:53pm

People who do not waste any time criticising MQM should pick any major terrorist attack in Pakistan either civilian or on military installations and list MQM chief or its worker link to it. MQM is not responsible fo Talibanization of country nor killing of 50,000 civilians and arm force personnel in terror attacks. Peoples Aman committee supportted by PPP who are now terrorizing whole Karachi does not belong to MQM. Pick any major corruption case in Pakistan I.e. OGDC, NLC, NICL, OGRA, Haj corruption, DHA Valley, Railways where hundreds of billion of rupees were plundered and provide proof if MQM chief or workers are involved. In Swiss bank $150 billion stashed does not belong to MQM and lastly MQM is not responsible for break up of East Pakistan or slackness in abbotabad raid read Justice hamood ur Rehman commission report and one can get the answer

Raufer
Jul 12, 2013 08:56pm

Altaf Bhai! Yeh kya sun raha hoon main? :P

Kiterunner5
Jul 12, 2013 09:04pm

@Haider: "POLITICAL FORCE" - give me a break. The karam will strike you with such force that you would not know what hit you.

Kiterunner5
Jul 12, 2013 09:05pm

@hamad:

Shame on you for calling him your "leader". You guys don't have the guts to stand up and speak the truth or your family will be no more.

Ali
Jul 12, 2013 09:10pm

'Many observers who watched the programme said that it did not reveal anything which has not already been discussed in the past'

Most people in Pakistan do have a fairly good idea about MQM's activities. But does the Pakistani media have the guts to report it on their own. No. It takes a foreign news organization to make such a report. That should tell you the kind of grip that MQM has in Karachi. Also it is important for the British public to know the kind of man they are harboring while they ask us to do more against extremism (which I agree we should).

Kiterunner5
Jul 12, 2013 09:12pm

@fida sayani: I wonder why doesn't the leader come home and lead his party. Why did the LEADER opt for British citizen ship and why now cry when his country is investigating him. Why is he afraid if he is not guilty?

Kiterunner5
Jul 12, 2013 09:18pm

@iqbal: One can wake up the sleepy but not who is pretending to be asleep. Keep sleeping.

N Siddiqui
Jul 12, 2013 09:25pm

@Mian s Amjad: You have provided very balanced and unbiased comments on the situation. I wish other people also think before making completely biased comments in favor or against. Things are not always black and white. There are always two sides of the story.

SYED AKHTAR
Jul 12, 2013 09:43pm

its totally conspiracy against Pakistan to defame MQM and mqm LEADERSHIP .THOSE POWERS DONT WANT ANY ONE LIKE MUSTAFA KAMAL RULE IN PAKISTAN FROM MIDDLE CLASS .IF PAKISTAN STRONG FOREIGN POWERS LOSE THEIR GRIP SO THEY USE MEDIA TRAIL TO STOP MQM VOICE .IMRAN KHAN HIMSELF IS THEIR TOUTS SO THEY DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH HIM

Salman Tariq
Jul 12, 2013 09:52pm

@iftekhar hussain: Sir - perhaps it's because none of these party's leaders were running their parties from London? Common sense, no?

Harris
Jul 12, 2013 10:29pm

@tariq: I agree with you, British government is equally responsible for this as much as Altaf since British government has been harbouring him for two decades so they can control Karachi one day. May their plans have changed and they are playing that good guy rule in front of the world and karachi people. I just hope people realize this and do not be fooled by this staged drama from either side....

Love Live Pakistan and it's citizen

raza aly
Jul 12, 2013 11:17pm

@G.A.: I have tried to listen to his speeches several times but ended up turning off the TV.He is a mad man absolutely crazy.

yousuf ali
Jul 12, 2013 11:19pm

@Mango Man: dewaponisation must start immediately, to show that political parties in Pakistan have members who are peace loving and pro Pakistan.

yousuf ali
Jul 12, 2013 11:20pm

please save Pakistan from terrorist and corruot groups.

Rehman
Jul 13, 2013 12:12am

@Agha Ata: Very well said. :)

imran
Jul 13, 2013 12:48am

Well this is high time for MQM to distance itself from weapons, unfortunately people in Pakistan are biased against Mohajirs, they should realize that sooner and go for a separate province if not than separate homeland. MQM has to do sole searching as well what went wrong in their struggle. It is true for MQM "Power corrupts and absolute powers corrupts absolute"

salman
Jul 13, 2013 12:56am

This is totally absurd, BBC had time to profile MQM but what about the biggest thugs such as PML-N and PPP. It is like in Pakistan now where one poor person gets caught while robbing few hunderds rupees and yet people like Nawaz and Zardari robbed millions of dollars and they are Prime minister and President. What a great nation of Pakistan, keep it up.... Truly Sad, very Sad..

hassan
Jul 13, 2013 04:50am

@Haider: The amounts and parties you mentioned, have properly managed accounts as per UK law. While on the other hand the MQM money has not been declared or has any record of its collection, If you remember Bollywood movie "COMPANY"! that what exactly the case here.

Ayman
Jul 13, 2013 05:32am

Simple question, if altaf loves his beloved people and Pakistan, then why doesn't he return? The ignorance of his supporters is beyond belief, following a grown man who doesn't want to come back to his own country. A deluded individual similar to hitler, lets hope the same fate awaits.

mike jackson
Jul 13, 2013 06:11am

Its ironic other than the Indians and Pakis nobody pays attention to BBC infomercials . Not even the Brits .Sad days indeed for corporate media indeed.. pretty soon things will catch up in that part of the world and all those 'editorial boards' will become unemployed . So , what a waste of money by Pakistani government on BBC.

ailly
Jul 13, 2013 07:30am

MQM leader Altaf is novice, even in neighborhood of his UK residence. How can he claim an international conspiracy is being hatched against him ? funny and sarcastic. On the other hand he is blaming UK govt for trapping him in Imran Farooq murder case, though some 400k cash stash found in his residence. Whereas his poor leaders in Karachi are facing toughest phase of their party period by trying to cover for mess up of their leader, who is trying to save himself desperately. party workers should give up on their leader rather than defend him

kj
Jul 13, 2013 10:01am

@Nida Khan: It is not BBC become authentic, it is finally someone has courage to stand up

NAW
Jul 13, 2013 10:04am

MQM is bedsore of karachi, and effecting reputation of pakistan worldwide, paki govt. have its own limits to act against MQM, but Britich doesn't. so MQM is yelling against pakistan and international recognized institutions to avoid situation. ... we just hope! it would not work... Further, in Long run UK will not act against MQM they may try to use him....

Amjad
Jul 13, 2013 10:46am

No matter how playfully MQM supports argue over the fact it remains like dawn day that MQM is and has always been a terrorist party. Altaf Hussain is a mafia head who operates from UK. But let me tell you an other thing. His days are ending fast! And We pakistaniz (be in any part of the World ) won't let him or his MQM to live longer now.

Sri1
Jul 13, 2013 10:47am

@Mian s Amjad: Very well written. But you can still see that your post's dislikes will always trump the likes. That is because it is very difficult for people to be honest and think with their minds instead of their hearts in the land of the pure.

m.saleem
Jul 13, 2013 10:58am

musharaf is need for Pakistan to control the Govt. eh is well expreinced

Pervez
Jul 13, 2013 12:36pm

It is un believable How could BBC be such a sell off? All hear say, and only when Nawaz Shareef has taken over in Pak. Back to the same game. Instead of utilizing the MQM abilities' of Good Governance, Incorruptible people who made this country and their best contributions- the blame game goes on.

Any thing bad just blame MQM- Never blame the real culprits. the thugs, the looters, the so called religious fanatics, the idiot politicians, destroying such a beautiful and wonderful country in the name of sham democracy and the corrupt media who declares one of the best citizens (Pervez Musharraf) of the country as a Traitor - Absurd

Raf
Jul 13, 2013 01:20pm

Snap out of dreamland. You are finally done, Mustaqil Qaumi Musibat. Hope the curtain will lift finally and people in Karachi will live a fearless life. By the way, isn't it said that evil does eventually unveil itself?

Aziz
Jul 13, 2013 02:57pm

@Haider: Sir, You have mixed up the issues. Political parties operate on the basis of mandate from the people. They cannot abuse this trust. They have to remain answerable both to the people and to the law of the land. In the case of Altaf Hussain he is also answerable under British law. Unfortunately being answerable to any legal process is a new experience for him.

On the other hand, the terrorists have no mandate. They have decided to challenge the state and its law and would be dealt with according to the resources and the capacity of the state of Pakistan.

Please do not mix up the issue.

KTShamim
Jul 13, 2013 03:25pm

Brave of Dawn to even cover this.

Ali Abbas
Jul 13, 2013 10:35pm

@Khan: Where did you get the number 150 billion dollars? This number keeps growing for some reason without any documentary proof or any legal conviction from the courts; local or foreign. When you make these outrageous claims Khan you just sound silly.

Ch. Ghulam
Jul 14, 2013 02:47am

@Mian s Amjad: Wrong , You are degrading Moonas Ilahi: he is not such a small person,as to rob people of Millions of Rs. You must apologise to him and his father. Moonis Is a man of much bigger scale.it was not Millions, It was Billions and had it not been untimely hindrances created by jealous people,the great entrepreneur in him would have easily proven his mettle ,--say to. a trillion,at least. Wait a few years ;and he will prove his "worth".

slahuddin ayoubi
Jul 14, 2013 10:04am

double standard of british

Ahmad
Jul 14, 2013 12:14pm

People trying to defend MQM by maligning UK and BBC and bringing up other corrupt leaders like Zardari and Nawaz should realize that it is Altaf Husain who has sought asylum in UK and not others, and that is why UK and BBC are after him. It is Altaf Hussain who is a British national and hence, liable to be prosecuted by them. Moreover, it should be remembered that Altaf Hussain offered UK government his services (and that of his party) to carry out their assigned tasks in Pakistan... and then he dares to compare himself to Quaid-e-Azam!!

P.S. I am a Urdu-speaking Karachiite... it is a favorite rhetoric of pro-MQM supporters to label everyone against them as Punjabis and anti-mohajirs! May Allah help this nation rise above their ethnicities and racial prejudices!

Ashfaq
Jul 14, 2013 12:42pm

@Pervez: Not every thing is hearsay. The four hundred thousand pounds recovered from two places with no record of it is more than enough for Scotland Yard police to frame charges of money laundering against Mr. Altaf Husain.

iqmahmood@hotmail.com
Jul 14, 2013 12:52pm

@Pervez: I fail ti understand how you guys claim that you made this country ? explain with reason - most of the 'muhajirs" who came from India after partition were settled in Punjab and not Karachi- they dont call themselves Muhajirs - they call themselves Pakistanis . STOP LIES .

Muhammad Imran
Jul 14, 2013 01:41pm

@Khan: People of Pakistan specially from Panjab want only corrupt leaders like PML N and PPP. As far as concern to MQM's Altaf Hussain, let court decides, is he corrupt or not. Soon we will get truth.

Most of the commentator are belong to so called democratic parties, have they ever asked their leaders how they become billionaire, how they build luxurious home, buy land cruiser etc???? Never because they love them to all so called leaders who are looting this country with their both hands.

akhan
Jul 14, 2013 02:31pm

@Shariqa Ahmed: He destroyed karachi

Karachi Wala
Jul 14, 2013 02:49pm

Call it what goes around, comes around or call it live by the sword, die by the sword. Call this a sad happening or name it a fitting ending. All those who are at the helm of the MQM affairs need an introspect. How much if anything MQM has achieved since its inception? To me, no one is a winner, everyone is a loser. Whether those who believed or still under the illusion of trusting MQM. Those who had doubts about the motives of those who created MQM or those who questioned openly. To me, everyone is a loser since there is more unjust, hate and certainly a whole lot bloodshed in Karachi. I think there could have been a lot that could have been achieved with dialogue and patience. There are too many mothers who have lost their sons (MQM and non MQM both.). For years to come, their cries will keep coming to haunt Karachi and far far away from Karachi.